terror. friday at 9:00 p.m. i am kennedy and thank you for watching "the independents." ♪ ♪ lou: good evening, everyone. russian pladimi just reckless in both the ukraie and now here in the united states. defense department officials say that russian ground forces are carrying out attacks against ukrainian troops within ukraine itself and attacking u.s. banking system with hackers from within russia. fox news has confirmed from senior u.s. defense officials that there is now evidence that shows the russian military firing artillery from within ukrainian military positions.

there are many that are now fighting inside the ukraine with the help of tanks and heavy artillery despite the constant the mouse from vladimir putin. and we have new evidence of russian aggression in the ukraine. >> we have received reports showing residential areas and we have seen a reports of heavy fighting near the city and airport. and these incursions indicate eruption directed out offensive is likely under way and clearly that is of deep concern to us. lou: you will remember the latter kunin had 298 civilians that were killed and there were those crossing the border into the ukraine in an intercepted

phone conversation with russian intelligence that proved otherwise. and also tonight, reports that the fbi is investigating the breach of the u.s. banking system according to those reports, russian hackers attacked and successfully infiltrated jpmorgan chase and at least one other unidentified major bank over the past two weeks. the russian hackers were able to obtain gigabytes of sensitive data, that according to jpmorgan chase officials but declined to be identified. the fbi identifying breaches possible retaliation for western economic sanctions levied against russia. the fbi declined to comment with the investigation ongoing. we will be cooking all this up and we have reports that president obama is considering whether to broaden u.s. assault against the radical islamist

terrorist group some of the islamic state. they have had the full support of latter kunin, bashar al-assad the same dictator that the president including pursuing the islamic state into syria is being prepared for the president's consideration by the end of this week. the u.s. military carrying out new airstrikes against the islamic state targets and a rock. this is a new report that appears to debunk the idea that the islamic state just recently became a military threat to the united states and to its allies in the middle east. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge has our report. >> the group isis or isil has

taken a strategic approach according to a new new analysis. the assessment published in the combating terrorism center at west point, an independent and privately funded research group said they did not suddenly become effective in early june of 2014. reporter: the group's leader rebooted the organization in 2010. and with car bombs like in baghdad, they assassinated had assassinations at the checkpoints. >> they are weakening, giving them the freedom in the room and with iraqi security forces under pressure since early 2013, the

report says that trained fighters have shifted from syria to iraq. saying that they frequently absorb old militant networks into its ranks is what might be termed as a merger and acquisition approach. iraqi security forces used armored vehicles as a show of force to intimidate opposition. the network learned from this mistake during the bush administration's search for. >> we know it is connected to al qaeda and iraq. the former core of the insurgency. reporter: with the confirmed death fighting alongside them, it is split. some argue the american was not so highly valued but he was scared of fighting on the frontlines. they say he laces recruits according to their abilities. >> these organizations will make the determination and put these asset where they are most effective. reporter: analysts say the loss of leadership like the one launched by the u.s. against al

qaeda could have a debilitating effect on the group, adding it would likely struggle to hold ground. lou: peter curtis thank everyone who had worked to free him. >> i had no idea that so much effort was eating extended on my behalf. >> i am glad that you are back and save, everyone said. lou: the group is a sunni extremist group.

that includes the islamic state group, and they are still holding journalist who has a mother that spoke out on behalf of her son. >> they have no control over the actions of the u.s. government. and i ask you to please release my child. lou: the islamic state holding to it humanitarian aid workers. while there is great uncertainty about the presidents next moves on syria, it appears that he knows exactly what to do when it comes to so-called climate change. "the new york times" reported the obama administration is now working with world leaders to reach an agreement on the reduction of carbon emissions in a deal that would allow the president to circumvent congress

and the constitution we have shannon bream with the reporter. >> the obama administration is working for an international deal on climate issues, though hedging whether or not it claims to make ahead run around congress. >> anything that will go to the senate should go to the senate. >> it would require the two thirds of the senate. >> the past record has shown that the white house has a narrow view of what must go to the senate. the white house return to a familiar argument that the president may have no choice but to act unilaterally. >> nothing is going to happen unless you work with the senate

and congress to actually implement some climate change legislation. >> the 12 warmest years have all come in the last 15 in the last year was the warmest in american history and all weather events are affected by it. more extreme droughts, fires, and hurricanes four last year marked the coldest and three fourths of the u.s. will see below normal temperatures next winter. >> terrorist, epidemics, weapons of mass destruction. the climate change brings right up there. >> thousands are being tortured and murdered by extremist groups

from nigeria to iraq and skeptics from both sides of the isle are questioning why the administration is so focused on climate change. and that includes house democrats who says that he will do everything he can to stop what he is calling elitist end run around congress. lou: shannon bream reporting. much more on the president global warming plan. we will be taking it up with matt patrick and richard fowler coming up. we are coming right back. former army general jack keane on the obama middle east policy and the islamic

seal on an open-ended cease-fire between israel and hamas is holding after seven weeks of conflict. in which more than 2200 people were killed. benjamin netanyahu says it was too early to say whether the combo into her. he also threatened hamas with a more vigorous response from this wasn't new video posted on youtube. the shows the iron dome simultaneously destroying 15 hamas rocket. from the more than 4500 rocket bile that israel since the beginning of the conflict. fifteen rockets simultaneously

destroyed. the obama administration supporting possible airstrikes in syria with the uk and australia willing to join a coalition. officials asking turkey to seal off its border with syria in an effort to stop the flow of product to the islamic state. so let's turn first to the purported next couple of days and a plan that is to be created for the president's consideration and your reaction to that development. >> i applaud it and we haven't stepped in the right direction. we should conduct airstrikes and

the more we can get to participate the better in addition to the uk and australia i would hope that they would get some of the regional allies that could also be threatened by isis eventually. this is a big step and we don't know if the president will make that decision. he has made these decisions before and backed away. i know what the military is doing we have a plan along those lines. lou: in regards to the united arab emirates, or thoughts about them, and this includes the forces that we are about to engage. >> i totally disagree.

the saudi arabians have been up to this for so long. i think that we should have to clamp down with our allies and get them to knock it off. they have sons and particularly in the beginning and they have done some other things for us and with us. once and for all we have to get a cooperative effort from our regional allies to pull together the work against this organization. lou: we have a huge airbase there and we are building a relationship with the country and they are supporting the very people which we are fighting and

we seem to have lost sight of this as a superpower that needs to exert our influence on behalf of our interests for the good of the world. >> i totally agree with you. we have moral principles that guide us in our actions around the world and this is the united states of america and we have very strong values and we believe in them. we should not be looking the other way. we know for a fact that they provide assistance to hamas and they have been doing that for years. those rockets that rained on israel by the thousands are directly linked to the funding that came out of that country. we should not look the other way. we should remove those that this behavior doesn't change and we do a lot of business and a lot of american businessmen, we have to take the gloves off once and for all.

>> speaking of morality, how immoral if it for us to continue this with a regime that supports terrorism against our allies as well as ourselves and there seems to be a time when this nation just asserts its values and if not now, when. >> i totally agree with that. these challenges have been out there for some time and we have been turning our heads and not facing up to them. clearly with what rush and ron are doing with bashar al-assad and 200,000 dead now, millions of people displaced. that is a human catastrophe that is taking place there and off the front pages in terms of american media. but it should not be. and we should have dealt with that situation.

lou: the united states is being challenged by china as well. >> i think that that is true. our adversaries are taking advantage and they perceive that america is pulling back since world war ii that transcendent. they see this more in our words and our actions and they pay attention to it. and they take note that united states is decimating the

military. and that military is needed to support our economic and global interests. and that clearly emboldened our adversaries. lou: general jack keane, it's good to see you. >> always good to talk to you. lou: a time for a look on our online poll results. should obama seek congressional approval and any u.s. air strikes that could be conducted against islamic state targets in syria? 87% said yes are you 13% said no. be sure to vote on our poll tonight. the question, do you believe that the united states and russia are now progressing towards an outright military conflict? we would like to hear your sense of the direction of things, cast your vote at loudobbs.com.

coming up next, my commentary on the young senator who found a new way forward. stay with us

lou: coming up, stonewalling at the internal revenue service at the white house. we will be talking with the attorney that is representing some of the conservatives that the arab press targeted. and president obama talking about climate change initiatives. richard fowler joins us tonight. and now a few comments on our young republican senator who isn't afraid to change his mind when new realities emerge. the senator is marco rubio. the same fellow who upon stepping into his senate office for the first time, was immediately and instantly hailed as an indisputable luminary in the presidential hopefuls and possibles.

before a place can be reserved for him, he fell victim to naïveté and hubris. he was slated to join up with a combination of other senators. republican and democrats seeking the path to so-called immigration reform. or as it is more accurately understood, amnesty. slightly slippery to the left, chuck schumer held the centers senators under his spell. but the house of representatives broke the spell and saved the country and even a few of the senators including marco rubio who is much the wiser for the experience. the former gang of eight individual has shared some wisdom in a letter to president obama saying that after the experience of the last 18 months, i have become convinced that there is no realistic path

forward on a comprehensive immigration reform for the foreseeable future. senator marco rubio is not only free of this evil and grace, but he now recognizes the house house of representatives superior immigration reform to securing our borders and reforming our immigration laws and enforcement. the incremental approach to immigration reform that i have supported here for the past two years. he also warned president obama against taking executive action on amnesty. the senator said that it would close the door to any chance of making progress on immigration with warm in the foreseeable future. according to "the washington post" more than doubling the annual ceiling of 366,000 green cards. even though we already bring in a million people each year as

permanent residents. president obama also considering, we are told, an additional 200,000 visas for high-technology workers. even though the shortage of workers is actually a myth. and that the number of science and technology and engineering and math that immigrants submitted each yearhere in this country is 20,000 students higher than the 105,000 created each year. "the new york times" today reported that republicans have a 67% chance of winning the senate this fall, compared to winning just two days ago. i believe another obama run around this congress and our constitution will take that number to very near 100%. now the quotation of the evening. this from the nobel peace prize

winner george bernard shaw. progress, he said is impossible without change and those who cannot change their mind cannot change anything. senator marco rubio leading the charge. we are coming right back. the obama white house has exceeded in the irs scandal, so says our guest tonight. he says the obama administration has managed to delay and the rail and deceive. he is in court to make certain that the obama and ration sales ultimately in its

♪ lou: who will be taking up the irs scandal. first, on wall street of the record-breaking day but just barely. you see the s&p 500 at a new record high. up a fraction, but nonetheless

the second straight record. the dow moving up to 15 points. and nasdaq down. volumed, over 2 billion shares. if he did not know better you would think that summer vacation or just about over. a former federal reserve chairman says the 2008 financial collapse was actually worse than the 1930's great depression. court documents in which bernanke says five years ago to of of the 13 most important financial institutions were at risk of failure within a weaker to. meanwhile, the congressional budget office offering and makes forecast of our economy. the cbo says the combined deficit of the next decade will amount to about $400 billion less than the forecast back in april. with this fiscal year the cbo forecasts a deficit of 506 billion, smaller than previous years but still hefty. real gdp growth projected at

one-and-a-half percent down from a february estimate of 31. turning to the irs starting scandal, my next guest represents more than 40 organizations in a federal lawsuit against the irs and says the obama administration is doing everything that it can to stall its own the investigation. joining us now, chief counsel for the american center for law and justice. a pleasure. let me start with this back-and-forth nonsense about missing e-mails which we have said by the way on this broadcast from the outset according to our experts they were retrievable, were not lost, and it is pure bunk that has been spewed. and to find out that lawless of martyrs by jerry was destroyed, was wiped clean. somebody needs to go to jail here. >> a classic case of

obstruction of justice. by the way, our blackberry was cleared out after litigation had been filed in a companion case alleging targeting. and after the congressional investigations already started. the irs, brunt of justice, everybody was on notice but amazingly her computer crashes. they then say her documents are not retrieval. then, of course, you have the ambition, pursuant to a freedom of information act request there were discussions that there is a mass backup unit which we all know exist. too burdensome to get to. and then miraculously 41 and the fbi and department of justice and the president to per e-mails are wiped off of her blackberry. nothing there. no one can believe this. it is lying, lying under oath to congress. and when you look at this, what took place between the

lawyer litigating the case of, a companion case were a group that had been targeted, the lawyer that was representing the irs had actually been involved in the targeting when he worked for treasury and then went over to the white house counsel's office where he worked for the president. then department of justice. now he is also mysteriously no longer involved. this is a cover-up, and obstruction of justice of proportions we have not seen in my lifetime. lou: what is it going to take to get to the heart of this case? now the evidence is conclusive. i mean, to me. i am not talking in legal terms the head of the irs was supposed to be clean and then at -- and is as dirty as you can be. >> she went to congress. you are right we did everything we could to retrieve it. we were not able to perry that was not true. what is going to take is a call for special counsel.

there have been congressional hearings. i testified. a classic case. the department of justice is incapable of investigating itself. in fact, they are involved in this other scandal as part of this mess where they were part of an irs attempt to make criminal cases out of what they called -- lets pc it a false claim cases, fall supplication cases. no evidence of any fall supplications. what they were going to do, they were participating. the idea that the department of justice can somehow review itself is absurd. in federal court, and this is a good development. a companion case 12 very similar -- in u.s. district court judge has allowed the case to move forward. and in other cases the irs is being put on notice that no one including federal court judges are buying this destruction of evidence accident that the irs seems to still. lou: as you say, that is

good news and it is progress and it is positive, yet we have been now with the next development, pushed off to the month of october. still -- i mean, the american people have been staring them straight in the face. this government is corrupt. the internal revenue service is being used as a political tool, hammer. >> absolutely. lou: against innocent people is only problem was that they were on a different side of the political spectrum than the people running the internal revenue service. >> they exercise their first amendment rights of free speech. that was a government problem. you know, this points to a deeper problem. how are they getting away with this? a fact of the matter is, if they're is a change in the senate and the second start holding hearings as well and you have a house and the senate making demands that contains the entire scope. i don't think that the

attorney general can just ignore the reality of what would be bearing in on his department of justice. right now he is not acting like an attorney or a general. lou: we have been talking about this for years. about a year-and-a-half. the reality is nothing has changed. the facts of the same. we are just discovering more of them. the administration continues to cover them up, as you said. at what point does this dam break and the truth flow into the public? >> when we get our first discovery order. that may be months ahead get him but when the discovery starts and lois -- lois lerner is put under oath and asserts the fifth amendment. in a criminal case you can do it. in a civil case it means will we have alleged is true then you see a domino effect . frankly, i would be looking at giving her some form of immunity to get to the bottom of this.

i don't believe for a moment -- my first job of law schools a long time ago in the office of chief counsel of the irs. and i am proud of the agency has changed a lot over time. i tell you, the reality is this does not start and stop with lois lerner. this connection between this lawyer that was at the white house, the department of justice and that irs. all these people need to be put under oath. we know we've got. lou: thank you very much. we will be following you as we have throughout carefully. thanks. general motors showing economic patriotism shifting production of its cadillac crossover from mexico to a plan in tennessee. it is unclear what percentage of gm cars are being assembled by manufactured in mexico because they stopped providing information last summer. i am sure we will find out because i am sure general motors wants to be transparent about these things.

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♪ lou: president obama's sweeping executive action prospects on amnesty could come at any time. aides and allies predicting it will happen by the end of this month. joining us now, kansas secretary of state, author of numerous anti illegal immigration laws and the immigration reform institute counseled. do you think that the president is actually going

to do this? >> you know, i don't know. i think there's a pretty good chance. when he passed the original -- past as the wrong word. when he declared the original executive amnesty in june of 2012 it was our before his presidential reelection. we have another election coming up. he seems to be motivated by politics rather than law and the fear that he will probably try to do something similar. lou: you think you would get away with it? >> yap. you know, the first one, the dreamer direct june took -- june 2012. he has been getting away with it. i represent ten ice agents who have sued him. the directive violates federal law. he is ordering ice agents to break the law. we are tied up in procedural issues and the court of appeals right now. the wheels of justice grind slowly.

lou: we are watching the wheels of justice not grind very well at all. this is a joke. we are talking about urgency , immediacy and terms of the need for judgment and resolution. and the american justice system looks like some sort of third rate third world apparatus. i mean, this is a joke. >> our founding fathers never envisioned we would have an executive who is just so brazen in ignoring aloft. if you have someone willing to ignore laws as the current president is, i think are quotes are fairly quick to do with this level of lawlessness. lou: freedom in this case. our constitution apparently can't stand up to our modern test of time as well as law.

what in hell are we going to do here? >> we don't have a lot of options. one is taken to court. another is impeachment which it doesn't look like will happen. lou: everyone wants joe biden to be president. that's a brilliant idea. >> the third option is for congress to exercise the power of the purse where there would actually say mr. president we're taking away all the money from your department. lou: marker rubio now talking straight to the president saying don't do it talking about the fact that the house incremental approach is a wry wit ago which i have supported for two years. your thoughts about the conversion? >> it's great that he's no longer supporting the senate amnesty bill but he has been converting back and forth for a while.

i don't know where exactly he is, but the bottom line is incrementalism is fine as some of the early steps are great. as long as it doesn't lead step-by-step to amnesty. if you end with in this deal have yet another surge of illegal aliens just like the one happen right now. the current surge is because ofjune 2012 presidential executive amnesty. so when you send a signal to the foreign countries the we're going to let you stay in to my guess what, people come. lou: always good to talk with you. thank you so much. >> likewise. my pleasure. lou: we will show you something. we will explain what it is. that is pretty cool. we will serve you. and i know you will enjoy two of america's favorite radio personalities. that's all coming up here next. we will start with patrick and fowler.

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♪ lou: joining us, a houston news radio. talk-show host matt patrick. and richard fowler radio show. tillman, good to have you with this. let's start with you. the president moving to get around congress on climate change. i mean, it is an overt maneuver. the congress and the constitution. your thoughts. >> well, listen. i think the president has the ability to enact treason. the president is very clear that this is just going to be, you know, i step in the right direction. no rule of law. just in saying that we need to commit to finding a way to do climate change.

lou: you're really satisfied? >> yap. i think the president is saying we need to have a global conversation. lou: early on all of this nonsense. >> that is ridiculous. first of all, i have no idea why we have been talking about climate change. the president cannot constitutionally enter into a treaty with any country without the approval of congress. >> wait a second. >> golan. don't interrupt me. >> not ratified until congress ratifies it. >> he knows darn well congress is not going to even look at this. by the way, russia and india and these other, china, none of these countries are going to enter into any kind of agreement with the united states. the biggest countries belching fills into the air. they are laughing at us and we are screwing around with this well we have isil over

cutting the heads off of american citizens. that is where the president ought to be focused. lou: richard, the president on the islamic state, preparing for ma report due friday, i suppose. as best we can tell. the president then will make some sort of decision. why would you think there would not already be some significant analysis and a report, contingency plans in front of him given that they have been batting people by the dozens for the past several months. >> well, listen. this president is going to make sure he makes no international missteps. he is being very concentrated and cognitive about the decisions he makes when it comes to dealing with this pre their will be strikes. they will happen in syria. there are already happening. i think it's a step in the right direction. if you think about where we

were last year we would have, you know, bombed a sought. clearly. lou: he would look -- i mean, it's going to look pretty peculiar either way. he is allied with the man he said three years ago has to go. there will be fighting the islamic state. i'm sorry. go ahead. >> this president has no idea what he's doing. he as the joint chiefs of staff chairman who says there is no direct threat to the united states. we have people getting their heads cut off. think that is a direct threat to the united states. so what does that mean? and their planning to attack, which she should be doing. i have to get in bed with syria. i mean, this was the guy you said was a bad actor. this is what brought about us to keep his nose out of foreign policy.

he has no clue what he's doing. we knew what they were doing for years ago. >> with a second. lou: go ahead. >> his job is to be involved in foreign policy. policies at the end of the day if we were to follow last year we would've taken out syria. and we have somebody to make sure we can contain. lou: one little, if i may, if i may addendum. president obama went to congress seeking authority to bomb attack syria, not the republic. good to have you with us. good to see you. thank you both so much. i promise you, here it is. more than ten and and a half million dollars to bring this check out all for cool super complex thing to market making it the highest

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neil: think quick. what is difference between isis and al qaeda? isis has money, i'm talking 2 billion bucks worth of money. it generates 2 billion more bucks a day, every day. so i want to think al qaeda on steroids, then, we remember 9/11? that havoc cost about a half million bucks to pull off. no wonder former 9/11 co-chair tom kaine was telling me he