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well, it should. sounds like a lot of va officials or the irs losing thousands of e-mails. this is more than just taxing and insutting. play fast and loose by the folks supposedly protecting our border, it is criminal, and it is very dangerous. and we wonder why illegals come here this busloads. i have to think that these guys might now and then be the ones driving them. but don't believe me. i'd like to have your thoughts here as well, hashtag cavuto. to arizona republican congressman what he thinks. congressman, what do you make of this and the fact that 200.+2p agents were involved, so, again, it's not the entire agency, but it does raise questions about this agency. what do you think? >> it does. but it shows us a lack of this administration's ability to uphold the rule of law, neil. justice brandeis once said if a

government doesn't uphold the rule of law scrupulously, it breeds contempt for the law and breeds contempt for every man to be a law unto himself, and this is an example of what you just saw. neil: do you think these cartels -- believe me, i'm not trueing to justify behavior, but some of them threatened u.s. border agents and said, look, if you don't turn a blind eye, a relative who you love could just die. in other words, it gets to be threatening, intimidating, and much as they act south of the border they're beginning to act north of the border. >> oh, absolutely. you know, being proactive. you know, we've seen cells do this, you know, in the middle east, we've seen it all the way across the board, so why wouldn't they continue doing that north of the border? neil: so what would you advocate we do about this? >> well, i think what we need to do is make sure that the people we have control of, our border patrol, know what's right and wrong, and then if you stray from what's wrong, that you face a penalty. and then also what we need to start doing is putting people in better positions by upholding

the rule of law and starting to crack down on the drug cartels and and smugglers. neil: all right. there was another argument raised that maybe these agents are too distracted. they're supposed to be watching the border, the buses go through that they missed somehow. maybe this is the reason. maybe we've got to limit or define their job and make it much more specific because they're proving shabby at whatever their direct responsibilities are. >> no, i think what it comes down to, neil, is actually making people uphold the rule of law like this administration. that's w got an attorney general and a president creating and fabricating crisises. maybe what we need to do is look at them for creating this problem. neil: okay. congressman, thank you very much. i want to bring on our all stars, sabrina, schafer, jesse lee. what do you make of this. >> government has never been ethical or honest based upon what we've seen in recent years.

$80,000 in bonuses for people that knew corrupt was going on during during their watch. governor rick perry said they're either inept, or there's an all ulterior motive, and i have to have confidence because he has told the white house of this problem years before. he's never gotten an answer to a letter he wrote in 2010. so what's going on? neil: sabrina, if we're going to look to get or hire more agents of this caliber -- not all of the ones that work there are of this caliber, then how do i know i'm getting the good guys looking of after the bad guys? >> i think all of these scandals whether we're talking about the nsa, the va, i think this is a function of too big government. this is government that has become so big and so intrusion i become a havenstay. but before we do any more hiring, we need to clean house in all of these different agencies. neil: we do have the president's

$2 billion fix for what was the busing thing, right? now, is that greatsing any of this? >> the only by we're ever going to address anything, and with all due respect to the congressman, he is why we can't have an honest conversation. i don't know how to tell him this, but we have had crime long before this administration. we've had police officers, we've had border police, we've had all sorts of law enforcement officials being bribed by the bad guys. all -- neil: have we ever had 300? >> actually, we probably have. neil: probably? >> i don't know. neil: i'm not trying to justify, but -- what doe with do? what -- what do we do? the president has a $2 billion plan to fix problems with buses -- >> yeah. that doesn't speak to the problem of crooked -- neil: well, these are buses that these agents -- >> well, you know what we don't do, we don't go the stupid, silly route of saying if this president would enforce the law. come on. neil: you just said that the prior president had the same

problem. >> i'm saying lots of presidents probably had the same president. [inaudible conversations] neil: this doesn't inspire much confidence as it exists now. >> well, i don't even know that cleaning house is the answer because the reality is we've said that same campaign slogan for the 10, 15 years. this is how we make a change. we have an election coming. everybody who's upset about this needs to hold their vote accountable, write their senators, write their congressmen and start being proactive. sitting here and just complaining and throwing your ding dongs at the television set isn't going to accomplish anything. get a voice. get involved and start making your voice heard, and then we'll start seeing change. neil: good. go ahead, sabrina. >> people have to know what they're supporting, and i think we need to make government smaller because right now we have so many interests that whether we're talking about lawmakers or regulatory agencies, everybody is currying favor, and in this case they're currying favor to the drug smugglers. this is a really bad situation. think james madison put it really well, if men were angels,

we wouldn't need government. but that doesn't mean that government doesn't need to control itself level. we need to rein all of these agencies in significantly. neil: all right, guys, thank you all very much. when we come back, you think all of this is a slap at the constitution, i want you to hear about the professor who no longer wants to teach the constitution, says it's archaic. all you have to do is bounce that off our judge, because the constitution is a hugely big deal with him. man, oh man, oh man. fire. ♪ ♪ to complicate ♪

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country is. >> american experiment has been the greatest success story in the history of the world so, yeah, i think it's done pretty good so far. >> every kid should know what that's about, and they should be, you know, crowd of their country. >> we have a right to an education, but i think that is part of the right to our education. neil: all right. just a sampling of folks outside here on what they thought about this. to judge andrew napolitano who finds this more than just a little piece of paper or to the professor of the university president's words, an archaic piece of paper. >> well, this is a school wholly owned by the state of south carolina, and the state of south carolina has a law; you work in a school, you run a school that's owned by us, you teach the constitution. so he is without liberty -- neil: what made him say this? what made him say it? >> i don't know what made him say it, and i know him. he's an up from the boot straps, hard working guy. he's not a left-wing kook. i suspect he's been surrounding

himself with act da missions a little bit too long. neil: he was saying 60% of the students get wind of this taking political science or other courses, but by definition that means 40% do not. >> well, the statute actually gives him a lot of wiggle room. it doesn't say you shall teach this course or that course, it says you shall teach a course on the constitution. you can teach a very basic course, or you can teach an advanced course. but think about students graduating from a school funded by their tax dollars of their parents who were told they'll have a basic understanding of the government graduating from the school without a basic understanding of the government because one person violated his oath to uphold the law. as a state employee, the president took an oath to uphold the laws of the state of south carolina. not just the laws he likes, but all the laws. does this sound familiar to you, neil cavuto, somebody taking an oath to uphold the law and deciding there's something he doesn't like, and he's not going

to enforce them? neil: right, right. but there are a large group of people, young, who feel that the constitution is out of step and out of date. >> yes. neil: you hear that all the time. >> i do, and i've heard it from the president of the united states, and now we've heard it from this president of the university of south carolina who called it archaic. it is the law of the land. it is the foundation of our country. it describes the government, and it restrips the government. restrains the government. if we ignore it, we do so at our peril, and it'll bring about tyranny. neil: thousand, those who pushed his position that we rely on it too much argue that it spoke of a time when slavery was okay, it was a white man's world, a white man's rich world and that it doesn't, again, to speak of these times you say -- >> as a result of the amendments, the 27 amendments to the constitution, we have rid ourselves of the prejudice against woman, women and the slavery of african-americans and those aspects of it that were

horrific at the time that it was adopted, but, of course, it was a different mindset then. it is really the greatest document in the history of the world for the preservation of liberty. but it is only as good as the fidelity of those into whose hands it is reposed for reserving liberty because if people like the president of the united states or the president of the university of south carolina don't believe in it, they're not going to enforce it, and if they don't enforce it, our liberty will not be preserved. neil: wow. you said that better than anyone. all right, judge, thank you very, very much. >> pleasure. neil: he will not be enrolling at the university. [laughter] when we come back, guess what generation is struggling to get a job? not only are a lot of young people not working, but they make up the lion's share, by far the lion's share of all americans who aren't working. no wonder why a certain young fellow is running more office to change it now. ♪ ♪

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call liberty mutual for a free quote today at see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. neil: you know, we always hear that at of people are un'em lowed in this country unemployed in this country, but we never hear the statistic within the statistic, 40% of all the un'em 34r0eued, they're -- un'em lowed, they're millennials. and that's why you have this young guy running for office, because he wants to change that. he's all of 32 years old. he's a republican, he is running for governor in the fine state of new hampshire, his name is andrew hemingway. andrew, good to have you. >> thank you very much for having me on. neil: your whole reason for candidacy, besides the fact that you face an uphill fight -- name recognition -- is that you think

young people are being forgotten, and the tragic statistics behind youth unemployment is being forgotten, don't you? >> that is absolutely correct. i mean, we see that here in new hampshire which is, you know, obviously of hi greatest concern, but -- my greatest concern, but we see that in disatistics -- statistics all across the country. we see that from a political perspective. and i'm fighting to give millennials a voice at the table. not just millennials, to act and bring forward policies and new, innovative ideas to a system that has been dominated by older folks for a number of years now, and we see ourselves in a situation where we're sort of out of touch, and we're starting to lose a generation, and i'm trying to fight to bring those things back. neil: i've always thought, and you can correct me if i'm wrong, it's been sort of like a mecca to a lot of those who have gotten disgusted with the high taxes in massachusetts and the expanding technology industry within the state of new

hampshire, no slouch when it comes to being compared to massachusetts. so isn't new hampshire itself a beacon for these types? >> i wish that were true, neil. today after ten years of democrat governors, we find ourselves in a state with budget shortfalls, we find ourselves in a situation with very high unemployment numbers among young people, and we also find ourselves with one of the highest corporate tax rates in the country. in fact, you know, we in new hampshire, you know, tease massachusetts by calling them tax achusetts -- neil: i have friends and relatives, actually, who live in new hampshire and choose to do so because massachusetts, with whatever taxes you're talking about, i'm sure they're getting high, they're still dramatically lower than neighboring massachusetts. >> well, i mean, we see even our rooms and meals taxes higher than massachusetts, corporate tax rate's higher than

massachusetts, we see a number of taxes and fees. over the last ten years, new hampshire has raised over 100 fees and taxes, and that starts to compound, especially on new hampshire's economy which is made up of predominantly small local -- neil: well, how would you then define yourself? are you a tea party type? a conservative type? the ilk of scott walker who's running for senate? who? what? >> i would define myself as a republican. neil: scott brown, i apologize. >> we fight for lower taxes. we fight for, you know, those principles, for liberty, for freedom. i think that i fit very, very well in the historic definition of live free or die which our state is based on. and that, ultimately, is what we're fighting for here, is trying to reduce the role of government in our lives and in our economy and allow the free market to breathe, allow entrepreneurs to create and do what they do best and start to get more jobs. instead of policies like we see

where we would raise the minimum wage which would only have the opposite effect of what we hear. it would more hurt this millennial generation, it would put more of us ultimately out of work. so those are the types of policies we're trying to fight against. neil: we'll watch closely, andrew hemingway. again, running for governor, we did put out a call to the incumbent governor. we have yet to hear back. i think she has been on before, has she not, guys? maybe i'm wrong, but hope springs eternal. thank you, sir. the last word he mentioned about the higher minimum wage, that's getting to be a big, big cause celebre across the country, but careful what you wish for, because if your state does raise the minimum weak, then a lot -- wage, then a lot of institutions do cut back on their hiring. in fact, some of them stop hiring people. it's happening in michigan, and folks are finding out the hard way. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ neil: well, michigan's minimum wage hike could force colleges to start cutting student jobs. in fact, according to my next guest, it's happening. campus reform editor-in-chief has the details for us. i hope i pronounced that correctly. what are you noticing happening already? your minimum wage is eventually going up to $9 t.25 an hour, right? >> yeah, $9.25. so we increased the minimum wage, currently it's $7.40. by september it's going to be $8.15, and then come january of 2018 -- because the minimum wage increase is set to be implemented over the next four years -- it will be $9 25. neil: so what are institutions doing in the interim to prepare? >> we're seeing that universities like sag gnaw valley state university in michigan, they're coming out and saying we have a $760,000 cost now because of this law for

on-campus employment, and we're going to have to start firing some students. we're going to have to start giving them fewer hours, that's what we're seeing. universities are stepping in and saying because of an increase, we're going to have to start taking that money from somewhere else, and, you know, that's going to come from fewer student employees. neil: let me bring my all-stars into this. sabrina, what do you make of that, that, you know, if the law says you have to raise that minimum wage, you have to make adjustments to it, and if caleb is right, some institutions are doing just that. >> i think caleb's right on here, and i think this gets to the point of what andrew hemingway was saying in the previous segment. it's young people who are hurt the most by many of these policies. who is hurt by raising the minimum wage? it's people with the fewest skills like students, many women, moms. these are the people who are hurt. and we talk about income inequality in this country, now we're going to make it

prohibitively expensive for kids who need to work and pay for college at the same time. few of them are going to be able to accomplish that. neil: jesse? >> well, we just got through talking about 40% unemployment rate for millennials. this is a perfect example of how they're going to get hit hard immediately. it's going to cost the university $760,000 up until 2018, so where's the money going to come from? many people need these things just for a resumé, and if you'rety min bishing it so that i've got to pay $9.25 as an employer, you're going to walk onboard already with that bachelor's degree. >> let's talk about what getting hit hard means. by the way, i love how conservatives are always saying let the states do it. keep the federal government out of it. but it turns out they only mean that when the state does what they want them to do. because here the state of michigan with a republican-controlled statehouse and a republican governor decided that they would let the-in mum wage float -- the minimum wage float with the cost of living.

that's the big footprint -- neil: they also did an end run what was going to be a state referendum -- >> no, they did. neil: $10 an hour. but you're arguing different things. you're right, the state did it. >> at the cost of living. neil: the cost of living went up. i'm not here to politically characterize it. what do you think of the implications of that move that some colleges are going to have to cut back? >> first of all, i don't necessarily believe it. i read the article that kyle was referring to, and the guy purposely said it's likely. now, bear in mind this is a university that funded -- no, it wasn't cobb's article. it was funded 40% if not more now -- neil: do you know how many jobs are going to be lost as a result? >> no, i really don't. by the way, do you know why the schools are having money problems? because nobody wants to eat in their cafeterias, nobody wants to stay in their dorms anymore. you know what? put some people on the line in the cafeteria, some students, and maybe people will eat there. [inaudible conversations]

>> the bigger point is what jestie points out which is entry-level jobs give you skills, they're the first rung on the employment ladder. that's what's -- >> how low should we pay them, intreen that? >> what they're willing to do the work for. these students are there to pay the bills while they're in college and to get a leg up so that when they graduate, they have a resumé, and, rick, as much as i agree about state laboratories or states being laboratories, this is simply bad policy that's going to hurt young workers -- neil: well, caleb, how widespread was this phenomenon? some institutions might be saying we fear these cuts, we're going to to -- >> we've seen, we're seeing it all across the country. the university in illinois where they're trying to increase minimum wage, they already have a very, they have one of the best minimum wage laws in the country or one of the highest ones, and universities there are coming out and saying if you

increase this minimum wage even more to over $10 an hour, we will have to fire students. neil: but to rick's point, they knew the minimum wage was going to go up. is the issue the alarming rate at which it did go up and that they could deal with it in small increases or that it just went up period? >> well, i think the issue is who's going to subsidize this? where is that money -- >> who subsidizes the school? >> well, it comes from -- yeah, the budget shortfall is coming from fewer depressed enrollment rates and few or people eating in the cafeteria. but it's also coming from government bureaucrats demanding that certain people be paid a certain wage. since when does helping the unemployed, since when is a way to help the unemployed by making the unemployed or those that are trying to get into the work force more expensive to hire. >> but you asked a question. >> not people looking for jobs. >> you asked the right question, you said who's subsidizing this? the answer is the state. do you honestly not believe,

honestly that people who run these colleges, state colleges, make these statements hoping to get more money out of the state? do you see any private schools -- >> well, of course they're trying to get more money out of the state. >> right. >> it's a vicious cycle. neil: you don't assume that private schools are going to do the same thing? >> i don't know that you can. i didn't see anything in the article that said private schools were doing it. neil: it would be surprising if they had to make up -- >> no, i actually don't because they make so much money. >> free enterprise should be setting the wages, not the government. whatever because if it's a dollar an hour, i'm not applying for the job. you have choice in this country. quit making everybody a victim. and i'd rather have a job than no job when i'm 19 years old so i can having something on my resumé instead of being one of those 40% unemployed millennials. >> right. neil: i wish we had more time. blessedly, we don't. [laughter] when we come back, you might want to watch out, white house, because the largest growing opposition group not coming from republicans, it's coming from

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a great idea. it's not simply the individual mandate that's a problem, it's the employer mandate too. neil: what do you think of that? >> even last year, 35 democrats on the house side had voted against an extension for the government because what it really boils down to was the law was written clearly, and the president has continually tried to reach out and change and modify. what it's boiling down to is all the constituents that are getting ready to vote have been screaming that they can't find jobs, that their employers aren't hiring or their health care costs have gone up. those are the facts they're face, and if they want to get reelected, they have to listen to those constituents. democrat or republican or moderate or liberal, you must follow -- neil that'll this is an election -- neil: this isn't an election year, either side's going to hear from businesses complaining about this mandate. put it off, delay it, do whatever you have to because right now it's killing me. >> i'm maybe not the best one to argue this because i was early to the party on this. i raised the issue back when we were still debating the affordable care act. look, there are very possibly --

neil: i think you called it the embodiment of evil, what the hell was obama thinking. [laughter] then that line i really love, is he not the host clueless -- most clueless president we've had? [laughter] >> that was me. you know, there were probably better ways to go about it, and i actually agree with sabrina, there are considerable upsides -- neil: what is he saying? is that a water item shed event? >> here's the problem. let's understand what the problem is, and i'm going to go back to what sabrina said. there are many, many benefits to separating people out from the employment. the employment approach worked at a time, probably doesn't work now. the problem is that with employer-sponsored health care, you get the benefit of large group bargaining. you don't get that as an individual. the way i would have won about it, if -- gone about it, if anybody had cared, would have been to create a situation where people in some natural form could have bounded together so that they can negotiate for their health care -- neil: well, we didn't do it. >> we can't do it.

what we've got is -- >> we can never get people to talk to each other. neil: but where does this go? >> essentially, democrats are going to have to turn the other cheek and basically side with many of their republican counterparts. neil: if we delay or cancel the employer mandate -- >> we've already delayed -- neil: -- you're not having anything approaching the original law. >> absolutely. but it's changed how many times? over a hundred times -- neil: at least 97 and a half. >> exactly. >> all by regulation. >> hopefully, we're going to see pieces of this taken apart and reconstructed so that it's effective for the american people instead of shoving it down their throats and making everybody swallow this dirty little jagged pill. >> i agree. neil: sabrina, what do you think of that? will i'm not sure i'm with that. >> i agree. look, we really need individuals to own and control their health care dollars, right? individuals are the best people to determine their risk and what they want to spend -- >> how would you get them a good

rate? >> they want to make sure they're not tied to their job. some people are going to want that cadillac health care plan, and they're willing to take less take home pay as a result, but others are not. and i think that's what we're finding. when you tie it to your place of employment, you can't have that kind of flexibility that men and women are getting accustomed to. neil: something's got to change. guys, thank you. when we come back, remember michelle obama was getting all furious at these all you can eat buffets and then companies started using we don't have an all you can eat buffet? well, i love this other company because it decided she never said anything about all you can eat appetizers, after this. ♪ ♪

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on the flip side, of course, he has rescued them time and again, so they owe them their business fannies, but he keeps coming back and kicking them this the gapny. the latest to go after these exotic instruments they use to make a lot of money. to date, we've had better than $38 billion worth of bank fines, never mind where that money's going. the fact theth going to keep on going -- it's going to keep on going and going. back with sabrina, rick and jestie. >> i understand there are real problems with wall street versus main street. what concerns me are these large financial reform efforts. i look at something like dodd-frank, 2300 pages, 243 new rules,11 agencies overseeing it. this to me seems like business' worst nightmare. better to clarify the rules of the game and let bids move forward and individuals as well rather than muddying the waters even further. neil: reform is never debt when it comes to reforming the banks.

i should say we should reform the so-called reformers. but leaving that aside, where do you think this is going, jessie? >> well, it's going to hit the consumers in the pocketbook. our interest rate's going to hit us hard with our credit cards -- neil that'll so they'll pass along these costs. >> of course. everything's going to fall down to the consumers. the justice department had collected in 2013 $8 billion in fines. we're talking between bank of america and france's bnp $21 billion alone just on those two banks alone. when consumers start being penalized, why don't we reform without such heavy penalties, because it's going to affect how people get loans. we're going to see another catalyst of problems because the subprime loans were a result of all this money going out, and now we're going to penalize the spanks -- neil: well, and by the way, there were many hands in the cookie jar. >> exactly. neil: under a variety of administrations. >> since carter. >> it's such a perverse argument you're making, it proves the

point, it truly does. neil: you would not penalize? >> well, wait, no, i would penalize -- neil: without knowing where that money goes? >> i would like to know. neil: no one knows. >> i think you're right. neil: you like 'em anyway. >> let's talk about the penalties. if they do something wrong, your argument is don't penalize them. if they're doing something to hurt the consumer, don't penalize them -- there these are competitive penalties. >> that's ridiculous. really? >> $21 billion between two banks this year alone? and in 2013 we had $8 billion collectively across the board, you're going to tell me there's a balance here? >> when a bank rips off your grandma, can it be -- neil: let's say that happens, and in many cases it does, at the behest of the government that says you have to lend to anyone with a pulse, should there be any price to pay for the politicians who pushed them to do it -- >> well, fair enough. neil: very smart banking guys found a way to package that and collateralize that and make money off that. >> first of all, the government did not tell them to create

subprime. neil: no, the government actually -- [inaudible conversations] >> the government did want them to ec pabled home lending -- expand home lending, i completely agree. not the obama government, by the way. >> no, guy we you. >> that should be pointed out. >> but the government never said to credit rating agencies you should give aaa ratings to these crappy loans. neil: do you remember what happened after the meltdown, that everyone piled on the banks? >> i do. i'm very old. i remember everything. neil: for going crazy and lending too much, and then when they held off for ripping them a new one, you're not lending enough -- >> [inaudible conversations] >> i'm not condoning the activity. i'm just saying are they the only sinners? >> no. i wouldn't -- >> that'll -- neil: where does that reward money go? >> well, you keep asking that question. neil that'll and you don't know. so you want your pound of flesh, but -- >> no.

the premise we're talking about, i agree with you. done. you're absolutely right. we should know where that money goes. you hear that, everybody? but we don't. >> but we should also direct the conversation to consumers as well, rick. >> you're not going to persuade me that we shouldn't punish banks who do things wrong. [inaudible conversations] >> this debate isn't punishment, it's about the excessive fines. when you start looking at $8 billion for one year total and two banks now getting 21 billion between the two of them -- >> what would you have fined? >> there's plenty -- [inaudible conversations] neil: i wish i had more time, but i know all this makes me hungry -- [laughter] and i do know that i'm going to go to tgi friday's because it's now offering endless appetizer through the summer. not an all you can eat buffet, but i dare say i know what the appetizers are. you get chicken, you get those hamburger sliders. you're set for the meal. so, rick, smart move? sign of desperation? >> of course it's a sign of desperation. this is a 40-year-old concept in restaurants. the world passed them by a long

time ago. neil: what passed them by? >> come on, you've got chipotle, all these modern era fast food places -- neil: do they have all you can eat appetizers? i think not. >> i tell you, i've got three hungry kids at home. neil: i think it's brilliant. what say you? >> i have three hungry kids, and fried mozzarella sticks will be -- neil: they don't have to be kids, by the way. [laughter] >> how old are you, neil? neil: exactly. >> i do think that friday's is looking at demographic changes and trends in eating and restaurants, and we're saying, hey, we've got to do something. i suspect that it will have some similar effects in cities around the country. >> try changing your theme. >> it's bigger than that. it's so much bigger than that. this is a reflection of the economy. someover our upscale restaurants have not been suffering, but restaurants catering to the middle income, it's also olive garden and red lobster, we're looking at 48% increase in food

staffers, 20 percent increase in people on disability, gas prices going up 100% concern. neil: wait a minute, what does that have to do -- >> because they have to cater, they have to pull that market back in because most of these people are staying at home and cooking dinner. >> really? neil: wait a minute, that headaches very good sense. you're saying they gravitate to -- >> all of the middle income restaurants' reports have seen a huge decrease in revenue coming in. >> not true. >> middle class americans are not going out to dinner like they used to. their median -- neil: if you had an all you can eat appetizer buffet? >> oh, i'm back in. i'm back in. neil: someone always guards the prime rib counter. that's the one you gun for, folks, because they guard it, and i say i'm not leaving until you step aside. >> i think they're making more money than ever. >> chipotle is not a sit-down restaurant. that's walk through, grab as you go. >> i've sat down -- [inaudible conversations] neil: he gravitates to a mexican

restaurant. >> absolutely, i love it. >> there's no waiter or waitress at chipotle. there's no waiter or waitress. >> there's always appeal to the after work happy hour crowd -- neil: thank you. let's not make this a social nightmare. >> now they're saying how do we bring those people back in. neil: thank you. >> can we go yet -- [inaudible conversations] neil: i'm just warning all you folks watching, stay away from the prime rib. clear the way. when we come back, do you ever wonder what's going on with these busloads of illegals coming into california? the government says we couldn't even see them. really? you could see rocks on mars, but you couldn't see this?

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neil: they are not immigrants, they are illegal aliens. immigrants come here to live and prosper. my solution is simple: put them on planes and send them to washington d.c. mara via comcast: immigrants should be bussed to the white house. tina e-mails: put them on the south lawn. they must know a thing or two about the wisdom of having a fence period. alexander in rhode island: this is a well-planneddal bebe it whistle operation. obama knows that and knows what he's doing, and his long-term goal is to create chaos and then take charge of it. never let a crisis go to waste. all these illegal aliens get free medical treatment, our veterans can't get treatment, this is so wrong. very good point, don. rick e-mails: send them back where they came from.

carol in michigan, neil if the buses go north, they can also go south. send these illegals back. patrick i via hotmail, i hate tt these women and children have nowhere to go, but this is an illegal act. maybe they should hold these people as accountable as they do u.s. citizens. tony in florida: this is all an attempt to give those immigrant children some sort of legal status so that in the future the democrats can bring in their parents, relatives, etc. and give them u.s. citizenship and more votes. lawrence via gmail: as sheriff arpaio stated, he releases them, and they keep coming back. the only thing that is going to stop illegals from entering the usa is killing them and stacking their corporations on the mexican side of the borderline. i don't think we're at that point, but i suspect what the sheriff was advocating was something a tad difference, working with mexican authorities who he says we've not even been reaching out to.

in maine favors such an approach. sheriff joe arpaio is correct, the u.s. government should go to mexico city and begin a joint effort to control our borders. what is the big deal? the u.s. government goes halfway around the world to work with the governments in afghanistan, pakistan, yemen and iraq to give military support to protect their borders, why not mexico? that's an excellent point, bruce, why not mexico? russ via verizon: neil, i agree with sheriff after pie owe. it has been the president's plan all along. i can't understand why border agents and customs don't stop these buses full of illegals at the boarder and turn them around. why are buses allowed to even cross the border? believe it or not, ruby, and you have to take them at their word, they say they miss these buses. they don't see 'em until it's too late. i know, big buses, they say they miss 'em. sharon in louisiana: what does watching -- washington understand if they're so ignorant they don't understand the meaning, then they need to

be replaced by individuals who do. caroline, south carolina: as a former hospital administrator, i have a great fear that we are dispersing children throughout our country who have not been medically screens for potentially devastating illnesses that could once again get a foothold in the u.s.. jim in south carolina: neil, as the man said on tape, i'm expected to obey the law. why don't the illegals and why doesn't government have to obey the law? excellent points, both. allison via aol: i think that if you or i were to try to get into another country illegally, more than likely we would be shot. more than likely, allison, i think you're right. even in france. in fact, in france they do shoot you. go figure. rick via gmail, why can't you learn how to shut up and listen? you constantly interpret your guests. very irritating. rick had other things to complain about, but i just deleted the rest of the e-mail because i was hungry and i

couldn't deal. carla e-mails, you sound callous to me. you sound clueless to me. steve, what if we turned your parents away at ellis island? you seem to have a double standard. no, steve, just illegal immigrants. my parents went through a process and a very laborious process. if everyone barged into your house for dinner, let's say thousands just banged at your door, would you feed 'em all? cameron writes: i don't know about you, cavuto, i but i'm a christian and believe in helping my fellow man. so am i, cameron, but not at the expense of all legal men and women. life is unfair, you're a bombastic charlatan who's regrettably a citizen. you're regretly a citizen too, like you said, life's unfair. doubly unfair to me is that you watch this show. stop it. you strike me as a rude, only pows jerk, and you're fat too. i am not fat. joan in biloxi: cavuto rhymes with zero. no, it doesn't, joan.

cavuto, zero, it doesn't. say it a few times. maybe you're drunk and you just slobber the words together as you no 40 doubt were typing them together, but they don't. that'll do it here. ♪ ♪ >> they're spending more time, mond manpower than we ever thought possible to spy on you because, let's face it, they don't trust you. sometimes when you're trying to keep a country off them, you have