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nice office. how you doing? good. automatic discnts the ment you sign up. we will see you nextweek. neil: so mch for new year's resolutions because you may try to stick to that diet by washington gave up trying. weome, everybody. i am neil cavuto. get ready to get back to continue more spending because it never stopped. ending the week with the budget that is weak. a.m. did goodies for all including to keep democra happin benefits to keep republicans happy but if you are among those who worry abt the debt and more spending, you are not happy.
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tough. the president thinks even the mice -- smallest promised even for a living adjustments with some benefit programs that are not happening in republicans are not arguing. spending money like we have itnd a farmill that has little to do with arms it infrastructu spending when we have little to show for those we have already spent with infrastructure. forget republicans crying foul they are not saying boo no wonder the tea party i boiling. now meee 80 partier who does not take this lying down. the big rush to give up the fight and will likely keep losing elections as a result
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their lding one after another. this is completely will not work in their favor they are afraid to be called obstructionists that is almost laughable if i were a republican right now with the leadership position in that building i with rocks that obstructiist label and wear it for all it is worth. but they cower because they don't want to be called names. but they will and i will be sure becau this kindof behavior is what is wrong. tech o another $56 billion for grand kids? neil: an issuerom the debt commission share said yesterday he is listed. >> it is alice in wonderland and it gets worse every day because this president will
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fail as the president his legacy is imperiled if he does not do something. neil: but with the doing it with those who are hanging their hats on health care exploding but have you noticed his poll numbers? they are beginning to move up some babies casting fortunes and then giving up spending resolve. >> for republicans to say i am disappointe does not sell any more. so that the digest statement as when i will spend as much as 5.back up whenever dt and don't worry about any of responsible budget a and hand it to my children. but they get away with this because the republicans don't say anythin
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they just keep raising via debt ceiling that i prefer to call the ted they say it is not o fault bu obamacare has effectively to points the fger at the republicans and they tower in the of corner. they have a job to do. say no to ridiculous spending. neil: spending money that you don't have is wrong. always a pleasure. did republicans asked for this spendg? the farm bill, and on and without a single attachment is it any wonder they keep going for the dollar? my next guest is woering of former republican and sconsin governor in former hhs secretary isears you have to wonder about the logic th they are using
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now to avoid rocking th boat even as they sign on to more spending? >> absolutely. truth is that thy good thing about the $56 billion tax increase budget battle, puts forth his $22 billion less th the last failed budget. it goes no place ahead, nowhere, the dead on arrival, the spokeerson for the white house said it is a political document but the republica have to show leadership. but like the person before ha indicated that people out here are woering what will take place. they understand working between eight and 10 hours a day they cannot spend money they don't have. republicans neeto put a stake in the ground but who
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is fiscally responsible? neil: you hit the nail on the head. ryan cousins of logic of the leaders to say we don't want another government shut down to be the obstructionist but the danger thinking health care will be germane in november you have to hope that continues to be the case the president's numbers a taking up and now the health care law is stabilizing. nothat it is great ohe is a great president but americans -- republicans have given up with the hope that they will get their way in november. i think they are eating their cake and a little too early to. >> if they don't stand up than nobody will.
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it is their dna. that is what the republican party stands for fiscal responsibility that is what we're asking for. they don like obamacare. is a flure. they want to make sure they don't pay grab to this country to put off on our sons and daughters and grandchildren. people are thirsty for a leadershiphey want republics to be accountable with washington. neil: but they say they get mixed messages below and behold when they have the cost of living increase then no, no, no. some republicans fear th are in electrocuted. what is your advice? >> be straight with the american people. the entitlement programs are out of line, we cnnot afford them or contie to raise the debt over
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$17 trillion. we will bankrupt this country it is time somebody says so to get the people behind us. they have to do it day in and day out and not wait for somebody else they have to do it. neil: tommy thompson. former governor thank you. one way to not get young people on your side. >> the truth is young people are knuckleheads. [laughter] neil: yowill not believe why this wom was arrested. >> i am not breaking the law >> i am taking the phone. >> know you are not. >> yes i am. >> sorry. >> sorry. get off of me. [ male announcer ] ese days, a small buness can save by sharing.
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you will get a glimpse of what is comingup later in the show. as you can see sometimes it is pensive w will show you you could hear from somebody who said you could be better off not to buy a home but rent forever. soeep looking out because we are helping you. >> lots of young people think they are invisible but the truth is young people are knuckleheads. [laughter] they are cooking for the first time slicing their finger open or reducing on the bar stool. [laughter] >> i would never do both of those things. [laughter] neil: knuckleheads need to sign up for obamare the so we thout we would ask a couple. charlie is here with u.
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a and i guess neither of you relish being called a knucklehead? >> i am a bad coke so i do slice my finger but that was ridiculous to make that statement wind up white house needs young people to enroll in order to be successful. late will turn more people a way. they try to push these big policiesith said many states that says don't people don't know how to make choes for themselves that is what was reflected with heard knucklehead comments. that is wherthe administration it is making error. it was a sharp tone although she tried to be humorous. we will tell you what is best for you instead of them being empowered for emselves. neil: i know what she was trying to say that they
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think they are indestructible but this is the bullet pro stage but it was a clumsy way to frame at but you may not see q need health insurance but sign up now. did she impressed you? >> not really. she called it a knucklehead but i would say young people are reasoning with the health care law making a sound economic decision of a sudden the minimum policy has tripled? if you cannot afford it i will pay the small fine. that his is a good consumers e live would disagree fundamentally. i think she meant what she said but i don't think she meant to say it provides think previously they will get our generation as knuckleheads that they can trick to vote for those
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policies. neil: that is interestg. we were showing the youth vote the last couple of elections overwhelmingly for the president and democrats as tends to be the case. maybe she just takes it for granted that people understand? >> i think they tried to play off of millenials card wait too lng but they are disenchanted with the obama admistration and policies. young ameca foundation nationwide pulling i is 40 percent think the government is too big and too intrusive as opposed 4% think it is too small. what's is ronating is the conservative values of mited government and free market policies. that is not obamacare and
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when they see sticker shock premiums are going up because they have the subsidized health care. neil: you should get the stake and take care of me but you are not. but is there a potential even with all the problems the young peeple have second thoughts on government? to be very altruistic and generous? >> ablutely. altruism is ey when you spend other people's money. but actually the eggs under people's moneydoesn't need to be spent we pay the pric it is forced by coercion. yog people as ashley just stated eloquently we are forced to pay for policies we will t benefit from as the big kraft our future and we cannot afford it. of wi love to take care of
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you but i cannot pay higher premiums. neil: i am not take get personally i wish that wisdom was way beyond the young people. thank you. neil: is justin beaver only big with kids? he is even bigger with those parents because the media is hot on anything coming out of him than any scandal seems to constantly bubble seems to constantly bubble up[ doctor ] and in a inic trial versus litor, crestor got more high-risk patient bad cholesterol to a goal of under 100. way to go, crestor! yh! tting to goal is a big deal, especially if you have high cholesterol plus any of these risk ftors. because you could be at increased risk for plaque buildup in your arteries over time. so, when diet a exercise aren't engh
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putting her on the back cover of "sports illustrated." did you check out who isn the back? and flip it around she can be found on the internet. >> this is how passionate but there is a good point. >> some of you apparently thought we were with ovkill but i want to you to decide if i doubt if she stays or goes. news you can use. you might find justin peters tactics which is bigger than the taxman because the media is more interested to use videos the of the white house scandall.
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if this is over the top peter beats benghazi? really? the data em duschiky why he cannot deny how his friends are misguided. his hair amazes me by the way but we go crazy to get video? >> then showed them going after anyone with half a dozen scandals. >> you could throw a dart at the board. benghazi, and "fast & furious", nsa, silencing the two-party, irs, maxine waters and shady banking ties, and media phone records and a lack of reporting on the ballooning deficits.
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jay leno had a great line the president campaigned on hope and change nows pe and change of the subjects. neil: nothing from jimmy fallin? >> no. but this ishy they are taking over the old media because maybe people really do wt to read those stories. >> i am all for this. what does he look like when he is under arrest but that is all i am saying. >> i get worried any time we don't talk about the media. neil: it is the alternative to use. >> i am happy with this conversation to represent the entire medda but it could well be capitalism
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does not serve the media well because this is what the people want not the decision by the media. neil: when people of ask abou should congress ntinued to investigate ben gauzy there is a lot of passion writing they are not getting attention. >> there is a big difference between what you agitated about what will you watch on the screen? into the other question and [chanting] day over and over and over? we could do both. is it is the 24 hour news day.
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>>y opinionis people's eyes would be diverted to beiber on this list rain -- split screen. >> i think i hate when journalists sounds important about their job but the american people understand they try to make public figures feel uncomfortable to root out corrupon. that is what jefrson was about. he would be the beiber fan also. >> but the essential problem there is no money with that. there is no money with the rious stories so we'd do it for different reasons. it is not profitable otherwise. >> the alternative media is
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seing the public like the i.r.a. scandal and "fast & furious" and they are making money. neil: it i is a big plate that you can fit a lot on its. thank you very much. that a cop stops you you tell the cops you are recording him and trouble begins. >> get off of three. get off of me. know i'm not. i did not do anything wrong. get off of me. [ female announcer ] who are we? we are thinkers. the job jugglers. the up all-nhts. and the ones who turn ideas into action. we've made our passion our life's work. we strive for the moments where we can s, "i did it!"
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>> no. >> i said hand me the phone, it is evidence. >> i'm allowed to record the conversation. >> hand it to me. >> get out of my car. >> you are committing a fellly, hand me the phone. >> no i'm not. >> i know the law better than you. >> i'm nnt giving you my phone. >> you will end up in jl if youon't hand me that phone. neil: i do like this woman. i n't even know her. let me be brief. there ought to be law because this reeks double-standaad a woman ends up inail after recording a traffic stop. perfectly fine for police to keep recording you before, duri and after a traffic stop. i'm no lawyer but that doesn't fly right. whether they can think the cop went too far and this is at all fair. ashley? >> i think the cop went way too far in this situation. never should have arrested her she should have the right to record him. she followed the law. she told the police that she was recordings him. that is what florida law requires. neil: is it a felony?
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is it a felony? no, that is felony. give me your phone. >> right. she told him she was recordiig hill. she did what florida law requires. requires both parties are informed. they're informed being recorded. she is fully allowed to record him. >> no one informs me when i'm pulled over, you know, that the dashboard cam on the cop's car is on. he doesn't tell me, by the way you're being recorded right now. it is just done. no one checked with me. >> right. well that is the police. they're allowed to do a lot more things than normal citizens are. the fact she was comying with the law in this situation. the cop clearly lost his temper. neil: what do you think? >> neil, i actually agree with you guys. the cop did go way too far. but really have to question what was the woman's motivation. traffic law.he vie rate ad the cop ha every right to pull her over, ask her questions, give her a citation. instead of letting him do that,
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letting it be she preemptively records the officer even before he gets to her car. neil: she told him, she was. so it is not as if she pull ad fast one. >> why was she doing it? why was she doing it, nl? neil: maybe his demeanor or language or said something. >> it was before, it was before even came up to the car. she already started recording. neil: what is wrong with her recording? let's say nothing precipitated. what is wrong with her recording? what did she do wrong? >> there is nothing wrong. there is nothing wrong i agree she had every legal right to record this officer but you listen to the tape, you know when an officer give you a reasonable command, when he is pulling you over, neilou follow that command. neil: no. a lot of them are bullies. they love power. come over. and all of sudden. >> right. neil: no. >> pulled her out of the car. neil: one at a time. one at a time.
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ashley, on that point alone i thk officer overstepped it but, not only abusive tone and demeanor but making a big stink over something i think was genuinely harmless. >> and i think that people should record their interactions wi police more often bause we're ending up with he said/she saids a lot of times after the fact. the police are better off regarding -- recording all their interactions. can put a camera on lapel. you mentioned earlier, neil, recording on their cars. they're smar to do that i would like to see all the police departments use that. if a citizen wants to record them, i don't see any problem with it. i think that is their right. we're playing for police officerso patrol our areas and keep us safe. if we want to keep our cell phones on to record them, i don't have any problem with that. neil: nadia? >> i don't have a problem with it either. excuse m, i think when a police officer pullsou over and he is requesting put the phone down, give me your phone, let me see your hands, police officers need a certain level of authority
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over people. that is what they do. neil: wt if she had, okay. like you want to see the hands if she had a weapon. what if she had the phone lying on the dashboard? he would still want i none of his business. >> good question. i'm not defending what this police officer did but at end of the day i think he fell into her trap. she was being very combative. arguing. like looking for a fight. guess what, neil? she is running to the court house steps and trying to sue for millions and millions of dollars. seems she is not being mother teresa here. if she had a reasonable belief he was pulling her over illegally. neil: can you imagine if mother teresa were alive and you pull her over and record every wd. >> she was trying to record. ne: ladies than you very much. meantime jpmorgan pace up millions of fines to the government and still gives the executive big pay raises. i you to me the guy who says, that is not a settlement. that's a sham.
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neil: 13 billi bucks in fines not enough? to hear better markets ceo dennis keller tell it when it comes to jpmorgan not nearly enough. keller is so ticked off about the settlement he is suing jpmorgan over that settlement. he says the financial firm got off way too easy. the proof is rewarding its ceo jamie dimon with a $20 million pay package that made it look way too easy. so, dennis, you're suing on what ground and for how much? >> hi, neil. nice to see you. thanks for having me. we're suing the department of justice actually because it exercised unilateral power by cutting a deal with jpmorgan chase behind closed doors where jpmorgan chase paid the executive branch $13 billion, and the executive branch acting through the department of justice gave jpmoan chase complete,
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blanket, civil immunity for massive, pervasive illegal conduct relating to inflating the subprime mortgage bubble that caused the crash in 2008, which was the largest crash since 1929 and it caused the worstconomy sips the great depression neil: who caused that? are you saying jpmorgan did or the government looking the other way? >> there is plenty of blame to go around but certainly the crisis was caused by pervasive, fraudulent, illegal, and sometimes criminal conduct by the too big to fail banks on wall street. neil: on that point, i don't me to jump on you because that is crucial point. the banks say, and jpmorgan says, punishment mete t out, 13 billion more than enough, leave us alone. >> and you're right. that's what they do say and what we're saying is, cutting a back-room deal that is secret between the executive branch and the biggest, most politically-connected powerful bank in the united states, jpmorgan chase, with no accountability or oversight is not permissible under our form
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of government. better markets is often called the wall street watchdog but we're also a government watchdog. we believe there has toe accountability on wall street and washington, d.c. and the way to get that is reqequire the department of justice to submit this settlement to a federal court and let's see if it withstands the scrutiny of the ght of day for the american people. neil: you know, i would sooner think get government upon us to find out this money earmarked to shareholr relief and those who were burned and relief for them, that actually goes to that intended purpose. i doubt that very much. >> well, it is actually not even all for that. $2 billion was a penalty -- neil: that's right. >> paid to the u.s. treasury. but, neil, ask yourself, if jprgan chase had 300 or $400 billion in liabilities do you think a $13 billion settlement would be very much? it wouldn't even be a slap on the wrist. neil: what would b what would be? >> well we don't know any of the facts. we do not know how much money
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jpmorgan chase made from its illegal conduct. we don't know how much investors lost. we don't know how much liabilities at stake. the department of justice didn't not even disclose whichaws they alleged jpmorgan violad, who violated them or how. neilall right. >> they constructed this deal to conceal, not reveal to the american people. so what they're trying to do is sell this as being tough on wall street when providing no one, including the american public, any informatn that they can judge for themselves. better mkets we believe in transparency and accountability to the arican people. until the american people have enough information to judge for themselves, the ieason we should be trusting them. neil: dennis keller, thank you veryvery much. >> thanks, neil. neil: switching gears ever so slightly. see this kate upton video. some viewers tnk we're way overdoing it. guess what, apparently nine out of 10 of you think we are not overdoing it enough. tit-for-tat on the story we continue to shamelessly milk. we're on top of it.
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i mean we are following it. we're all over it. we're all over it. we will address itfter this. in the new new york, we don't back down. we're all over it. we will address itfter this. we only know one direction: up so we're up early. up late. thinking up game-cnging ideas, like this: dozens of tax ee zones across new york state. move here. expand here. or start a new business here... and pay no taxes for 10 years. with new jobs, new opportunities and a new tax free plan.
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il: upton, putin, dogs. ww connect, you -- anyway. david asman here to do the honors again. >> only you could put those pele together. neil: there we go. these are the they stori we'll connect them because they are connected whether all this kate upton coverage is getting senseless. whether vladmir putin who is apparently very fond of young ladies starts getting ruthless and whether more people leaving their dough to fido proves their "clueless." first to kate. later to the dogs. but are we dogs, constantly showing this kate up son video?
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shis on back cover of "sports illustrated" some of all of you think we putter hundred mt. rushmore. some, not i vest at all. some person angrily tweeting neil, give it a rest. still another, are awe crazy. you could talk about kate upton for a full hour, five days a week and on weekend repeats. >> what is wrong with that neil: what is wrong with that is right. never enough kate. i would prefer a video of kate on screen while you talk. i aim to please. anything for you, the viewers. dave, dust-up over miss upton? >> my only question, neil, why you have pictures of us when you have pictures of this going on? what is wro? neil: this is she did a photo shoot for "sports illustrated" underweightless conditions. who came up with that idea? >> i don't know. but i like to pin a medal on him. we're talking about gold medals. neil: do they give medals of
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freedom for that? >> they should. she is full-figured woman. she is lovely. going to outlaw pictures like this? what do people want to do? neil: they say this we overdo it. >> to no how could you overdo that? i don't care, my wife would encourage, my wife is from latin america. she understands what pleasure is about. neil: absolutely. >> the thing my wife says she doesn't care where i get my appetite, a long as i come home for cooking. neil: okay. i got an email from my wife. enjoy the couch [laughter] >> that was me that said that. not you. neil: meanwhile, you guys are also talking about pin pouting and all of sudden i'm thinking maybe pounding? i've been watching vladmir putin very closely watching these olympics. he doesn't look too happy. his hockey team i out of the prospect of losing to the u.s. in the total olympic medal count is beginning to sink in. get ready for the russian to start raging. scenes like this of russian
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police whacking a girl ban are just a warm-up act to just, worse act. that's what i think. >> unbelievable. in fact the russians just used their influence, of course they were blaming us for the same ing, with the judges to get that figure skat gold medal, the 17-year-old figure skater. neil: the one who fell like 50 times? >> she didn't fall that much but theact she wasn't as good as others. neil: she was drunk though, was she? >> wow! you will never be invited bk to the open olympics. neil: i was just --, he is just angry. >> putin comes from a culture of encouraging rigged games, picking winners and losers, usg governmento go after political enemies. wait a minute. did i say putin or obama. neil: stop it. my theory, obviouslye felt no compunction, some said authorized this attack on -- >> compunction? neil: this girl band, assaulted them. had no problem with it. the word was they showed up,
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they showed up, the polic were on order to tak them down. >> you know it is interesting, they weren'tfficially police. they were these guys dressed up like cossacks, being used by the police. absolute. neil: did they hur them? >> i don't know if they hurt them b the fact they were whipping them -- neil: inexcusable. >> look at think, inexcusable. >> this i putin. this is russia under putin and -- neil: i'm telling you, i bet that came with his blessing. >> strangely after0 years of communism i think he still does have majority support. i do believe he rigs elections. but i believe, even i there was a fair election he would probably win, because the russians -- neil: it is what it is. what if putin sets his guns on us? you better make sure you have your whole will sorted out. apparently a lot of folks have. you wouldn't believe what th're doing. more and more, are leaving it all to their pets. yep, fido gets all t dough. one person, including i like my pets more than most people. why shouldn't i make provisions
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for them? okay. another, neil, it is something, a responsible pet owner does. dave, are you leaving it all? >> you know, i do have a wonderful dog'm totally in love with, a little habinese called luna. neil: he, she? >> he. neil: knows how to work -- >> we are at top of the food chain. we are at the top of the food chain. dogs are not. remember that. neil: whatf you hate all the relatives and rath give it to the dog? >> you can do that. leona helmsley, the witch of park avenue, remember leona helmsley? we shouldn't speak ill of "the departed" but she was awful woman according to all reports. she left millions of dollars to her dogs. as awful as that is and she is awful woman, i don't think, i don't think there is anything wrong with it. it is their money. you should be free to do anything you want with your money, even leaving it to dogs as dumb as i think that is. neil: i'm still thinking about theomment you made about the last story. >> it is my wife's comment.
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neil: there we go. >> where i get my appetite as i long as come home for cooking. neil: honey, i don't know. i had nothing to do with it! >> i saw you writing tt down. neil: all right, now. chris christie has to be miserable on this damn diet he is on the rest ofew jersey better get miserable with him. do you hear about this? do not think about lighting up. pretty soon throughout the garden state the whoop your ass police are coming down. >> oh, no. >> oh, no. neil: yep. [ male announcer ] these days, a small business can save by sharing. like carpools... polly wants to know if we can pick her up. yeah, we can make room. yeah. [ ale announcer ] ...office space. yes, we're loving this communal seating. oh, it's grea yeah. [ male announcer ] the best thing to share? a data plan. ♪ new at&t mobile share value planfor business. our best value plans ever. for example, you can get 10 gigs of data to share. and 5 lines would be $175 a month. plus you can add a line anytime for $15 a month. sharing's never been better for business.
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bust. bad time tore cigarette companies or just continue ages? >> every time i see one of these headlines, neil, i think it is a buying opportunity. if you had bought every time the government stayed local -- state, local, federal, cracked down on cigarette companies you made a small fortune. we've been through this time and time again. the cigarette companies, philip morris, altria, have long shown that they are always seem to be a step ahead of these regulations and crackdowns. i think cigarette companies a still a great place to have yr money. neil: all right. but a lot of it, that we're looking at here, is worrisome because they do get a lot of their business abroad to pick up for the slack in the u.s. but you can only do that so much, can you keith? >> well, look, sin is in. there are two things people do when econocs get tough or when politicians claim to get tough. they smoke and they drink. bottom line, it is great time. they have great dividend and solid management and they proven in court no matter where they are in the wor they will not
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take this sitting down anymore. they have lots of lawyers fighting back. they're no longer easy target -- neil: but they always lose, on is kind of stuff they will only lose. >> what will theyose for? you can't legislate morality, i have a lips today. no matter how hard they try. neil: kate upton video night is. neil: housing hitting 18-month low, on same day more people are opting to rent instead of buy. gary b., that normally, normally ominous sign for housing. what s you? >> i think it is ominous sign for housing. i think housing is on the decline no matter what you look at, new home sales, media prices sincthe start of 2013. there is plenty of people that have gone through, my gosh, last, 10, 15 years not seen the value of their house budge upwards. most people have seen decline. i think that the trend, at least for the next generation is to be more toward renting than buying. neil: yeah, but you know, the flip side is, they're prompted to rent, keith, because home
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prices haveone up which in the macro sense would assume be good, wouldn't it or no? >> i don't think so. i think it's a sign of the times. i'm with gary. we've seen a long thing coming this i lots of external supply, long-term supply. i've lived in asia where i see the oppite. i don't see that here. i wouldn't touch homeowner stocks anywhere in here beten a two-by-four. neil: time for the night cap, gentlemen. point the show, stuff you think about tonight bright and early monday morning. gary b.? >> other than the jobs report, neil it is gdp number that i look out. that comes out next friday. that is the best look at how the economy at least has been most recently. i think you're going to start to see signs where it is kind of fllt. neil: what if the gdp report covers, what period? last quarter? >> yes. last quarter and -- neil: so before a lot of nasty weather h? >> exact. neil: this quarter looks like a
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disaster. >> this quarter will be horrible but even last quarter i think, with a the adjustments, everything, will still be flattish which honestly i think is indictment of this current administration. neil: keith what about you? >> well, said, gary, indictment of this administration, gary, absolute. i'm struggling with a sense of day have view -- deja vu dot bomb be here. i don't like it. i think it is something wrong. makes the cover o "newsweek", boy here we go again. neil: i was thinking same thing which should concern you and run other way, when i see these type of valuationswaded to companies, i'm thinking that kid, snapchat or turned down $3 billion offer from facebook last fall? well, he is looking brilliant now. i don't know if that is a sign of his pscience or the market's craziness. >> makes you wonder. szukster is got mey to spend.
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this guy turning down three billion. where is reality in this? maybe they see something i don't. neil: called w paradigm. gary b., we talked about other padigms went bust. i always think you got to invest, promise is one thing but profits invariably are the bottom line thing. we're going back to investing on that worries me. >> yeah. exactly. and i thik you know, these new companies, and i still throw maybe it is not new anymore, but newish, even like google. certainly facebook is relatively new, they are so desperate for that next edge. it is like they have got to come up with the next great thing i think the're a gamble.
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neil: keith, gohead. >> we're using words and similarities between the.bomb be crisis. eyeballs. click factors. we're seeing all terms come back. that is worrisome. neil: we've done kennedy: what did you do when youoke up this morning? maybe a blueberry muffin? will you have a glaof wine? don't look now. you are on drugs. and baseball fabian's with alex rodriguez has it ever occurred cfeine and sugar is your personal performance in hansard? without wch it is another day at the office. you are human and you aren't on drugs. this is "the independents."
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