that's just my "two cents more." have a great weekend and we will see you back here on him at keeping secrets? but you voluntarily give up lots of information. >> not many things are more personal than what you search for online. but your typical searches are anything but i do it. >> is there a way to keep privacy back payment that is my real social security number. >> the drums come in the government. the data brokers online. they know what you do, and that is our show tonight. ♪

♪ >> and now it is time for john stossel. >> you have a facebook account? do you post pictures on instagram or personal things on twitter? you probably do. most americans now do with how we connect with friends. and i love facebook. this page helps me understand what you think, and you give me feedback that makes me smarter. i also have a personal facebook page that helps me stay in touch with friends, ranging volleyball games. my life is infinitely better because a facebook are you but there is a downside. lots of private the, more than i realized before i research this. recently a comedian freaked out random people by demonstrating how much he can learn about them. >> i wanted to see how easy it would be to get personal information from complete strangers.

>> first he checked his application that showed him social media users near him. then he checked sites like twitter and instagram to learn things about him. >> is your name jessica? >> yes. >> are you doing? >> did you just make that up? >> i understand my back i didn't call the police. can you imagine a stranger coming up to you and hang, hello, i'm glad you enjoyed your florida trip. how are the kids? that would freak me out. and it freaks out eric, who is a web producer that writes about twitter, facebook and so on. the business of social media. >> it freaks me out, it's the business of social media. we all want convenience or any

other application that you download onto your smart phone. >> it makes everything easy. if you understand on one side, it will be easier and better on the other side. your life is in private anymore. >> it's not everything that's only what i choose t post. >> guess, but it's also what you choose to be educated on. like on the privacy settings area facebook knows when you are about to break up. when you're about to change your a relationship. before you do. facebook knows it. >> duty status updates, with a very large sample of people, they have learned how to be able to tell when a relationship is breaking down on facebook. >> do they say he is communicating with this person less and less, checking other people? >> is not happy, and that is in

our them and it's that something like 94% of the time it is right. they know before my friends do. >> they are not telling people and to tell you the truth, what i do on the internet is almost the real world. don't do it in the internet if you won't do it on the real world. but i do like my privacy. i like it, and i find that this book has facial recognition. there is eric at that party. it's not that i don't want everyone to know that i was there. but nor was i branding to anyone that i was there. i should be the one who gets that choice. so i think you just have to be careful. i think when you opt in, be careful what you're opting in for. >> people clearly are bothered by it. it is shown by the fact that that video got 3 million head. >> absolutely. and the thing is the whole issue came to light, i believe, because of edwards noted. everything about the nsa, it's

our own government. everyone is watching everyone and their arnos egrets. once you type in your keyboard, it's public information. and as long as you accept that you can get a lot of convenience. tonight there's a difference and i made a deal with facebook when i signed up and i didn't make a deal with the nsa. >> that's right, the deals that you are making, when he checked the box you are signing up for a lot more than that. >> or apple agreement includes a clause that prohibits you from developing nuclear warfare. not only the social media websites that know lots about it, but they made money selling what they know about it. >> so that every time you use the internet you have to agree to what they call terms and conditions.

because they are and less. few people read them. in grand central station i found one guy who said he did. you have seen the terms and conditions? >> yes. >> you ever read.? >> i do. because i want to know what i'm agreeing to. >> everyone signs because you want to use the website. and nobody reads the fine print. >> you will find this kind of language, interest, facebook, anything that people consider free. >> you guys have helped me.

>> if you read them, you click it, so what. >> the terms and conditions are designed not to be a part of this. >> they basically take away the constitution and terms and conditions and say. >> we require some to ask what they have in store. >> 1222 pages. >> yet it's easy for facebook to sit through that information and learn private things about you.

>> withi seconds he find information and within a couple of minutes you can figure out and all of these information are really easy to find. in my information, let's say i find this. what you gain is here. you can build a detailed profile about someone. this goes beyond any organization and this is something that the government have wanted for a very long time in which facebook does as well. >> at least with facebook or instagram, if i don't like what they are doing, i can say that you are selling this and i'm not going to do business with you. they pulled out of instagram and they change the policy. and so we have power with these businesses. >> overall, i think it's pretty frightening how much our privacy

is invaded and we don't know it. >> a couple of years ago facebook changed its privacy settings. >> that's right, they went from allowing users to have their settings to turning all of this on, saying that we are sharing this with the entire world. >> so you actually have to proactively go when and that is actually if you can figure it out. it's not very easy. >> mark zuckerberg was asked about it. >> we decided that this would be the social norm now. >> facebook was once private information and now it is totally public information. >> and you didn't hear about people leaving facebook. >> this is the reason that we

did this. to bring awareness to these issues. because we are busy people and we also have a desire to connect. in exchange for that we really don't want to take the time to think about the ramifications for it we just wanted to work. >> as a father out there that lose the presidential race because of something that happened he is going to give it away. >> i don't think we will blame five girls, but when you're old, definitely. people post very intimate things. >> yes, if you think about a google search engine, what you share with google is probably more personal than what you write in a diary. >> want young people sure is pretty intimate. they slept with, how they felt about it. including facebook responding with e-mails. so he chased zuckerberg down ♪

♪ >> so what was your point in doing this? >> well, you know, facebook, time and time again has told us that privacy is dead, we are pushing a social norm. but the reality is that privacy is not dead and facebook and all of the social media companies need for privacy to be dead because that is what a line their business models. >> it's free and they have to make money by selling at. >> their different business models out there. different ways in which we can share the don't involve the company aggregating every single piece of information about it. >> we are going to enter list. we need to build systems with privacy at the forefront.

the people have to understand why this matters. >> onto the next generation of privacy invading technology. google class. everything have you seen these? sometimes they have lenses that look like real glasses are a area but this is the new technology. it lets you learn more about what you are looking at and do other things as well. >> i can go like this. okay, and take your picture. >> i don't like it. if you like that is too much exposure. and i don't know how i feel about that. it's a little scary. >> it definitely freaks me out the you could know my name before i even talk to your. >> to the government do something to protect you? >> i think it will eventually have to regulate somehow. >> you think people could go on with these glass holds? >> yes. >> google actually posted a note saying that if you use google class, don't be a glass hole.

and so that is how it should work. google is saying be reasonable. >> yes, be reasonable, it captures absolutely everything and completely invades this. i don't know how you can be reasonable. >> i think it will just get better and we will just get more intrusive. >> to keep this conversation going, use the privacy hash tag. let people know what you think. >> coming up, a new way for government and others to spy on us. >> next, how cooks can use the

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johansson had some photos of herself in her computer. a hacker managed to grab them and sent them to gossip websites. jay-z, kim kardashian, credit card numbers posted on a russian website. so howow do the crooks get this information. >> we have a firewall set up, and when you say antivirus, i think of them now where things and now it is keep the crooks away. >> so if you have proper security in place.

>> it is going to keep the bad guys out, along with making sure that the consumers are engaged in the right behavior and not the wrong behavior. it would invite an attack. >> we're going to get more into what we can do to protect ourselves shortly. let's talk about what gets taken from people. >> advisor looking for the social security number on your devices, so they can use to open up new accounts under your name and fake accounts and so on. and you're probably exaggerating the threat.

>> the bad guy is the puppeteer. generally these people are losing thousands of dollars. >> consumers have today's report any fraud. they have 60 days to report that nine out of 10 consumers don't even pay attention. and i was able to buy 30 devices within a 30-mile radius of my home.

laptops, desktops, i rose and ipods. >> i thought a race means a raise? >> because of the way the technology is built, they have these partition and closets and so bad guys know how to find now. >> if you ignore fishing. every me you see an e-mail, they say click this link or update your information, generally that is designed to trick you or to screw you.

>> if i get an e-mail from my bank saying that your statement is ready, click on this link. john: so if you use a wireless network you have to have encryption. >> airports, hotels come out in the open, i can be your data is transmitted through the air. >> i do send out e-mails, i don't give out my credit card numbers that way.

the operating system is susceptible to injections of codewarrior back i can implant a virus on your machine. >> finally changing the password. >> we all tend to use the same kind of password. >> if one account gets hacked, all of those can get hacked. >> more secure going to be. if you throw your hands up in the air, then you are next on the list. >> good advice. coming up and also at of

strangers take our picture. should we care? two i don't

. >> you like the gps? >> i think it's helpful. >> you know it means they know who you are. >> who's they? >> the police, the government. it's okay, nothing to hide. john: how i feel, what if you're seeing a shrink and don't want people to know, or you just don't want government or phone company to always know where you are. too bad, says tech reporter kurt knutsson who calls himself cyberguy, big brother is here. >> big brother has been chomping at heels and privacy for years now. john: they know where i am, so what? >> i should be at least advised when my privacy is being invaded. i always knew they could findny through my blackberry or iphone, and the government says

this will prevent accidents or help determine who was at fault in the accident. this is a good thing, and they have plenty of examples, the crash in florida. the gps tracker device shows it was going 114 miles per hour, seconds before it killed two people. that was used to convict the driver of manslaughter. >> it's being used in a whole bunch of ways against you, me, and the rest of the world in civil lawsuits. gm started these in the 90s. and we want to check out the quality of our vehicles and it started from there, but there really are no rules, no boundaries and technology has evolved to where now these recorders, about the size of two decks of cards are in about 96% of every automobile that's out on the market right now. play it on tv, they'll know. maybe that gets shared with somebody else, that's prime time to hit his house and get the nice silver that his grandma gave him.

it's all sorts of opportunities are opening up when we have no ability to rein in our own privacy and to say nothing about the fact that you go to somebody's house right now to visit. your gps tracker may take you there and may show that you're there. what if that information is shared with other friends who should have been invited to the house at the same time, and you find yourself explaining, i'm sorry, yes, you weren't included in that lovely dinner. john: the government wants the trackers mandatory in all cars. they're already in more than 90%. companies use them to keep track of employees. "wall street journal" reports one company found one worker was seeing a woman during the day. another admitted he was blowing off work. they fired him but caught him with the trackers. >> they do. this may have cost savings for companies that decide to put these in the vehicle. i assume fox can legally track me by knowing where i am by my

phone, i don't know if they do. maybe they do. john: if somebody say politically in the infrastructure of your company wants to go after you because they don't like the shade of your mustache, they can start using this technology and say, you know what, john was over here and should have been over there, let's put that one down and another one down. john: we agree to that when we get paid by the company where. we don't agree is schools have been caught tracking students. >> with cameras on laptops. john: you may not know this. your laptop, of course, has the camera, and they sometimes, the police or the school in this case can remotely turn the camera on without your knowledge. >> the bells should be ringing on this one. virtually every device now that we're buying has a camera built into it. be hacked and has been readily been proved to show photographs of people who never turn the camera on. john: i put a piece of tape

over the camera lens. >> you are smart. you're smart. let's move to something more creepy, the personal drone, the military uses drones and the police but now anyone can buy one. there's a sales pitch for the phantom 2 vision. >> up in the air, take a picture of your family sitting on the beach while on vacation in hawaii and sure enough, imagine all the possibilities you can caption out. think about how you view. this think about your next vacation and you'll be shooting photos from a whole new perspective. >> or be the creepy neighbor who has no respect for your privacy. they buy one of these on amazon and load it up with high definition video. >> it gets cheaper over time. it's a phenomenal device for gathering the shots. >> you want to ban it? >> i don't want the government telling me where i can and cannot fly this device for the sake of privacy because i

believe i have my own discretion, and at the same time, the faa has chimed in on this one saying, you may not use these for commercial uses. well, what's a commercial use? and is that a rule or is this some memo out of faa. john: we'll have to see how that sorts out. thank you, kurt knutsson, coming up, would you want to do one thing that could protect you from internet spot snungs of going off the grid, going off internet connections, facebook? he planet!

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. john: i noticed something weird the other day. i was looking at several websites, and on the right of the screen were ads for libertarian book, even obscure libertarian books. i thought wow, has

libertarianism gotten so popular that advertisers run ads everywhere, how can they afford that? and i realize no, they're not advertising everywhere, they're just advertising to me. they knew i was interested in liberty. they're tracking what i do on the web! so should we worry about that? kate kaye reports on privacy and data collection for advertising age. so they know what we do? >> well, they know in a very general manner what we do. you've shared content that, articles about libertarian issues. john: are they selling that to a bookstore? >> they're allowing access to the book publisher through countless middle men online to run ads that target people who like libertarian issues. john: and they don't just know what i might buy. there was the story in

"forbes," the store figured out the teen was pregnant before her father did. >> they outed her. john: explain that. >> so target, like pretty much any other big retailer, they track what you buy, right? >> so what target did, they determined pregnant women buy a lot of moisturizer during a certain trimester and other products, so the teenager ended up in that pool of people who would get, you know, in the mail a bunch of coupons for whatever the moisturizer was or the other products that pregnant women buy. john: and mailed her the coupons, and her father asked, why are you getting these? >> the story that typifies how marketers use information and how much information they're collecting on us. john: they know before you may even know, said a guy in the previous segment about who you're going to break up with.

>> maybe. john: what other data collection do people not know about? >> companies can track us by proxy thugh phones, track where we're going. our locations. so we might be in, you know, a department store, or in a restaurant, and they can track whether or not we lingered in front of a shoe display for a few minutes. john: but they could just see that. they're in the store. >> it's a lot easier for them to track patterns of -- especially with huge numbers of people coming into a store over, say, weeks or a month, they can, they can -- if they have it digitized, they can analyze it readily. john: if they see the customer this phone was near the house is, i may get an ad for shoes. >> you might get it still in the store, that's the gall. they want to capture you right there. john: i can tell from your tone of voice, while getting the ad may be annoying, you don't find

any of this threatening? >> i wouldn't surmise that. [ laughter ] >> okay. what's threatening. >> anything that can be digitized is generating data. and marketers want it. all sorts of companies want it. the government wants it, everybody wants it. we should be aware of it. john: is there anything to be scared of? >> i think that we need to -- >> we have this scary title "they know what you do." >> we need to be less fearmongering about these issues and more knowledgeable about them, and the more everyday people can learn about the realities of what's happening and the nuances of what's happening, then, maybe they can see maybe i'm comfortable with these guys having my information, not these guys. >> if i buy an advertiser supported app like angry birds. >> right. john: if i don't pay for it, i get ads and in exchange they know i was in new york city and not in chicago so i'll get new

york store ads. if you're worried about who's grabbing your internet searches, there are apps that claim they'll help. >> you not many things are more personal than what you search for online. typical searches are anything but private. >> you know when you browse the web you are tracked. you don't realize how many companies have pieces of your information. >> these profiles misrepresent you, not only do they affect your browsing experience, they affect you, the real you, you might get more relevant ads but at what cost. john: the video says they misrepresent you, slow down browsing experience. is this true? >> the slowing down of the browser experience is definitely true. how many websites do you visit on a regular basis and it takes five seconds to load the page because there's an ad trying to come up. john: i downloaded disconnect and tells me when i use google chrome and go to facebook, all these other sites grab

information from me as well. so i go to amazon, these sites watch. even one of my favorite sites, reason.com has all the other sites spying on my interests. and this tells me that but doesn't stop it. >> right. john: there are companies that promise to stop it. >> yeah, but really the easiest way, if you're using mozilla firefox as browser or internet explorer which most people use, there are settings, you can go into settings and tell it, you know, that you want certain types of tracking disabled. john: on my computer, it gives me a choice to clear my history. >> uh-huh. john: and that takes it off my computer, but google still knows. >> yeah, because that information is gathered as it's happening in realtime. so google, facebook. john: it doesn't party. >> it's in the databases, it's

waiting for the nsa to pick up. >> people using my computer, they can't see where i was. thank you, kate kaye, is that your real name? >> yes. john: there is one foolproof way to make sure business can't track your interests on the web. stop using the internet! and your smartphone! some people try that. they call it going off the grid. that's next. [ male announcer ] legalzoom has helped start over 1 million businesses. if you have a buness idea, we have a personalized legal solution that's right for you. with easy step-by-step guidance, we're here to help you turn your dream into a reali. start your business today with legalzoom.

. john: i'm addicted, every day a spend at least an hour on the web. i need google and facebook! i read on my kindle. i no longer watch the weather channel because i can't stand to wait six minutes for the local forecast. i get into my little phone and so on. now i'm told there was a time when we didn't have one of these things, but i can't believe. that i don't see how we could have survived! since on this show we learned some people are upset that businesses know what we do on the web, it made me want to ask people this -- >> would you ever give up facebook and the internet for your privacy. >> no, no, i value it too much. >> no way, no way. i love facebook. >> no, that's like going off the planet.

john: only two people said they might give it up. and yet some americans go off the grid, some say they want to break their internet addiction, do digital detox because they think that will give them deeper real connections with people, and they don't get that when they are all on the web. most people stay off the web for maybe a week or month but most come back, paul miller went off the grid for a year. why? >> well, it was too much. i was using only internet for all of my life. i had been doing it since i was a danger, i worked online, all my friends were online. john: you were a contributing editor at the verge. >> a technology writer. i was sort of overwhelmed and i wanted to quit and get away. john: are you scared they're watching you? does it bother you? >> it doesn't bother me as a technology person, there are so many cool things if a company knew everything about me, they could predict that -- hey, paul

is depressed and stopped taking medication and we should call his mom. but that's terrifying for a lot of people but might be comforting for me. john: the day you started your friends gave you a countdown and helped you unplug your intersection connections. >> 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. paul's off the internet, dude. john: so you were off and then what happened? >> well, it was great at first, it was kind of a -- i kind of got like a high, like a zen thing where nothing could bother me anymore and i was at peace with the world and at one with myself, and there's a lot of boredom but that led me to read more and write more and be more productive. and then that kind of came around on me and i got pretty lonely. john: you said you were lonely. >> bored and sad. so -- yo >> fell out of sync with your friends. >> i just wasn't in on their

radar, so i wanted to get invited to the party. john: you wrote an article off-line, love, loss and dating without facebook. >> yeah. i met a girl and i literally didn't know her last name for like a month. i would hang out with her and talk with her and knew her first name. john: otherwise you would have gone to facebook. >> i didn't have photos with her, no way to stalk her. john: you wrote i could only learn about her through conversation. what's wrong with that? >> wonderful, interesting, it's just a little weird, different. john: a lot of people wondered if you were dead? >> uh-huh. yeah, well, a lot of the internet is just, i call touching base with people.as a . i still exist, i'm still around, i posted something on twitter, doesn't matter what it is. i continue to exist. john: and suddenly you stop. >> when you don't have a constant internet presence, you

don't quite exist to people. and now, i'm back on the internet but i use twitter less, and people are like what happened to paul. something seriously is wrong because i haven't updated my internet presence. john: you wrote without the internet, my world has shrunk. >> makes you have to focus what's right in front of you. people in front of you and the books in front of you, you obviously can't have your fingers in everything. you can't keep track of everything anymore. and the thing is that it was really selfish of me because that's where the people are. john: was it hard for a year? >> i couldn't do it again. but for that time i just was sort of in the, you know -- you. >> couldn't do it again? why not? >> it's just a role. went off in a cabin for two years, he wrote walden. >> he did a good job. that's the thing, i didn't have

that. it didn't fix my life, it didn't fix everything. it wasn't the pfect experience, you know. and i don't have a diatribe against society to write now that i'm back about how people should stop heating their homes. i feel real life is the internet and i want to use the internet better and have self-control with it and be better at it, but it's real life, that's where things are happening, i need to be there. john: thank you, paul miller. >> thank you. john: coming up, if they are watching us all that time, what do we really lose?

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john: led if i don't want that guy to know what i'm doing? go way. leave us alone. >> the leges it is pointless to complain. privacy is a thing of the past the web site called google's allows anyone anywhere to learn all kinds of things for free. any stranger can see dozens of pictures of me. some of these i did not one to send all around the world but too bad for me some of these are not even me some more photoshop but i have no control. likewise to reveals

information about me. some of it is wrong but little i can do about that either. facebook knows my preferences and who i might stockier and other sites like to track web browser what i read in and and should be sad but i am not ty depend on getting of sending emails for all i know my neighbor sells them to my political enemy and i have plenty of those. so far i don't think that has happened but who knows? because of today's technology i change my behavior years ago i tried not to e-mail anything too embarrassing. i will deal with that if you find out what i'd like to do on the weekender what medication might take or by have seen a psychotherapist i am not ashamed. if i do something really embarrassing a better duets in private.

for all the privacy i have lost would never give up my cellphone or favorite web sites to get it back. they provide so much good stuff with quick access to the whole world it begins to lose some privacy oh well that is the price to pay for progress. what's upsets me is when i asked people like you worried about your privacy in all the information do you worry more about government or business? >> business. >> business. >> business. john: john boehner stand that all those businesses can sell me stuff for bother with advertisements? so what? only one woman gave a sensible answer. >> i am more nervous about government. >> right. government can use force government employees can forcibly take our money and put us in jail and take your

freedom government spying is a bigger threat anything business might do. that is our show. see you next week. >> have a great day, everybody. forget about warnings that obama care will flat line jobs. are we seeing the first sign it's actually happening now? hi everyone. this is "bulls and bears." small businesses saying the health care law is holding back hiring and forcing some to start cutting, while big companies like ge say it's impacting medical businesses. so are all the warnings starting to come true right now? here we go. "bulls and bears" this week. we have our panel. welcome to everybody. john, are we now seeing what you and others have been predicting? >> yeah.