get out of the airlines. >> and now for the best call in 2014, gary b, you are going to win again with netflix gaining 47%. time to binge buy? >> keep buying. i love it. >> thank you, guys. you will only get the fair and balanced pat on the back and kick in the butt next with neil. giving the v.a. the business from someone who knows a thing or two a about running a business. hello, everyone. can a tie-guy clean up the mess at the v.a. president obama nominated kep mcdonald, the one time ceo of procter & gamble to be in charge of a much different giant. charles payne, you say, why stop there? is. >> why stop there? i love the idea, too, of a ceo coming to wshgashington, d.c., will he be am loued to do what a ceo can do, bring in the accountability, and wreck the place and turn it upside down,

and turn it into something that serves the function of the people it is supposed to be serving, and if not, it is all a show. >> we call that an opening salvo. i want to bring in the rest of the friend and my gang in here, and we have charles kasewn, and charles gas pa reno. >> i think that bob mcdonald is an interesting choice, but not the right choice. he had a rough time at procter & gamble. >> at the end. >> and because of the not paying attention and accused by the boards -- >> too many boards. you are a hater. >> and a little bit. he does have the military experience so i like the idea of, i mean, i would privatize my v.a. if i had the droth erers at it, but to bring in somebody with the military experience, he, himself, is not the right choi choice. no matter who they bring in, it is going to be somebody who brings in the fairness in the

v.a. >> and so put the onus on him to fix the v.a. and in other words, give him the authority that both of the senate and the house have agreed to give and not reconciled the differences. that means that the guy is going to take on a position with one arm tied behind his back. >> and any businessman that goes into the obama administration and if you look at the record over the last eight years almost now, has gone in with two arms tied behind their back. and bill daley went in as chief of staff, and departments kind of blocked at every step of the way by valerie jarrett. i would say that this guy is a good choice based on what i know for the job, but my problem with the va is that i we don't need a guy to the manage it better, but we need a guy to blow it up and radically change the va. >> and you need somebody to bust heads, but at this time, not matter who you choose, this guy,

anyone, they won't be able to do that. >> well, is a shgwell, it is a n assumption, and the cards are stacked so far against anybody making this organization leadership. and what anybody needs is political support, and that has knototology do with the capit capitalism or the socialism government, but a corporate leader who has the backing of the board because things are so bad can do a lot, and the political leader or the -- >> well, a political leader runs the bureaucracy and doesn't let them do it. >> and well, well, what i am saying, neil, this political situation has gotten so bad that this the guy is boss, the chairman of the board says he can, and say that you have my permission to, you know, to really tear it up. >> adam, adam, president obama has never listened to anybody from the business world, and we should point it out. when you talk to the ceos who have sat down the talk to him, they call him the four ls, doesn't listen, leaves early,

and lectures and i can't remember the last one. well, you can't make fun of any politician who forgets the numbers, charlie. >> and if you listen to the business leaders about this president, he does not care what they have to say. >> well, he appointed a guy that you liked. >> who? which one? >> the p and g guy. >> okay. >> well, one thing that you like. you are a hater and a mean person person who will not get the benefit of the doubt. >> well, i liked jeffrey milt, and he does not like anybody there on the council. he does not listen to them. >> and charles, do you think that the secret agreement was made? i know if you were the president's choice at the v.a. which would never happen by the way, and you would come in there and say, mr. president, i will do it, but you to let me do my thing, and he might say, well, you don't have the power to do your thing, but i will back you up to do your thing, and this guy had to have made a thick

like this. >> and maybe cheryl alluded to this guy being on too many boards successful on one area like to have it on their resume, i was in part of the administration and i did this. >> and we know that he was not the first choice, and a couple of people turned it down. >> and charlie says that the president does not like to deal with the businessmen, but he does not listen to the party or anybody else. so if you do, you will be talking to nobody but sycophant s. >> and this is a tough job for any president under any circumstance, because of the s dysfunction that is built up in the organization. >> and the dysfunction of the presidency. >> and without getting into the fact that whether or not the president listens, he is clearly listening, because it is bad and it is looking bad for him what is happen iing, and he is

listening. he fired the last guy. >> he does not listen. he lectures. >> and according to every corporate guy i talk to. >> and can we back up. >> i back up on that win. >> and now, what do you see coming on this? with we know that the confirmation hear vgs to start within 26 working days of the midterm elections, and what can realistically be done? >> well, here is the plan, but the implementation of the plan won't go into effect for veterans until next year. >> and have a mutiny and sue me later. >> he won't do it. and you are right, he was not the first choice and this is a great rez mashgs and he goes out the make a ton of money speaking. >> he does not need a ton of money. >> anybody who has money wants to make more money. >> i can't believe the cynicism of the group. and here is all i'm saying, adam, he would be well backed up by the american people, and by the dysfunctional counters to go

ahead to do whatever he wants when he gets in there. >> well, i come plootly agree, and -- completely agree, he is going to do as good of a job as many, and do an assessment of how to fix it, and then fix it. he is going to accomplish a small percentage of what he hopes to, and the corporate audiences are not going to be dying to hear from the former head of the v.a. in x-years down the road. >> how many plans have worked coming out of the administration, and the finance reform, and the help for homeowners, that brainchild of a plan didn't go anywhere, and the veterans are the victims, and we will be fighting about it for a another year. >> and when is the last time that the president lis eped to corporate america. >> i so glad that mo ether terrte --

mother teresa did pass away. so now, given all of the scandals in the whistle blowers and they are actually destroying that application, and so that the bosses could meet the numbers to get the bonuses, and the wind is such that this guy can do almost anything that he wants. >> well sh, he can try. well, listen, i believe it when i see it coming out of this administration listening to the common sense business advice. they don't do it, and never have, and they fall back on the political quick fix or whatever is good for the poll. >> or fall back on the ideology, and the same for the keystone pipeli pipeline. any time he has a solution part or parcel, it will be cut out completely. >> and this is going to be predicting late october, and on tape by my prediction, here is what we are going to do and the president is going to say, i

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to "cavuto." >> we are a nation of citizens. >> usa, usa! >> and turning back the bus as some citizens did that after immigrants were be being bussed into their town without a head's up. the white house wants an emergency $2 billion to deal with the problem, but, didn't they create the problem? >> well, they put out the welcome sign. and i don't know how they got this notion, wink, wink, but the best time to come is right now, and 90% of people there in latin america believe that there is going to be amnesty. and now the rush. they get if from the white house. if you want to be firm, tell the people that they won't come here, and be citizens and in trouble and turned away, come out to say it. >> i am trying toed come to the bottom of the $2 billion, and never mind we don't have the money, but i thought it was for

border enforcement, but it is not. it is largely to get more buses. >> yes, more buses, and for health, and listen -- i listen, i'm a ro pro immigrant and i come from the family of immigrants, but i say this -- >> you are pro immigrant, but we are all are, and you are pro legal. >> and the hardest working people i know are in new york city. >> and most of them are not mexicans for the most part. there are central american people who come to mex eco and they tell them they can't stay there. i won't delineate, but the south american people that i know are very hardworking people. >> and you can't say that. >> and you can't have open borders in a welfare state, and not some nutty right wing libberer taryne salib er error -- libber tarylibertarian but it was buddy freedman.

>> i have to say that i grew up in texas and i agree with charlie, yes, some hardworking families, but there are big difficulties that cause legal americans troubles and that is housing and health and things, but going back to $2 billion here, and where is that going to go? 40% of the security agents down there, 40% of the time is going to babysit iting, and now we ar going to spend $2 billion on the facilities which means no extra agents out of this, adam, and correct me if i'm wrong, and where is the support, and i have interviewed jan brewer and she feels completely abbandoned by the president, arizona governor jan brewer, and we are to give $2 billion now to the party that is not going to change. >> and to fine tune this, and interesting to get your thoughts on this, but don't you think that the president politically wanted to corner the republicans on this, and that if they were to reject that $2 billion offer to fix this, and even though we looked into it, it is not what it quite appears, they look once

again like they're, you know, against minor is the or against the immigrants and to draw the distinction, and no it is illegal immigrants. >> on the tactical thing of the $2 billion, sure. anything could be construed as trying to embarrass the republicans, and yes, but that is ignoring the -- >> well, it is not a leak to construe it, because it is. >> and president obama and president bush before him have been trying for years to get the republicans to go along with the comprehensive immigration reform. and remember president bush failed. >> and they let the people in without doing the border enforcement. >> and what do you think here? >> well, the money, it is here to either -- first of all house the people safely, and to send thm back, and the president has said out loud that we will send them back. stop sending people. >> and the busloads of them were coming into phoenix at 115-degree heat and dumped off and nobody is watching them.

they sort of spread out all over the place. >> and to my point, adam, what i want to know, what are we doing with the money? we are not going into border enforcement with it, and what are we paying for more buses or transport transports or what? >> yes, because the part of the money is to address the concern that you have, neil. >> and we are putting them in buses, and albeit air conditioned ones, it does not solve the problem, and they are still here. >> sending the message to people in central america, that if you come here, we are going to send you back. >> and on a bus. >> yes, because be we are a humane day and it is sad day to have the ugly protests, and this is where the america is, and we will be hateful to you, because you are in a bad situation. >> well, look, don't make them sound racist, because it was not telegraphed to them, and no advanced warning and then all of the sudden, they are responsible for thousands of illegals in the community, and nobody gave them

a head's up, and they were surprised and pissed off. >> yes, but to go shouting usa, usa, that is not the way to deal with it. >> well, you as a good meaning liberal, you would have a change of heart fast. >> well, neil, i have a argument with the people on the front page of the "wall street journal" all of the time that immigrants help with productivity and the economy, and -- >> yes, the legal ones. >> but are you saying that all of the people in texas and arizona and they are racists and they don't esoo the hospitals overflowed and the school systems impair ed and the problems of integrating that many people in this country. >> they see 25 people living in one home, because they are sending all of the money back to mexico, and it is crime ridden and destroy iing the area. i lived in arizona, and it is no more. it has to stop.

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>> all right. with millions hitting the sky this holiday weekend to celebrate the red white and blue, the tsa wants more of your green. the government run security agency is hiking its fees on air fare. it's actually more than double, giving the government an extra 17 billion bucks over the next ten years. >> you have got to live a tip on top of it? cheryl told me to say that.

how come it costs so much money to run government? >> do we know why they are asking for more money? is it not enough? >> these costs are going up. i just wish it was -- >> don't go there. >> all right. >> i have to tell you what. i'm okay with more money going to the tsa. >> do you have a limit? >> everybody's got a limit. >> why aren't the flight attendants patting us down? >> again, we see you coming and we run the other way. not that guy. >> rescue us from the complaints now being filed.

>> i want the tsa people to have every last dollar they feed to keep us safe. the government employees have kept us very safe. >> why does the cost of government go up so much more than everybody else? >> i don't know. an additional $17 billion over ten years is a particularly large amount of money for the federal government. >> don't they already have cash? why do they need more? >> adam, what do you think of my plan? >> i don't want to touch your plan. do this or else. you want to keep this the way it's been going.

if you skip then we're looking at another 9/11. >> i do think there is still a real threat around the world. >> i'm with adam. a, i don't want to touch charlie at the screening point. >> you're not alone. >> don't let this guy through. thank you. charlie, whatever. up next -- >> actually, there is a reason why this guy's show is called making money. back in january, charles took a real estate website, zillow, and guess what? look at all the green. you really want to be out on that? we have got more. three new picks for the second half of the year. go ahead and watch something go ahead and watch something el

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