he was burned over some 60% of his body and blinded, lost his right leg and fingers, but we have him a beautiful home in florida that was built and he is driving. building homes for heroes.org. david: it's a wonderful cause. "the willis report" is next. gerri willis is giving consumers advice of one not to buy on amazon. gerri: that's right, a top 10 u.s. retailer, what to buy and what not to buy. americans are paying their bills so why is a boom time for debt collectors? we will have the details of a new report and also a frightening experience for 13-year-old. daughter and batter with us today. and if you like coffee and chocolate, we have some news for you. "the willis report", where consumers are our business starts right now. gerri: would we begin with what

getting the most bang for your buck. the cost of the fancy college degree keeps blooming higher and higher. but will their grad went a bit of salary to pay off the debt? a new last of the best colleges for your money is turning heads tonight with some schools you'd never expect. many of the names are not ivy league schools area kevin carey is the director of the education policy program and he joins me now with some surprising details. welcome to the show. you have written about this list which was a shocker, i have to tell you. harvard and princeton, not wanting to come how that money magazine, with this list? what were the metrics? >> the two biggest factors in the magazine factors were the total cost of going to a college spread out over four years or more if the students typically take longer than four years to graduate. minus whatever scholarships in

grant money that you look at and they also looked at darling. a lot of students have to borrow or student struggle to pay their loans that. so that was the cost side of the equation and then they look at how much money the graduates of each colleges, how much they are making in the job market within the first five years after graduation and then after more than 10 years of graduation. gerri: return on investment is everything in these people pay no attention to it at all. let's work our way through this list. it's interesting. this college offers just 1 degree. can you tell us about the school? >> it's an interesting school, it's unusual, there's only one thing you can major in command its business. so you have all business majors. it's in massachusetts, one undergraduate has an mba program also and they are very focused and apparently their graduates are doing well once they finish.

gerri: okay, so this college in massachusetts, just 2000 people, but here is a smaller school, the web institute with enrollment of just 79 student. why was this one recommended amax. >> two reasons, they are all studying naval architecture and engineering and apparently there's a steady job market for that. and they offer a full tuition scholarship to any student who enrolls. so costs are very low and the payoff is high. gerri: in my queue, mit. what did money magazine cnet? >> well, graduates go on to some of the most prestigious and high-speed jobs in the world and interestingly money magazine actually in their calculations statistically adjusts for the mix of majors that people major in. so they try not to penalize the college were a lot of people become public-school teachers

because we need public-school teachers and public-school teachers are not paid that well. so even though the mix of majors at mit includes a lot of -- engineering majors who are more highly paid, it still did very well on the money rankings. gerri: and we get to who you expect to see, princeton university, totally different issue here. why did they put it on this list >> colleges like princeton and harvard, they're not actually the most expensive colleges because those institutions have very large multibillion dollar endowments and they offer a lot of financial aid for lower and middle class students and they are not the most expensive colleges and candidly those colleges tend to be the pipeline towards high-paying jobs on wall street. gerri: stanford is also listed as a top school by lots of potential students out there.

but what do you say about stanford? is a deserve to be on the list? >> the promise of it is that you can, you know, get rich and get a tan at the same time, different ways to make a lot of money being in a cool silicon valley startup and inventing a new iphone application. gerri: finally we have harvard bringing up the rear in the top six here. the average annual salary $55,000 and i would've thought more. and maybe everyone is graduating with a history degree. what do you say? >> one thing to keep in mind is that this is self-reported data and it comes from a web cycle pay scale.com. and so there is a general sense that it is fairly accurate and it is not based on every

graduate and it doesn't include some of the people who will go on to be doctors and it only looks at those with undergraduate degrees. so again, the data is not always a good approximation. gerri: we would like to put that whole list of on our website at gerriwillis.com. it is interesting. thank you for being on the show. and i think you. gerri: here's our question tonight. our ivy league colleges overrated? vote on the right-hand side of the screen and we will share the results at the end of tonight's show. and from school to debt, according to a new study by the urban institute, one and three americans were 77 million folks are still behind on paying their bills and their accounts have been sent to collection agencies. we have more coming up.

i look at the study and i think how is it possible that a third of us are being chased by debt collectors. what kind of better be talking about? >> with a look that is whether people had debt that was so delinquent that it would be in collections. not necessarily that they are currently hearing from a collection agency and i think that the thing that you need to keep in mind. if you have unpaid bills even if they are a couple of years old were three or four years old, it may be they will get to a down the line and it doesn't mean that the debt has gone away. give him or the one with the other findings of the study that shocked or surprised you amax. >> i talk to the trade association for industry and said what kind of data are talking about because i was in this is early in urban institute study in what they said was the number one type of debt is medical debt and number two is what you were just talking about

which is student loan debt and these are very big issues for many people and i really just want to want consumers that if you have done to an emergency room or hospital or have expensive surgery, you really need to watch the medical bills as it's not unusual for them to slip through the cracks and if they do they can have a severely damaging impact on your credit report for the next seven years. gerri: you can have the best intentions in the world and if you miss one of them come you could be in big trouble and that the kind of thing people do lose track of when they are under pressure with health concerns. getting you to answer something because we have some data that is at odds. for example the credit card debt has fallen from 2008 until 2014, 659 billion and it would seem to me that things are getting better and not worse and get this new study seems to paint a very negative picture. >> some of that debt that is

still owed his debt that is in limbo and not yet in collections, but still sitting there from the financial meltdown and that's what i want to warn consumers about. i take questions from people and they are shocked when they hear from a collector about a debt that is four or five or six years old. not all of that mess has been cleaned up. gerri: what a rude awakening that would be to get something in the mail in court or otherwise with the debt that you had completely forgotten about. what is your advice for folks who think that maybe they lost track of some kind of debt and what should they do? >> if you're not checking your credit report and monitoring your credit score, this is a wake-up call.

you don't want to get in a situation where you're trying to refinance your mortgage and then suddenly you can't get the loan that you want. gerri: 35% less on average o 35f $5200 and that is in collections or about to go to collection that includes a ton of things. so thank you for being on the show. >> thank you. gerri: we have a lot more to come including your voice is important to us and that is why during the show we want you to send us a message or an e-mail at gerriwillis.com. and coming up next, is amazon or go to when it comes to online shopping? we will tell you which products you should shop elsewhere for.

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the retail giant doesn't always offer the best deals. so katie, welcome to the show. many people think that amazon is a low price leader. >> about half the time it is, which actually isn't bad. looking at about 5000 other retailers, about half the time they're good to go with the best price. gerri: let's talk about what is good to buy and what is not. >> under $10, you're probably good to go. >> are you talking about toilet paper and paper towels? household goods and buying in bulk is also a good thing on amazon. those things are bad. >> if you wrap in that free delivery, that's a great thing.

>> for two days they get free shipping on a bunch of items. gerri: so what should i not buy a? >> electronics, often not a good deal on a electronics. you can find a better deal elsewhere. and some are saying don't buy this. they're not the low price leader. photography supplies, cameras, things like that, and is as were the hugest savings are found. so these photography retailers are thinking that everyone's trying to take pictures with their iphone's and things like that and they are really trying to get people in the door. >> you regularly need diapers,

toilet paper, one of those things come if you buy that mostly come you can do something to save on amazon. you can do that when you schedule automatic delivery. so that can be a good deal for you. gerri: i like price points, it's a browser add-in. and then you say, okay, i want this and able to send you a little message and you won't have to worry. you can go in the store and scan the bar on red laser and say that this is cheaper on amazon or elsewhere. gerri: we have price grabber and savings and this is sort of like the revenge of the brick and mortar because they are actually scoring here. one detail about the study that is not entirely entirely entirely obvious, the prices will take a one-time in there something out there called

dynamic pricing. so does that diminish the value of studying? >> it does a little bit. prices change every day on amazon. so i think that there's a lot of validity to that. gerri: trend is your friend. katie, thank you so much. coming up later in the show, imagine waking up to a scorched pillow things to your cell phone overheating. and next, we answer the question how do you do that with advice of small-business owners are comes to saving for retirement. we have the vice the need, please stay with us. you used to sleep like a champ - then boom...

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value bill to the business they can never sell it for what they want. >> that the biggest date because you think that you build it so much. do you often underestimate the risks and the customer relationships are based on the founding or you have an older client or your products are not as diversified. gerri: so people don't see how they can take it on the next generation? >> that's right, they don't groom that next-generation of leaders. and so as a result the value will go that much lower. gerri: these people all have numbers in your head about the hundreds of thousands of dollars and millions and you have to wonder how they got there. >> yes, you wonder how they got there and that is why they are wrong so often and why it is important to bring up a business valuation expert ahead of time. so if you are about selling your business in 10 years, bring that valuation expert and in 10 years in advance, that way you can

make the changes necessary to your business to make it more appealing to the buyer. gerri: what is the biggest thing they can do? >> once i retire, will my life and? humans are so wrapped up in this business, so much of their identity is wrapped up in running the business. been busy because of the business. swift veterans committee will think what will i do with myself. gerri: i think that that is right. what do the experts advise people they have that nagging fear in the back of the head. >> one of the things is to start transitioning now and think of it as a process, find your successors, start grooming them, some of your interests and keep yourself busy so that you can expand your circle and are not

just working. that way you can see that there's life after retirement and it doesn't just and wonder business and. gerri: you talk to financial advisors all the time. what do they say is the single biggest mistake that these operators make? >> one of the big mistakes is expecting that their business and their personal expenses are going to be continued to be funded by the business or they forget that the business picks up a lot of the expensive things. so they might think that you only need $10,000 per month for expensive things. but then they actually need 15,000 per month because that's taking up their travel and entertainment on their phone and the business is picking that out. and also the valuation is a big one. >> often asked is not a priority for them. a lot of them are afraid of the

market and they feel that they have a lot of risk in business, which is true, but you need to diversified and have some sort of stake in the market. gerri: thank you so much. coming up next, if you're looking for more advice on fixing finances them a listen the best, "the willis report" money coach will help you. visit my website and we are happy to tell us your story because we want to hear from you. and it's time now for a look at stories on fox business. things not looking so good for you, the company lowering its outlook for the year stocks closing as mixed as investors wait for economic reports this week. the u.s. releases the gdp for the second quarter and the fed wrapping up its two-day policy meeting. the jobs report comes out on friday.

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gerri: a possible safety warning after a young girl's cell phone was

byrne to a crisp it caught fire you were her pillow, welcome to you for coming on. ariel, with you, this just happened sunday, what occurred? help us understand. >> well, i fell asleep with my phone in my bed, then during sometime in the morning i woke up a smelt a burning smell, i went back to sleep, i woke up again. and it was like very strong. so i went looking for my phone, i turned one of my pillows over, i saw the burnt phone. gerri: were you scared? >> yes. gerri: i can't imagine how surprised you were to see that, did you know that phone was under the pillow? >> i did not. gerri: you didn't, so you were more surprised. what do you think when you saw it? did you think you know, is my phone broken?

what were your thoughts. >> the first thing was is like happened before was oh, my god it happened against but to a further extent. gerri: thomas, we're seeing pictures of this by the way, the burning of pillow, and fabric and beding that is messed up. thomas, your daughter called you at work. what went through your mind as she told you? >> i thought she had to be exaggerateed, she just wanted a new phone to be honest, i said phone, and i got home she showed me her bed. i was shocked. i felt -- physically sick. i can't believe this happened, you know, while we were sleeping, that you know, bed could have went up in flames. >> it could have gone up in flames, your daughter could have gone up in flames and your house. stakes were pretty high. now, tell me, slew heard from

sam shupblg -- told me, have you heard from samsung on this. >> they -- you know they asked if everyone was all right. they said they wanted the phone, so they could test it, they replaced the new phone and bedding, bot department got department of consumer protection askeds if you for the phone. >> you are talking about consumer financial protect bureau, they will take the phone, here is what samsung said, we're working to retrieve the product on investigate what happened, we strongly advise all customers follow guidelines for care and handling wireless batteries, their points is, that the battery in the phone was not their battery, and that at the end of the day, you are not supposed to have turn a pillow, what is your reaction to what they say. >> that is sounds like a cop-out to me, they know that this is a

second time the battery got overheated. and first time she burned her hand it was 4 months prior, we took the battery out. and put it outside, it swelled up. and there was a replacement battery, the same thing happened, ariel does not happen to sleep with a phone, she just fell asleep with it the fact that pillow was up in phone kept it from getting oxygen. gerri: ariel , what do you take away from this i know you love your phone, and however to talk to your friends and get on-line, but what do you take away from this experience? >> i shouldn't be using my phone all of the time, that could cause it to heat too much and catch fire. gerri: wow, what a story, let me tell you, thomas, i'm with you uif i have seen those that bedding i would have been upset

too. thank you so much for come on, let us know what happened we want to hear the rest of the story. tom and ariel thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. gerri: we want to hear from you, here is what some of you post on our facebook page about your question. are ivy league colleges overrated? >> i think it depends on what you are trying to achieve, an ivy league education should be of a higher quality. >> and larry writes, i feel they are overrated. and here is gilbert, since i went to a small college in louisiana, i can not measure if they are overrated or not but i am overwhelmed with the cost of the schools, they are expensive. and some of your e-mails on white house plan to forgive student loan debt. >> my wife and i worked or way

through college, no student loan, paid for it on barrel head, so now we'll be forced to pay for other people? and ron, agrees, absolutely not if students had say less than 2 those 0 gpa or made no attempt to pay or use the money for nonschool purposes what about parents having responsibility. >> and no body should be on the hook for student debt but the colleges, i have said before, colleges and universities are not institutes of education they are just plenty making institutes. it seems that more and more, right? >> we love hearing from you, send me an e-mail, gerriwillis.com. gerri: when we come back uthe white house war on coal mean higher prices for all of us. should you also expect to pay more at the grocery store? we'll tell you what foods you should watch out for, coming up. she inspires you.

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gerri: one ofs biggest coal fire electricity plans is set to close under strict new epa climate rules. the closure of arizona station and others like it, is renewing fears of a big spike in electricity prices for consumers as epa proposes another set of emission regulations, rich edison with more from washington. >> reporter: from arizona, and states like west virginia, they mine it, sell it, burn it. the environmental protect agency proposeing existing powerplant cut carbon emissions by 30% from 2, 00,% 2005levels by 2030. the epa says at most, these rules will increase electric bills by about 6 1/2%, opponents

say that is understateed, reverend u.s. chamber of commerce study citeing a similar regulation claiming billions added to bills nationwide, administration said that the report over states the cost of its regulations, those arguments played out in a hearing on capitol hill. and epa sessions in the country. >> i am frustrated by various groups that are trying to shut downs coal industry and eliminate those jobs out remorse or conscience. >> coal means that kids can go to school, and get an education and family can buy homes and put food on the table. >> epa, this is a mere lean in the right direct. >> reporter: epa is accepting public comments about the proposed rule until mid october, coal powers about 40% of the nation, and requiring each state

to cut emissions by different ache mounts. gerri: what happens next? >> epa considers these comments from public, and can change the proposed rule, in june, they are scheduleed to finalize regulation, and states would have to begin figuring you on how they will hit the emission target, the course system could derail that, several states are already suing the epa over the rules. >> rich thank you. >> reporter: thank you. gerri: well, from high price of energy on high price of your grocery bill, food prices on the rise, and for some of our favorite staples. chocolate, honey, coffee. these hikes may beginning. here to explain, phil of super market guru, thank you, phil. so, what are popular foods that we'll see prices go up? >> everything. gerri: oh.

>> get to that credit card how out, if you look at what ising about on in the weather in the world -- what is going on in the weather in the world that is a problem, we have more problem with pests in produce. we'll see prices go up, then just look globally, reports came out yesterday, about how australia now wants to import more u.s. beef, look at our price for beef. >> keep my beef here. >> we're sending it to australia and china, let's keep it here. gerri: i hate giving that up, so what is happening? is it the export of beef prices that have them at 30-year highs or more? >> a lot more, there is less cattle, a lot of cattle ranchers found a couple years ago they were not making enough money, they had shorter herds there are

fewer cows, nen then the droughn california that affected feed prices, and bottom line there are a lot of ranchers that say i'm getting out of the cattle, i can not afford it fewer cows, fewer cattle ranchers more exports on the way, and as a result we'll pay more, we have find new proteins. gerri: up 15% year-over-year. talk about avocados, i love those. and they do nothing but gets more expensive. production is to drop 40% are you kidding me? why? >> well not only do you love avocados but they are healthy for us. they are have vers versatile wee them but because of problem in mexico and california with the drought, with pests, there is smaller crops, also, let's not forget about whole immigration situation, in california, texas, and florida. we have nobody willing to come

over the border work for pennys to be able to you know get those crops to harvest. as a result of all of these factors, we'll see avocados, lettuce, tomatos, just about everything going up in price, and less supply. gerri: and st. russ price -- citrus prices, i cannot get a good orange to sraef m to save . >> forget about st. citrus, it started in 1995 in florida, citrus greening problem, it keeps on growing and growing, are right, a lot of oranges did not have flavor and tastes, a solution is we really have to rethink agriculture. we have to have more hothouse products, more celled environment products -- more controlled environment products andin agriculture work more closely with science,.

gerri: chocolate, so, mars and hershey are raising prices on chocolate, why? >> well, it is a staple. but it is cacao prices, whether it is coffee or chocolate because of the rains, and environmental conditions, we have less of it. and you know we have gotten very socially responsible, we want more fair trade products, which is a good thing, however, with fair trade comes higher costs, and higher prices, you can combine those and we'll see less economicaalal coffee, more cheag with coffee, robusto beans, and added into that sticks ans and twigs, we'll lose quality in chocolate and coffee and then higher prices too. gerri: i just' my snicker's bar,

a couple of ideas for saveing money. >> have that shopping list, never go shopping what you are hungry, and think about replacements, when you want that stake -- steak, maybe a smaller cut of steak, fill the rest of the plate with vegetables or another protein, seafood for example is less expensive, right now chicken is higher because of foster farms recall, and shine says they will -- shine is sayinchinaingimport chickens tot want to eatin chinese chickens,i will be eating seafood. gerri: keep it off our shore thank you. >> thank you. gerri: still to come, by two cents more, and you know it started as a joke but now jack brown earned -- jac zac brown ed $50,000 to do what?

make potato salad, are you kidding me? we'll be right back.

ampaign that is viral having many folks kick themselves for not coming up with the idea first, this month we had a man on the show raised big dough on web from visitors -- investors, to make a batch of potato salad. gerri: you don't even know how to make potato salad, and people gave you $43 thousand why? >> so i could learn how to make the salad, i posted 3 or 4 funny

jokes, and internet turned that to $60,000, i think that is strong, i don't know what that means. >> yep. and how much stkro do have you ? unbelievable. poe papotato pioneer zac brown k for seconds, i can not get over the story it makes me crazy, i don't understand. so, you are done? >> done on saturday. campaign ends saturday. gerri: then what? on it egg salad? where do you go from here? >> whoever said mo money fewer problems was wrong. you know, the next thing we have to do fulfill promises for our backers, then, we're planning a big charity events proceeds will go to a permanent fun of columbus foundation.

gerri: i believe for homeless is that right? >> yes, hedge skpe hunger and h. gerri: and last time you said you were having a big concert. >> yes, benefit show, called potato stock, on september 27 from noon to 8:00. gerri: have you booked any bands? >> a few local bands we're looking for a headlineer, headlineers out there who watch fox business come on. gerri: i'll make some phone calls. now, are your friends jealous that have you done this? are they trying to do the same thing? what has been impact for you, more broadly? >> well my friends have been doing it with me. since about first week they got involved. we've been making videos and putting them on-line, and having fun with it. gerri: and what do investors get? remind me. last time you could not make the popotato salad.

>> i still condition, they make potato salad, i read all names out loud while making the salad, and make hikis are a few backers and shirts and hats and recipe books. gerri: do you ever get a recipe? >> do have you one. gerri: i can share one if you want, but i thought, what it has been a couple of weeks you may have found one. >> i can surprisingly few recipes since in i assume i am now asking for it i will get thousands, but we've gotten a couple. gerri: zach where to? >> tweet @ztbrown. >> okay, not that hard, boil some potatos, and mayo and mustard, it is easy, thank you, zach. >> thank you. gerri: well, if you are looking

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