. neil: well, we might not have a strategy for isis, but it appears isis very much has a strategy for us. keep killing, keep infuriating, because news today, it keeps happening, yet again another isis video purporting to show yet another beheading of an american, this time journalist steven sotloff and this despite pleas from his mother last week to spare sotloff gruesome fate as james foley. growing concerns for another hostage, british captive david haynes in latest video all but cued up for the next killing to watch if president obama

doesn't cease and desist with attacks on isis. for president en route it a nato meeting, growing concerns is he won't come up with a plan, maybe europe will. brist an's david cameron promising swift action, the details are sketchy but the rage is not. especially now that we're coming to understand that this isis phenomenon isn't exactly a sudden surprise. indications that as far back as last year, the president was given a heads-up on isis' growing threat. president either ignored or refused the warnings. so much we don't know. to former bush 41 defense secretary ted babin who knows this much. we are behind attacking these guys. and very late in addressing these guys. secretary, your argument is not only do we not have a strategy, we don't have a clue, right? >> pretty much, neil. the point comes down to before we have a strategy, you have to

have a policy decision which you can base a strategy. the pentagon is sitting there as heavily armed fix-it organization, you want to bomb isis? yeah, we can do that. it's going take x amount of intelligence, y number of aircft and z number of weeks to do it. but the president doesn't make the decisions, and what he does is delay things again and again and again, he dithers, he's dithering on isis, dithering on ukraine, he's dithering on the south china sea. he doesn't make the decision recognize that necessary for the defense of america, it's interests abroad and allies, it's just simply really an abdication of power. neil: you would think, then, that isis terrorists would realize that and reward his indecision by not killing additional hostages. >> why? >> of course, why shouldn't they. at this point there's no penalty for not doing it. pinprick airstrikes aren't irbil and so forth he keeps

telling us are a humanitarian mission. we should be doing it. you and i talked about this two or three weeks ago. we ought to be concentrating on destroying isis, not any vehicle, no vehicle that flies its flag, no tank, no truck, no car, which is flying the isis flag should not be bombed. every single one of those things should be bombed quickly and the united states is the only power that's going to do it. if you look at ukraine, you look at what isis is doing, you see what the nato powers are doing, this week in the nato summit, they're putting forward a nato rapid defense force. a deployable force aimed at ukraine. neil: one thing that's been explained about isis, too new to have developed a strategy or plan. there are reports that as much as a year ago the president was briefed on the growing threat that was and would later become isis or isil, depending on the jargon you use. and that now, that wouldn't mean that for the better part of a year, the white house or

the defense authorities either igred this threat or thought it would go away, what do you think? >> i think number one it is enormously valuable, and shows what i'm talking about. if you don't make the timely decisions, the right decisions, you can't defend the united states, allies or interests. neil: so what do we do? a full-scale boots on the ground involvement, weedout, snuff out isis or what? >> i don't think we need to do that yet. what we need to do is as you and i have been talking about, need to get the air forces over, there not just the navy. you get every single vehicle that is flying an isis flag, any time two or more of the bozos get together, there ought to be a 250-pound bomb joining them in rapid order. that's what you do and the way to destroy their effectiveness. it won't destroy them entirely, it won't destroy their ideology. it's a very clear option that the president refuses to decide

upon. it's something he needs to do now. neil: does he do it with european allies? concerned allies? do it alone? what? >> he can do it alone, he needs to do it alone, it needs to be done now. it would be good to have allies brought around, but you can't wait forever. and the fact is the time that you take h a tremendous value. the enemy will make the decisions for you if you don't make them yourself at the right time. neil: unless something changes and soon, we'll keep witnessing the beheadings. >> absolutely, unfortunately, and we need to do what we can, everything we can to stop it. neil: ted babin, wise words, thank you, sir. reaction from fox biz all-stars. steve, obviously, you know, the angst builds when it looks like isis is sort of running roughshod here. of course, they have the advantage of playing off of these videos and playing off of

our fears and being like a needle in a haystack to find. what do we do? >> neil, i'm a big believer when you are strong, when you are weak at home, you're weak abroad. and when you're strong at home, you're strong abroad. that is a lesson that reagan taught us in the 1980s. neil: i don't know, danny pearl of the "wall street journal" was brutally beheaded in the midst of an aggressive campaign against al qaeda and the taliban to little avail. >> that's true. i think what's happened not just with isis but in russia and a lost the other flare-ups in the world, we're so weak at home, we don't have credibility abroad. and that's one of the reasons we're seeing so much turmoil around the world. neil: hadley, who steps in this power vacuum, if it's later proven, the president did know upward of a year ago that isis was a growing threat. so much of a threat i believe a year ago he was told al qaeda is anxious about these guys? >> well, there's no doubt in

anyone's mind now that isis is a real security threat to iraq, to the entire middle eastern region and the rest of the world. so americans at home are understandably sitting alat home, a very sad day for all americans, especially for the family of steven sotloff. thoughts and prayers go out to his family. thinking full of frustration with the president who seems to admit to us and to the rest of the world he has no strategy. i thought that was a huge mistake on the president's behalf. i don't know who fills that vacuum. he is our commander in chief and needs to rise to the occasion. neil: you know, the other argument is the president's strategy is what we're seeing to be very tentative and be very measured and not to respond to each and every brutal episode that tragically shows up on tape. that would be his people argue overreacting. what do you say? >> well, the former guest, the former undersecretary of state said the president's been dithering. that's not quite right. president has chosen not to pay

a ransom on each captive and so that's a choice, and we pay for that choice. neil: does it lead to the impression he's dithering. he says in press remarks we haven't come up with a strategy yet. that's true talking about isis in syria, but belied the point maybe he doesn't have a strategy for isis, period. >> that perception exists that he's dithering and he worries people. there are certain choice points that aren't publicized and behind the scenes. one of which is not have paid a ransom. at any rate, moving forward, he has as a perception and actual matter, i do believe he has to be more grace identify this, and i think we're going to see that. and another quick comment i'd love to make is that i hope on social media, the public doesn't share the videos, because it plays into isis' strategy. i have a friend who taught james foley as undergrad and it's horrific for the families and loved ones and people who know them to see the videos

played out. neil: steven sotloff's mom who last week pled for her son. steve, one of the things, the markets kind of shrug their shoulder at the tragic developments whether they come to expect or see them. i'm wondering if they do that to detriment. so focused whether the fed is going to raise interest rates or whether, you know, ukraine could blow up in their face, that isis in particular does not seem to be among their main, you know, fears, certainly a concern, but not full-blown panic attack. what do you think of that? >> i had the same reaction that you have of confusion about why the market doesn't seem at all disturbed about the events that are going on outside the united states and the middle east and elsewhere. you know, if you look bac at what happened on 9/11, when you had, obviously, this major terrorist attack on these soil, look at the stock market, look at theeconomy. this would be a major blow to

the economy if aside from the human toil, but in terms of capitalist system functioning, if you have terrorists around the world that are blowing up schools and blowing up buildings and blowing up department stores, i view this as not just a foreign policy issue but it is an economic and financial issue as well that we can function as a free market capitalist system, if you've got the lunatics abroad trying to kill us. neil: real quickly, hadley, we're unable to respond effectively at this point? >> that's right. you know, when we first saw that james foley was executed, i imagine a lot of americans thought how barbaric, certainly the united states is strong, exceptional country, the leaders of the world, we won't let this go unnoticed to. see a second video very disheartening to wonder what the response will be. neil: keeping an eye on all of neil: keeping an eye on all of this.

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the administration is playing down such a possibility while the head of the cdc saying the number of ebola cases is rising, expected to rise rapidly, but rapidly and dangerously? that's another matter. to dr. nina radcliffe who says we need to be prepared in the u.s. but not calling this a crisis just yet. why not? >> i want to say that our back to school checklist for college students got longer, in addition to making sure we have the right supplies and books, we want to reassure ourselves as parents that ebola has minimal risk. neil: how do we deal with that with a lot of international students who might not have been as closely scrutinized as you would think? >> that's the thing, i want to remind us it is a minimal risk. this is not as contagious as some diseases for example tuberculosis or the seasonal flu where it's airborne, this is transmitted when you have interaction with body fluids. blood, sweat and tears and very rare to come in contact. ebola wears a different hat in

the united states than other countries. neil: it has spread throughout the world. you are a doctor, and i watch medical shows, i think i qualify as an expert. in all seriousness one of the things that comes up again and again is diseases, plagues, they can mutate. >> they absolutely can. neil: what do you look for? >> we want to look for fever, headache, rash, nausea and vomiting. vague symptoms, this has to be combined with somebody who's traveled to one of these places that's endemic, that's the combination where we have an advantage over the third-world countries. additionally a lot of colleges establish emergency plans which can reassure us as parents there are plans in place. knowledge is power in the sense knowledge will help us rest better at night knowing they have emergency plans. it's not contagious when we don't have symptoms. and what we're worried about. neil: there is a 21 day incubation period. if you are coming from the

african continent, you are not exhibiting symptoms, you could. >> it's not like hiv or aids, you may look healthy but can transmit the disease to another person. when it comes to ebola, hayou have to have symptoms. fever, headache, nausea and vomiting. neil: we're not there yet. >> we're not thereet. >> can i ask you a dumb question, when we have the vaccine available that can treat this and known in a number of cases to stabilize the progression if not eradicate it, why aren't we being, better part of valor on the state side to have more available just in case? ig discussion. neil: would you do that as a doctor, would you advise that? >> advise overall general vaccination, not in this situation, not in the united states. neil: how about having more supply just in case. >> absolutely. this is not the first ebola virus we have. this is not the last one.

we will see this in the future but gain knowledge from this. none of the vaccines have been proven in humans, they have been shown in animal testing. we haven't gone to that level yet. neil: thank you very much. we are getting more news about the beheading of steve sotloff. the latest and the response after this. what do we do? musical chairs. fun, right? welllllllll, not when your travel rewards card makes it so hard to get a seat using your miles. that's their game. the flights you want are blacked out. or they ask for some ridiculous number of miles. honestly, it's time to switch to the venture card from capital one. with venture, use your miles on any airline, any flight, any time. no blackout dates. and with every purchase, you'll earn unlimited double miles. from now on, no one's taking your seat away. what's in your wallet?

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. neil: all right, elvita king is martin luther king, jr.'s niece, she is an author. we're bringing her on to talk about developments in ferguson, but then the tragic reality of these latest isis beheadings hit the news and the good doctor wanted to get a lot off

her chest. first off, you were telling me during the break, we have to realize these are not nice guys, huh? >> in king rule, build the beloved community. you cannot build a beloved community by putting young men in front of a camera and cutting their heads off. i'm 64 years old. and in america, one nation under god, in god we trust. have we been perfect? no. do we have our problems? yes to. have the leader of our country say we're no longer a christian nation. and i'm noticing that in all the reports we're hearing from the white house, we're hearing various answers, but where is the righteous indignation? where is the charitable answer? what about the geneva convention? all rules are gone now, and do we pontificate about we've done some strikes and we're having conversations, and yet young men are being killed and

beheaded before our very eyes. american young men. and so i'm just not happy. i'm a mother and a grandmother. i have sons and grandsons, this is very disturbing to me. neil: you know, doctor, one of the things that comes up in this discussion is that well, there's only so much we can do, and when you hear that, and that we don't have a strategy because we don't know how to deal with this because it's such an extreme crazy group, what do you say? >> all of our problems and america has had problems, of course, we've had racism, of course, we've had domestic issues, but we have been a charitable nation, we have been a compassionate nation. and to say there's nothing we can do mother, grandmothers, fathers, grandfathers, and we're doing what we can. neil: what do you think your uncle would have done? >> that's a good question. neil: he pushed nonviolence.

>> you had ministers like billy graham, my uncle's contemporary. they prayed together. visits to the white house, visits around the world to bring peace, and so my uncle today or my dad would be urging that we stand up in righteous indignation, and to speak as charitable and godly people and do something. neil: remember, maybe we've got to attack these guys because they're pretty mean guys. overly simplifying. >> sometimes to bring order, you have to show righteous force. not for the wrong reason. neil: what would it be to you? >> strike. honestly. >> this goes against this president's grain. >> strike. it's necessary. these are our young people who have been slaughtered before our very eyes. >> how do you think they recruit so many of our young people. the one doing the beheading is another disenchanted brit. what's going on here? >> i'm wanting them to

understand isis, isil, they do not love you. they want you to become something akin to a suicide bomber. join them and get yourself killed. neil: they recruit a lot of minority americans, why? >> it's a suicidal mission. neil: what is winning the minorities over? >> anger without direction. neil: anger at whom? >> just an angry young generation, period, not having answers, not very direction, that's why my uncle with six steps of nonviolent principals is with nonviolent change. do you it nonviolently. that's why i'm back to the geneva convention, peace talks should be on every side. if one side doesn't want to play, you have to have military discipline. neil: your dad, your uncle, were big advocates of not responding force with rce. you seem to be distinguishing yourself here saying this is different, why? >> well, if we would do what we do best as charitable people, one nation under god.

you don't have to bring out that folks, because you have a presence. you have a power. the righteousness of god standing with you. and people will -- neil: they don't care. >> because we're not demonstrating that. we're no longer one nation under god. we're not showing the power of god. we're not saying -- neil: you are not saying the president believes in god? >> i'm not saying that, he is not calling on god. that's disturbing me. neil: would it be different if george bush were president or does it matter? >> i don't like to put it back to personalities, george bush, ronald reagan, daddy bush. and there have been some democrats that i enjoyed and loved as well. i've been a democrat and republican, it's not political. but i believe if you have god-fearing leaders in place, they're going to get the wisdom that's required, and they are functioning with that wisdom, you don't need that much military force. if not to call on god and not

use military presence and authority, not to do either. that's what i don't understand. you don't want to call on god but you don't want to use military power either. what are you going to use? >> very interesting. we had a guest on prior that said -- and i'm paraphrasing, our debt, our economic situation led to a lot of this, and we we're just not the power that we were economically and it extends itself to how people take advantage of us whether it's vladimir putin or isis or terrorist group. >> if we go back to my book, make home a priority, serve your family, make education a priority. care for the needy, fight for justice, work for peace, build a beloved community and find your joy. we're not doing any of that anymore. you're not taking me over to ferguson i know this is going to be short. i just came back from ferguson, i said the same thing in ferguson, big cry, no justice,

no peace! i said if you k-n-o-w peace. you can k-n-o-w justice. and people came up to me after the talks and said thank you for saying, that i never thought about it. neil: what did you mean about it? >> the prince of peace is more powerful than anything human can do. if anyone knows the prince of peace, it's lord. neil: angry americans in ferguson, what do you tell them? >> they were angry when i went. neil: angry at you for what you said . >> at first they were, no justice, no peace. i said let's look at what justice is, it's power in the peace. let's begin to explain that and i talked about my lord and jesus, i said i faced tear gas, nerve gas, my house was bombid and called on the same power then as i call on now. neil: and remember your dad after that had said respond in kind. >> he stood on a car after our

home was bombed. neil: you are saying respond in kind. >> i'm saying, if necessary, if you're not going to call on the real power, this is the lord, then do something, that's what i'm saying. i would like for the white house to say let's pray. leaders pray with me. neil: sounds like you are disappointed? >> very disappointed. president obama call on the leaders of prayer in this nation. nation. bring us back to go [ female announcer ] you get sick, you can't breathe through your nose...

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. neil: all right, chris christie has a problem on his hand, atlantic city, another big casino is going out of business, and this could hit him in 2016 as the revel hotel and casino closed doors today it. becomes the fourth casino in a.c. to shut down this summer. 6,000 workers out of a job. back with the all-stars, hadley, rich and steve. hadley, i don't think this is a

good development for governor christie, not blaming it on him, it's happening under his watch and happening despite tax credits he awarded many a casino including the revel which is a standout on the boardwalk but now the workers have taken a walk. what do you think of this? >> christie got re-elected overwhelmingly with approval rating on the economy in the 42nd percent. he's popular within the state. it doesn't necessarily reflect on how nationally he would do as a 2016 contender. but certainly the loss of jobs with atlantic city closing yet another casino will affect the way people think he's handling the new jersey economy. neil: steve, what do you think? >> i agree with that. i mean the case for chris christie, he's competent, he's rebuilt the economy in new jersey and he's got a toughness to him. but when people see casinos closing down. you can't rebuild a state economy on the back of casinos, obviously, neil, but this is a

negative for him, and i like chris christie. i think he's done a lot of positive things for the economy, but when you have the visuals of these casinos closing down, it's not good for him politically. neil: rich? >> it's certainly not good for christie, certainly not good for the workers who lost their job, and i think it's horrible. his best case for a republican primary voters was the economy. he's not even getting that right. he's toast in terms of a republican presidential nominee. >> i don't agree with that. neil: i'm going to put you down as a maybe with the governor. hadley, the one thing i see, everyone is saying the bridgegate thing has gone away. i don't think that will be an issue by the time the primaries come around, assuming he enters the race, it will be old news, i don't think any of these developments will be old news. i don't think stewardship of the state and the bumpy recovery it's had and the horrific developments of atlantic city were not all his fault. i think it will hurt as they typically do, governors that

make the case, they're great executives. what do you think? >> you know with the casino industry specifically in new jersey, there are other factors we can point to. the rise of the popularity of online gambling. the rise of the availability to gamble in other cities outside of atlantic city. in different states even, other states changed threws make it easier for casinos to build there. with bridgegate, the accusation isn't negligence or bad luck in a certain industry. it wasn't intentional abuse of power. i think it will come down to in comparison whether it's republicans on the field for the primary for the nomination or whether it's compared to a democratic contender. you have to ask is bridgegate a scandal on the same level as benghazi? we're looking at different politicians. neil: i don't think bridgegate is an issue at all. that was my only point. i don't think bridgegate is an issue. >> neil, you make a good point, when successful governors who have run for

president, they almost all have run out on massachusetts miracle or florida miracle. this is one of the reasons a lot of people are very attracted to jeb bush is that the economy did so well. he turned around the education system. so this kind of thing is a big problem for him. he's got to show that in other industries he's created jobs, they're losing them in the gambling industry. neil: we'll wah closely. stick around, first jennifer lawrence and now home depot. hackers are on the loose and say your rear could be next.

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. neil: so you don't want others seeing it, don't be uploading it! take it from beauties. this hacking can get very measly because if you're naked on the internet, no one can hear you scream. they just ogle while you do. you would think that kate upton, a woman who filmed a

fashion shoot in zero gravity would know what happens when you upload nude photos of yourself to the cloud. some folks on the cloud are going to want to take a peek. and in the case of upton and oscar winner jennifer lawrence and pop singer rihanna and reality show star kim kardashian, don't ask, they did. and now these stars are seeing red and some of them are seeing their lawyers regarding suits. to protest their privacy along with their bare behinds. the issue isn't that this happened. the issue is that the stars and their agents are so surprised it did. maybe because they were using apple's iclouds and they figured they could go ahead and keep their heads and any other exposed body parts in the clouds and no one would notice because this hacking thing doesn't happen to apple. it does and it did and it's time for the beauties and the beast among us to get it fast because anyone is fair game, and no one's cloud is a 100%

hack-free game. apple is saying none of the cases they investigated resulted from breaches in icloud or find my phone, but word to the wise, start uploading only those things you want to upload and won't be embarrassed if someone else shares them with the world, which would pretty much be everything you value. to technology analyst cassie slain, we're going to bring in our all-stars in a second. cassie, why is this such a big deal, and why in the case of apple does it make it more of a big deal, or does it? >> i think you're right. i think apple has been seen as somebody that's secure, a company that you can trust, and now that the icloud is associated with this hack, whether or not it's apple's fault or not, it doesn't matter. now there is a black cloud over the icloud. and anything going forward that apple is going to do, there's going to be questions about the security and the rolling out the iwallet next week,

inevitably there is questions about the security of that. so apple does have a little pr problem on its hands. neil: the financial stuff i can see, we've gotten used to even when it comes to the irs, we file our taxes electronically to get a refund faster. we share that with the irs and should use extra caution which sending newt nude pictures of ourselves, if we are so inclineed? >> i don't know about you, most people should know you should not put nude pictures of yourself on the internet. neil: wait, wait, wait, wait a minute, that's a bad idea? >> very bad idea! anything is hackable if it's on the internet. if you want to be secure, use cash, don't carry a smartphone. neil: what's the alternative, back it up on a hard drive? what do you do? >> you don't send nude pictures first of all. second of all -- neil: speak for yourself, i see what you're getting at. >> there's things you can do. two-step verification processes that apple has put in place.

you know i think there was vulnerability in the find my iphone where hackers were trying to guess passwords over and over and over using brute force technology. typically that can be stopped after you guess a password wrong a couple of times. there is definitely something wrong with the security here and i think companies, everyone is a target, target was a target, apple is a target. any big name company is a target so you're never going to be completely safe so you always need to be on the lookout. change password, use two-step verification processes. everyone is a target on the internet. neil: i think this is something we never assigned to apple, that microsoft has had the problems, others had the problems, didn't happen to apple. it seems like the bloom is on that rose, right? >> go ahead, hadley. >> sorry. back in the day, no one had apple computers, it was rare to find someone with a laptop or

apple computer. if everyone else is using windows or microsoft product, then all viruses and all the hacking will be geared toward the majority of the consumers worth. now the market share in smartphones for the 40%. so many people that use iphones use icloud and seeing more security threats to the cybersecurity of iphone users. neil: i wish i had more time. i want to address this with all-sts when we return. if you're sitting in front of someone, put your seat all the way back. just try it. it's not going to go well. prove it. three times is not the charm. after this. when folks think about what they get from alaska, they thinkalmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america.

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. neil: all right, it's september, do you know where your money is. in biz blitz, investors are about to get blitzed. historically it's not october that's the scariest month, it's september. on average, it takes the biggest hit of any of the 12 months of the year, will this year be any different? back with your biz all-stars, hadley and rich and steve. steve, what do you think? >> i'm still pretty bullish. stocks have been on such a run for the last several years, you keep wondering, i get more and more questions from investors. are we at the top of this bubble? i don't think so, i think we might be getting close. neil: rich, what do you think? >> part of the stock market thing is superstition, people are worried. part of it is legitimate in terms of the slump going down, i'm not worried about the stock market, i'm worried about workers themselves.

as steve pointed out, we have seen historic highs, profits are high, only for the stockholders, they're not trickling down to workers, that's my concern. neil: hadley, the other argument is among stockholders, they're not the same breakdown or support cast that used to be the case in bull markets, very few are participating in this rally and that is problematic. what do you think? >> well, from what i've read some, investors believe there will be some kind of correction whether it takes place in the month of september or not. but in the long-term, most people tend to be like steve and bullish for the stock market success. we'll continue to see growth and success there. rich makes an important point. this recovery in our economy at large over the past several years has been a bifurcated recovery. people are finding opportunity for advancement again and people dealing with low wages and fewer opportunities to advance themselves and change jobs or move up and achieve the

american dream. our economy at large has many problems under the surface, even the unemployment figures don't show how serious it is that we have low labor force participation. it is a different story for each person in the case. neil: that angst expresses itself in the darndest of way, including for the first time in two weeks, seat back rage. the latest is a delta flight making an emergency landing after two passengers got into a railroad over this issue, and the plane was diverted over this issue. what is going on here? you know the issue, as soon as someone puts that seat back, they're going to land the plane, but not at the airport you want. >> i can relate. i'm on the road two or three days a week. i'm in planes all the time. the bain of my existence. the bain of my existence, i get behind the -- i always get

behind the guy who reclines seat all the way back. give viewers a great tip. you start sneezing over the headrest, and then the person will put their seat back. neil: that's lovely. professor, what do you make of that? not the advice, that there's something going on here, this is palpable rage here and the issue with seat backs is a big reason. >> this is an outrage, the fact the pilot landed this plane. neil: she said land this plane right now, and he did! >> what is it? a personal town car. i'd like to see this person do a perpwalk, once we see the consequences, maybe they won't do it. there don't seem to be consequences. maybe we'll see more of them. neil: what happened to common decency. i have a large head. in theaters i'm well aware of it which is why i sit in the back row at imax theaters, i don't want to make the screen

hard for the person behind me to see. it would kill you to put the seat a little back, why do you have to put it all the way back so you are in someone's lap? >> what is wrong with the people that they can't -- neil: it's your generation, not mine. we're as kind as we can do. >> there are things you can do before you land the plane. you can pay for economy plus seat. there are ways to avoid the conflict, it seems out of control. >> might help if they gave us a little more leg room. neil: you are one step away from being the fourth. we have the latest on the de we've never sold a house before. (agent) i'll walk you guys through every step. there are a lot of buyers for a house like yours. (husband) that's good to know.

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they are militant in their response. including david cameron of britain said he wants to take it right to isis even if that heightens terror risk at home. >> it is a strong response because they are a lot closer to the problem. geographicly. they have come to the realization this is not going away by itself, many of their citizens are participating with the islamic state. so therefore those folks if they are not killed on the battlefield, they will only get more radicalizeed then come home, whether they come home -- when they come home you look at sections of england right now, that are have sharei sharia cou. neil: what do we do? president it targeted strikes s genes key isis positions.

he is looking at expanding this now but reluctancely, now we're hearing he does not have a strategy, that is one thing when you understand, this is appears to be a mores resense phenomenon, but more indications of a year ago he was given a heads up. >> bad news does not get better with age. have yoyou have to deal with th, there has been a reluctance to go against narrative that osama bin laden is dead, and gm is alive, once you go against that, then you have to realize, that much of what has been said, has been false. as far as getting into these strikes, against the islamic state, yes, as you build those things out, if you do so gradually, you will mess it up, here is why. if you send those people to school one airstrike at a time, they will learn how to minimize

the effects of what you doing to them, we have to hold that back until we have a strategy, where we can -- where we can unleash it with ferocity, and do the most aim of damage, if we just continue to pin prick they will learn, how to defeat that capability. neil: i am wondering, let's take the administration -- face value they did not have enough time to come up with strategy. either the president did not pay attention or read the briefings or follow-up, or don't care. where do you stand? >> well, it has been reported that president does not always attend his morning intelligence briefs, that does not mean that staff does not. the department of defense has its own intelligence organization, and in the community you have cia, dia, a broad reach. it seems that the intelligence

community and the pentagon are as one on this only people who don't seem to see it, is the white house. now why they don't? maybe it is because they don't want to see it. because if you see it, then you are compelled to do something about it. neil: we could have had that view, this occurs under those who are considered more militant in your face presidents and those not so much, i am wondering if groups like isis oris ill whateveor, isil whatevl them. >> one thing we have seen i think is that more and more of this is happening, as wheels continue to come off 6 the middl-- off ofthe middle east at asia, the lack of american will being felt over there, and we're seeing the results with bad

actors that areageing out, we have china becoming more belligerent. neil: why shouldn't saudi arabia do something, they are lectureing us, it is right in their neighborhood, they are not. >> because they have a dog in that fight. neil: that is right. >> saudis are interested in what happens in syria, they see syria, assad, as part of th the irkianian out reach program -- iranian out reach program. neil: we're those who are to have response they are expected to be passive? >> there are things that saudis can do if it is in their interest, on one stop funding se of the ocean swraeuss, they will -- organizations, they will fund them as long as they stay out of town, saudis are getting scared, i have a friend who has lived in saudi arabia 14 years, he said he mas rich saudi friends from big families, who for first time are expressing fear, they are moving their money out of the

country and buying real estate in england and germany. neil: scary stuff, thank you chaptan chuck nash. see you tomorrow. kennedy: another american journalist appears to have been murdered in cold blood by isis, steven sotloff. terror group is known for their social media savvy, unrelenting save angry, but they screw up and sent out murder video too soon, the video looks like it could have been made two weeks ago, sotloff's moms may have left her lips too late, there is no way she could have known her son was gone, the isis problem is getting worse by the day, we're about to launch into a discussion that might solve the whole thing. welcome aboard, you better not