that is why you should go with the texas road house which is up 20% again in one year. >> and what do you say? >> well, it had a split stock, brenda, so stay away from one, brenda. >> and neil is next. big things of letting d.c. spend more of this, and do you see anything wrong with any of this? i'm neil cavuto, and congress is in slow motion to find a solution for the v.a. and shock of shocks. now they are calling for the speeding things up, but guess how? by bringing back ear mamarks tot it all on spending, and pork spending or targeted spending and still green and we don't ask, and still a problem that has pretty much everyone here seeing red. ben stein and david mcdowell are back along with charles payne and adam lashinsky and we

have -- where idaho, he is coming back? >> well, i was in idaho. >> it is one of the live reports, and we were taking the over/under whether he was going to be mowed down, but he will be back next week. all right. let's speak about this charles payne, and here we go again. >> yes. >> and now, maybe sh, the earma are the way to mark it for the v.a. and the v.a. problems will go away. >> well sh, we know that with respect to the budget, it has grown dramatically and the president, himself, bragged about how much money has been thrown at the problem, and the serious problems is of course structurek and the lack of leadership, and really the lack of accountability, and money is not going to make that better, but make it worse probably. they have to figure out how to

honestly fix this thing, and whether it is free market solution, and whether you dismantle it and make it free market, it is something that a lot of the politicians h in washington are not wanting to happen. >> and i want to talk about the earmar is explained to me at least with the earmark, you know where the money is going, fine. but you know from the prior market experience, it is wasted. so are we to feel anymore competent and confident that it is going to the v.a., because with the $158 billion budget, they are not exactly on fire. >> well, it should not make you feel more con i if dent that the money is going to be more well spent, but it is going to speed up the spending at the v.a. and affairs theres stheres. and it is central control in the last decade or so, and subsequent democracy where the regional area lost control and moved back to washington.

some of the money, the cbo estimate came in on the house side of this bill coming in lower at $35 billion, and so to give the veterans access to private care rather than waitin waiting, and that is well spent, but an overall reorganization of the v.a. needs to happen. >> ben stein? >> le w it is interesting. there is such a thing as lear g learning. i argued against privatizing the v.a. care, but i am convinced by gas pa reno and others on the show that the way to go is to convert it to the free market system and give them vouchers or money or money substitute so they can go to their own doctors. i think that the problem is bureaucracy, and i, myself, would not want to be treated in a bureaucracy and the veterans should not be unless they want to be. so give them vouchers and let them spend it themselves, and we will get better care in a free market. of course, there has to be some accountability, and standards and fees, but let's go to the free market solution by all

means. >> to clarify here, you have agreed with something that charlie gasparino has said? >> yes, of course, it is easier since he is not here. >> adam? >> let me bring you back to reality, then and daygan as well. we are talking about the veterans who are fighting in the armed forces and going to work for us, and this is a political topic, and earmarks are an appropriate way to spend money. we can take the money that we got, and get it more quickly to where it belongs to solve this political problem. this is a screw-up, and everybody agrees, it is a terrible screw-up so it is appropriate to behave politically with the money. get it to the veterans to get the care improved quickly, and then talk about vouchers and structural reform and what not. >> you can get them vouchers

quickly, but adam, there is a reason that america has rejected the earmark, because it is opening up a pandora's mark, and it is free for all and bridges to nowhere and all about looting washington. we can get the money quickly, and that is what we need to do is to blow up the structure of the v.a. and make sure it never happens again. >> i love how adam talks to us, like nap ncy pelosi would. like we were told a lie and living in a fantasy land as to what is go g ing on in the v.a. >> right on, sister. >> the budget for the v.a. has doubled in the last ten years or so, and the patient caseload is up 30%. so to a large expert tent t-- large extent the money is there, but mismanaged. >> the money that the v.a. already gets is $158 billion. >> billion! >> isn't that what i said?

billion. >> yes. it is a staggering sum, and almost unbelievable sum. >> and this is why charlie hates you, because you interrupt him when he is making a profound point. >> well, he hates me, because i mistakingly think that i was born rich. at least by age 2. >> well, what we have not understood is how the system got as broke as it is, and the argument now of spending more money is that republicans are selfish or heartless or callous, and i have heard the argument and again and again. >> and you will hear it again and again on a variety of issues, unfortunately, but we ant t want to make sure that $158 billion with the "b" is prioritized. >> and what about the -- >> well, to dagan's point, you

act like we are uninformed about the problem or nobody cares about the vets, and i understand that, but we are interest ed in taking care of the vets now and in the future so that it does not become a problem again. >> for clarity, i am not saying that the republicans or that you are taking this position out of a perspective of not caring for the veterans. i did not say that. i agree. the form is screwed up. >> you said that and then you wanted to end up in the land of oz. >> oh. >> the reality being that earmarking money in a legislative process is not a ridiculous way to get the problem solved quickly. i'm not suggesting that we don't care. >> well, whether it is earmarked or nose marked or leg marked or whatever, the point is that no matter what washington does to dispense and disburse cash, it is always our cash and always

misallocated and always wasted and driving up the debt. that is merry-go-round that we have got. >> it is not always. >> 99.9% of the time. >> well, it is not right or fair. and take the military as an example, and we have the world's most powerful militaryk and we spend that money well, and we waste some of it. but we have to continue to do our best and not take the system apart. >> well, if the system is not working. go ahead, ben? >> do you think that anybody here does not want to do our best? what are you talking about? what does that mean? >> it is a question of tactics. we can't throw up a voucher system tomorrow. you can't do it. >> e shnot saying that tomorrow, but if you have been saying, adam, we don't have enough time to get to you for the next two to three years, veteran, but the hospital across the street will get to you maybe next month, and here is a voucher to do that.

obviously, a process in place, and get it assimilated and what is wrong with that? >> well, the local congressman or congresswoman may help you quickly here, because that is one of the things that they are supposed to do which is to talk to constituents. >> and even if we prioritize it as charles suggested, the cost of running the program is going to be a huge issue, even if you did a partial privatization like medicare for example where it is a government running an insurance program, that is, again, that thing is going broke in about 12 years or so. >> so to the break now, did this billionaire just say that we should take away full-time jobs so everybody could be happy? it

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saying he had not slept in more than 24 thundershowers. billionairs say the darnest things. >> for our next contestant i give you larry page, and founder of google and that has not stopped him from chiming in on your life. >> the idea that everyone needs to work frantically to meet the people's needs is not true. i was talking to richard branson and talking about the jobs in the uk, and so he has been trying to get people to hire two part-time people instead of one fu full-time, and at least the young people can have a halftime job rather than no job.

it is slightly greater cost for the employers, and i was thinking that the extensionf of that is that you have widespread unemployment or global unemployment, you just reduce the worktime. >> and talking to richard branson. and telling him, rich -- my screen doesn't work. all right. when you are a billion naaire, can drop the names, and maybe 10 or 11 years ago, nothing. nobody would talk to him. and now, now he has everyone talking to him. but i have ben stein. ben, what did you make of that? >> well sh, you know, when i wa talking to warren buffett about this the other day, he said that there is no reason that you should be working so hard. just let the dividends flow in, and sit back and go out on your yacht and so forth. what a ridiculous thing to say, and incredibly condescending sneering thing to say. what a joke. i mean, most people do need to work as many hours as they can

to pay the bills and feed their families and themselves housed and fed. it is so ridiculously condescending and joke, and this is an idea floated in the great depression, and idea floated forever. it is a ridiculous idea, but i guess in the worlds of multibillionaires, you never have to say you are sorry. >> all right. i will put you down as a maybe on it. >> and dagan, talking to my friend rupert murdoch, and i'm telling him, rupp, here's the idea, i want to work half as much, and get paid just the same. and tell us your thoughts. i can see him doing this with my contract, and you know the point is really? >> well, i have toed a a mitt i get this, because i have always wo worked for the companies where all of the employees worked themselves to the bone. and they loved it. because they loved the jobs. so i understand that it is coming from the not just the rich person, but somebody who

comes from the tech industry where the guys who start the companies and adam can correct me if i am wrong, but they live and breathe the businesses and sleep under the desk and rarely sleep. so -- >> they don't want the minions to do that, because they might be trapped. >> well, it is higher standard of living that working less is a sign of a prosperous nation, and the average work week in 1850 was 66 hours a week or something like that. >> and you go back to 1850? >> 66 hours a week. >> i am thinking of that, adam, and thinking, what the heck are they saying about the benefits then of all of the other workers to come in to fill that gap that it would improve producktive ti, and he -- productivity and help others coming in? >> well, no, there is no method, because google is in the business to replace all of us at

work. they have taken over 9 or 10 robot companies and they want to take us over, and so the first thing that you do -- >> i think that they will not take over the news. >> well, they better have better grooming than those two guys. did you see brennan page? well, he should be happy to be a billionaire because with eyebrows like that, he would never have a woman. >> and being a billionaire breeds -- >> well, you know, you get accustomed to the low hours, but you have him making an acquisition every week, and insatiable desire to get faster, and strongest and so richard branson who has started a mil y million businesses is e telling to us show down? are you kidding? >> and so, you know, you can cut back and bring in the other workers, and the hardworking types like yourself, they

conquer the world? >> well, the larger point he was trying to make is that historically, already the case that we can have similar standards of living without working for as hard as we have for so long, and that is basically true, regardless of how it sounded. >> no, it is not. it is not true. >> no, it is not true. >> i wanted him to say it again. >> i said that we can have similar standards of living while working less over time. i'm talking about in the aggregate. >> how about you work half as much, will you -- because that is what he is saying. >> because of the efficiency, and because of the produck tuf ti and because we don't have to go out there to pick the food ourselves for example. >> i have never picked food in my life. i mean, i go to the grocery store. i see what hostess has, and i don't understand you. well, we want to take a quick break here, and up next, have the greenies gone nuts? they say they are out to save the planet, but are they about

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this is what happens when people work half the normal hours. would you want a lego with greenpeace teaming up with shell using the logo on toys. >> i don't know where to begin on this one. >> start somewhere. >> sometimes wonder what does greenpeace use when they take ships and ram them into fishermen and other people trying to make a living around the world. do they use oil, water? what exactly are they using to fuel their campaign in the first place. it is a hypocrisy, it is ridiculous. >> who are they reaching with this. >> they're trying to put pressure on the company not to get in bed with shell oil or any oil company. but if you're teaching -- >> lego characters get in bed -- that's another issue.

>> how do kids get to school, do they fly on an albatross, on a magic car, no, they get in cars and drive. where's your fuel come from, boom, lego land. >> adam, you love movies and spots like this. your thoughts? >> i already had the song in my head from my daughter singing it, that's a true story. i don't have anything against shell oil or against oil companies, if you're in an organization that does, and thinks they're evil, this is a perfectly good and clever marketing campaign to go out. i think it is clever of greenpeace. >> ben stein? >> carl marx said history repeats itself, the first time it is tragic, second time it is comedy. greenpeace use to be an incredibly important brave group, rainbow warrior boat was an amazing boat and crew, they fought against nuclear testing in the pacific and killing

villagers. they used to be great people, now they're a joke. >> how did they start out? what were they doing? >> they were protesting french nuclear testing in the south pacific that was killing micronesian villagers. they bombed one of their boats and killed villagers. >> okay. bottom line, the doing of the lego character, they're trying to engender it, legos, popular theme for movies, toys, kids. is there a multiple agenda going on? >> greenpeace needs a better video ad because you agree with me, i thought that was a chocolate lake, not an oil spill. >> do you notice, no one looks bad as a lego character. >> everyone is the same size. >> which i love. if he were a lego character,

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