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years. now wants to leave more troops there until the end of 2016, his promise to end of war will not be honored until he is out of office. mr. obama. >> most direct threat to america at home and abrad remains terrorism. strategy that involves invadeing every country that harbors terrorist networks is naive, and unstaunsustainunsustain basebal. >> president ordered home depot to delay a review of deporting until the end of the summer. won williams, and ed rollins will take up the amnesty agenda.

>> he battled 6 other candidates in senate primary in georgia, jack wing ston, telling us why the taoer tea party failed in ga and why he will win the july 22 run off, president obama did not mention veterans affair scandal in his westpoint speech. despite the fashion he was talking to those who will rely on the v.a. healthcare. many of them. they are holding a rare nighttime hearing with 3 top v.a. officials, scheduleed to begin within this hour. we will go to it live. tonight's hearing just hours after the official watch dog for the v.a., released a scatheing report, that report saying that v.a. has what he called a systemic problem with clinics that lie about patient wait times.

this so-called interim report, looked into the phoenix v.a. facility where 4 40 veterans allegedly dieed while awaiting treatment, according to inspector general's interim report, 1700 of our veterans in phoenix, were left off of official wait list, those who were on the list, had to wait an average of 115 days for their first appointment for care. v.a. secretary, eric shinseki called these latest findings, represenhedid not offer his res. >> our enemies are standing in line to grab the political and material spoils. joining us retired major general rodger scales, good to have you with us. >> hello. >> the speech, commencement

address at westpoint, your first thoughts about its consistency. and its if you will, foundation for a view toward our future. >> first of all, the speech was all over the place, it was a speech that was written by a committee. i find interesting is underlying theme, which circumstance united state -- when is, the united states can going to withdraw from the world stage, slowly, by increment and cedrerbgde areas e world, only thing he mentioned that was least bit offensive was his desire to as he says pivot to asia, and confront the chinese. look, lou, a war college 101. when you create a vacuum in

global affairs, someone always fills it. there are go number of bad actors in the world who are seeking to fill that void that is left by the withdrawal of american military power, first in nato, then in middle east, two regions of the world that are most in our vital national interest, lou. lou. >> general you were 1 a cadet at -- once a cadet at westpoint, listening to a commonment speaker, this is team to you this was a commander in chief speaking with great authority, energy and inspireation to futurel leaders of our army. >> interesting this is 40-something odd years ago for me, robert mcnamara who told us we were going to win in street vietnam, but there was not a john f. kennedy, pay any price,

bear any burden speech, this speech was all over the place, trying to get it all in within 20 minutes, if you read betweens lines, the u.s. is slowly pulling back from its commitment, surely the taliban started their clock at ape 18 months when they could resume their offensive in afghanistan when the last of our close combat forces leave that country. lou: to v.a., a san diegoing respect -- scatheing respect as ing report as isaid, we have a f integrity within the leadership of the v.a. or this could not be happening. not to the men and women who serve this country in uniform. your reaction? whether or not general shinseki should resign? what in the world are we doing having a discussion about it? why aren't we doing something? and why are these eternal

investigations and studies when we have right before us a very clear statement about its leadership? >> well, first of all, my own experiencing, i suffer from agent orange disease, i had to wait a year and a half just to gets in benefiting office, i understand this, i think that important thing, lou is stop this studies, stop the finger pinning. and fixs problem 6789 treat the veterans, a very simple solution, i have been talking about for over a year, is to give these veterans who wait more than two weeks, vouchers to go to any clinic in their area, and get their problem taken care of, in the clock needs to start, on day one, on day 14 they go to v.a., they get a voucher until the v.a. ghosts it get to gets t together, cleans house, the clock continues to tick on sick veterans, let the world's

greatest healthcare system, take care of these veterans, until we get your act together. lou. lou. general great to have you here. >> and a strike against obama administration proposeed new restricts on gas restricts from cold fire power plants. today the chamber am coaster released a report, saying that proposal could cost 50 billion a year, cost as many as 224,000 jobs each year, through the year 2030. >> nsa leakeer they call him, na traitor edward snowden is rejectings notion he was a low level systems administration or. >> i was trained as a spy, in

the traditional sense of word, i lived undercover, overseas, pro tens to -- pretends to work in a job that i'm not. >> he blamed state department for stranding him in russia. secretary of state john kerry fired back against that claim. >> the bottom line is, this is a man who has betrayed his country, sitting in russia, where he is taken refuge. you know he should man up, come back to the united states. >> we're coming right >> president obama couldn't bring himself to report on deportations, he hopes john boehner will somehow push immigration legislation through the house. juan williams, and ed rollins next on whether the republicans are crazy enough, dumb enough to fall into the trap.

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have joined in call for veterans affair secretary eric shinseki to resign, iraq war veteran john walsh, and vulnerable democrats kay hagen and mark udall making those calls on a new ad. >> senator mark sits on the veteran's affairs committee, his response, if there is a problem, they need to fix it. if there is a problem? now some senators are blocking ing bipartisan legislation to shake up the v.a. and enforce accountability. when veterans are dying it is a problem. lou: joining us now, columnist for the hill, juan williams, and former political reagan drag director ed rollins, we start

with the v.a. can this president, continue to stonewall a scandal of this dimension affecting so many of our veterans? >> this something people understand. you don't get to see a doctor when you are sick or you need, they think that everyone who serves, they need to be taken care of, they are not, it could could be like karina, which -- katrina, this was breaking points for george w. bush, people say, at-this-point i may disagree with the to the on a lot of things, but i coul but ip hepbgcompetent if they they cane care of our veterans. lou: it is incompetent? >> no, i don't think that at all. but i think that ed has an important points. which is that if you think back

to the failed roll out of obamacare with computers and the like, his number one domestic priority, his legacy item, if you will, in terms of his presidency, he could not get it right, we come back now to veterans department, and people say, this is something you have to get right for our people for our soldiers for people who put themselves on the line, yes, we well two difficult wars, we have all sorts of people alive now who would have been dead in past wars, yes have you done something about the backlog, but why can't you immediately solve the problem of a secret waiting list? it looks like a case of corruption affecting our most vulnerable people, and no clear and quick resolution. for that, the danger is, you are incometinincompetent, dude. lou: and again in a verdict on

this administration. administration, he is talking about immigration at the same time, we are talking about our veterans being poorly treated, in some cases dying, wants treatment. this assault of the wrong signals -- this is all of the wrong signals and tones taken and very little accomplished. >> biggest issue is, americans made a decision to have a voluntary military, their sons and daughters did not have to get drafted, we have had have a proportion al-milhtary -- professional military, we have, that we will take care of them with an obligation. they will have head injuries and have long-term, we as a nation we havwe have a right to take cf them. lou: let me say to that, if i may, i believe that these were sons and daughters of all of americans, not 4% of the americans, a group that has become something of a special group of americans.

under themselves. i think that this would not be tolerateed for a moment if this were affecting every family in this country, this is one reason that i firmly would love to see the draft instituted without question, if they are going to be burdens and sacrificeed it should be across, then i will shut up. >> couldn't agree with you more. >> juan? >> i agree with you, but you know, politically, it is a nonstarter. it foes nowhere -- it goes nowhere, if you say just do public service in terms of serving your government. >> we're not going to abolish the volunteer army but we better fix this thing to take care of off troops, but as president points you on we run veterans hospital, they are best run in america, highest satisfaction

rate in the country, that is bunk today and proven every debut stories coming out. >> no, no, it is still the case that people, older veterans think a lot, of the healthcare offered by v.a. the ratings are better than general healthcare system. lou: we have become a society, and perhaps a chattering class that often rely on polls, and survey, there is a reality of what is happening, that is in our v.a. system, is disgusting, appalling and painful. >> you are going overboard, you are going way overboard. when i go -- >> i get to go overboard. i get to change the subject under guys of a time constraint. >> this is walter -- visit walter ride you will be proud. lou: i have, i have been in military hospitals with our

wonderful staffs of the hospitals, who give such great care. and i made that points a number of times, but reality is, for hundreds, thousands, of veterans, the v.a. system is failing, we have to acknowledge that, and move on to get it fixed. >> i'm with. >> you, i agree. >> let me turn to the speech at westpoint. your reaction? >> not inspiring to a group of young future leaders of the military. it looked like a weak leader, justifying all he has done. i worked for a couple of presidents, i want a president to do well in particular in front of that audience,. lou: juan? >> i thought it was a pragmatic look at way the world is today, it really was, cutting back in terms of saying here is what an aggressive forward looking america, american military would be up to, he said we are not going to be a country that is going to war any more, he is

defineing his presidency as not the george w. bush presidency with that speech it seems to me. lou: why would it take him 5 years to say he is not george w. bush. a question -- you know, in all seriousness. it is good to hear a president talk about the limits of power. it is good to hear this president talk about military adventureism at an end, it will upset some on right, he will upset some on the left. but suggesting that we be engaged in the world. but i do' to give him credit for talking about limits of power. it is -- it requires a much longer discussion, then 20 minute speech at westpoint. but i think he is on the right track there. at least. juan williams thank you. >> ed rollins thank you. >> thank you. >> great to be with you. lou: to latest to marine jail for two months in mexico who case has been all but ignored by

boobama administration. by the president. publicly. 25-year-old sergeant andrew, today had his first hearing in court, after he was arrested on march 31, as he mistakenly crossed border with registered his registered guns in his pickup truck. there was not -- we're told much progress, because the sergeant fired his attorney for allegedly telling him to lie to mexico an authorities. he is scheduled to appear in court again with a new attorney. that hearing is sit for next wednesday. >> we have yet to hear the president of the united states speak about a man who is an active member of the u.s. marine corps, and who is a veteran of the conflicts in afghanistan and iraq. be sure to vote in on-line poll, do you believe it is disgraceful that president obama hay been unable to bring home marine

saeurpblsergeant tamarisi and ht mentioned his name since high was jailed in mexico? >> here are last night's on-line poll hraoults, d results. >> do you believe president obama will ever remove al all of our troops from afghanistan, 21% said yes, 79% aid no. >> quotation of the evening. we thought it appropiate to quote maya anjelou, said one is know necessarily born with courage, but one is born with potential, without courage we cannot practice any other virtue with consistenty, we cannot be kind, true, merciful, generous or honest.

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lou: coming up here in just moments we'll be joined by congressman jack kingston, telling us why the tea party is flaming out in georgia, whyly will wileahy will win the run on july, and wild be joined by -- we'll be joined by radio hosts. but first, a few thoughts on the obama administration's outing of top cia official in afghanistan. a disclosure portrayed by just about the entire media, as an accidental leak or clerical mistake. the white house is now investigating itself, how the os name, was september out in an e-mail on -- sent out in an e-mail to thousands of

journalists saturday, putting the life of that spy and his family in danger, i am very skeptical, and stunned by the number of reporters and columnists who are compliant in their acceptance of this station chief prone blown cover, an act by obama administration strikeed in seemingly every story as accidental. >> i tweeted over the weekend, quote, accidental, stays who? says who? the same administration that is investigating what the administration did and said, is there any member of liberal national media who still has sufficient, and independent -- far less than straight with media. with the public? i handful of former intelligence officials also spoke out. former cia director michael haze en said, it looks like a rookie

but this is year 6 of the administration. >> pete, said, this is not the president's first trip overseas. these kinds of mistakes, is pretty inic use i'l economy usex usable. and valley plame, quote, astonishing. all those former intelligence operatives and officials accept it was a mistake. just as the obama administration told them. perhaps that is because this administration is so hapless, so incompetent, one more mistake that destroys one intelligence

officer's entire career, is believable. to report in the most dangerous region in global war on radical islamist terror, i believe that 5person or persons responsible should be spend is prison, anything less would demonstrate only a little regard that white house has for those who risk their lives, to serve this nation. a commencement address to future leaders of the army would have been an appropriate setting to communicate that respect, and concern and promise action. rather than philosophy about use and limit of american geo political initiatives and military force. >> up next, he survived a 7 way race for republican senate nomination in georgia, and now,

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conservative voting record no the race. i think, in reality conservative branch of party did well, i am working hard to make sure we keep it in the family, so to speak. i would say that georgia tea party, conservative. branch of republican party is in great shape. lou: and tea party supporting you? you -- maybe far more important than that, you have hershal walker on your side. >> you know. hershal walker is a guy that everyone in georgia loves, everyone in -- i think america loves hershal walker, i am proud we have newt gingrich. and eric erickson, and karen handle, and we have very solid conservatives who have come to our side, we're delighted to be working with them. lou: chamber of commerce.

i've been saying to the republican party som for some t, you better start talking about people who are doing the work, small, men and women who work arfor a living, middle class, yu being supported by chamber does not mean you will forget those folks. >> i am proud to have the chamber's endorsement, they are number one jobs advocate in america, we have a 100% lifetime rating with national federation of independent businesses that largely is suspect outed by smaller -- supported by smaller businesses, i come from main street, i have a business background, i am very sim theftisympathetic to main stree. lou: and you and michelle nun n if you prevail, calling for shinseki to resign, do you think that is his fate? >> i think so, but it should not stop there, there are a lot of

people who were playing games with the waiting list. you have to have it cleaned up. you know last year, we intrer introduceed anment in that was passed in -- an amendment in the house was passed said if v.a. did not clean up their backlog, salaries in administration would be cut across the board by 25%, you have to have that approach to send a signal, not just through the v.a. but other federal bureaucracys as well. lou: congressman, sharing picture with you, is one of the dr. lynch, one of those three who are testifying to before the house. veterans affairs committee. we want to let audience know that hearing has begun, we'll go to it here on this broadcast. i know you are eager for a run off, to be had, that comes up on

july 22. what do you think is the -- i know you think you are prevail. what makes -- when gaves you our greatest confidence? >> well, we believe that we're right on the issues. our opponent has come out, with tax increase, and flip floped a number of other issued and sat on the board of a company that received stimulus money. so, you know we believe that this is a case of a tested, proo,proven conservative versusd moderate fli philliposer. -- bli flip flip-flopper they cn pea--can compare my record with. lou: we appreciate it. congressman jack kin stopbg thank you so much. >> now, our word of the evening, modesty. humility, moderate, simple, a

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lou: joining us now, richard fowler, and dana lash. radio talk show hosts. thank you for being here, let's start with westpoint. richard fowler, that is one of the most confusing analysis of geo politics i heard by a president. are you clear in what directory

headed? >> i think he has said, go put our men and women in harm's way is not how we win back the global fight we're talking part of. we have to rebuild the economy at home, we can use drones, special ops to solve pro of the world's problem, right now the problem is war on terror, this president is leading on that, if he continues to lead on this by not putting men and women -- >> how, dana can the president lead on that, if just during the presidential elect he told us all that al qaeda is on the run, and general motors just thriving? >> lou, i appreciate you having me on. i was a little bit confused by president's speech, in particular the part that richard references, he said, i like what he said just because we have the hammer does not mean that every problem is a nail, but leading in the war on terror, i have to

question, that this week revealed secretary of state john kerry is colludeing with white house hoping to push 5 50 5 50 n in funding ain't terror programs -- antiterror programs, and we're questioning where that money is going. and they have discussed how rebels, a number of groups went larger syrian rebel force have fledged al allegiance to al qae, we do not know to whom we're spending money, talking about training and armying syrian rebels with aly reasolygence wil qaeda. >> wait on that points, we saw ronald reagan give money toal taliban 30 years ago. we have to do as a nation, figure out best way to create stability in middle east, that is more than just weapons, it is diplomacy. >> i don't understand why this

presidential ways talks about chain when he want -- change when high w on everyone else's track record. in 2012, same thing with bush, why are we suess using this just justification for his failure to change policy. lou: why wouldn't the president have talked about president's affair scandal before the future leader. and talk about the sergeant held in a mexican prison, a man whom he has not spoken or taken act to remove. that seems to me, rather important salient facts of our life, as he talks about his foreign policy into military leaders. to be. >> i have to tell you, with veteran issues this is disheartening to me, and a lot of americans, sadly our veterans are always getting the shorten

of the stick. we have seen this countryy in y neglect our veterans, this is not the first president who made this mistake. lou: now you blame every president since world war ii? >> we have always had an issue with our veterans, question is how do we fix that? that is what this president is focused on. lou: i can't wait to see the reports how we do, that rather than someone take action, dana. >> on that points, i would disagree, on this president's watch we saw shinseki be integrated into his position now, 14 day rule he failed to implement and enforce, and spending for veteran's affair budget increased 230 something% we're throwing money and refusing to manage properly that is what is hurting our veterans, this president ran on changing

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lou: search for extra tes extral life, backdrop for thriller from douglas preston, his new book, the kraken project, exploring what happens when technology designed to advance mankind begins to turn on its architects. douglas great to have you, congratulation on a new book, a terrific thriller. how does this -- did you decide, why did you decide to make it the center piece of what drives your thriller? >> well, nasa is planning a mission to the great moon of titan, only moon that has oceans. they are of thai methane not the water, they are dropping a boat or a raft into a sea, the kraken sea, perform first extra

terrestrial sea voyage, i was thrilled to hear about this mission. the problem is that this raft is going to have be artificially intelligent. a 4 hour trip, through light to you know come go. >> earth to titan and back. so, they can't control the raft from mission control. the raft has to makes it own decision,. lou: hence the ai. >> and well behaveed as we learn from another writer, clark, there is an important set of values that have to be present in that, whether it be hal or dorothy. >> they -- nasa they talk about the hal problem, they are terrified of putting artificial intelligence into a space craft, because what happens in if 500 million dollar staeu spacecrafts a wrong decision.

lou: your book is a -- page-turner. it can be read in a very short time, you look at all concepts you are dealing with. the most complex issues facing up. technology issues and a spell binder to boot. how much damage, what you -- technology, what you project in ththe book is realistic. >> all of it, it is science almost fact. for example, i was at cia headquarters a couple year ago they have a museum of gadgets there from 1960s, declassified. not open to the public. but i have have a mechanical fish and a dragonfly, to fly into a room, gather intelligence. i thought, wow, if that is what they had in 60s, what do they have today. lou: nano technology.

a long with a i, -- is that possible you think right now? >> it, i found out, you know i am a novelist, people say to me, that, they are working on miniature drones, i call home drone sects, in a are the size of a fly or largeer that will gather intelligence, fly band will actually perhaps engage in asasassassination. they require artificial intelligence, they can not be controlled with a human operator like our drones today. lou: are we smart enough to create artificial intelligence that will repair to highest standards in values, even though ours has not, the kraken project, douglas preston, great to have you here, much luck with the book. >> thank you. lou: see us soon oline, on sale,

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