♪ neil: i have some good news and bad news on this situation. the president coming up with a plan to help college graduates make good on paying back their loans. now the bad news. if you're in the upper income group, you're going to be paying for it. you're paying for a lot already, aren't you? i am neil cavuto. is it me or is it every time we have a big program planned, the cost of it is dumped on the rich. helping to bailout a lot of students. the fact of the matter is the rich will pay for it to the tune

of 50 plus billion dollars over 10 years, more than making up for the cost of the whole thing. the details follow what has been a disturbing pattern and one that i would take up with americans for tax reform president. 39.6% is the top federal right, but we know for a fact we have added a full percentage point a medicare surtax tat would make the investment tax on ending. we are in the mid 40s to upper 40s, and i haven't even addressed state and city taxes. how high is this going? >> the issue here besides all of attacthe taxes is who these higr income earners are being right now the president is talking about tryingng to ease the burdn on students who are going to

college, coming out of college having a hard time writing work, they cannot find work because they keep taxing employers out of the system. they cannot provide employment for any of these kids coming out of college. neil: we made up all of the job loss during the recession. look at the market racing to new highs and the argument falls on deaf ears. what do you say? >> if you believe the employment situation has improved to the point you don't have to worry about it anymore, i have a bridge to sell you. neil: i have enough to deal with these surtax is, don't throw a bridge at it. >> look at the unemployment rate for you right now. it is double that for the national average. kids being sold a bill of goods being sold a education.

neil: this makes it more difficult the very folks who can hire and help them out will be less inclined to do so because the taxes are going up. they were the point with the fox all-stars. so, rick, you were grounding during that period why? >> i'm trying to determine how it will cost rich people more. neil: you will be taxed for it. you are going to pay more taxes to see if this works. >> i don't know if that is going to be true. the federal government making a $50 billion per year profit on student loans. is that really necessary? neil: is it really necessary to put this experiment, to turn it around on the backs of the rich? >> it is another bad bet. there's no guarantee they will graduate, they will be able to find a job.

talking about the jobs created, but a low income of variety of jobs. if you have these excess student loans, how will you pay for it. neil: just see what is the study hike in taxes on the rich to pay for anything and everything whether it calls for supporting and paying the health care law or all the other related taxes in the interim. it is a lie to say it will end right now around 45%. i think higher and higher she goes. >> i think it is important to address the fact president obama is doing nothing here to create jobs or lower cost. he is putting it hard-working americans now. the very people who are job creators.

you have to see is this really fearfully hard-working americans to have to be supporting college students. is this the way to resolve it? neil: the message it sends here whether this works or not, everyone is open to being treated to dinner. if i am with rick, his such a rich guy. i will order two appetizers. i will eat his meal, but he is paying, so i don't think about what i am paying for. the expectation somebody else would foot the bill, i don't doubt this kind of thing certainly polls well and is received well by those communities that benefit in this case on their loans. i always see the same and again here. >> at the end of the day you have to pay the piper. if you are cap in student loans,

there is all that money owed for colleges and other institutions, so what they are seeing is after 10% of a debtor's income, it is free money so why wouldn't they continue to have their fees rise, why wouldn't they continue to have their tuitions go up because at the end of the day the taxpayers will have to pick up the bill. that is what we see with the cost of higher education. what the president and his allies in congress want to do is inoculate the forces working on it in the free market and allow it to continue to operate as a monopoly. neil: you're going to have these costs continuing to go up, and what i have discovered is they go up, it is rare they go down. others will stay as well. >> you see the new taxes coming out, maybe this is for a short term, they always turn out to be permanent because the money is distributed elsewhere.

neil: paying more to support a program. >> lower percentages of interest on people who need the help. neil: and you paying for that. >> it will come back to me. neil: this is starting with you when you were running marvel. you heard the latest musings of superman, he sounds like unger. more after this. ♪ wondering what that is? that, my friends, is everything. and with the quicksilver card from capital o, you earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you purchase. not just "everything at the hardware store."

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neil: it was only a few years ago the comic came out your superman was bemoaning the way they were being selfish, go to the united nations and not having to be an american, everybody says what happens. almost everything since in comic books show superman and a lot of other comic book heroes become

liberal weenies. when you have two icons, say what happened to us, the characters we draw and the images we are about our great capitalism at america, the red, white, and blue and a long come people like unger who say no, those days are over. superheroes share their it into with the world. i hope you're proud of yourself. >> let's get this straight. he did not give up his american citizenship because he disliked america. neil: he was a weenie. >> he went to iran and he stood between the protesters and the government because the government was going to hurt them. he was protecting the united states.

let's go back to what we always go bac to. when it comes to entertainment, we care about one thing. what is hollywood's ideology? neil: i am telling you, the more hollywood keeps pushing this revised version of superheroes, it came from another planet division our planet, act like it. what about you? >> i care. are you saying i used to play with barbies and not read comics comics? we are living in a world where pop culture and everything is leaning blue and liberal.

neil: it is not unusual to hear this kind of talk, but with superheroes, really? these guys are veteran artists who don't like the pattern they are seeing developing a. always cynical. >> the pattern of american dominance. almost like a assroots campaign for somebody to be nice, everybody avera. that acceptance is what it is, we went through decades. only six, seven decades ago normandy. there was patriotism taken. neil: those days they were fighting. today he is joining us.

>> how do you explain cap in america, the highest growing grg movie last year? >> i went as miss captain america for halloween last year, but at the same time -- neil: really? >> yes. neil: bottom line, you don't think anything is trending a little late? you are minimizing thesewo comic book icons as being desperate for work.

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neil: the new mayor bill de blasio to blame for that and more liberal views to blame for that.

pricey real estate is still early, the trend of many who follow the big apple closely is not the city's friend. former new york stock exchange, you entertained running for mayor, decided not to. you have seen what has happened since. do you agree with that decision? >> o'neill, you cannot look back. neil: i live my life looking back. >> it would have been interesting race with two italians, one tall, one very short. i loved my chances because they still have all of those towels. neil: i have mentioned some of the issues becoming a concern, crime taking up, but enough for lots of folks to take notice and say we have a problem.

>> i have great confidence even though i was not a supporter of the mayor, he chose a really tough position for police commissioner. he fought crime in boston, new york city is a former police commissioner, he took over a tough department. bill bratton will do a tremendous job. neil: what about the draw the city has done financially. raising taxes, when you talk about constantly zeroing in on success in this city, and when you make your cause, things as asinine as others, i mean really. >> has a lot of people really concerned, neil. this mayor whether consciously or subconsciously will turn his back to the 1970s and to a period we were on the brink of financial armageddon. the good news is there is only

one new york. the real estate market is still very strong, albeit it has calmed a bit on the high end because of those russian buyers have been told to cool it. neil: do you think this city can withstand the bumps it is getting? >> there are two critical conditions a new mayor appoints. a police commissioner and bill bratton. fire commissioner and the chief. neil: people in kansas don't understand what you are saying. people understand new york as being a target and financial institutions in the city being a target and they start to wonder whether the is justification for that and whether that crowd leads this city. >> i think the business community and certainly the leadership i talked to take part

in the two key positions we talked about a bit. they are first class. neil: the guy at the head of the big board, 30 young people want nothing to do with the market, don't trust the market. a quarter of older americans don't trust the market with the run-up we have yl]y'. there is a growing cynicism about the lifeblood of this city, does that worry you? >> 1974 i was one year into employment at the second exchange, dow jones was 560, a lot of my contemporaries from the vietnam era were saying i will never invest in the stock market. 560.

>> if you believe in america like we both do, if you believe optimism prevails over cynicism. neil: so this market can go on without over a third of the people? >> you will have corrections, corrections five to 10%, the bear market 20%. i think we have a much, much better -- neil: where do you stand with the whole horse and buggy issue? >> terrible mistake. people who visit this city from all over the world, they come and they go to that park and they love that horse and buggy ride, we should never, ever eliminate them.

neil: have you ever taken them? >> that is upscale stuff. neil: that is a very good answer. former chairman and ceo of the new york stock exchange. would have, should have, could have. meanwhile, california krom owner doing a bit about face. a belated sore loser or a guy trying to cut the horse you know what. >> it's all or nothing. this is not fair to these horses, this is a coward's way out. (mother vo) when i was pregnant...

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it's all or nothing because this is not fair tothese sources that if they are running their guts out for these people. neil: all right. california kronor has since come out and apologized. we just now got a comment. the course himselfsaid. [inaudible] [laughter] neil: horrible. anyway,it was not the time or place to be complaining. i can understand and honor doing that. what was his original wind that the ida that you had to have all the horses in the prior to horses but that math on the if you would have qualified and no one was in the race. >> that is not the way it's done if that was the case that's like saying that because tiger woods is injured right now and this is the first to legs of the grand slam is not allowable in the british open and pga. as moronic idiotic.

>> but you know, the ne of this company. you know the name of this company that he owns, he and his partner. well, save on fox business, dumb as partners. the fact that he acted like one, we have to give him a break. neil: to be honest, everything looks good for him. in the triple crown first time since 1978. you know, he is frustrated and angry. you have seen that before. i have seen boxer's try to beat the crap out of you when you're asking tough questions in a moment. it is human nature. why should we -- >> well, he had a little too much celebration probably before the race, disappointed, an emotional moment. i understand what he is saying. a decent point, but the wrong time to be making it. raining on his own parade. everyoneoved the wars, the story. the other was beaten fair and square. he followed the rules.

you have to take your medicine. we all look back at people who have not done the right thing. the 91 pistons and the bad boys and walked off the court against michael jordan when. berating the empire, did not shake hand. they tend to forget that she has won some many grand slams and point to that moment. when you are a champion you have to bhave and act like one. let's give this guy a break. he apologized. everyone loves this story. now he can go back to where it came from and trying get another horse. neil: we do remember people in the heat of the moment or controversy wrote more than we remember their winning moment and all of the races and success that this honor was having leading up to this event. what do we remember more, though?

>> i think this is what fans tend to remember, the reaction after, which is sad because there was some much excitement around california crown. a lot of people all over facebook and twitter. you saw it as a sign of inspiration for people who are excited about the races. and then when you see this, it is disheartening. as a football fan, i am a huge patriot fan being from new england and it is disheartening every year. we lose the super bowl or the playoff game. , he watched. the. neil: he is reacting to the wrong thing. this is not looking good. he might have put on a few. i don't know if that was the se. but does this guy get over this and move on? >> he does not. you try to get. this board is a dying sport. neil: not into this.

>> because there is no excitement. here is the opportunity, and you have an honor that is actually going this say something that could be potentially harmful. it will give the idea that you will have problems down the line i'm sur you can agree with this . >> the timing may not have been great. i disagree. not theirst time pete rose. i disagree. the analogy is not tire was going for the grand slam but the fed next up at the end of the year and everyone has the play every weekend. number two, it is not fair. when you are going for t triple crown you should have to be in every race. neil: but they don't. >> have to make it equal. >> it is equal. neil: what do you think of that? >> i thought by that definition they would only have a few horses racing. >> i think he ought to stick to

politics and business and let us handle the sports. >> i mean, well, that is okay. neil: did he know it ahead of time? did he know that there would have been only a few horses that would have run in the prior two races? >> of course. that is the way that it has been all the time. they ganged up on the source. the whole field going against him and did anything they could

to prevenhim from winning. that is the way that this board is. it is a sportf kings. if you don't like the rules then don't participate. the rules should be changed and augmented, then it should be looked at. neil: you are winding. >> wire we could to change and make easier. neil: as you just said, people -- >> it does not make it easier. >> it is not fair for somebody to run two races in three weeks and take on -- >> have an asterisk. neil: you are getting to be a pain in the *. don't even get me started. no idea what you are talking about. wanted thank you for sharing. thank you, my friend. yet another kick in the asteroid i keep warning, when is the world going to listen? ♪

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♪ neil: well, i hope you had a nice weekend. they are calling it the beast. it was an asteroid the size of a football field, about 700,000 miles away, three times roughly the distance from here to the moon, but it was going at 31,000 miles-an-hour, which is pretty fast. at is delighted with the earth and the game over. this keeps happening. the only discovered this thing a couple of months ago. are you people listening to me? former nasa astronaut who is not at all shocked. in fact, he is raising money for an asteroid finding satellite.

number of close calls, but this one surprised me because we discovered it only recently. >> it was just found a few weeks ago by nasa. had it -- it was a good thing it had not it because it would have an energy of a couple of thousand megatons but, which is basically the world's nuclear stockpile. it shows hat we really do need to do a better job of behalf of finding these days earlier. neil: if we could go out there and search around, but i always think we have been very lucky dodging the step of the events. >> well, we are lucky because that one did not it. true, there are rare, but all it takes one to really ruin your day passed. that is why we really think that we should just go into it. there are two ways of looking at this. well, isn't it a shame and no one else is doing in order to yourself. that is the path we have chosen.

neil: what would this to the we don't do now? some of the technology that nasa used to discover this, it's like a highly-sophisticated mapping technology that can track anything within a stone's throw of our planet. >> and that is basically what the sense of our mission will be. more effective, purpose bill to do this. it will find asteroid's not weeks before the it europe but decades. hundreds of millions of miles before they hit the earth we will have morning which means deflecting them is relatively easy in the space technology sort of way. neil: what do you think of this? how. >> very hard to voice an opinion when you have more of the greatest experts there is. love this project. go get them. i love your set led the a.

>> we are aware of 95 percent of the really large ones. it is the medium and small ones that our problem. neil: this is heading right tortoise. >> i guess it is good to no, but what can we do about it? >> there will say it is too expensive. >> of course. why would we pay for such a thing. put neon radioed that die. neil: what do you make of this? a private initiative. there would have to work in concert with the government. is that even doable these days? >> public-private partnerships. neil: you're right about that. >> i agree, but i do defer to the specialist on this one. i obviously do noot know how it affects us, but that sounds like

a good idea. my concern would be the federal government overreach because they always tend to follow up things that get involved and costs, especially when it comes to a taxpayer dollars. neil: we did okay with nafta. doing everything right. >> outdoor would probably say that this is conservatives fault that these asteroids are coming close to hitting the heiress. neil: maybe we can have him go up. >> she had a fine the politics. neil: by the way, this is the asteroid that hit russia a year ago. so you would have to be scared. >> to roughly the cost of building a large freeway overpass. and so it turns out that these people, concerned people who really are people want to make a difference in the future, enough of them come together and say we want to find will performing

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you can get a tax foxbusininess.com uber. neil: not in san francisco. outlawed. this is the same as what the hotel industry is trying to do. >> we talk about technology improving our lives. this is an excellent example. how difficult is it during rush hour here in new york city to hail a cab? if some of. neil: it is pretty recognizable. >> on the other side of it, they should offer that. i think that will be the next step. now you'll really get the tax a cabdriver. neil: all could benefit from this. and yet all are not. i would say, this is the way that the world is going. i am happy to march in. i just might go in front of it and be part of it. >> i personally agree. i never thought i would say that .

the point here is that taxicabs are not meeting the demand. i moved from new hampshire to the d.c. area. i absolely love uber. i knew that we are getting it in manchester. that is exciting. neil: hodoes it work in washington? >> ibook it on my phone. i can see the wait time. i can but my business card in there. i can put my actual credit card information in there. neil: does is show up when it says it will. >> it is always there. you see the driver, license plate number, their rating. it is effective, efficient. they are there, on time, call you if they cannot find you. i used last friday night. i love it. in virginia there were just dealing with the whole thing with the federal government because they're trying to shut down. they have complied. so uber sent an e-mail up to its consumer saying that this was going on but they would still be operating in would be fighting

this. i say go, uber. they're providing a service that taxicabs are not able to. neil: we will see. to make it very difficult. ready for another shouted? this is going to be big. 3d movies. everything was going to be, a 3d printers. has not quite pan out. amazon is trying again. the phone that will have 3d features and that breast. this time you are bullish. >> a category killer. you need something that will separate you. granted, amazon is a category killer company. i love this approach. the only thing that i can see, do i need to wear fancy glasses. >> a couple of them had thisa few years ago. it did not go anywhere. >> three d has not totally slipped. it has worked out for printers. neil: if you have a choice. >> i will go to a 3d movie. where it does not go over is

television sets. that might be the comparison. i will point out, it is amazon. everyone was saying bad things about thing when they came out with their book reading thing. i forget what it was called. to get worked up pretty darn welll don't bet against them. [laughter] >> if they want to get in the game, sure. i think they are little late. i am not sure how profitable it will be. i think apple has been dominating. so i don't know. ithink it will be interesting to see what ends up happening with this. i do like 3d movies, but they tend to make me a little motion sick. neil: did anyone see gravity in 3-d? i can usually take anything. >> that was bad. [laughter] >> a good movie, the. neil: i hear you. >> get sisick when she watches a 3d cartoon.

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neil: what is the deal women iowa republican candidate talks about castration, he says it was to make a point. her experience apparently registered with voters but did not register with my city slicker panelist who found the whole thing, shall we say, to peaceful. kerry says please tell them that they need to get out of the city once in a while. it castrating honks helps them gain weight faster and it is a business after all.

and so wonder if milk is produced in a factory just lik paint. and so thn you have to tell me of this comefrom a cow. get real. anyway, bulls and castration equals big macs. [laughter] all bull calves and hobbes are castrated. females are not castrated. i hope i do not need to explain that. and business as usual in the farm country. jennifer morgenthau says grow up. you are a stupid city boy in with an attitude. by the way, show me once, so th are. she did win.

and ters all across the midwest are look at him laughing at you in your family, caboodle. it is an ancient metod used for racing meet. and terry says, hobbes so aggressive that they have to be castrated to make me better. and the same thing is done to bulls. all is not well in the animal kingdom come i am quickly surmising it. and he says you stupid city slicker is, why don't you find out why they castrate hogs before you judge. and the folks in iowa routinely understand it and that is where the lady was running for office. so stephen louisiana, it is no more somatic than neutering your dog what your cat.

so you haven't even gotten into a habit of it. sue in miami, animals are neutered to control freedom. your cattle sounds like the kind of folks who think that the me that they by jump into the meat section all by themselves. you know, i did wonder how that happened. ann nancy of aol says if you east coasters that think the food on your table comes from magic. and new yorkers think that they leave bacon comes from the grocery store. and you new yorkers don't have a clue about the real world, some say. male animals are castrated when they are little. each farmer does it differently. it is painless antianimal doesn't even know it.

so moving on, you would not want to eat the meat of an animal that was not castrated, pig, cow, lamb, sometimes i wish it was in my power to have the hard-working folks band together with the fruits of our hard labor for which we get little respect and reward. well, i apologize if we left you offended. and hannah says, how how about i castrate unc what you think. well, hey, hannah, how bout no. it is time that we take this and castrate a whole bunch of you. then i could guarantee that you would be better behaved and taste better as wel. well, barbara, i will take your word for that. no need to proceed. and then they are spouting off on other topics. and they also have no clue.

but younow, you don't know the half of it. the whole castration thing just opened it up. a lot of problems. we are cutting to the chase right there. that is it and we will see you tomorrow. kennedy: and extreme political climate, anytime there is an event with permeating tentacles, two sides rush away and try to figure out how to bury the other instead of focusing on the most important aspects that deserves healthy debate. i'm talking points are generated and the story takes a siening turn. the shooting and las vegas. a marriage with benefits. and 80 cat running around in camouflage, talking about on the youtube video of a want to shoot the police.