in the sister songwriter we would all be a very rich man today. >> landmark pay for play case? but the plaintiffs named in the case? bin and we will be joined by the plaintiff with the top analyst for fox sports for basketball and football in college sports. >> we have the latest on the gm recall scandal and what the cbo says that means it will be more recalls and possibly more deaths reported. trouble in the housing market that may not go away for degeneration. we will tell you what that is about how that affects all of us when the scandal

of a chinese company hired to fix an iconic american bridge now taxpayers are on the hook to pay for the whole mess. we go west to california. did you drive on american roads you could be affected by the gm recall. ceo mary barra told the shareholders but first outside of a meeting in detroit parents of the victims wanted to make sure their children were not forgotten. >> denote the shareholders put them with the pressure. >> i hate being outside this building but we have to be the voice of our children. cheryl: she had a daughter that died behind the wheel of the chevrolet kobolds that her mother thought was safe and that is a familiar story we have the attorney representing the families.

what did you think of what mary barra said and in particular the comments there be more recalls in deaths reported? >>. >> i felt it was scripted. her duty is to put a good face on a tragic story. no doubt in my mind and i have been telling gm's this for months that they have undercounted the amount of debt as a result of this defect. currently have 70 families who lost loved ones and i am convinced many many more will come forward. cheryl: i want to explain to the viewers what you talk about. upwards of 72 but not 13 because gm is only counting those people sitting in the

frenzy. and it this is why there is say a wide array? and they should be financially irresponsible? >> exactly. there is to problems. gm only counts the death of the air bag fails to deploy and only if they enjoyed the protection of the air bag but the defect is not the air bag that is a consequence of the defect. cheryl: the ignition switch. >> exactly. every single person in the car dies as a result of the defect is not the air bag feeling to deploy. but the second play is there is so many victims out there

by a of a recall carr the cobol was hit but at that point that changes the situation. cheryl: she does expect more firing she did fire 15 including sun executives. very tough but what about the compensation fund? are you convinced that will be fair enough? to these families that have lost children? >> no. absolutely not. i am skeptical. ken feinberg is honorable but he gets marching orders from gm. each single victim that goes to trial with us ability to

survive and rightly so because of their conduct it is difficult to place of value on a child but juries have been doing it for decades to place a high value on every single one of these individual victims because they are so compelling and such a waste of life. >> we should say there is the big move to consolidate the lawsuits. and possibly a different legal strategy. stay with me i want to get some more detail on what happens when mary barra faced shareholders today. >> what is the mood like on the ground?

also talking about what you saw today. with the victim's family is trying to get voices heard? >> just like those behind me and the bishops across the country business is good. the stock is doing okay not terrible but at the same time not us crazy protester chance i hate to even call them protesters they had signs asking that no one forget what happened with their children. to take the compensation and

they go offer and ken feinberg will determine what their lives are worth and they will take whatever he says as lot into that. >> once mr. feinberg has completed protocol we can assess that we won't know until they actual compensation program has been run but at that point we will make an estimate. >> it is quite possible and likely to say that those people that bob is talking about in the back seat of the car whose stepdaughter was in the back does not get counted because she denied having an air bag.

and he'll have the ability do declare that. but then the addition behind me you could go by a chevrolet cobol now there is a 20081 for sale selling at $80,000 people will the cars say the value was destroyed as a result so we should be compensated as well so that is another part may be a death by a thousand cuts. >> but then day said again when it comes to the victims' it seems to me wonder if this is helpful to the case is that she said that today that we do expect to report more deaths than

you are being heard. is that how you took these comments today from mary barra at? >> i am not optimistic about her representation that can feinberg will offer just compensation. there is no other way to talk about a. my clients of the rights to have their story heard by a jury. to whoever it may have been to the jury gets to decide the fair value if i have a discussion with mr. feinberg i would say listen, you need to understand if we are going to settle this case or pay money it has to be just as if we're saddling at the courthouse. it is not like 9/11 with a terrorist act in the fund created but gm will probably

be found criminally culpable for the deaths and injuries to one of the most profitable companies on the planet. these injury and death cases are truly their achilles' heel. sales may be good right now been a single verdict with the punitive damage may cause the company financial pain. cheryl: i will bring in a different voice margaret, her daughter m. love was killed in the crash of the gm vehicle. hal are you feeling out everything you have heard today from general motors and mary barra? will the company to right buy you and do they understand you lost a child? >> they don't understand the loss of a child and other children are still out there

driving these cars it could impact other loved ones especially when it was senseless my aid daughter lost one of her best friends. she got a scholarship for softball for college and a weakened 1/2. i will never quit hurting. has been eight years. my husband is like a knife in his heart. every day we live with it. cheryl: do you mind telling us what happened into the night that she died? >> she went to use the cheap but the car was broke so her and another boy drove and there were being followed and we just know she went

off into the canal. the boy died instantly. she drowned trying to do get him now. half of the front end of the car was torn off why didn't the air bag go off? and then they would not have died. so we never knew until my grandson saw on the news one month ago and he called to say that explains everything. he is 22 reid -- now. he would have been 26. cheryl: i know that bob is representing you but a quick question about this case case, this is exactly what you said unfortunately emma

drowned trying to save her friend but it does sound like the air bag ignition switch cause and effect? >> absolutely correct. our investigation has confirmed to that this was an event where the air bag should have deployed. there was no skid marks s.a. had the approach to the ravine and unfortunately the drowning is probably the worst fear of how to die. this young girl has a hugely important future ahead of her and left a beautiful family behind. it is difficult sometimes to even listen to the stories to understand at the same time that it was needless that it did not have to occur. i have seen so many of these similar types of accidents

to hear the pain in the parents' voices and it never goes away. that is what mr. feinberg and it mary barra have to keep in mind. these are real people the loss is a direct result of gm and they have rights to a trial by jury if the conversation is not appropriate to. cheryl: jeff flock wanted to add something. >> but i don't want to speak for the company but they bush argues some of these cases some of the drivers were speeding, not wearing seat belts or over the legal limit with alcohol and i am guessing that will have day mitigating impact. but my suspicion is it would >> every single person deserves a right to survive. in a collision.

doesn't matter if you have alcohol in your system if it could have saved you so you can live and to have family and children. the penalty is not death it is not to be killed because you hit the dash board way in your air bag does not apply. even though there may be some specific cases where individuals had carelessness they had a right to expect the car they were driving would function properly and would save their lives everybody deserves another day or another chance. cheryl: we are out of time. especially to margaret. >> there was no or alcohol involved in her case

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compared to shoddy. and shipping and delays him us know this story very well. they pick the company and the officials from caltrans covered up the bad work why would they do such a thing? >> this is an amazing story. you cannot make this up. a chinese company was no experience building bridges then showing hundreds of millions with incentive payments to get them to speed up the the work is not a good it is a prime example of big government projects. a big government bureaucracy but what is interesting the lowest bid comes to the chinese company called of

building is done at the shanghai factory but that turns out to be shoddy but caltrans covers set up but then absorbs the financial cost so you end up paying for the of $400 million mistake on the bridge? and the taxpayer or the toll road? >> it will be all of the above the taxpayers those who travel the bridge and ultimately the concern is a safety concern with serious potential damage done during construction and several structural engineers have said this could be a serious problem for safety. ultimately be want to pay more for quality but that is unacceptable. cheryl: one of the engineers that came forward was reassigned. now the state senate and the of congressman from

sacramento said. they added $100 million to the cost of the program. basically nobody cared about money it was obvious they did not care about the toll payers' bad performance was rewarded over and over where are the now with all of this? and frankly to people so that they feel safe driving across the bay bridge today? >> there has been some investigative reports but the reality is unfortunately we are in a situation where people in california are complacent. i hate to say it but it is where nothing happens people may go on with their lives but unfortunately a the price paid will never be

paid unless more light is shed on this particular issue it is shocking how much money went into the s. cheryl: it is a fascinating story i lived there seven years and i cannot believe this kind of mishap occurred. but you get what you pay for. fate you for joining me tonight. the us for a style of the century one of the plaintiffs suing the n.c.a.a. is here to present his case and one is going up against of white house for housing. over the housing initiative. free will be right back. can you start tomorrow?

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that ended that utopian vision. cheryl: i want to explain what this does. the rule forces every municipality to have a survey of the neighborhoods by race and ethnicity in syncom if not what they like state denied a grant money, millions of dollars. could you see this happening in arizona? >> and already have been sid york and failed miserably one had to return $12 million they cannot tell what they were looking at they needed the housing grant but could not comply with what they could facilitate. cheryl: to talk about westchester county they rejected the grants because they did not want the government to say be give you the money but we will tell you how to sell your city.

but at the end of the day is this about race or ethnicity or wage distribution? >> it is about control. that the federal government knows better than we do with the application of the grant that is what it is. this is happening in arizona everything he wants to do is pick a fight with arizona isn't it interesting that they are fighting back? cheryl: discrimination in housing has been illegal since the '60s so the fact it comes up now that the fight has been characterized is the issue of race? but when you read that amendment why did you get support in that house a bit

was a legal since the '60s? >> people realize it is a solution looking for a problem and went right to the backdoor attempt through community grants. cheryl: are you concerned this will have a backlash that you will be attacked as being racist? >> they can bring it on but if i didn't i would be a racist looking at the application not the basis of racism so this is about the quality of the lot to make sure they have control over what they want to build. >> thank you very much for joining us tonight this shows where hud is doing for this country. thank you very much.

cheryl: still to come the would-be first-time home buyers sitting on the sidelines of course with the overall economy. and coming up next the n.c.a.a. trial is under way. one place to shows why they paid the student athletes. ♪ ♪ ♪

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cheryl: we have breaking news to tell you about right now turns out the city of miami and miami dade county the city rejected the plan for the downtown waterfront stadium.

issuing a statement saying that city officials determine the proposed site was inappropriate location. they wanted to build next to the american airlines arena this city does not want to go with that but rejects once again the plan to build a stadium other sites are under consideration talks will continue but for now they're off between david beck them to bring soccer to the city of miami. date number two of a high-profile legal case to hit college sports over student athlete pay that continues today with testimony from plaintiffs from an economist the heated debate we cover all aid -- singles and a plaintiff in the suit makes history in 1966 while playing for a

texas western the irst to start five african-americans in the championship game that they want shortly after he was on the cover of "sports illustrated." what is your reaction to the testimony that you heard today that economists say these kids deserved compensation? >> he hit the nail on the head. i want to make sure that people understand when i say we're not looking for hundreds of thousands of dollars but there should be some fair compensation for them. i am not sure what that is i am not the economist or a business person but they need to be compensated for the fact they bring a lot of revenue to those schools.

cheryl: the case is still going they want to do a change of rules but what did you think from a legal perspective? >> we have testimony about how good is this is for the athletes or how much they need it then he start to talk about how much do they make? what is right or wrong? it is simple but he would make in the free market and that is not what we have right now. they foresee athletes to sign away the publicity so they cannot get anything if they were not forced to do that they would get some amount of money determined by the free market that is what they are entitled to the we don't know what that number is i don't think anybody would doubt the economist testimony if the

athletes are not prevented they've put make money because people would pay them to have their images of in videogames, etc. cheryl: talking about it economist he said a lot of these kids get the education but the coaches' salaries have increased since 512% so they get a nice fat paycheck but the kids are not. >> there is a reason why they make so much money now. when i started a lot of college coaches are not making as much as high school but now they make millions and millions of dollars and those athletes the one who the fans come to see they don't come to see the coaches coach but to see the athletes play they need

to get their fair share of the market. cheryl: in the n.c.a.a. did announce the electronic arts side of this wear that game game, talk to me about that. images being used from past college players in the games that was settled. why did they do that? >> that is extremely sick of mccann and tells you how the case will go. they crossed the rubicon to pay athletes for use of their images and even athletes to play right now with video games that will not count as pavement. so the you can be paid to have your image that they

are willing to see that have been. the future of video games there is no rational ways to distinguish whether not the athletes should be paid. so i hope they understand to give up the video games all they talk about is the other part where the players try to get money for their images to be used alive a broadcast. >> to hear that this is not about money but it goes back in 2005 he was injured all prospects were lost playing

for alabama but then the place he was injured with that ended his career was best play of the year and every betty profited off with it but tyrone. doesn't he deserve something ? >> he does. we put the bodies on the line for the university. so to have a financial reward look at what they do. they sign on to play at the university that aside on as college students. that is part of it but to play sports.

if they don't pay and now they are not there. cheryl: now he is a bank teller. spinet they have a one-year renewal scholarships. the -- you could be a straight a student but if you are gone they bring in somebody else. they need to be paid for that. cheryl: that is why you have taken this to court. think you we appreciate your time. one of the biggest stories of sports today. >> more and more young people say yes to renting over buying. is a first-time homebuyer dead? here is the numbers that matter to you. we will be right back. all stations come over to mission a for a final go.

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economy. 10 years ago 32 percent of those had a mortgage now it is 21% is the first homebuyer dead? with our expert at pricewaterhousecoopers they are alive tonight. will this not happen? >> i don't think they are did it it is so wealth accumulation issue the average age of the first-time home buyer is 37 and the tail end of the millennial cohorts. then went to the real estate prices and a stock-market crash they don't have the down payment but college debt so they are out of the market. >> but they still aspire to be a homeowner but it is just not possible so so they

can rent. >> but the problem is they solve the overall economy. >> frontpage of the wall street journal is black-and-white it is not happening. >> let's get the boom's housing and construction and commercial developments if we don't have that the economy will not explode idle save the market taking off. >> keeping those markets stable that is 43% see you have the boomers and empty nesters to buy of the houses like this so they have to compete with them as well. bad credits is the slew of issues. >> you have been on the of frontlines this is one of their biggest fears.

>> it is the inventory issue i am working to help my dad sell his house it is above the asking price because there is nothing on the market there is demand it is for the buyer who has the wallet to pay. >> negative equity affects the housing the first-time buyers look for the affordable home but they are three times more likely to be under water. cheryl: is that the problem? sir still having that discussion? >> it is leveling off but it is still a problem with the low end of the market. >> there are foreclosures but from the numbers prospective we have 2.5 times more households than the completion of the new home. people are driving up brent

it is a vicious cycle by starting the segment it is not temporary the first-time home buyer will be at of the market for quite a while. cheryl: sitting on more than $1 trillion of debt right now. but the millenials their debt is overwhelming the average score is 626. >> today's 760 or higher. >> we will not get 80% financing. >> but the administration did say that if we're saving fannie and freddie it is on. >> also tried to create more affordable units. look at the reds' -- of french. they're spending 30 percent of the income on rent they

are not going up fast enough to keep up with demand. >> we have of 4.1% vacancy and apartments are getting expensive. [laughter] >> sorry to burst your bubble. [laughter] great to have you on the show. the airline terror for a and you are in the middle of it. we will explain next.

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upset with their airlines? george, what is the real reason? >> i think that if they had the same fares as the other airlines, this wouldn't be an issue. basically they have come in and cut it to outrageously low levels. we saw this for about 450 or $500. it meanwhile, the other airlines are charging outrageous prices. but i don't see how anyone can afford these fares. so i sympathize with the other carriers. i know that they have other profit margins. cheryl: i know that you actually wrote a big long post about it, talking about many of them are clamping down on carry-ons. and they want you to check a bag the bag and they want to encourage you to check your bags

because they make more money. they are also complaining about a low-cost airlines had to come in their territory. >> profit margins are raised. the industry is projected to make this dollars per passenger in 2014. idle any other industry in getting back to the baggage issue, that actually happened to me. my bag was an industrywide and the tsa was checked in at and i was sent back to check my bag and i almost missed my flight. cheryl: you or send back through security detector back? >> i never made it through security. they were actually sizing the bag. so there was no fee checking.

cheryl: this is going to the house of representatives doors. and so i have a feeling that we will see more about this. thank you for the advice about the bad unturned bags. okay, we are going to be right back to the question of the day answer. of the first-time home buyers out there, what about the millennial? are they dead?

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