cantus every night at 6:00 p.m. you don't want to miss a moment of making money. right now, i'm leaving you in the capable hands of the man who ties altogether, lou dobbs on fox business. good evening, everyone, the threat posed by the radical islamic group has president obama are doing with himself on the world stage while in estonia. and the president begin for the destruction of the islamic state before he outlined a strategy to turn a terrorist into a manageable problem. end and the quote. and it was vice president joe biden today who successfully communicated the outrage of a nation at the sight of two american journalists savagely murdered by the islamic state.

he made it clear that the united states stands firmly in the face of russian aggression. ed henry is in wales tonight with our report. reporter: president obama struggled for the second time in six days to have a strategy to deal with isis. saying that the second beheading of an american journalist, steven sotloff, would not intimidate them. >> we will not forget and our reach is long and justice will be served. reporter: yet went to american reporters today question the president on last week's miscue about having no strategy to deal with isis, he gave two vastly different answers. >> the bottom line is this. our objective is clear. that is to degrade and destroy

isis because it's not only a threat to arauca to the region and to the united states and we know that if we are joined by the international community, we can continue to shrink the isil sphere of influence and its effectiveness in financing and its military capabilities to the point where it is a manageable problem. reporter: the tentative second answer from the president put it back on defense to white house aides tried again to explain what he meant, saying this is a two-step process were in the short-term he tries to make the problem more manageable while ultimately working to destroy the terror group. as president of item we then add an economic event

>> they should know that we will follow them to the gates of hell until they are brought to justice. because hell is where they will reside. reporter: republicans mocked the idea that people whom the president refers to as barbaric killers can be managed. after david cameron today came out swinging again, declaring unambiguously that isis needs to be squeezed out of existence. >> the president should come up with a strategy presented to congress, just the american people, and tell us how he believes that we should stop them. this is not, in my view, unmanageable as a situation. they want to kill us. they have had this experience before. four the president was starting to stop first in estonia.

>> estonia will never standalone. reporter: republicans say those types of assurances are necessary because allies are not confident about american leadership. >> there is no credibility. if the president and john kerry keep talking about coalitions, how are you going to warm coalitions with people who do not trust your? those who know that you are totally unreliable tour the president now getting a little pressure from democrats. senator is demanding that the president congress with a strategy to eliminate isis. nelson thing that he will introduce legislation to authorize the president to use heiress rights, saying that the head of this is here and it's time to go after it. lou: president obama struggling to verbalized us where he stands on the threat posed by the islamic state and flat out failed to outline a coherent

strategy that he supports his defense secretary who has remained clear. secretary chuck hagel today said that airstrikes in syria are on the table. correspondent catherine herridge is at the pentagon tonight with our report. proactive defense secretary chuck hagel said the military objective is clear. >> to degrade and destroy the capability of isil, to come after u.s. interests all over the world and our allies. reporter: he insisted that there had been a strategy with airstrikes in syria under consideration. reporter: he asked us for different options and we have prepared him for not these on analysis of the execution videos and obvious details such as facial hair, the state department says that steven sotloff and james foley were murdered on different days. >> the videos were not shot at

the same time is what we are determining, with a video of steven sotloff being shown after the james foley video. reporter: social media fuels isis recruitment. they spread their propaganda at lightning speed. >> they are the dominant force of influence four the nation's top official says that they now control territory the size of great britain. >> isil has the potential to plan and coordinate attacks in europe and the united states. reporter: further evidence that the intelligence community was not blindsided. >> they are likely to gain experience battle hardened and further radicalized tour after new reporting the detailed intelligence within his daily brief for over a year, mr. obama suggested that he flagged the issue in may.

>> we anticipated this a while back and it was reflected in my west point speech of. reporter: but according to the remarks, he never mentioned them by name in the west point speech. and in the last hour a spokesman for the family of steven sotloff said that he was drawn to the air world to report the suffering of the ordinary people and in the end, is isis captors never broke out. lou: catherine herridge, thank you. the world health organization announcing today more than 1900 people have died from the ebola epidemic sweeping through west africa. global health officials also estimate that it may cost more than $600 million to control the spread of the deadly virus. and there is some good news. a patient in britain who took the experimental drug has been

released after making a full recovery after taking z-mapp. and kent brantly and nancy writebol are getting stronger every day thanks to a commendation of factors. >> the question is usually asked, what do you think. was it the z-mapp drug? was at the supportive care? was a u.s. medical people and those doctors and nurses that helped to save you? and my answer to that question is is all of the above. lou: coming up, we will be talking with the doctor who is helping to conduct the verse human trial for an experimental kent brantly and nancy writebol vaccine. that started with the director of the national institute of

allergy and infectious seizes and he will be joining us here in the broadcast later on. and we are learning more about the 18-year-old teenager who was killed by a ferguson misery, police officer last month. according to a juvenile court system, he did not face any chas at the time of his death and was never charged with a felony. a missouri judge is deciding whether or not to release his records if he had any. we are coming right back. lou: the president has a strategy for the islamic state after all and actually two plans. degrade and destroy and make them manageable. general jack keane tonight on the obama administration's war of words with itself. coming up next. [ hoof beats ]

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lou: president obama ordering 350 troops to baghdad, kurdish officials say the obama administration isn't doing enough to provide them with advanced weapons with which to defeat the islamic state. joining us now is former army vice chief of staff, general jack keane. he is chairman of the institute for the study of war and fox news military analyst. let's start with the president's contradictory statement in estonia. as he said, the reports would be to destroy the islamic state and then recanted and say that the strategy was to make it a manageable problem. what in the world is going lem.ugh the commander in chief's what in the world is going

through the commander in chief's mind? >> when looking at that, the only thing i can come to is that he really doesn't know what to do and how to do it. that level of uncertainty still to this day is reflected in the contradictory statements starting back without a strategy. and, you know, it is unfathomable and irresponsible but after three years of watching isis deliberately and methodically rise in syria, taking one town and village and city after another moving into a rack, taking most of northern iraq and we say here today without a goal and objective of what to do about it with no strategy in support of it, suddenly with no comprehensive military campaign to support the strategy, that is what is taking place. lou: then with apparent ease and

total conviction, secretary chuck hegel articulated very clearly the approach that one would have expected the president of the united states to enunciate. what is that desk disconnect and what can we expect? >> i think that the central command headquarters has responsibility for this region, like all of our intelligence services. they have been tracking isis over these three years and so we need to understand that it comes out so easily and we need to destroy it. it's not a whole strategy, estonia is in a campaign plan. but it's reflective of a body of

reflective of a body of work that they have party done. lou: the murder of two islamic hands on our american journalist. creating a third of the casualties in iraq whose sponsorship is staged terror continues. why in the world have we not heard the president speak so forcefully directly and mean what he had died. they convinced themselves one, we are going to get out of the wars in iraq and afghanistan and certainly we are not going to

get involved in any more wars in the middle east and three, the world is actually becoming a safer place and the harsh reality is that is not the truth of the matter and he had difficulty adjusting to this. this is less about the government and a single person and the president of the united states and what we must do about it. lou: it can be found for millions of people most in eastern europe and prospectively estonia where the president was before arriving in wales. vladimir putin has effectively been told that he can march one he will and the president today assuring the estonians are doing so without the least, to this

point, the public support of the nato nations, what do you make of where we are headed with vladimir putin two. >> i'm very concerned about it. you and i have had a number of discussions about it. so the annexation of crimea, taking part in the eastern ukraine, and then when it comes to the baltic states which are protected by nato, i clearly believe that the russian minority provinces close to the border to repeat what we have seen in the eastern ukraine and blame it on the separatist that exists there and their desire to be closer to russia than it is to the sovereign states in the baltic nations. i think that he is willing to put at risk nato and force its collapse, which, to him, that is checkmate because the fact of the matter is nato and the

united states force the collapse of the warsaw pact and the soviet union. and so to stop that if that is really in his mind and certainly he has demonstrated a, we need to put some permanent troops in those countries. the president deserves credit for speaking forcefully about nato and u.s. actions there to defend these countries. that needs to b done. but vladimir putin has heard this rhetoric so many times before. and it's only going to grab his attention. putting troops in there permanently, guarantee that we will fight to protect those countries and that will send a loud message and also make them perk up and pay attention to nato. lou: general jack keane, thank you so much. "the washington post" fact checker talking about spending

obama's recent characterization of the islamic state, listen to the white house press secretary just last week. >> the president was not singling out isil, but he was talking about the very different threat that is posed by a range of extremists around the globe. many of them do not have designs on attacking the west or the united states. lou: "the washington post" are warning that statement and that was the worst lowest rating that they get. it couldn't be clear that the president was, in fact, as we said in january, the islamic state was jb. coming up next, my commentary on why vladimir putin and barack obama have more in common than you might think. not comforting but in common.

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lou: coming up tonight, the white house refuses to say whether an executive fiat is on

the way on immigration. director anthony fauci joins us at first, one of the most confounding president tooled office. the obama administration has managed to access we don't all the largest numbers of scandals whoever embroil any white house since world war ii. wiretapping, journalists, including james rosen and journalists simply in the associated press. the irs scandal, solyndra, the gsa scandal. neither the congressional investigators or the liberal media have been able to break through the obama stonewalling that encircles the white house. and they are not cracking down on leaks. the white house is not only

energetic in their efforts to control the flow of information, but denying the press access on a host of issues calling the obama administration the greatest enemy of press freedom 3 greatest enemy of press freedom in a generation. and also the avatars raising heck about this a little more often. the obama administration doesn't make the obama administration easy. in the obama administration earlier this week getting the and administration to call the invasion of ukraine and

invasion. that despite the fact that we have targeted the islamic state with airstrikes and the islamic state has beheaded two american citizens. >> i am not going to put labels on it. because i think it's clear that we are concerned about the threat of isil to western interests and interests in the region. and they are certainly at war with everything we stand for. lou: war is a new label? one of the oldest words in our language. what is wrong with these administration mouthpieces and i

should say that is, if we followed washington, administration language rules, i would have to clear such descriptive or colorful nouns with the administration before using plain language. and he honestly can't decide if the obama policy, his policy, is tube more gently make them a manageable problem. disturbingly, the white house is in look any better than the putin kremlin, which now maintains today's secession of hostility between the ukraine and russia that cannot be called a cease-fire. because to do so would imply that vladimir putin and russia and their troops were firing weapons as they invaded and occupied ukrainian ukrainian territory. thankful that such will be an

impulse of leaders. and i certainly hope that they have stopped it. and now our quotation of the evening and this one from alexander the great. i am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep but an army of sheep led by a lion. we are coming right back. president obama has lost his pen or his phone. the man who may not know this answer is the executive director of the national immigration forum coming up next you. thank you mom for protecting my future. thank you for being my hero and my dad. military families are uniquely thankful for many things,

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lou: 51 days until the election. speaker john boehner said in a radio interview that immigration will warm, as he called it, could still happen in the relatively near future. >> this includes the presidents missed trust and i did outline that there was a possibility that they did take this issue up next year. lou: not even the white house knows what president obama plans to do on the issue, if he will issue another fiat. somebody who might know is the executive director of the national immigration forum. thank you for being with. >> thank you for having me. >> i think the president is trying to figure out what his options are and what the timing will be. first of all, the legislative solution is ideal and congress still has this through the beginning of next year.

it's a perfectly reasonable piece of legislation and he still has an opportunity leading up to the election or after the election. if the house house fails to act, it looks like the imminent ration is to take their own actions. lou: it is hard to tell. because we have the spokesman saying that it's hard for me to draw any conclusions about what the president's timing will be. and with that, the president could simply lower the rhetoric and move towards a resolution. >> remember, the president, to his credit, he lowered the rhetoric all the way up until speaker boehner said that it's not going to happen this year. the president went as far to say

that we can do it piece by piece. let's get it done. but our economy and our families are suffering because of a broken immigration system. and at some point the elected officials have to act. >> what you just said was true to this very moment without that entire period, they have had at and there's been a rush of urgency on a lily and tirelessly with conference of immigration reform and i respect that. but the reality is that those have not been served by the absolute insistence on this. compromise should appear to everyone at this point. >> i could not agree more. i think that there is the majority do you look across in

america, i believe that there is a burst of compromise among democrats and republicans. but at this moment in this political compromise, it's going to be incredibly difficult. so at some point, speaker boehner have to say that we need to get this over with or the president is going to have to say that we need to do whatever we can, although it will be temporary and inadequate and fall short of his own ideals, at some point we have to grant the economy and the community some sort of early. because we have been talking about this for years. lou: may be maybe the solution is staring everyone in the face. the judiciary committee led by bob goodlatte. it is with great energy, and i'm talking about sincere energy, putting behind the legislation and not something that we move to the conference with the senate and the white house would like to work their will. but to actually move forward in an incremental fashion achieving

real border security in the nonsense of rhetoric that you can't secure the border because we know that you can, there are examples all over the world of successfully doing so. is that possible in your view? >> i think so. and republicans are going to reach a compromise with democrats to get those out of the house. and all the way up to the summer we saw that and so i think that he won to say, let's get this done. but he can't. >> you can't really get it done because right now in his conference he has, as we will see over the coming weeks, that there is absolute outrage at the insistence that this will be shut down and shut down the throats of the american people

and the congress. so this would rebel and sterling. >> we saw that going as well. they couldn't get anything close to that solution. lou: plenty of irrationality can be spotted in all quarters of washington dc. you are an exception to that and we appreciate you being with us. lou: cast your vote at loudobbs.com. here are the results of our poll last night. wether you believe social media company should have the ability to limit your freedom of speech and 86% said no. lou: the deadly epidemic in

africa is spiraling out of control. but could this be enough to stop the contagion? the director of infectious diseases and the prospect of a new drug. doctor anthony fauci is next

lou: and third american has been identified today. the doctor recently diagnosed was treating pregnant women in liberia, he is now in an isolation unit and the world health organization declaring a bull in owl a global threat, more than 3500 people have been infected and more than 1900 have died in west africa.

scientists vaccinating people, these are the first pictures. the man at the head of this research and this trial, the director of the national retreat of allergy and infectious diseases, doctor anthony fauci. they keep forgetting this work underway and obviously we all hope that it is successful. what are your thoughts right now? >> paramount is safety, because you will give it to normal healthy people to protect them against ebola. the first thing that you do right now is what is called a phase one trial with normal healthy volunteers here in maryland and we will have a total of about 20 people in that trial and it will take about three or four months by the end of the calendar year to determine if there are no adverse reactions to it and whether it reduces the response. and the trouble is it's the developing of a vaccine that is

a long multistep process and this is the first important step and then if it is go to the next stage of vaccinating many more people to determine the correct dose, whether it doesn't protect people and that's not something that you get overnight. it takes a while. lou: z-mapp also being administered by some victims, by our count, seven, and two of them have died. what is the relationship between the two vaccines and which do you think at this point is most promising, if you can make that judgment? >> one of the vaccines that we are working on is a cocktail of anti-bodies that have been artificially produced and it's

very difficult to predict what will be the most promising and there were just too few people that got it. a few of them that got a diet. lou: the centers for disease control, he says that this pandemic is now out of control and he says there is a very narrow window and i agree completely with him and i was with him today for several hours and i totally agree with his

assessment. what he is referring to about the window is dead it is the increase in cases that you just reported right before you started talking to me and that is what we are seeing is the slope of that curve that is frighteningly steep in an upward way. and it isn't going up like this, but like that. and we call that an ex-potential increase. that means that every day that goes by, it gets further and further out of your grasp. lou: the urgency of this matter is we talk about this with the spread of the disease, this deadly disease. what is the timeframe that you believe that you have to bring a vaccine and bring this to the people of west africa to get this epidemic stopped? >> this is a very important

question, but you could be disappointed with my answer and the reason that i a that is that right now a vaccine or a drug, it's just not going to stop this terrible outbreak. it's going to be a major intensification of the medical approach toward identifying and isolating and contact tracing and getting good personal protective a permit for the people who are taking care of these individuals, getting information about the help that is available for people instead of having them run away through the hospital. the vaccines are important but they are not going to be ready in time and although they are working intensively on developing drugs, what west africa needs is a major location of the effort and that includes

contact tracing and giving people the care that they need. lou: when will we see that massive effort and what we do need is a global effort. >> yes, we need a global effort. no one country or organization is going to stop this. it's not going to be the united states alone or who alone, it's not going to be the world bank. you need a global effort of many countries and organizations. lou: doctor anthony fauci, thank you for being with us and bring us up-to-date. >> it's good to be with you.

lou: coming up next, another press conference from president obama weaving his actual strategy in combating the islamic state and confusing some more than others more than ever. . have tammy bruce and johnl cs gambling to sort it out coming xt trav makes it so hard to get a seat using your miles. that's their game. the flights you want are blacked out. or they ask for some ridiculous number of miles. honestly, it's time to switch to the venture card from capital one. with venture, use your miles on any airline, any flight, any time. no blackout dates. and with every purchase, you'll earn unlimited double miles. from now on, no one's taking your seat away. what's in your wallet? they're about 10 times softer and may have surface pores where bacteria can multiply. polident kills 99.99% of odor causing bacteria and helps dissolve stains. that's why i recommend polident. [ male announcer ] cleaner,

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lou: joining me now, two of our favorite radio talk show host, tammy bruce and john gambling. it is good to have you to with two with us. let me start with you. the president not seeming to make up his mind in estonia, saying that the policy on the islamic state of the united states will degrade and roi than

and then manage the problem. what do you make of it? >> there are some beautiful golf courses they are. maybe he was distracted. i'm not quite sure what he's thinking. orsi was off the teleprompter at this link. but adding the one statement, a very dramatic contradiction, ranging from destroying and a boeing to then saying that he would be and want to manage it. he also called on a cancer, which it is and you don't approach either one of those with a soft touch. do you go in and you want to eradicate it. and dealing with the nature how you addressed this cancer. >> you would think after last week, we had no strategy statement between then and now and he and his administration had come up with something.

joe biden took the position of the president of the united states, that he should've taken, and that is that we are mad as heck and were not going to take it anymore. and as john mccain said today that the thought of trying to build a coalition in the region to fight isys with the way they view barack obama is almost impossible. in "the washington post" giving them for pinocchio is for trying to spin their way out or suggest that it wasn't the islamic state in iraq that he was referring to. and they said that that is just hogwash. lou: just to show you what the

president is suffering through, his approval rating has dropped to 39%. his approval rising to 54% in the gallup poll. and it appears that the cancer that he was wearing was an effort to soften his image and relate to folks and it didn't work. >> "the washington post", we first called him a jv team. and there's a lot of sycophants that are around him. but he's never been challenged.

and so we are seeing this kind of attempt to rally around him and support him. approval rating is still and we have that this week. lou: the idea that he would issue a the fiat again, apparently the white house is backing up.

>> they don't want him to do that about immigration. and there's no political will to get this handled and the way that it needs to be. i don't think boehner will do it next year and i don't think the president will do in or the beginning of next year and you have to take things seriously which neither has been doing for several years. lou: tammy bruce and john gambling, thank you both for being here.

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neil: welcome. i am neil cavuto. wound them because we can't kill them, that is gest of what president said today in europe, as he was outlining what to do about isis, even. we're going slow, they are moving fast, slow them because we can't stop them, president said he is not yet prepared to order military strikes on isis strong holds in syria, and saying waiting for support at home and abroad. he has been getting it over there, australia indicateing as much. maybe he is not reading papers or