that is it for tonight "willis report", thank you for joining us. do not forget to dvr the show if you can't catch us live. we will see you on monday. good evening, everybody. illegal immigrant children are flooding over our southern border with mexico. the department of homeland security estimating nearly 60,000 children will cross our border illegally without their parents this year. secretary jeh johnson of homeland security claim thad number will actually double next year. the obama administration now estimates the cost of feeding, housi housing, and transporting at nooert $2 billion to u.s. taxpayers. johnson testified before the house judiciary committee today and he was either unable or unwilling to provide any

concrete specific answers as to how our federal government plans to deal with this crisis. >> could you describe this plan to this committee? >> sure. a couple of things, and it's definitely a work in progress. we're building on this because it's a growing problem, and we need to take steps to address it, and i'm open to additional steps. in fact, when i go back to my office, i'm going have meeting on this very subject. >> unbelievable. he told the committee he's reached out to the health and human services the help and is looking to others as well. a detailed plan of action to respond to the crisis is nonexistent. committee chairman bob good lot pressed the chairman with the illegal immigrants with criminal convictions who were lease last year, a group that includes nearly 200 murderers, more than

400 convicted sexual predators. listen to secretary johnson once again evade the question. >> isn't it also true that the dhs could have detained most of these criminal aliens but simply chose not to? >> chairman, i myself would like a deeper understanding of this issue. like at the same list you've seen, and i've seen some pretty serious criminal convictions on that list, including hom signed other things, and so i want a deeper understanding of this issue myself to make sure we're doing everything we should be doing. >> >> commissioner bob goodlatte will be joining us with a few moments. we'll talk about johnson's evasion and refusal to become forthcoming. we assume he has some of the answers he would not share with the committee. we'll see what the chairman of

that committee believes to be the case. and one tea party group is so frustrated with the lack of action in the fbi's so-called investigation into the irs targeting scandal that they're now offering a substantial reward for information that does lead to those responsible for the scandal. katherine engel brett with us tonight as well. my next guest slamming president obama during the house committee meeting. he said the president's deadlines and threats of executive action on immigration will backfire and make any action harder. joining us now, congressman bob goodlatte. chairman of the house judiciary committee. it's good to have yo with us. i'd like to, if i could, turn to secretary johnson. i don't know if i've seen more troubling, vague, ambiguous

answers from a person responsible for a department of the federal government. >> well, it's a very troubled government department, and the enforcement of our immigration laws clearly are not only not being enforced but not being understood by leadership in that department. $2 billion being sent to help children who show up uncompanied at our border get into the united states should inextend be spent to deport the 36,000 criminal aliens who were released onto our streets after they had been convicted of crimes, many of them very serious crimes, and then served their time, and instead of being turned over and detained until they were deported to their own country, let back out on the streets to commit more crimes, which is what we know happens when you have high recidivism rates and they have high recidivism rates. >> with that knowledge, shared, one presumes, by the leadership

of the department of homeland security and its various agencies, how is it that this is happening that our government is not enforcing laws, that is permitting this kind of conduct de facto amnesty seems to be the result on the part of this administration. what more do you know today and can you give american tax pairs and citizens any comfort that the federal government actually knows what the hell it's doing? >> well, i know there are members of the union that represents the i.c.e. for enforcing the laws who share yours and my frustration. there are people who want to do their job but they're being told exactly the opposite from this administration, and that's what you have when you have a head of our government who says either going to do it my way or we're not going to do it at all. i've got my pen and my cell

phone and i'm going to act unilaterally. the constitution doesn't give them the authority do that, but when he sends a message, that sends the message down below that the president doesn't want these laws enforced and therefore, guess what, they're not being enforced. and that is, as you noted from my comments this morning, exactly the problem with doing immigration reform. how can you do it when one side urges the president to break the law and unilaterally take action here and then won't negotiate because they want to have the president act. and the other side, the conservatives look at this and say why should we negotiate. why should we write new laws when the president won't enforce new laws that very have today. this kind of activity isn't hurting this but also other areas where the constitution has the ability and responsibility to legislate. the president has the duty not to legislate but faithfully execute the laws as passed by the congress.

he's not doing it, and this is where we find ourselves as a result. >> and, congressman, all of the terrific work that you have done as the chair of the house judiciary committee, your committee, unwound over the last couple of months by the leadership of which you were apart with this constant flirtation on the part of your leadership, specifically in the person of speaker boehner to negotiate with the very man you say you don't trust whose record is lying out there in front of all of us. here's man who agrees with amnesty and you say you can work with him and now decide you can't. the man is trurkt worthy in what area that wow give you such the confidence do such a thing? >> the thing the republicans should do is spell out their areas of all the laws on immigration that need to be reform and do it the way we think to do it, not any gauche

wait with the president. he clearly with his pen and his cell phone -- >> mr. chairman, your committee did just that with exactly four pieces of legislation. >> that's right. >> your speaker has told you to go to hell. >> no, he has not said that but he hasn't seen the opportunity to go to the floor. >> perhaps i over-- >> unless it has a majority, a sizeable majority of the house to bring legislation forward. i think those bills are in that place and could be brought forward, but i don't get to make that decision. i think we do need to show the american people that there's a right way to enforce our immigration laws and a right way to enforce our immigration laws. this president doesn't get. >> it would you agree with me that there would be certain electoral suicide for the republican taska pit late and agree to amnesty, so called comprehensive immigration reform

legislated this year? >> i completely agree with you. the step-by-step approach that we outlined at the beginning of this congress and that we have stuck by throughout and i've had great support from the members of my committee and a lot of other members in the house is the way to go. it's the way to resolve this problem. it does need to be addressed but it does need to be addressed in the right way with enforcement, not just passing laws, but enforcement, operating effectively and including state and local governments. that's the thing we need to see. and this hearing today pointed out how we're not seeing that at all. they've cut funding and encouraged states to participate in the current community and other programs where information about convicted criminal aliens is shared with the federal government. so the intention is to be able to deport them more quickly and more easily and not have them in the country. and instead they are diminishing those programs. >> now, as you say, more than

diminishing, i would they have gutted the 287 g program prince employ because it's effective. >> safe act introduced by trey gowdy not only restores that but you have a right as a state to participate in it and the government can't kick you out without cause, which is skpanltly what they did after the supreme court rendered its decision. if arizona couldn't have been kicked oust that program, there would be better enforcement of the laws. but as soon as that decision came out. the obama administration kicked them out. they shouldn't be able to do that. that's one of the things the law does which is to make sure we have meaningful laws so the president can't flip a switch and decide not to enforce the law. >> congressman, as always, good to have you with us.

a frustrating day but an informative day for the american people. is there any prospect at all that the republican conference can come up with a response to this crisis of children from central america primarily being literally dumped on our side of the border and as many as 60,000 people this year, young children, next year doubled that number. what are we going to do? >> yes. well, first of all, showing them the doorstep and claiming political asylum should not be the basis for then being given a ticket into the united states with the ability to get a job and everything else that goes with that. the mexican government has even offered to work with us on securing their southern border with guatemala. this is new with the mexican government and i'm glad to see that because, you know, when we helped them stop getting people into mexico, it solves the

problem for both our country and their country, so there are solutions that can take place, but it takes leadership and it takes this administration saying the right way to do immigration reform is to start by reinforcing the law. >> chairman goodlatte good to have you with us. >> thank you. >> good luck. she was targeted and harassed by the internal revenue service because she is a conservative. and now she's put out a million-dollar bounty to find the person or persons responsible for the irs scandal. she joins us next.

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justice. her nonprofit is now offering a $1 million bounty to anyone who

provides information leading to the conviction of anyone involved in that scandal. joining us now, catherine engelbrecht, a victim irs scandal, a founder of true the vote. thank you for being with us. >> thanks a lot. >> a million dollars is a lot of money. have you had a nibble reaction? >> a lot more than a nibble. we have been -- we have been overwhelmed with a response. both the people who are coming forward with information and people who are coming forward to tell their own stories. this is -- this is something that the people have been waiting for, an opportunity to find justice and we look forward to being a part of it. >> would you include in that reward, say, fbi agents, anyone who could help you? >> absolutely, absolutely. this is -- >> i don't know what the rules are for them. >> lou, i think -- i think we now know that left to their own

devices, this administration intends to run the clock out. it's time to open the floodgates to the citizenry. i think they're ready to talk. >> to your knowledge, does the fbi have agents who have begun asking questions? have they talked with you? they basically have not talked to any of the victims of the irs targeting scandal. >> they certainly haven't talked to me. we've been wait eing over a yea >> that's incredible. >> and there doesn't appear to be any getting to the bottom of it. >> it seems to be one scandal after another. at some point the american people will surely say enough is enough. >> i think they're saying it, and think they're going be able to say it loud and clear through the bounty project. this crowd sourcing of a $1 million bountty, it's a table turner, it's a game-changer.

i think if they think they can sweep it under the rug, they need to thing again. the citizens are ready to stand up. >> the tea party in this mid-election year, i am among those who don't see any power in the tea party. does it have a lot of juice yet just unseen at this point? >> i think that citizens are ready to break from convention, and i think we're going to continue to see people that are finding their passion. turning those passions into action that i think are going to have a profound impact on the ballot box in the primary states we still have left and in the general. these are historic days. >> catherine, you certainly are part of that history and we appreciate you being here. up next, my kmoncommentarya the hypocrisy when they're ♪

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but first, a a few thoughts on business realities, not the condition of industry or business in this country really, but the messaging of some of our best

known companies that are posing is something that frankly they simply are not. it's as if some businesses have chosen to follow the lead of savvy political strategists rather than corporate american media consultants and traditional branding strategists. companies like levi's, starbucks, and chipotle, now going to great lengths to persuade their customers that the organizations are really socially conscious and environmentally friendly, and, by the way, they incidentally also produce a product that they want to sell and their customers want to buy. take levi's. its ceo is actually telling people they're the ones wasting water because their customers wash the jeans they buy too damn much, too damn often. the ceo's solution?

stop washing your jeans and save the world. >> 50% of the water is consumed by the time the consumer gets their jeans. the other 50% is after the consumer buys them in the store and starting washing them all the time. >> do you take ownership of that? >> we're trying to educate the consumers. actually these are one of my favorite jeans. these jeans are maybe a year old and these have yet to see a washing machine. i know that sounds totally disgusting. >> he's trying to educate his consumers. who needs the education here. now, it sounds really like levi's bright ideas to have its customers take responsibility and ownership for the environmental impact of levi jeans while avoiding its own responsibilities. and also i think it's fair to say thinking they're being pretty cute at the same time. the company uses 50% of the water, the consumer 50%. the consumer gets 100% of the

responsibility. i'm shocked the company didn't just quit mak selling those jeans in order to demonstrate their pure commitment to the environment and, of course, you know, i think that would have been the decent thing to do. and for that kind of thinking, levi's ceo gets $9.5 million a year. now, that's inspiring. and then there's chipotle, the fast food chain that puts out animated evils about the genetically modified food that appears as fresh food, and they don't like guns either. i just want to make sure you understand that. but what are they doing about paying their workers higher wages. they said they could absorb it. but that's all they said in the public debate. that's all they said. i wonder if they can pay the two

executi executives cheaper. each earned more than $24 million in total compensation last year. very nice. no problem. but what about starbucks? they've got ethically sourced coffee, tea, and cocoa. they're building more and more green stores to reduce their environmental footprint. thing about how that works. expand but reduce your footprint. and when it comes to pay, howard schultz says he would support a minimum wage increase. they're lobbying energetically against any such increase. look. no ones like business big or small more than me. i get it. soft gooey messages work on millennials than a lot of others, better than printing in bold ink that chipotle's, starbucks, and levis are capitalizing on. and this wonderful free

enterprise economy of ours, that to me is a sweet warmness that i wishmore businesses would shout out in their media messaging. but then i'm just a capitalist. we're coming right back. chinese hackers breaking through our national security firewalls and stealing untold millions of government secrets. cyber expert kevin band unlimited cash back. let that phrase sit with you for a second. unlimited. as in, no limits on your hard-earned cash back. as in no more dealing with those rotating categories. the quicksilver card from capital one. unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you purchase, every day. don't settle for anything less. i'll keep asking. what's in your wallet?

a new report finding american businesses increasingly concerned about cyber attacks and nearly 1,200 companies have reported their concerns in the country for the last year. more than 500 the previous year. those figures helped to explain perhaps why the obama administration indicted five chinese military officers for commercial cyber espionage on

sunday. joining me now the man exposed to threats, kevin mandia. he's the senior vice president and chief operating officer of the cyber security firm fire eye that brought his company back in january. great to have you here, kevin. >> thank you for having me. >> when i read those numbers and share them with the audience i don't feel like i'm being forthright. those numbers seem absurdly small. >> i think what you're getting are the people who are compromised and know they are and they also choose to share that with the government. right now a vast majority of the companies that are compromised don't even know it. there are most folks in what i call the unawareness phase. >> the issue of sieger security has been if not on the front pages at least on the business pages of this country for a decade. i personally have been reporting on red storm rising for 15 years. >> right. >> i can recall art cicles in a

the news magazines that suddenly disappeared. we used to hear people were being arrested when a company like target, you know, was being attacked mon attacked. months later we would here they were apprehended. we don't hear that anymore. >> no. >> why? >> if you're in western european countries, you get caught. but the fact is if you're in china or russia, you can act with impunity with no reser repercussions. >> we're watching ebay, one of the most sophisticated e-commerce space in the country. they can't defend themselves against this, and if they can't, what possible chance does a mid level company have? it depends what you're up

against. you can't expect small to medium businesses or even big businesses to defend themselves. it's just an asymmetrical theater of operations. >> and as you describe it as such a you are describing the 21st century economic warfare and you have responded. you say you support those indictments that are carrying out acts of aggression against this country and firms that are effectively citizens of this country. why in the world should the united states tolerate such behavior? what have we become if we're to become tolerant of that type of activity? >> i think what you're seeing is growing inreince. we've tried everything, meaning in 2011 the head of the intelligence committee mike rogers said we're seeing the most.

in 2009 my old company released a document 60 pages long that brought you wait up to the doorstep of a military unit with people in uniform in china hacking the private sector. this is probably the last card to play. >> or located most of them in the same building of the -- as the five china sneeze military officers who were charged. there is somethi i have to ask you squarely. they'ring about the chai nigh military as if the pla is going to extradite them. this is absurdity, is it not? don't we have a stronger response that's commensurate to the acts being sent across the country. >> this is another step in that. what you can hope will take place. no one should have the

expectation soldiers are going to be arrested in china right now. but what you can expect is another discussion to happen at some point in time they come up with rules of engage mbl that are more palatable. >> do you have any hopes whatsoever that those will be thoughtful discussions? >> i'm hopeful. i'm an optimist by nature, i guess. but at the end of the day, the military believes the discussions won't take place. if you want to have a global e-commerce, you i have to play the same sides and right now they're not doing it. >> all right. thank you. >> thank you. >> we hope you come back. red eye co-host andy and ter rod small on this celebrity

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receive free copy of my new book. it's available just about everybody. now your thoughts. brenda tweeted us to say about mr. obama and the vmt a. scandal, if this is how he shows he's angry and cares, how bad would not caring look. jane tweeted wrrks did the president's outrage over the irs talking of conservatives go? he now calls it a phony scandal. and christopher in new york e-mails us, will the president's investigation into the v.a. be like the irs investigation? thanks to everything. joining me now the a-team, co-host of "red eye" on the fox show andy levy and comedian

sherrod small. >> you know we're family here. >> you know we are. let's start out with the tea party. a lot of people, and i'm among them, the tea party is basically done, sherrod. what do you think? >> i mean i don't think all of the air is out of the balloon yet. i thank have to change some of their ways to stay popular and get the young people involved with it. i think they've got a lot of opinions people don't agree with. >> you keep looking at andy. >> because he's wearing a tea party t-shirt. >> what do you think? >> i don't know. it's a movement. i don't think it's an actual movement. i don't think they're going never. they're not committing mass suicide. >> do you think they should have made it tea movement instead of tea party? >> probably not. if they started drilling down, they would realize they don't agree on everything.

perhaps they had a loose group of core principles. so i think they're better off -- >> when you say it's not a party, you mean there's no deejay? >> no deejay, no band. >> oh, okay. >> looking for a band is mark cuban. he weighed in on our a first fell low there. >> giebt to give props to mark cuban for weighing in on it. he could have sat like scrooge mcduck. >> let's hear what he said. let's roll the video. >> we're all prejudice in one way or another. if i see black kid in a hoodie and it's late at night, i'm walk on the other side of the street and if i'm ott that sigh of the street and there's a guy with tattoos all over his face, white guy, bald head, tattoos

everywhere, i'm walking to the other side of the street. >> do you think mark cuban lives in fear? >> maybe he tells his driver to change roads when he sees a black guy in a hoodie. >> he apologized for that to be fair. he wasn't thinking about thein a bad analogy i don't think it matters. if i see a black person in a hoodie, that doesn't scare mue, but he easi's showing it. you can't say, don't say that. >> eric holder said that five years ago. >> he said bigotry and racism

was bad at the beginning but you have to be able to have conversations. we're adults. we're not robots. let's get a solution. >> there's a reflex now and it's supported by the media. this is mob activity going on right now. >> well, the media are bad people, you know that. >> luckily we're all here. >> we're good people. we're the difference. >> the ceo of levi says we should not wash our levi's. >> i'm halfway there. >> the ceo says 50% of the water on the levis is us washin it and 50% is you guys. i don't understand how he makes this much money saying that. >> you're not supposed to wear them.

i think most jean manufacturers would say don't wash them. >> send them to the dry cleaner. >> do you get a crease? >> i don't get my jeans creased. what am i? an uncle? >> gentlemen, i feel better know thoug handle the jean issue. and next week, chinos. we're going to find out exactly how -- thanks for being with us, andy. thank you. facebook is big brother. mashable technical director and why

facebook mocking its users to assist in updating privacy settings. there's a bit of a joke. also auring to listen to the background audio of its users, helpful, this leaving some critics to complain that facebook and big tech in general is abusing its user's provecy. joining us now, tech editor at marble.com, pete. good to have you with us. >> thank you. >> that blue dinosaur mocking us, what are we to do about it? >> yeah. it's funny. the dinosaur, it's basically for show. they add the feature as if to say, oh, we really do care about your privacy in a semiintrusive way, like, hey, do you really want to do this? that was well constructed. >> it was something like, hairks

you haven't changed your sett g settings in a while. you may want to share. >> these are the people who say they will decide privacy within the site. they like to be. it sort of has -- it's really just for show, i think. >> well, i hope it's that benign because this company doesn't have a benign history. this is an abusive and arrogant company when it comes to their customers' rights. you were about to say? >> at times. >> i didn't say it was a constant. it's just been repetitive over the history. and by now i think it pretty much is in their dna, don't you? >> i think it's definitely in the dna that they use

information to sell adds to people. that is in their dna. but they've gotten -- they've learned some mistakes from their past and i think they've gotten very good at shifting the focus how they're making money on individuals to companies. lately if you look at the stuff they've done. you get fewer of those marketing pages than you used to. >> bless them, bless them. >> which is a plus for users. but the cynical person -- that's just shifting the money making to the company. because they want them to buy their own adds. >> it's theirs by. they can do what they want. consumers don't have to put up with it. this is an absurdity.$n]b,dç

that's a choice that users have to leave their comatose state. >> they have other options. they can go and spend more time. >> another wonderful companys p? >> i know. that's why facebook is so popular. they make changes, they roll out features and people get very angry and say i'm leaving facebook and they do but they always come back. >> why isn't there more competition? >> yeah. >> why isn there a giant google? why is there a giant facebook? >> the network effect is there. >> a pluralistic. >> yes. it's used to describe when an internet service gets a critical mass and you basically have enough paem on it that the growth really started to skpajd. you can ask anybody that.

>> ollie guards tell me that all over the world. how's the glass working? >> it's very cool. they rolled out new apps including foursquare and trip it. it's great for just discovery, just checking in. gives yu a long list of stuff around you. >> are you addicted now? >> i'm a little addicted. i don't wear it all the time. i've been a critic of its design. i think it does look a little silly, but i like the promise of the it. >> your addiction looks good down. >> thank you very much. >> come back and talk about this wacky world. >> thank you. >> thank you, pete pachal. the dangerous life on the internet. the blot from the latest thriller from the best-selling

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♪caues ya know we'll make it through♪ extraterrestrial life, author preston talks about the kraken project. it begins to turn on its architects and does so profoundly. douglas joins us now. congratulations on the new book. a terrific thriller. a.i., how did you decide -- why did you decide to make it the centerpiece of what drives your thriller? >> well, nasa is planning a great mission to the mun of titan.

it's the only moon that has oceans, methane, not water. and they're planning to drop a boat into the water called the kraken sea and perform the first extraterrestrial sea voyage taken by humanity. being a sailor, i was thrilled to hear about this mission. i it was in the easterly stages. the problem is this raft is going to have to be artificially intelligent. it's a four-hour trip to life and they can't control the raft from mission control. the raft has to make its own decisions, has to be smart. >> and it also has to be well behaved as we learned from another writer arthur c. clark. there's an important set of values that has to be present in that. whether it be how.

>> at nasa, they talk about the haw part of it. they're terrified of putting artificial intelligence in the spacecraft. what happens if this $500 million spacecraft makes the wrong decision. >> your book is a page turner. it can be read in a very short time, and yet when you look at all the concepts you're dealing with, these are some of the most complex issues you're dealing with, spell binder to boot. how much technology of what you project into the book do you think is realistic at some point in the knew future? >> i think all of it is. i mean it's not science fiction. it's science, almost fact. for example, was at cia headquarters a couple of years ago thamd have a museum there of gadgets from the 1960s, all declassified.

it's not open to the public. they have a mechanical fish and a me can a cal fly designed to fly into the room to gather intelligence. i thought, wow, if they had in the '60s, what do they have today? >> nanotechnology along with a.i. can compress it into such miniaturization. is that possible you do think right now? >> it is. i found out -- i'm a novelist and people say things to me that they'd never say to a journalist. they're working on miniature drones. i call them drone sects. they can't be controlled with a human operator like our drones today. >> are we smart enough to create artificial intelligence that

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