il: it's friday. do you e the republican ngressman is? they seem to be -- on the debt ceiling. now on hittingthe rof. they're focused on winning later this year they given up the fight to reign inspending at all this year. a $1 trillion farm bill that over the top. to start the week off. then a billion dolar climate measure pushed by the president that piles on the way t end the week. republicans are afraid to say boo, wine, or complain. they are praying will implode.

that's a hell of campaign strategy. mark my words, republicans will rule the day they coveniently sold their souu. welcome. on the grand old party disarmament. that's the way i see it. what about you? > i agree. it was a huge blow to small government, tea party folks, people who want less intending. the strategy is to play nie this year. let democrats do whtever they want to put he focus on obamacare. that's on the top of american's behinds. what is going on with obamacare upset with democrats and since election year republicans are hoping they can just ride this year's through. have democrats basically get in trouble with obamacare. and then take over the senate and hopefully gain more control of the house.

scold stabilize. i n't think it will. it could enough to my it's not as bad as we think it is now. yet they're hanging their hat on it. i'm sayinghen you have lost your spending result on everything else. ou kind of reveal to yourselves to the american people as being the sort of baseless, spineless, totally clueless politicians yu are. >> exactly. and this kind of reminds me of mitt romney's strategy during the election which was basically not to say anything. kind of lay low and let obama - neil: play it safe. >> it county end uuwell. they need to put forth a plan and fight. show so you a spine. obama trying to propose a billion dollar climate change fund. why not talk more about keysone pipeline. we need a strategy republicans do. they can't put all of their chips and eggs in one basket which is the antiobama and hope

he screws up. they're playing it too safe to your point. i think with you're the opposition party you can never play it safe. and that you can never hone your hopes on poll numbers t might presently look good but don't last. ask mitt romney after the first debate. he thout he was on easy street andlayed it safe and we know what happened. i'm sayingould it hurt republicans to actually practice what they preac focus on on elections and willingness to challenge conventional spending. absolutely. i agree wehave a tillion dollar farm bill. if you look at polls mericans think that spending is out of control in washington, d.c. so republicans needto show they have a spine and actually do something about it. show the american people. neil: they're not doing it now. always a pleasure. thank you. happy valentine's day. it's not really for

republicans. understand john boehn's strategy. the former republican leader knows what i mean. by playing it safe they could be safely assurin they will be the minority party. am i overstating things, dick >> no. i have a -- i share your concern, by the way. they're playing it too cozy and too safe. it's one thing to have enough awarend of the vote numbers not go up a blind alley on something like the get limit. but passing the agriculture bill and goi along wit president clinton billion dollars for climate control leaving the pipeline hanging. these are fights they should be making. they could win. winning and fighting hese fights and losing them strengthens their position with the k trait. it's ood policy. and i think they need to be back and have the courage of their convictions good policy makes

good politics. let get back to the job, unrstand we've got to resist unnecessary and counter productive government spending, but they don't. >> they don't. they actually sign up or look at thfarm bill. they signed on and added a lot of stuffing in this bill. and, you know, when it comes at e time when they even themselves have been saying they can't cease and assist on the sort of thing. the party leadership does just that. would kll them to even try to attach something, anything, to debt ceiling measures. even if you knew it go down. at least you've been trying. they didn't even try. >> well, i think hey're so weary of being run up that blind alley and having to retreat with their tail between their legs. they made -- i think they may have been wise to avoid that fight. but the alture bill is jut unbelievable to me. you know, i started the

agriculture war in 1990. the days before that nobody quarreled whatever agriculture policy came out. they thought it was none of their business. it's not that hard to understand agriculture policy is counter productive. there's probably nothg more instructive to the american vironment than american agriculture policy. >> by the way. mocrats have the republican number othis. and so many other type of votes. becaus they now know that look, republicans are so afraid to get labeled obstructionist or even risking shutting the government down we can get any spending past these guys. my prediction they are going to now try to ramp through ay type of spending and know republicans wi be too afraid to try o stop it. >> well, that's where the leadership needs to differentiate. neil: they don't though. >> something like the debt ceiling is one thing, but any new spending bills on agriculture advances increases spending on agriculture cook

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if you're watching alone don't say they didn't try to help. in illinois the pitch goes something like this. get covered and you might just get lucky. okay. it's not blatant but close. the selling point is health insurance is good for loving. it the coverage doesn't make you more secure, gosh darn it, it make you more sexy.

and perspective meats it make you more describe. using a health care connection to make a love connection. time to bring in the mr. love connection, chuck woolery. >> it s so smooth. >> thank you. i try. i have to upthe ante. this is silly. it is really silly. with a do you make of it? >> yeah, well, i have tell you i have five reasons why republicans own today. the valentine's day. most romance leads to marriage. i don't have a tell prompter beeen men and women most ndout come from the government. you need to be single. the same goes for obamacare. that's number one. or number five number fur, valentine's dy leads to andy and chock lee. it goes against michele obaa's campaign. connecticut schools told children not to show up with the sugar. republicans own that one. valentine's day is the biggest day for teddy bear sales which

teddy roosevelt was a republican. it's a christian holday, which of course would only be celebrated by people who cling to the bible and gun and banned in most middle east countries. police are arrest you the religious police will arre you in middle east countries. and the number one rreason why the reasons own valentine's day. it's the only day of the year when every state -- all 57 go red. [laughter] [laughter] neil: that's not too shabby. you obviously -- [inaudible conversations] you brght your a game. i have writers in detroit going cry right now. [lauter] chuck, you mentioned valentine's day. i think whether it is super bowl and how they use that to pitch health care and coverage a for the young using a lot of rock stars and actresses to sort f tell you and compel you to get health care. cool thing. now using valentine's day leads to the case one saying it will

improve your love life if you have it. it strikes me as ultimate desperation. -> disseparate. we haven't heard about the truth about health care. obamacare, however you put it. we've heard a lot of untruths that come to light. now we contie to think, well, i guess they're telling the truth now. i guess they really do have .5 million. now mabe they signed up or not. maybe it will improve my love life and being friendly with dogs and strange animal. they're digging up verything in the world trying to sell this thing to us. and ijust isn'tworking i don't think. [inaudible conversations] neil: i'm leaving the dog and strange animal. as a guy hosted a show about make love connection. did you think any of yur contestants over the years -- i know money can play a part, i know status in ociety can pay

a part. looks can play a part. i never would have imagined tha health covere would be like an aphrodisiac. >> i think one of the first things a woman asks a man when she meets him. excuse me, do you have health care coverage. i don't. if i'm going to be attached i want to make sure i'm covered. neil: exactly. >> is that a cadillac plan? exactl by the way, sweety i have health care coverage. come on, let's go out. >> it gets back to the supidity of it. they're maeting something that young people at least today are not signg up fo and not as enthusiastically looking himself up. because they feel that it is not really worth it. and no matter how you t to mark it. a turd is a turd is a turd. >> it's not wot it. how they're trying to promote it. what if you're in an accident and break a leg, arm, head, what if you don't. most people don' break their

arm, leg, or head. most young people are smart enough to know. it's interesting how they go at us as if we're really stupid. i believe that most politicians really believe that we are stupid. so i think it's time to show them we're not as stupid as they think. i have no idea why i'm yelling. neil: you're good too. chuck. you brought the a game with the five point at the top of it. thank you very much. happy valentine's day. >> same to you, thanks.s. in honor of valentine's day. no clashing like this. >> why a war room. it's not a campaign event. >> you're almost imping we're taking the mon and pouring it down the drain. >> which didn't need fixes. >> i disagree with what liz said. >> it's easy to be patrotic with taxpayers' money. ne: today they put all their differences aside in the nameof

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you pay $1 a tax. what i think is it should be like a corporation. if you pay a million dollars in tax you should get amillion votes. neil: [inaudible] presents comment like tht from adam interview with the venture capitalist tom perkins. i'm sure who is a very nice guy. all i'm going say about the above is that lizy mconald share the sam opinion this

time. they're not going to be clashing tonight. they are agreeing on one central presence on the billionaire's remarks tonight. mainly he is nut. i agree with adam. i lo adam. as do i. it looks like an e hrmony commercial. it is crazy what he was suggesting. ani know first of all, never would pass constitutional muster. why continue we auction off electedoffices to the highest bidder and why don'te -- all right. have them vote based on the votes based on the ax loophole and breaks you get. i'm trying to give him every bit of the doubt. what was hesaying disproportionately contribute a lot of -- >> yeah.

neil: they are owed some breaks. >>well, you know, in his defense we conuded an hour-long conversation a about income e inequality and the persecution of the rich in his perspective. he was trying be provocative. and the point he was king earlier was that the -- yeah. right. the rich make a big contribution to society that isn't properly appreciated. so, you know, he said later e did impress availability. he told reporters of course i don't -- he said i wan't being completely serious but i was trying to make a rovocative point. neil: l right. he was making the provocative point what were you thinking, like, man this is the world's worst situation for an interviewer toto be in? [laughter] >> no, neil, i was thinking, gee, isn't this wonderful. we're going to be talking about this at least for the next 24 hours. what i think is interesting what i challenged him on was, you know, i think he said you should get the number of votes prortionate with only people pay taxes get to vote.

i said everybody pays taxes some kind whether it's a sales tax or a user fee. he said no,i meant income tax. and i know i think that's interesting you elevate income tax or property tax above other kinds of taxes. you're arguingthe provocative -- i shouldn't have said 's nuts. let me take it back. the g-force. i don't like boehner and obama going a dance. >> i'm glad you are on the same pa. this is a ne-day event.

let's get over it. >> all right. i think we got it out of our system. neil: i appreciate. thank you boh thank you very much. we have a lot more coming up. the warns on garette tax. get ready to see them pop up on cans o coke.

>> the gernment thinks that they actuay know what is nutritious and what is not and that we are not capable of making the decisions. so you have this new california labor reqirement that is mpletely unnecessary. dinghies requirements up in california and the u.s. they @% assume that we don't know how to make the right choices. >> it would essentially be that this stuff is danerous. an attacker will eventually kill you. but what i am curious about politicians are fast and furiously going on here.

>> they are banning the council chemical from all foods in america. they are very protective of this. >> actually, senator schumer brought up a point which is how we will do these things and we ne to kind of go back to the idea of the marketplace. actually address any potential issues at its scare tactics and that is why the politicians love

this. neil: i don't see it any other way. because these guys got some green. >> where will this end? tru ishat new york would ban soda. you have no idea. and thee have all kinds of federal mandates that are going to be coming our way like many label requirements at restaurants and potential grocery stores and convenience stores and we are basically too stupid and the government needs to tell us how to do this. neil: thank you very much. we appreciate it. the story of the cheerader who is not cheering. she is doing. once you hear this really big

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neil: let mebe brief or at i think this cheerleader has a case. she has proof that she was paid way less than the minimum wage. the team is scrambling at issue with all the hours she works aveling and doing appearances that count as promotinal vehicles that help her carer or does it just help the team? my next guest says she has a great case. so you are not buying it. why not? >> i am not because this is her choice. it is almst a vounteer type position. all of these cheerleaders have othejobs on top of it.

this is something that they do almost on a volunteer basis and it is a volunteer thing. and i had a friend that explains me that this was something that helped in their career and something to make some sort of a local celebrity and they get invited to a lot of parties and it helps him with dating and there are perks to have. neil: they are only showing this as we amplify this through the catering o instincts. >> i just think that they are making$2.85 per hour..@ did we not abolish slave labor in this country a long time ago? i think the team really needs to take this lawsuit seriously. neil: how does that even happen that she is not the only one

saliva they do something that is blatantly illegal? >> theare getting thesegirls to sign contracts or. if they can't get them to adhere to contracts that are clearly against public policy. so of course the girls are going to china because they think yes, i'm going to get modeling gigs and there are a lot of perks. but it should be lower or higher and not is not a valid debate and you can't really debate whether or not a law is o the books or whether or not it should be enforced. neil: you can also flip it around. people that work at law firms, the young legals thawork these hours each week in the hope

that, you know, that they sort of earn their stripes. is this analogous to back were very different? >> it is actually similar because there a lot of people to go to charity events for their work and are not compensated for that. and i'm not sure that thse folks, i'm not sure tht they agree with that. neil: because here is the thing. what you just said was a perfect example. i took a job as a summer associate for a law firm to get exposure and to meet the partners so that they would see how eat i as an offer me a job, which they did. but i goerks, but that didn't meanthat they didn't have to pay the minimum wage. because you can make that argument for any job. there are always going to be incidental peks. neil: but when you pay by this

hour, the straight salary and he put in an 80 hour work week, there is a difference. >> yes, there is. with an hourly job. that is the argument that these girls are going to make. and they ended up paying him so much more money than if they had just complied with the laws and paid these girls som dollars 85@ cents an hour. this is something that they think it's fun for them and that's why they do it.

this is smething that is mandated in something that they have to do. neil: i'm going to keep a clos eye on this. meanwhile, it is not too late to get a valentine's present.

>> because the storm was so unpredictable, by the way just coming down here, it has ttally stopped snowing and it's a beautiful day out there. >> as this woman was saying it was fleeting and snowing and there were five more inches to

come. she says he might break your spine from it's okay, it's a beautiful day. [laughter] neil: but i digress. it was so beautiful in neighboring new jersey that some kid didn't get a snow day they didn' have school. though virtually from hom. using their computers. we get a ton of tweets and david is here to react. >> i'm catching my breath he scared me. >> as beautiful as it is anywhere. neil: noon and trimmed new yorkers are not dismissing it. anyway, cutting schools taxes 80% and it could revolutionize

this but should not replace the daily interaction in the classroom. it makes sense if we can get rid of this and more can be spen on actual learning. the virtual classroom. is that the answer? >> no, it's not. the pictures of the kids are supposedly doing this work on their little matt computers. and you don't know whether they are for this or not. what is missing more than anything else in american education is focus in the last thing in the world that you want to do when you get on the internet is focus. it is the definition of attention deficit disorder and it attracts disorder like garbage attracts flies. you're going to get focused by giving kids a computer and expecting them to do anything else but troll on the internet when they are at home and forget about it. it is not.

neil: we sang something. [applause] >> meanwhile, have you seen these drones delivering flowers? it's pretty cool. the faa telling the flower delivery company no more drones to deliver daisies. many people think this is a good thing. but they are not a good idea and too much potential for disaster and tey should block them. of how lazy have we come you have these dreams of drones with twinkies drop counter me. neil: i live the dream. >> i needed that. neil: they drop them into the snarling. [applause] anyway, what do you say? >> government's first duty is to protect people not to run their

lives and in this case the faa is protecting us. by the way there is a guy that would love jones. if he had his own little drones. and how have you know that he didn't have one? but the f, they haven't ruled it out. i believe them here with one of the few regulatory agencies that prevent people from getting killed are killing other people. i think that you will see some form of it. it may not look like this with the blades that can chop your head off or your finger. that is all kinds of dangerous things and they make it to he point where they could use it. so if i forget an anniversary or something, i think oh, i can call a drone on here. >> my anniversary is on my birthday. so that i never forget. i don't forget my birthdayi don't forget my anniversary ich is saturday. it's going to be 25 years on saturday. and i'm just a little bit older than that. and i think the faa will

eventually allow the drones to deliver but i'm glad that they are holding the fine until it is safe. neil: in the meantime, the tweets keep cming on the show and they can't stop talking about carl ichan. one of our followers was tweeting this. i really enjoyed this interview and it was an eye-opener for me. a strong interview, proving once again why you're one of the best that our fearless and smarts. thank you for being candid. he was very candid. he said he was more or less sane, i'm not paying more in taxes, but he drew the line. >> that you hit on something very interesting. which is thht heeemed to be sounding a little bit like warren buffett, saying that obamacare isn't that bad, that businesses are just using obamacare as an excuse for their own sloppiness.

>> you nd i covered the retail industry and if it was about quarter to weather and i never credit at a good quarter. so i'm not saying that this has hassles galore. >> what worries me about it is funding an organizatio. so i kind of know it. but the fact is that sometimes superrich guys get so superrich like warren buffett that they lo tch with the concerns of the average guy. and it's not as appreciative as what carl ichan is. neil: one thing that stuck out was the willingnessto say that washington is such a disaster that i taken out of the equation and take it as a given that they

can never be held accountable. i have better luck trying to wedge that and i give up on political america. >> i think he believes that in his soul. eventually all of the scrubs are going to fall on the big government guys and eventually the public is going to sayhe heck with it as margaret thatcher said. you run out of other people's money and i'd leave that he thinks we are very close to that point right now and they will have no place else to turn except the private sector. i hope that he is right. and he is still investing. neil: well, you know, he said pick and choose no matter the market. and he said i am an apple ssareholder. so when i heard that he was

there with his money and their. >> i think that carl ichan cares more than anytng else about making money. he is not there forthe long term, although some of the companies he stays with. but enough most part he is talking about his company and you can invest in his public company which makes money and that is his purpose. i think he is in there for the long-term? may be but how long that is as maybe a year or less. >> it invariably comes from this. and that isthe problem with a lot of these guys. that is frankly why there are so few retail investors in the market. they feel burned. the guys with a billion-dollar

computer is given in now before you can blink and i so how can you make money in an environment like that? >> thank you. neil: when we come back, if netflix can do from wars, why welcome back. how is everything? there's nothing like being your own boss! and my customers are really liking your flat rate shipping. fedexne rate. really makes my life easier. maybe a omotion is in order.

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>>andora gory and "politico." willis to branch out into politics targeting customers based on their par revealed through their choice of music for example, if you like bruce springsteen they think you are a democrat ted nugent a republican. i think they are making assumptions but whether it is onto something what do you think? >> i agree with the promise

they are making assumptions but so what? if they have go away to monetize their subscriber base if you use the free service you cannot even opt out the way they identify if you are a democrat or republican it is brilliant. supermarkets have done this for years. not political but doing the demographics it is fantastic for thcompany civic a think they make a lot of assumptions and mistakes they will mess with that data this is what you really ought to be concerned about if you have privacy concerns >> do you like pandora? >> i would not invest in the billions years. >> it is still essentially a company run dawn of free thinking and i always avoid

those companies. >> who says it is apple or samsung? what makes it the other does not? who says either makes it? headed the of you been watching this company? the juggernaut is a lot more than laptops nobody has been on their radar. >> i love them. i bought them unsuspectg lee tee of the lenooa of the pads and realized they bought the i am business would it was losing $1 billion per year paid 1.7 billion now the biggest company in the world. they know how to do turnaround. i dig a to do the same with the cell phone market. >> that is what they think that they could break out to

the keyboard technology could easily move to phones and other devices. >> yes. there is a lesson here with japan. look at mafacturing the japanese could make at can make a better. china has 100 times the money from the scale and bring in their replicating japan. this manufacturing because lenova is a force to be reckoned with. >> apple has had a nice run this past week with carl icahn to be ending the company buy back stock because the validity has an end of the stock is still way undervalued do you share that >> i do aid and assuming we have moregreat products to come. the pipeline has been a little slim no real

excitement. but it depends on the next big thing. >> it will be presumably a bigger phone still and will be like a mainframe to your ear but it could be isolated with these two markerss -- makers so are replacing bets prematurely? >> cell again the bible take the opposite side i am n a believer in apple i think they're struggling they don't have the next best thing new leadership lost jobs there are great at innovaon but now they'll lose the mba and that is a different scenario. ♪ >> right on schedule. what about next week? tim mckyer very concerned eeergy and commodity has not track with equities normally they move lockstep we're

tching for this relationship because if equities are right we're off to the races of it is a commodities we have rough sailing. >> isn't that more indicative? or is a much broader than that? derek usually it is based inc. and other products that is what concerns me. >> the existing home sales reportcomes out next friday this economy rests on three pillars. the fed, all about the tapering the jobs numbers that is flat andnother big killer is the existing homes sales the rise of housing has flattened off that will reduce the wealth effect with people. >> years ago you were the first to say if people equate to their sense of worth to their homes.

so if we are off the lows but prices stagnate to people stagnate with their by? >> absolutely. it permeates to spending. we'r trying to think about selling our home but the market has gone flat in the washington d.c. area that makes me bring in my spending all the way around. >> there are no o sheikhs available? [laughter] >> there are no -- they are in virginia were the taxes are lawyer - lower. >> even the sultans'. [laughter] >> where disputed few years? with the home-equity loans and home depot of the world if housing slows down.

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