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report." thank you for joining us. have a great night. we'll see you back here tomorrow. taxpayers have nothing to celebrate. welcome, everybody. i'm charles in for neil. five years ago today. the president signed an $8 00 billion stimulus bill in to law. and remember when he said this about it? >> today does mark the beginning of the end. the beginning of what we need to do to create jobs. the beginning of the first steps to set our economy on a firmer foundation. >> well, that foundation still is looking so firm, mr.
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president. according to the bureau of labor statistics. 10 million people unemployed. an additional 91 million are out of work and not even looking. they have given up. washington bring the president took a page from the wpa years ago. we haven't done anything new except the president is trying to defend the creation of government created jobs. rather than saying we don't know what would have happened had the government stayed out of the business of job creation and allowed the economy to move forward in the private sector to create jobs in a more efficient manner. >> you can argue coming from, you know, the private side, we know when government get as large as the government. it crowds out the private sector. mitigating what they can do for the economy. if you look at the situation
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five years ago there was bipartisan panic over the state of job. they wanted to rush as much money in to the responsibility with shovel-ready investment. it was the term. you're simply putting transfer payments out there or getting in to crony capitalism. you can't do the temporary programs. so you to give businesses long-term tax policy reform. long-term entitlement reform and businesses need to be able to plan over a multiyear period. the programs don't work. and the big problem here is exactly that. these are temporary unsustainable jobs.
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if you were 2009 when the tarp bill went through if you were a green home energy owner you were a winner. if you were a regular homeowner you were a loser. if you were big, loser. that's had a debilitating impact on the economy. it. >> i think it has. it was supposed on a green energy bill and infrastructure bill. only 6% of the stimulus spending was spent on infrastructure. it would have been a great investment. it so you a long-term decades long return. it very small percentage a couple of percent was spent on
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truly green energy. we didn't though money at this. we were open the cusp and almost worked. we could have made it 1.5 or 2 trillion that worked. >> we don't see eye to eye on that. the problem is bloated government is the economy's worst enemy. and the best thing we can do is stream line government. reign in the progressive state. team line the tax system.
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third and fourth quarter gdp we saw a move of government spending. particularly in the fourth quarter. and ironly what we saw with consumer spending was up and business spending up. do you think we are getting clear signs that can everyone take a cue and get government out of the way. maybe we'll get traction ourselves. >> government does not produce well. those don't create jobs. because businesses need to look over a ten to 1020 year period. they have to plan for their cost. and so when the short term
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stimuli come in, they are discounted in the private sector for business investment. >> i guess you could say government doesn't create broad wealth because trillion dollars quite a few cronies made a lot of money over the last few years. when it is easier and not to work it's hard to lure people off the sideline. guys, you are fantastic. i really appreciate it. thank you very much. >> well, you know, in spending -- just doesn't spend. welfare and other federal aid programs hitting a trillion dollars a year the cato economist said it is getting pretty dangerous. dan, i'm thinking more than pretty dangerous at this point.
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if we care not only the economic vitality of the country but moral fabric and the spirit of self-reliance. the work ethic. independence from the state. these are all things we need to be concerned about. what is moral is getting 47 million people on food stamps. that's the moral objective of the nation. or what it should be. what would you say to someone like that?
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we could have richest float down from heaven and never of us have to work. if you didn't snap your fingers it might be im-- immoral. in the real world, you can't redisrupt unless produces something. and the problem with the welfare, as you learn more and more people and the dependency as you trap them in long-term intergeneration poverty. if you don't have enough people pulling the wagon. that wagon is going to bog down and what i said earlier in the interview about what is happening in greece and italy. this is my concern.
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becomes even more dangerous. can you pinpoint a number. the point of no return. >> i don't know there's a magic tipping point. i think it's more about the culture, the social capital of the country. there are a lot of older americans they're living on -- they're on social security. the government forced them to be in the program. they had no choice. they don't see themselves as part of a dependent class.
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do they view the state as a racket to enrich themselves rather than something in the background open ables us -- >> the welfare state becoming the overarching welfare mentality that new orleans is a tipping point. you are fantastic. we appreciate it. talk to you soon. >> next, what is the difference between nuclear bombs and global warming? well, according to the secretary of state. not much. scare tactics gone wild after this.
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[ park sounds, soundf spray paint ] ♪ we asked people a question, how much money do you think you'll need when you retire? $500,000. maybe half-million. say a million dollars. dan ] then we gave each person a ribbon to show how ma years that amount might last. ♪ i was trying to like pull it a littlfurther. you know, i was trying to stretch it a little bit more. [ woman ] got me to 70 years old. i'm going to have to rethink this thing. [ man ] i looked around t everybody else and i was like, "are you kidding me?" [ dan ] it's just human nature to focus othe here and now. so it's hard to imagine h much we'll need for a retirement that could last 30 years or more.
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>> it is. they'll they have one thing in common. the solution is always a global warming. the solution is central planning more government control, more international bureaucrats. controlling more aspect of our lives. so in a way this is what the political left always looks for. some kind of ecoscare and john kerry has been plugged in welts president obama. so john kerry looks at this and as an opportunity to expand the goal. obama is going to executive order. he's going to be all the behind the scenes below the adollar achieving what congress refused to do through regulation. john kerry is poised the survey
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as we know the cost of education has never been higher. thousand of people could gate free ride. all they have to do is commit a crime and wind up in prison. that's because new york governor wants taxpayers to fund a new program that will allow inmates to take college classes. chuck liked the idea. jesse said it's a total waste. >> they're trying to be reactiva problem they should be trying to prevent. new york city alone has 54% only 54% of its children graduating high school. that is the bigger issue. shouldn't we be trying to fix the problems allowing the poorest and the most disadvantage in our society to end up in prison? we are treating prison like a boarding school. so most of us have to work hard, join the military, or have a second job to get through college. meanwhile it's going to become a joke. you can go to jail.
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but the math seems pretty easy here. an inmate in new york costs the taxpayers $60 ,000 a year. costs $5,000 if we give college credit. those people are three times as likely not to return resit victim rate of 40%. get them an education on the feet and never worry about them going back to the system. >> first of all, i question $5,000. when i look at the numbers my
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college didn't cost me $5,000. i still have loans out on it. hit someone in the head of a brick. lyme looking you're reward people for fail. it's not the way the society should be generating. we have charter schools that the mayor is proposing he's going to charge to use public school space. these are the most disadvantagened of children. we make the most disadvantaged children have it harder to finish the education and turn around and duoto business and get their education. those numbers don't add up. it's not a say argument. i think some of the point goes hand and hand with the other things.
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instead of asking people to raise themselves up we're saying you stay where you. we'll come to you with goodies and rewards. it doesn't motivate them to ever move out of that position. to be able to get a job. or get a job and pay taxes like the rest of us. the lesser of two evils there. i would like to see it become an incorporated part of society that out there with the brick against their thr i was in the military like you. i went to school while in college. none of my friends went.
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when i left they were knockingg3 back. in two hours i'll catch up. it was free. who would take it in prison. this is absurd. i had sacrifice 20 years in the marine corps. that's how i got my degree. to sit there and say let's pay them after the fact. let's fix what is going on in societyilet prevent our young part-time going to prison and fix the problems we have in the education system. that's absurd. on the sucking chest wound. you put the credit card stop the air from going in. >> the one side. you got it. fantastic. appreciate it. a lot of passion. hopefully we'll have you soon.
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beginnings, we were trying to learn how to operate them, and incorporate them into the business model. charles: did you do a few test runs ethen everyone called up the af-- faa, how did this go down. >> i'm in the sure about how the faa got involved, i know we did several test runs, and we crashed a few, we learned some lessons. we lrp starting to approach a learning curve that meeting meaningful, we had a successful delivery, we were intending to do a test on valentine's day, however we got a phone call from the friendly aviation adeste fideles min strag, they told -- administration, they told us we needed to cease and desist. charles: let's talk about the one that crashed. a lot of people don't want to live in a world with a bunch of drones hovering overhead, we do
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believe the technology will be improved. never full proof, but what happened? >> well, drones do not meet cement block walls with a great deal of -- >> how did you control -- were they controlled with a -- did they have video cameras? no one could walk along the side by side with them, what is the long gist call problem -- logistical problem. >> that of the when we were trying to get it started off, there was a correlation issue that needed to be done with the navigation system, if you interrupted the process it would not know where it was. we had some setbacks. that is the mole poin behind a -- whole point behind a learning process, you learn how to do things, we did not expect for this to go into wide circulation, at this level, but we needed to experiment and learn, and find out what is
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good, what is bad. in order to be able to properly execute a drone commissions program, which hope to do soon. charles: when you hear that someone like an amazon would love a fleet of these, they are investing a lot of money, do you think because they are a giant company maybe they will get favorite status, maybe some of the trial and error you are forced to go through they will skip past? >> i wouldn't be surprised. i know they are in a better position than we are to investment in technology. and all in connects withins government, in terms of lobbying, that is a little disheartening, however i'm confident that given the opportunity we would be able to develop the same sort of techniques and technology, the faa is really, you know getting a little bit in our way. sometimes the answer is not
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charles: be careful when you post on first base, your friends are not the only ones watching, so are cops nearly every police department is using social media to investigate crimes into nail drunk driving suspects, finding pictures in bars, and use twitter and facebook to investigate violent crimes like rape. to the lawyers, said police are able to do that sam holder said
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they are crossing the line, tamara you think if you put it out there for public, why shouldn't police use it. >> i think that there is a standard, if you put everything out there it will be used against you, but things are going on is something kind of a fraud, you know attorneys, and investigators are getting into people's facebook by thinking that or tricking people, then they get information instead of using regular investigative traditional techniques. charles: rebecka, it sounds like a pretty good shortcut. i could go on-line, suspect told me all i needed to. know. >> right, to mara's poin aside, i recognize if there is any fraud, it is improper, if a policeman goes on-line, and opens a fas book account, and they are not privatized. it is admission, they have to
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prove they posted it, but if you put things to facebook could, be prepared whole world is find out? it may be an admission or can could be. but the problem is judges are now allowing all of the information to just be add miserable to court, i'm not saying it soon shouldn't be but judges, prosecutor defense attorney should look at the new information and tomorrow whether or not they should use it. charles: what about the id of self incrimination, does that play a role, or is that after you read your rights? anything you can say, hey, i took the photo, it is private. >> it all goes to relevance, without signing too legal, just because you were in a drunk driving accident, and you post a picture of yourself drirnling does not mean that is relevant to the case itself. that is just in the 4 corners of the courtroom, so that is the problem that judges are having
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is allowing stuff. charles: rebecca -- >> i think. charles: the wave of the future? >> i think, just as prior to facebook, and twitter, there were admissions to other people, a judge can withins 4 corners of his courtroom died whether or nodecide whether or not it is add misache within the law, but this is an as pack, manage positive for police it use and law enforcement to use, if they can track you, figure out where you have been, that could add up to, some thing, then police could support in some east, and arraignment. then, a prison sentence for rapists for killers, murderers, why not use it,. >> this is -- >>, of course, it has to remain current. >> this sudden just criminal cases -- should isn't just
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crying cases, problem attorneys forking into people's facebook, twitter profile to use that information in child custody cases, divorce, things that -- >> you saying it should be off limits? >> i think that people should absolutely be careful. but also we have a certain expectation of privacy in the, counts, we don't expect that everyone we put out there is going to be used against us, at the same time don't put everything out there. >> how is that distinktion made, will be be a rulinga will give us a parameters of the whole thing? >> i think this is a case by case could for example, if abinvest get or uses fraud to go to machine's facebook account it -- to someone's facebook account it may be is a represent at ruling other than january posting manage -- someone
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posting on twitter for the world to see. charles: if someone posts something on facebook, and said i thought only my friends and relatives would have access, i did not' the world to see it, do they have the leg to stan on. charles: 'police or law enforcement got a valid sou subpoena if there is fraud use to get into someone's account, a judge should not support that material being introduced into evidence. charles: all right, let's leave it there i think moral of the story, don't put anything on facebook that can get you in prison or higherral money payments or divorce, a great post valentine's day topic. >> d-day after d-day. new study said 1 in these
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charles: forget about breaking your heart the new batch of cheaters will break, bank, a record number of american couples committing financial infidelity, hiding things like credit card, and purchases and bank accounts from spouses, psychologist, dr. duffy and pillar prince weigh in on this trend, is it new or becoming more prevalent.
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>> most people have two incomes, people and a marriage with a level of financial independence they want to maintain it a lot of people people continue to buy what they want, theyly to spouses to avoid a fight. charles: it sounds like you think it is a good idea there we alltel little white lips lie, if it affects financial staibility of family then it should be discussed. >> it is in the a new issue, i believe with two incomes, both spouses have money, it may be easier to hide money, if you look at reason that people divorce, arguing over money has been one of the number one. charles: number one for a while. >> very long time. charles: why would someone do it? is it a reflect of lack of trust or what -- where is that come from that someone would not be honest about this part of their life. >> i think that say lot of things, sometimes a desire, people want to buy something or
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keep dism something their own, very often people earn money, it is mine, i earned it. why can't i spend it. charles: maybe a whole new set of wedding vows, some argue it makes sense to a certain degree, both you are have made, people feel someone independent comes into a relationship, have you been earning money, you have earned this place in society to earn that money, why put is at risk because you said i do in. >> well, i think problem is that, it has the same impact as cheating another partner. it is a betrayal, you are lying to your spouse to ush mines trusundermines trust and relationship. charles: do you agree? >> absolutely. infe dealty is not just about -- infidelity is not just about
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sex, the honestly, people say, we made a commitment. charles: if someone had a side you know account where maybe they siphon off 10% that would be the same as a affair? sexual affair? >> it is a lie, not the sex it is thely. charles: really. >> why do you do that. >> why condition i be honest with my -- why can't i be honest with my partner. charles: what if they said, during the dating process, i noticed you were loosey goosey with the cash, and now we're married, i am going to sock some away. >> they stash shopping bags in trunk, they forget to take tags off of a dress, you still end ul feeling like you have been lied to. charles: wow, i can't come to
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grips with it being -- you know that involved, this is on the same level as any other -- what are some other cheating, if i tell my wife i am on a diet but eating twinkie all day long? >> think about an emotional affair, a secret friendship. >> but back to jimmy carter, if i'm walking down the street, and i say that is a sexy woman did i commit adultery? >> no, sex and money are two biggest thins that people fight about, these are big ones. charles: those are really big, this is from what i'm reading one out of three marriages? >> that we know about. charles: it could be worse, our divorce rate is probably not coming down any time soon. >> thank you you were brave sports i appreciate it. >> thank you,. charles: pizza going high-tech. how you can make huge slices of cash by investing in pizza. what a day for neil not to be
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charles: there is big dough in pizza, especially if you order on-line, how big pizza chains use technology to deliver big sales, the big three, all reports 40% or more of annual sales now from digital orders. to gare scp gare and zach on whether you should invest in pizza craze, jack? >> yes, how are you. you know, i not only do i like the companies they have great pizza and cool technology, when you add over -- them to over 2000 other company in small cap space they have 3% employiu% premium per year on average. charles: i will ignore the fact
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they don't make new york style pizza, but from an investment poin of view, hard to argue with success. >> dominoes and papa johns stocks are fantastic, yum brand a little bit different they are strong problem in china, pizza is pizza, they got on to something with this technology. whatever you can do with any business to make it easier for someone to order something your business will do better, they are flourishing. charles: restaurants in general, it looks like we are eating out more and more, those who can deliver cheap and fast have the upper hand. >> i live in orlando there is more restaurant chains coming here all cool burger places, a chipotle on every corner, as long as you can deliver what people believe is good food at a reasonable price you will be
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able to grow. charles: people should understand disruptive business model are not just for technology. to number two, did you orders flowers for your last valentine's day? did you get them? hundreds of 1800 flower companies did not. apologizing, and credit vouchers, is this enough to keep customers coming back, and will it ease investor worries? >> they will come back, on valentine's day, birthdays people -- men are buying flowers. charles: but not from 1-800 flowers. >> you can go else where, there are shore on-line and look, bottom line, when you are a company, and you do not deliver, if it affects one sale that matter that usually feeds on itself, we agree on that, but overall they are ibby they will
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be fine. charles: they probably a lot of people said they did not do it quick or smart, they call that number they saw, it done work, they went on social media is only area they responded apologizing, i looked at 108 flower stock, it is so-so, trading about 5 bucks, will this hurt them or be nonevent long-term? >> saying you are sorry in life in business is tip hike not enough, it is about the experience for consumer this is not a good one, they need to make it right for en consumer they need to go above and beyond. charles: we're seeing a lot of companies maybe theme two 2013 that pleads to 2014, the right apology, lululemon offending a lot of people, abercrombie & fitch, the right apology is part of the business model.
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you may have a chief apology officer soon? >> you may, but not just about saying you are sorry, this is a experience for end consumer, it hasn't to about the experience for home, right now it is not good. charles: you hear that music, you know that means, time for the night cap. gary, tomorrow? ? >> charles issue gold, 2 1/2 year bear market over, you saw it last week, i think it continues in months ahead, i think you with buy goal or silver, and underlying stocks here, i am not sure what it means for market, i'm focused on that area right now, i think it will be a great few months. charles: gary, does that infur we may see inflation? >> look, i think we have inflation already, the numbers coming out of the government are a joke, they changed how they
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rate inflation years ago, i think this is out there. the big key is, interest rates, if they stouter to back up big time then we'll know. charles: zach. tomorrow in. >> i don't want investor focused on next 20%, no one knows if it is up or down, i want them focused on next 200%, staying long-term, own equities, direct hook to capitalism, remaining diversified, and rebalancing on highs and lows and remember, short volatility is that thunderstorm. charles: every stock we talked about, your name had a check next to it, you own it all, a lot cannot own it all, if we get a thousand . pullback, you say hang stay the course? >> a long-term bet for investors, they can own over 13,000 companies, 45 countries, with us that is what they have, that is what they sustain and rebalance, highs and low its
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