♪ neil: all right. the baton passing, this time from mcdonald's to walmart. target, again, whether folks there are paid enough. shareholder meeting as their latest venue. this is part of a strategy. the people protesting, walmart workers. good reason to believe that many are just union guys who have been paid to protest. in fact, it is etched into law. rob, everybody. i'm neil cavuto. the work center watch adviser. it is interesting to me that we

do have a code in our law that allows those sympathetic to a cause to go ahead, rally for cause, not even be part of that caused, in this case workers of walmart and protests over alleged unfair paying practices. how many of those protesters outside this warm meeting the thank don't even work there? >> many of them. these protests are being organized by a nonprofit union from group called our walmart which is a wholly owned subsidiary. many of the people are actually workers who work for walmart employers who are unionized, but there to create this misconception. the protests a much smaller than the war. losing steam, not going anywhere . no movement behind the

reference. neil: go away, the costs for wages go away. >> they want to unionize america's largest retailer, because a worker conditions are paid, but unions are declining. they're lost much of there. they want to unionize walmart in order to give more dues paying workers into the system so that they can collect more money and replenish their pulled -- depleted bank account. it is out about the workers are shareholders are conditions. putting more money in the coffers. neil: back-and-forth about the real pay, poverty and wages. they're well north of the national average. but obviously a rock the outside

the shareholders meeting today. what they want is out the war is already been on average. there are good conditions of this company. benefit for the employees. very happy to work there. simply an effort that is being manufactured by unions quietly through these workers' centers which are union front groups that tried as per labor law and create the misconception that there is some kind of anti-war movement when there simply isn't neil: i want to bring in my friends and all stars. this is not the first. it is just the latest example. we will see more. unionized tomorrow. a lot of this would go away. >> i mean, the unions are grasping at straws. 11 percent of our workers are

unionized. they cannot sell new members on higher wages because they lose that battle often. they're trying to collect -- people don't even care. you can tell, less and less people are getting involved in this. neil: the walmart protesters who are getting in genuinely from walmart, you won't be punished. they say they will be. what did these protesters want? the better part of eight years. has not seen much if any discernible change in income. maybe you are a bad worker. you should be grateful that you are there and the company has not fired you. >> and my initial reaction upon reading the story is i will say anything. >> fancy hotel. but walmart, from what i

understand for the shareholders, it is a university. for the part of the union just to say we will go out there, cover this. it is the same old, you know, union questionable behavior. >> but when gile was bank of this the unions want something at of this. they are paying members, associated with walmart and not to go in protest, they want something. they get more money to influence politicians to change the labor laws, perhaps more members and they have. it is true that private sector unions members are going way down. public-sector union members are going way up. it's over 30 percent now. and there is some crossbreeding that goes on between public and private sectors. sometimes they pool resources as they did in wisconsin when there were going against what governor

scott walker was doing. neil: where does this and? obviously they're not going to give up. walmart is always fair game. imagine next call, next event, next meeting. on and on we go. >> keep going. do this not just a walmart but other fast for employers like mcdonald's, wendy's, and others. keep trying to use the same tactics to intimidate and harass people and their long effort to increase their union three unionizing employers, but people are waking a been beginning to see that this is not some kind of grass-roots effort. neil: i don't know of their waking up to that. i will ask you quickly, whether you are concerned that the amish , republicans, hike in the minimum wage to all the math all logic you just presented here, but you worry about that. when people, this issue, you think it would be a higher minimum wage.

two out of three said yes. when you get into the details, absolutely right. are you worried that the image that republicans in this case look our list? >> if you look at the fact people understand that companies like walmart to provide an plumb up virginities. as i mentioned, the average hourly worker makes $11. neil: their will not let you get to that. >> people need to speak up and obviously we need educate. neil: thank you very much. meanwhile, all you protesters call whether you are from walmart are not, you might be careful what you wish for because you could be staring at your next replacements. not another worker, robot. i kid you not. ♪ ♪

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now, to make it very serious, i don't think it is lost on anyone that if you travel the roads are go into a lot of fast food places you did your own soda, often times around food, often times cooking your own food, but that is the way of the world. the company that brought sprint, you know, they got a $2,000 robots that will do all of this. even babysit your kid. what i would like to see is if it could throttle your kids. the point is that this is the way the automated world goes. i wonder, lori, tracy, what happens. this just speeds up that process >> i thought we would be living like the jets is by now. the flight data will be flying through the sky and there would be some old lady like robot. >> so we are totally behind the eightball. >> 1999.

expected a lot more on that. neil: the reality is that every time their costs were under the gun. i would imagine hiking the minimum wage would be an example or and the impetus to that. >> i just think bottom line this is a bad idea. at the technology has been great for business in certain respects making it more cost-efficient, efficient, but when you cross that line and start making them have a motion then they start taking away the simple tasks that we do, it is basically just adding to our already lazy society. we are not going to be tying our shoes. you know, singularity, a never read about that.

>> had a very energetic -- >> one letter. it was too much of a cheaper paw of. watson who won jeopardy, the driver was car. i mean, what world, what purpose would human beings have? neil: i'm sure it -- actually, the automobile command. and everyone said it will never. >> i was talking to someone who did not want to have a real dog for their kid. the strangest and the world. the technological. and a kid -- eventually i have not yet seen. i still have not seen a time when emotional input can replace the human being. it just can't happen. >> they said the same thing about the microwave.

>> allow people still don't like the microwave. >> i will show you. >> hot that the role of. >> the chess master who is playing with this ibm, and he noticed that the machine made a move that was not programmed. he has such an incredible mind himself that he could tell that the move that the machine made was not something that was programmed into a. he thought of it himself for it thought of it itself. that scared him. that scares me a little bit. it is different. neil: why don't you just give him the rock. all right. when we come back, this scandal is not going away. people are fuming, and no one wants the top job. (vo) watching. waiting.

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neil: have you been following this? they cannot live with the level money anyone to take the job. they don't want to be targets themselves. we went out on the street to see how ticked off you are about this on going mass. >> i want to see the veterans get the support that they need and deserve. >> wake up america. these are heroes.

>> the way have not taken care of them. >> republicans, democrats, it does not matter. that should have been fixed. >> we did not account for the sheer number of veterans recalling the have. >> signing of blank cheek for their lives. we need to step up to the plate and take care of these individuals. neil: but we are not doing that. and then to make sure that we are, they just cannot find that person. a couple more bowling out. we will get to that a second. billionaire businessman and veteran on how important it is. and why so many don't want to be in this role. i suspect it has something to do with the fact that their power would be limited and their ability to fire would be limited >> well, i am a veteran. if the head of an organization was an active military he would be court-martialed for leaving his post will people were dying

left and right. if someone is a leader they would get there and say wait a minute to talk to the press. i cannot be limited. these guys a dying. they put their lives on the line for america. we spent a fortune getting it t work. they're coming back banged up. they're dying left and right. with all due respect to both parties, and you know it, an independent, i would take that job and leave the executive position i have right now. i would take that job if offered can do a damn good job as a leader. neil: the problem you would be constrained by, the position and what you cannot do. right now unless it changes -- and there is legislation to do so, you can't fire people. you cannot individually scrutinize their budgeting cut from one area to another. in other words, you want the best, sort of like a titleholder and not much more. >> that is not what it would be. if you were a leader you would find a way to overcome that. you could address congress.

i could go on the neil cavuto show and say, here's what is stopping me. write a letter. they are not putting it in the public space. you are putting it in the public space. the public is best off. these are children. neil: i understand, but what you think so many are turning this job down? they're looking at this and saying it is a suicide mission. they have been agreeing with what you just said. they feel that they would not be able to do what you say they should do unless they can come in there and get to do whatever the hell they want to shake hands and rattle cages. >> one statement, mr. president of the united states of america, if you truly believe this, pass an executive order, as you have on other things. tighten up with the ability is for the person leaving. let him be tighter on it. i can do this, this, and this.

mr. president, pass an executive order. these are not men and women. we are killing them. they came back for more. pass an executive order to allow me to do what i have to do that is very, very important and not have to go through congress. pass an executive order. let me get to work. i don't think congress would have a problem with that at all. like all the money we are spending abroad tte foreign aid. like all the money we're wasting in the united states. these people could go back to work, be alive and not be on welfare forever. spend more, get them fixed up, let them do what they risked their lives for and a dying for. be part of the american dream. a true leader. you want a president. tell the new guy you are interviewing. pass an executive order so that he could do this, this, and this without having to face constraints. neil: not a bad idea.

like you said, they did not waste a nanosecond when the moment came to look after us. i think the least we can do is to stand back. great having you. thank you. >> i love our country, sir. thank you for allowing me the agenda this week. neil: coming up, nancy pelosi put aside. wait until you hear this. we asked people a question, how much money do you think you'll need when you retire? then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. i was trying to, like, pull it a little further. [ woman ] got me to 70 years old. i'm going have to rethink this thing. it's hard to imagin how much we'll need for a retirement that could last 3years or mor

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>> have no business searching through the social media account of their employees and making employment decisions based upon what they see.

neil: all right. this sort of pushing the envelope and maybe the internet over privacy. this time literally starving himself going on a hunger strike to draw attention to the fact that we are going way, way beyond the pale when it comes to these issues and what the supreme court will ultimately be in on these issues. joining me right now, for five of these under strikes. >> the 45. neil: you don't strike me as a big guy. so it is not as if you have a lot in the meantime. wire you doing this? >> and i'm just kidding. what i'm doing is, i feel very strongly about the issue. employers firing their employees for what they put on social

media. now, there are some reasons why an employer should be allowed to fire someone. major threat, reveal a trade secret, actionable defamation, but unfortunately, from coast to coast employees are being fired for things like merely expressing their opinion or chronicling what happened in their daily life. neil: they are getting fired. some are doing a little more than that composting nude images of themselves, something that would be of questionable behavior. whether you work for a company or not, there should be bounds of propriety and good conduct. >> the matter of line drawing issued. when i bring to the debate that is different that really has not been brought up, the future.

that is the fact that as technology to any -- continues to increase, which it will, nothing stands in the way of innovation, and essentially everyone, your employer, neighbor, everything about you. iphone devices, being able to listen in. neil: we don't want massive intrusions. there has to be some sort of good conduct rules. no one is saying they and not free to a state of mind. there are basic standards we should hold your to. current. >> if you mean me personally, my naked pictures that added post or not. there were on the website with multiple sections to make sure that only consenting adults -- on not pushing my pictures on

anybody. a difference of opinion. i don't think an adult thing. is one of the most beautiful uncelebrated parts of life. neil: beautiful or not. a fair minded guy about it. sponges saying that should we have standards. >> i believe our standards should be what is lawful. neil: don't starve yourself. the cooking element. we will watch how this goes. thank you much. >> thank you for having me. neil: meantime, congressman nancy pelosi its and arful from a reporter, but not the kind you would think. but it is. >> what you support the nsa illegal and ubiquitous state collection? >> well, i, you know, i have

questions about the matter did a collection. >> you did vote for a bill to continue funding? >> of course. i don't think we should not fund the national security agency. neil: that was not chris wallace that was andrew demeter, all of, i think, 16 years old. andrew, how did this come about? >> well, i was in washington d.c. because i had entered into an annual documentary competition. one of my -- one of the documentary's that i have produced myself and the other top four winners were flown the d.c. events on the itinerary. neil: hearing the exchange the

way i did it sounded like what the hell of i got myself into. under the impression. >> yes. i think she thought it would be an easy thing to sort of just shoo away an easy photo opportunity probably. evidently i confronted her, as you can see in the video. hopefully it got her thinking a little bit. neil: one of the things that happens with these type of events, waiting to pounce, waiting for you to moment, waiting to appear on shows like mine. what do you think? >> honestly just filling the position complacent, tied to the government. corporate entities that sponsor them. they guy was just fulfilling my obligation as a citizen to go out, confront a politician, as the legitimate question.

i had a serious concern. neil: i guess, what did you make of her answer? this is really -- and i'm paraphrasing here, you know better than i, this is really bush's fault. that is a familiar thing i here. it might or might not be the case what did you think? >> i think it is absolutely hypocritical because bush ironically signed into law posed kaywun the patriot act which essentially did the same thing as the current nsa. for to be against what the bush administration did post 911, surveillance programs to all warrantless wiretapping, i think it's hypocritical for her now on the obama administration to say i support this. neil: how old you? >> sixteen. neil: should i introduce you to my daughter? that's a separate issue. thank you. very good having you.

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debate. they want to feed the same type of cynicism that democrats are showing a guy getting on this special commission. you want to look at least like you're doing your part. >> well, i think an expert. in office good on the environment. and i were an expert in the republican party on that i would go to the debate. the way the democrats are doing want to debatear. sergeant randall. here is an issue. the environment, it energizes the base and young people, editorial writers to environmentalists. for those folks this is a clause a religion. it is popular with the people, even if they got it down number 20. their area of concerns. neil: of the republicans were to say we're not coming. is 20 of the list of things. the democrats come back and say to them, we think this fixation

of yours is a distraction. what happens? >> it's a formal committee. it could very well be on national television and go on for days. i think the democrats defensively have to come. i think if i were republican of look at the environmental debate as an opportunity after republicans won a to get involved. when you have a debate, if you have nobody defending the position you don't have an audience. i can understand why the democrats like house republicans neil: using this says, you know it -- >> i agree withhyou wholeheartedly. we honestly believe they're failing to exercise the resulting ramifications to our health and safety, questions about the hca request as about

the teefor scandal. neil: in response. >> and if you like fish or meat. >> i think that they are trying to again draw attention to the environmentalist movement. they cannot give any ground on it. they don't want to talk about obamacare, they don't want to talk about benghazi. they're trying to get everybody into this issue, and i don't think it's going to work. >> i think they're missing. there are people. very eloquent in defending the position. a global warming alarmists have been wrong when you consider recent data. there're all kinds of hypocritical things like al gore's carbon footprints. you see even warren buffett coming out and say i don't see any size at all, dramatic climate change. i have to pay out, if there is, as an insurance executive. all kinds of evidence can be brought to the floor and lay

down in front of the public. these democrats in end up with egg on their face. >> they want these guys to focus on important things. enough already. >> we just had an epa change based on facts that might cost us hundreds of billions of dollars. >> i would say, look, running down there. mitch mcconnell in arkansas. let's take a look. you guys are going to kill coal in this country. where is the proof, for example, that the western drought is caused by global warming or by climate change or they you know how the stop it. you are calling for an enormous transfer of wealth, power, and freedom from individuals and companies to governments and international institutions. no, you prove to us you can solve this problem before we give you all that power. >> i think it is a theory that politicians are trying to control the national discourse.

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♪ neil: all right. and novel way to make sure the pipeline never, ever gets finished. if it does and when it does terrorists will try to load up. that is the argument. pretty much that. what do you think? >> a scare tactic. amazing billings people will go to to try to stop something. when you have all the money in the world you can do that. think the american people are smart enough to see right through this. neil: of fear tactic that we should fear. >> a way to give terrorists a new idea. neil: more pounds of commercial grade explosive. you too can have another terrorist on spot. plenty of pipeline.

>> they redacted the parts. that does not but my mind that these. they could use the pipeline to be sending it by train. already sending it by train. was there a train up in canada and exploded? it exploded and killed about 40 people. if you're looking for something bad to happen, it can happen just as easily by train. >> more at risk by relying on nations that hate our guts to get oil from them instead as opposed to using it at home. his argument here holds no way. neil: a winning issue. pushing in helping candid it's there are making that their signature issue. also sang before we create such a deathbed, mollen on all energy. obviously you are not. the administration is not. >> again, speaking at a both sides of his mouth. he was the let's try everything guy. now it's part of the once try everything. neil: the push to tighten the emissions rules. it really hit us with our

electricity bills. >> this attack on being domestically energy independent. that was the big goal. you brought up the epa will. i mean, it seems like it is sitting as from every corner. >> talking about political popularity, ask all the democrats to come from coal states all oil states. ask them if they go with this billionaire liberal or the republicans. neil: the administration has a goal before this next millennium is out to land a man on mars why 2030. the way -- at least i think to say for setting as a goal. >> absolutely. neil: the devil is in the details of administrations of all sorts over the years, 23 being committed to it and as being committed to partners and partners with us like china to do it.

>> i just think this space exploration industry, i think it supersedes all that. there is something about space and space travel and exploration that is just so exciting and romantic. neil: wait a minute. you were just bashing the computer. >> this is different. animation. that is specifically. >> my argument. neil: it's a brilliant argument. >> we should go getter. >> she had an attitude. >> things have changed since the space program. the government has become bigger, more bureaucratic. thirty or 40%. the way they do things now just doesn't work as it did back in the 60's. right now the government does not work. >> these astronauts on the international space station for all working.

>> what are they doing? >> in his pictures, and it's exciting. >> organic grass that only i'm a sweet. neil: volunteer. >> leave it up to elam musk. >> the motivation between that and science and engineers coming out of our country in the science program. little girls. the want to go to the moon. neil: i could send mine right now. thank you all very, very much. your read on some of these stories and your ideas don't make sense. after this.

>> what is the deal with entrusting gulf nation of qatar with keeping an eye on these released prisoners. that would be liken trusting me to the ponderosa buffet line,

just say your prime rib is not safe. and neil, amazing, how you can bring food into everything, on basic cable too. this food analogy makes me vomit because it is so true, not you guarding the buffet line, that would not surprise me, but fact that quart a gat qatar guardinge terrorists is knauss yates. >> -- news yates. >> all i know, they would not be able to get past new a buffett line, maybe you should be watching them, they would starv. >> another great food analogy, have you thought about writing a book about these. i have written two, each incorporating these. >> can i help police the counter with you, i will trade you my

brother. charles, i'm sure you would leave your post and head for the dessert buffet, charles, is that you? my buddy charles payne. i am a deserter? remember, payne, i made you, i can break you. if i did leave my post to grab a cream puff, do you really think that the prime rib is safe for others, dream on charles payne, dream on. >> i like your show, you make me laugh, hungry and learn at the same time. but for serious, this from georgia, you said that white house didn't do its due diligence on this deal, they did, they don't care. that would scare me more. at least ignorance could be used as a defense. not here, sam, it is common for nations to exchange and release

prisoners 1 ofs once hostiletie released, looka up jackass. they have not ceaseed look around jackass. amanda e-mails, what had you have done? not have president try to free this soldier? no just not swap him for 5 guys that are still very much intent on killing our soldiers. >> hey, cavuto. the '80s called -- the families' their sons back. >> i can't u one at white house played this whole deal out, they had to know freeing worst of worst at gitmo would not go down so well, so why do it? maybe they did not care. i thought your corporate deal analogy was -- brilliant, to me

this is all conno pro, i have look add the this a thousand different ways, no pros here, none. and retiring staff sergeant, when president of united states says absolutely these terrorists could be a threat, forget about the turncoat he just freed, i worry about the commander in chief who just freed them, and exposed all americans to danger. where is the board to give him his walking paper? >> might have been a dark are strategy, that president's real goal to shut down gitmo, now by releasing baddest of the bad he can. that is mortar fiing. -- you are right, but i see the mixed up method to his madness. other quick questions from, tommy it denver, what would you do, if you could not read a

prompter any more for living? >> i would do it a for fun at home. >> do you hate all government workers? >> no just these who don't give a damn. >> when makes you one to judge whether any deal is a good deal. >> i am a financial god, annie, that qualifies he. >> give me one reason why i should watch your shallow, self absorbed newscast over one on cnbc. >> mine is interesting but leave now, i don't want yo you watchi. >> name me one other anchor that you work with, at fox, or fox business who do you not like. no, i won't do that. >> and i googleed you the other day was i was stunned by your life story, and all these people saying nice things about you, why don't you tell them to write in to replace the integrates who rip you a new one every day. you just did, ken, thank you.

>> cavuto, did you a guy who has multiple sclerosis really address a gathering of m.s. patients and tell them to suck it up and quit whineing? don't you technology is harsh? -- don't you think it is harsh? i did, i just wanted to remind them, they should not alike victims or blame others for being more sympathetic to their ills, we all carry our crosses in their life, who are we to say ours is any heavier, you left out the part where i got a standing oing overation -- ovatn after i finished that speech, then they started throwing things at me, and thin are you and elizabet liz mcdonald relatr

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