mandatory course in high schools and colleges. >> absolutely. and watching my man, lou dobbs. he is coming up next. making money with charles payne, keep it right here on fox business. >> good evening, everyone, i am ashley webster in for lou dobbs. president obama looking to both parties in both houses today. president obama is considering an additional unit of 100 special form forces in iraq, the assignment to build up intelligence levels on the islamic state of iraq.

and flying surveillance missions over iraq, they traditionally attack aircraft and so they know that they are there, but regardless of that, the defense secretary thinks iran should be involved in the joint chief chairman is convinced of what is happening now will not happen in afghanistan. this despite the president's plan to pull out of afghanistan in much the same way that he pulled out of iraq. >> is it fair to say that the reality, talking about this probably makes some sense. >> i agree, committee know that there have been some sideline conversations. >> on a scale of one to 10, if we pull out of our troops out, general dempsey, what is the likelihood of what happened in

iraq and afghanistan? tending highly likely. >> i think based on the reports i received, i would have to make an assumption about this government. but i think that it would be unlikely in the lower thirds. >> prefacing his prediction, as you heard, his analysis is on an assumption about the capability of the afghan government. we will take all of this up in moments with our armed services committee member who will be joining us. also reportedly talking about the uss new york and talking a lot. the former pentagon official on what investigators expect and hope to uncover. and reports of collaboration between the department of justice and the irs, leaving 31

tea party groups reject the meeting on the iris targeting scandal. and first, i'm joined now by a member of both the house veterans affairs committee on armed services committee. he has also served as a combat surgeon in iraq. well-qualified to talk about what is going on. >> is disappointed me that this has taken place. we invest a lot of americans treasure in the country of iraq and we really didn't do what was appropriate to secure iraq and to make it move forward.

>> anytime you decide to leave, it is such a deeply divided part of the world, so if you commit to it, it appears to me that you would be there forever. >> well, that could be. and that has been over 50 years. so certainly that can be part of a and to be honest, i don't think that it would be necessary foolish. as we eliminated this regime and we were setting up a new government with the iraqi people, we engage with them and say that we will be here for many years to come, as we want to create a new ally in this region and we want you as well. and people, i think they understand that. and so now we are looking back on that and wish that we had great i also feel very much for the families who have made sacrifices of lost loved ones. because i am sure that the wounds that are being reopened

with what is taking place today. >> how should we approach this? at such a difficult situation. extremists in many cases. how should the u.s. play this? and what our options? >> the military is always an option, but i think as much as everything we have to take a look at what the chessboard or the battlefield really looks like. if i'm a military leader, i need to know if we have an iraqi army that's willing to fight or do we have sunnis and willing to fight. and so i would be doing something on a policy structure to try to encourage the iraqi government to embrace their student population and make them feel like they are part of the country. that has been a problem. the other thing is what does the battlefield look like and when you make a plan, are you going to be surgical about it.

and what you hope to accomplish and what is your mission. what will it take you to a college that and will you provide everything you need to accomplish that and then go ahead and do it if that is the right thing. also, i think that it is important that the administration engages with congressional leaders and i wouldn't so much spell out everything that we are thinking about doing like you just summed up a few moments ago. >> i should mention your part of the bipartisan committee to look at reforms to the veterans administration. howell encouraged are you? >> event occurs with bipartisan efforts. i think that americans and the representatives here want to take care of our veterans. but what i think is important is that we don't spend a lot of time talking about what we need to do structurally, as much as we make sure that we make the

effort to get better care right now. the other is long-term structure at the va itself. i think it needs to be a part of it. we have to make sure that our veterans are taking care of. they are the ones that have served us and we owe it to them. immediately we have to look at the message of giving people into care. the waiting list is unacceptable. >> i have to leave it right there. thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> it is my pleasure. ashley: confidence in president obama is collapsing as his administration is forced to respond to scandal after scandal to veterans affairs and the controversial release of bobo bowe berghdal. the president's approval rating is just 41%. the record level is 37% for when the president was reelected and he also is hitting a new low on the personal approval of 45%.

in a majority, 54% said president obama cannot leave and get the job done. does putting that in perspective for you. and that senior u.s. officials telling us tonight that the key leader in the benghazi terror attacks is talking. set to give his interrogators a history lesson and he's also being held on the dock ship which is on a slow trip back to washington where he is facing federal charges. i am torn by fox news security analysis k.t. mcfarland. thank you for being here. what can we get out of this guy? to me, the fact that he has been

captured, anytime they have this, what can we get out of this? >> we've had al qaeda, osama bin laden, that generation is sort of finish for winding down. and so they are not retirees, but they are no longer the main guys. ahmed abu khattala is the new generation and that is why he is so important. he set up al qaeda in libya. he is probably the mastermind of the benghazi attack and it'll probably tells a lot about al qaeda. that is potentially moving into parts of the middle east and all of those connections. who knows if he will really talk or whether he's just lecturing everyone. but he will be somebody who can talk about what al qaeda now has become and what their aims are going forward. >> they are now in more places

and not only are we seeing al qaeda affiliate in iraq, but we have seen libya largely under the influence, including the sinai peninsula, which has been a safe zone and it now seems to be populated increasingly with them. so they are moving into many countries in east africa and the middle east, and that is why we need to focus on this. >> are we winning the war? >> no, not at all. [laughter] to we look at war, we in the west and the united states, and we think of it as an abnormality. we fight the war, we are finished with the war, everyone goes back to their lives. in the middle east, they are constantly fighting the war and peace is a temporary pause. how many times have we thought?

we won, we lost, and now we are talking about the in afghanistan. and every one of these countries, the extremist groups look at it as just a temporary recruit. i think that what we are looking at throughout the mid-east is a fight between shiites and sunnis and it will go from country to country across borders and it's going to threaten that part of the world's ability as well. >> like it or not, but a horrible dictator like adame hussein but can really keep tabs on these horrible clashes and religious backgrounds. what can the u.s. do in a situation like this? >> well, i think that we should just understand that going forward, with america's vital interests in the region, oil, terror, israel.

we wonder well, we don't want their terrorists. is there a way we can achieve those objectives other than boots on the ground? >> i think there is. the united states has the ability to become energy independent. we can potentially be the world's energy supply or if we would only do it and as far as terrorist go, if we are going to look for them in every country, we will be in 30 countries. so the better ways to get control of our borders so we know who is here and secondly the ability to look at terrorist and 350 million americans. let's focus on those that have profiles that the terrorists instead of looking at grandma from grand rapids was on her way to disneyland. and we are treating her the same way. so we need to focus our efforts. when you look at everybody, this is what happens. ashley: thank you so much, as always. and time to talk about the

ukraine. time now for a look at the online poll results and we found a few felt it was going to denzel that ahmed abu khattala was found during the book tour of willy clinton. which do support? airstrikes, special forces, or do nothing at all? cast your vote. and the marine sergeant has been in prison in mexico for 79 days now. also taking a wrong turn and according to the mexican embassy, should one of their citizens be committing a crime like this? take a listen. >> on a mexican or anybody like this crosses a border, they are not committing a crime.

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act of soiling or damaging something. for instance, the cause of missing irs e-mails, leading to a court ruling of the exfoliation of evidence. my next guest represents more than 40 companies in a lawsuit and today rejected a request from the fbi to interview his clients because the justice department is deeply tainted. joining me now is the chief counsel for the american center for justice. thank you for joining us. why when you play ball with the guy? >> no, initially it took almost a year for the fbi to talk with us. initially it was three clients and we voluntarily required him to comply. but the few e-mails that we have gotten revolving around lois lerner, there is one of is troubling that cannot be the other day. that particular e-mail said on categorically that she was in conversations with the head of the election group at the

department of justice to look at bringing potential criminal cases against groups like our client who allegedly have made false statements in the application processor to political activity. and she said that we may be able to piece something together. then she sent that to the chief of staff of the internal revenue service. and in a particular response, she was very clear. she said that i like the idea, let's do this and look at the criminal investigation involved. so they were going to manufacture them no cases. and by the way this came out and this was written two days before she made that mia kulpa or the irs apologized for the behavior and for what they were saying. and they were going to bring these criminal cases. we saw that yesterday and i ended the voluntary discussions with the department of justice.

they are biased and painted a part of the problem and the idea that we get just as there was unfortunately not going to happen. ashley: they must have the worst i.t. team it's not just the lois lerner individuals, but some half a dozen other workers amazingly have lost information on their computers as well. it's almost laughable. >> it is. except i have major civil litigation here. i'm glad he said it believed it. amazingly, incredibly, this leaders within the revenue service also had their computers crash as if a computer crashing would eliminate e-mail records, which it would not. so that is bogus. but these key individuals also have had their e-mails lost in space and they expect us to believe that. now, the white house came out and said he checked our records, we don't have an e-mail from lois lerner that they could

tell. now you have to go to every agency that we are dealing with. the department of justice, the federal election commission. and that irs michener said under oath we have the ability to get them to you and produce some and that was a false statement. ashley: 40 seconds. what you won't? and independent investigation of ars? >> yes, i do. i think it's impossible for the department of justice who is institutionally incapable of investigating this. i want to see an independent prosecutor that has full prosecutorial ability in the united states. >> thank you so much for joining us tonight. we will continue to follow this. >> thank you for having me. ashley: in high schools under fire after one of its students accused of blocking access to conservative websites. each the 18-year-old said that he was trying to research on

control when he discovered that he could not get on the website for the national rifle association. he was free to access program control website planned parenthood and the state democratic website. the board of education says it's investigating. we are coming right back. >> tough choices. hillary clinton's book generating as many questions as answers when it comes to benghazi. and james rosen with a full recap when american radio talk show personalities react. we will have that knack

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van susteren, fox news chief washington correspondent james rosen told us what we've learned about hillary clinton from the interview and what we still need to know. >> i want to be fair and balanced with greta here. >> hillary clinton's visit to fox news lasted 37 minutes, far shorter than other tv sitdowns but covered a lot. >> president obama called the irs scandal a phony scandal. is it a phony scandal? >> i think that any time the irs is involved for many people it's a real scandal, and i think, though, that there are some challenges that rightly need to be made to what is being said, and i assume that the inquiry will continue. >> she didn't want to have distance between herself and the president and didn't want to anger people more on the topics. there were points she was talking on circles.

>> reporter: on foreign policy clinton sought more ambitious terms for bowe bergdahl, the former secretary urged successor to do more to free marine sergeant andrew tahmooressi. >> not just our ambassador, but others coming in. >> reporter: on benghazi, clinton fielded a series of deposition-style questions about actions on the night of 9/11. since diplomatic security agents were in realtime contact with charlene lamb in washington. did clinton talk to lamb? >> i did not. i was in direct communication with everyone who was. this is the fog of war, my own assessment careened from the video had something to do with it, it had nothing to do with it. >> reporter: relating that jones told the libyan government the attacks were the work of the al qaeda affiliated group ansar alsharyia.

>> yet telling the american people at the same time, it was this video? >> reporter: well, bret, i think that you have to take both ideas at the same time. >> reporter: fred burton is co-author of underfire, the most detailed construction of the benghazi attacks thus far. >> this was a terrorist attack, the agents knew it. the fact were conveyed back to washington and i can only conclude that politics entered into the decision-making into what was going to be said. >> reporter: the house benghazi committee is not expected to begin deposing witnesses until september. lawmakers on the panel were watching this interview very closely. in washington, james rosen, fox news. ashley: james rosen, thank you very much. well, slow justice for the family of slain border patrol agent brian terry. the fbi extra dieth one of the four suspects wanted in connection with terry's shooting death in 2010 linked

to the fast and furious gun-running operation. the suspect arrested in mexico nearly two years ago will be tried on 11 counts including first- and second-degree murder. now to borter patrol, officials giving media limited access to processing centers. one in texas and nogales, central to processing 30,000 so-called unaccompanied children who entered illegally since last october, in what president obama says is a, quote, urgent humanitarian issue. most journalists who visited the facilities were banned from bringing in cameras and recording devices but designated photographers did release images showing thousands of illegal immigrants in crowded concrete jails. we'll be right back. >> general motors new ceo mary barra grilled on capitol hill about millions of recalls in

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. ashley: joining me now, two of our favorite radio talk show hots, fox news radio's, john gibson and nationally syndicated talk show host, richard fowler. gentlemen, thank you for joining us. let's start quickly with iraq. john, i'll start with you here in the studio. what are our options? none of them are good, but what are our options as we watch this country fall apart after so many gave their lives to stabilize it. >> the best option is realize it's three little iraqistans and get used to it. i don't hear a lot. i see the president discussing

them and think he's probably going to do something that makes it look like he's doing something but it's not going to do much good. he has to face the fact he lost this war. ashley: yeah, richard, would you agree with john? what can the president do here? you know, it is a sad fact, we had a congressman on before who acted as battlefield and he feels sorry for soldiers who gave their lives to restore stability. but frankly, all of us saw it coming, didn't we? >> the truth of the matter is this. i tend to agree, there are three-state solution is the only solution that can work in the situation. joe biden talked about it ten years ago. people thought it was a joke, it's real and the only way we're going to create peace. where i disagree is i don't think the president lost this warm. i think the war was lost from day one. when you take a hornet's nest or bee's nest and shake it up over and over and over again and keep shaking it, you should expect fwees come out.

that's what's happening. >> richard, do you think it was a good idea to walk out in 2011? >> listen the plan was created by george w. bush. >> it was, but obama was supposed to get status support agreement when he had a problem with it, he decided it's time to run. >> we can sit here and talk about history all we want to. let's talk about what's happening today. >> fine, but somebody lost the war. >> the truth of the matter is the u.s.-backed government that is currently in charge of iraq is not working and we've got to fix the government. >> we have got to fix it? do you think barack obama could fix that situation? >> it's not a matter of president obama fixing the situation or not. it's on the iraqis to fix the situation. >> they're not, you know they're not, there's going to be a shia iraq, sunni iraq and a kurd iraq. >> what's wrong with that? >> we need to face the facts, obama got a war that was won and gave it away.

>> let's be very clear. the war in iraq. >> don't give me that. the war in iraq. >> ended a war that was won. >> it was when george w. bush got in the plane and said mission accomplished. >> in 2007 after the kurds, you know darn well. don't go back to mission accomplished. >> he blew it! >> gentlemen! we could go on all night and we're. let's talk about hillary clinton, did you see the interview with bret baier and greta van susteren, she sounded like a candidate and backed away all the questions like an accomplished politician does. >> senator clinton or secretary clinton, depending what title you want to give her is doing political posturing. whether or not she's going to run, i don't know, nobody knows, only the three clintons know what she's going to do. clear she's doing posturing. the book was to create a small day and night between her and this white house, a majority of

issues, she tends to agree with the president. benghazi, agrees with the president. foreign policy, she agrees with the president. >> no, she doesn't, she doesn't agree with dealing with iran that the president is currently doing. >> she took credit for benghazi. >> richard, richard, she said emphatically in that interview, dealing with iran on -- fixing iraq is out of the question, and the president is doing that right now. >> that's not exactly what the -- the president is keeping all options on the table. the president is keeping all the options on the table. >> will not happen. >> if you remember american history well, and i'm sure you do, you can remember during world war ii, we allied with stalin because -- >> are we going to go to the stalin trick now? >> and it's been -- i'm not blaming fdr at all. in world war ii, mutual enemies

makeis mutual friends for the timeing. >> iran killed americans and we're asking him to fix -- >> during world war ii to get rid of hitler. this has nothing new -- >> and hillary clinton said no way, we're not doing it. >> you should go back -- >> you should take a hard look how much daylight she's going e obama. only way for her to vun get a lot of space. it's going to get ugly. >> if you say so. >> if you say so! >> that is where we'll leave it. luckily this argument didn't get ugly. mr. gibson, mr. fowler, thank you for joining us, we appreciate it. >> thank you so much. ashley: okay, who knew that a tiny square of very old red paper could fetch you 9.5 million bucks. john probably did. the record setting price paid for a rare postage stamp from a

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crude oil down 39 cents settling below $106 a barrel. dole up a fraction, closing at 12.73 an ounce. the yield falling to 2.6%. the federal reserve trimming bond purchases by 10 million dollars a month. that was expected. the fed expects to keep interest rates steady until mid 2015. amazon shares up nearly 3% after unveiling first smartphone called the fire phone. fedex shares up 6% after posting earnings and gains, and be sure to listen to lou's financial reports three times a day, coast-to-coast on the salem radio network. congress demanding more answers from general motors ceo mary barra in a room featuring pictures of the 13 people killed because of the company's faulty ignition switch. and barra testified about gm's response to safety crisis, along with the former u.s. attorney who performed internal

report and found no evidence of a cover-up. members of the house commerce and energy committee were skeptical. >> you considered there was no conspiracy and no cover-up, does an employee acting alone that hides information sharing a cover-up? >> if the individual knows the information is a safety information and understands that and deliberately decides to conceal that, that's a cover-up, yes, it is. ashley: as for the steps taken to reform gm, barra fired 15 senior managers and hired 35 safety investigators, steps she insist will change the culture of gm. >> i am told our employees, it is not enough to simply fix this problem. we need to create a new standard and we will create a new norm. this is more than a campaign or a program, it's the start of changing the way we think and act at general motors. ashley: general motors stock down just fractionally today

but lost more than 11% year to date. joining me now edmunds.com senior analyst jessica caldwell. how do you think mary barra is doing? before we get into the meat of this, not an easy job, she seems to be standing up and taking the heat. >> she really, is she started this job in january, so she is not very much a tenured ceo by any stretch of the imagination, but i think she's handling this with a lot of honesty, brutally honest about the shortcomings of general motors which is tough to do as ceo and life long employee of the company. it's a tough situation she's in. ashley: so what kind of damage is done to gm's reputation? >> well, i think everyone at this point has heard of the general motors recalls, and i think that, you know, a lot of people know what's going on. i think in terms of what's happening to sales, sales are still doing relatively well. they had a great may.

it looks like a lot of people that had the older model recalled vehicles are trading them in and buying new general motors vehicles. that says a lot of people for the brand. there may be pr issues but the bottom line is they're selling cars and they're doing well and retaining customers. ashley: yeah, it's remarkable, looking at the stats. the value of a 2010 chevy malibu rose almost 3% from february when the recall started through may. should point out malibu has been part of five recalls and the value has gone up. is it perhaps people are now perceiving that safety is such an issue, a priority for gm, they feel more comfortable with the vehicles now? >> i think that's definitely mind-set for some people. they feel like this is the safest period of time to buy a general motors vehicle, because they're looking at every single thing that could possibly go wrong with the vehicles. but you also just have out there a demand for used cars,

car shoppers want something that's older and doesn't seem like the value is necessarily being hit as strongly as one would see, from all of these news stories out there. a lot of people want cars and whether they're gm or not, they need them. the values are unaffected. ashley: what else do you think gm will do? do you expect targeted marketing efforts and bigger discounts to win back the favor of the consumer? >> i mean, i think they have to be strategic about it. i think that right now, anyone that's coming in with the recalled car, i'm sure there are provisions for them to get a better deal. i think that they still have a long way to go dealing with the whole issue as a whole. mary is definitely suggested steps they're starting. they have a ways to go. but it's still, you know, in terms of that consumer, they're willing to offer deals.

i wouldn't expect a huge price campaign, i think they're dealing with issues at hand. ashley: hasn't hurt them too much so far. we're out of time. jessica, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. ashley: mounting pressure on the washington redskins to change their name. that after the u.s. patent and trademark office canceled the trademarks ruling the name is disparaging to american indians. the decision means the team will have a harder time protecting name and logo for other people use them put on permission but doesn't mean the redskins themselves have to stop using the name. coming up next, a brand-new business offering a cure to the enigma of large corporations that continuously pay small business suppliers late. christian lange explains how next. you do your shop from anywhere thing, and we'll be here at lifelock doing our thing: offering protection that simple credit score monitoring can't. get lifelock protection

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. ashley: now to the quotation of the evening from john d. rockefeller, quote, if you want to succeed, strike out new parts rather than travel the worn path of accepted success. wise words. next guest has taken rockefeller's advice, no doubt. trying to solve the problem of late payments between large companies and small suppliers and says this delay is bankrupting thousands of small businesses and impacting economic growth. joining me is co-founder and co-ceo trade shift. what does your business do? you have created software that stops the small businesses without getting money in time. >> absolutely. thank you for having me here. if you look at it today, more than 16 trillion dollars globally, 2 trillion more than the u.s. is locked off in late

payments. companies have massive processes around it. small companies don't get paid. that means they go bankrupt, don't hire the next employee and can't get access to finance. ashley: what does your software do? >> it basically automate the process between the multiplier and the last company and we do that globally for them, to make the interaction with the supply team much more efficient and at the same time, we can get small business all the data they need to get better finance and get the payment. ashley: how much do the big companies rely on lag time before they pay off suppliers, would they not be concerned with this? >> after 2008, it was a worry you have to cash off on the balance sheet. you are hurting supply chain, you don't get cheaper product, you don't get cheaper price. if you can get the 2 trillion in half, you have a 1 trillion

in money, you don't put effect on the company's investment. ashley: have you taken this concept and boldly gone into the silicon valley. how has that gone? >> trade ship is a global company. we have 200 employees in 25 countries. silicon valley was the last for us. it's of course the tech capital of the world, you have to be there, we have strong partners, intuit, paypal. ashley: there is a lot of competition in silicon valley. >> absolutely. but it also keeps you sharp. ashley: as you grow, do you have other products or are you going to continue to grow with the one concept? >> companies that have the sales path, you see the hr, that whole path. trade ship is addressing the supply chain. this is the last frontier with the companies to make an impact. >> the average person says the

cloud, i don't know, there's something up, there security issues with the cloud. we hear every day of people being hacked into, companies, what kind of issue does that pose for you? >> absolutely. that's one of the greatest worries with the cloud. when it comes to security, it's about the processes. one of our customers is the national health service in the u.k., we've gone through garmin, handling health care data, there is no difference doing that in the cloud or premise, it's about the process you have in place. ashley: you are now based in san francisco, you began in denmark? >> in denmark. copenhagen. we started in the garage, denmark is a little colder out there. >> christian lange, thank you very much. trade shift is the name of the company. continued success. >> thank you for having me. ashley: time for your comments, the authors will receive a free copy of lou's new novel,

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