neil: welcome, everyone. do you know why the president's poll numbers are low? beuse he talks too long and he goes on and on. i don't mean to disparage him. i'm just telling you that he can solve a lot of his own problems if he just truncated it. the proof came that today at a press report out in europe, addressing the timeline of nato's reaction to isis. start your watch is right now. >> let me start with the general point. there was unanimity over the last two daywhere isil poses a

significant threat to nato members area and. neil: i'm going to keep showing you this and you think that things are starting to get to t point. >> we have a critical role to play in rolling back this savage organization that is causing so much chaos in the region and is harmingo many people. d there is great conviction that we have to act as part of the international community to degrade and destroy isil, that was extremely encouraging. >> that as an answer to one question, almost seven minutes. six minutes and 53 seconds are you and that's a very long

answer. and you must say that that is what presidents do. but not al of them conduct press conferences like that. john kennedy and how he handled it as well. >> can you describe your personal role and did you make any suggestions or metz no, i didn't. this is the defense department. >> is there anything to the reports that the postmaster general will be with replacement for the election campaign? >> no, no. >> are you able to tell us something. >> would be what you plan to do if you don't get a tax cut? >> i plan to get a tax cut, mr. morgan.

neil: in a typical press conference at last around 50 to 52 minutes, jfk would take upwards of, depending n he urgency of the news, anywhere from 2842 questions. this president on average, seven to 12 questions. and i think that is the crux of the president's problems. he goes on andd on. maybe it goes to this age, but the fact of the matter is that when you are going on and on, you lose people's attention span. >> yes, well, he was the master of the press conference. sixty-four conferences in less than three years. he loved the jousting. he mastered the details.

he used humor to disarm. neil: he also had no problem with a short answer. one thing that i noticed is how quick and to the point it wise and if you didn't have an answer, he would say yes or no or whatever and give a quick response and move on. >> someone once asked him if he would debate his opponent for the 1964 presidential campaign and he said yes, i would herriot someone said, did you know that they have voted you the worst president in american history in some cases, and he laughed and said i assumed the vote was unanimous and he moved to the next question. neil: another thing i noticed, and maybe it's just me. president obama knows who he's going to call on. so he would come there and they

all seem to get their questions and. >> he called on so many of them. of course, he played favorites like all presidents do. but he really seemed to be enjoying himself and he did not act like he was in the dentist chair about to have a tooth pulled and i think he was having done. >> a lot of presidents don't like that. but the presidents seem to know and enjoy the give and take and so what has changed and is this thing that has slowly morphed to this. so what has changed? >> is partly kennedy's own persona and style. he said he wanted to be a newspaper publisher when he eft office and he had a lot of experience and wan't all smoke and mirrors. he had been elected to congress

and then the senate in 1952. he knew the federal budget and he knew how the government works and he showed that in his debate with nixon. and he had a great sense of fun abou it. he loved being president just like ronald reagan. they loved every single day that they had in that office and they had a sense of joy about it. down to the last day in office for jfk, e loved that job and engaging people in the press and he had the confidence to do it. even though his answers were brief and concise, if you look at all press conferences, you will see that most of the tme he actually answered the question. he didn't dodge or change the subject. but he usually answer the questions directly. neil: and he would just say no at times. you would think that kennedy, just as television was becoming

influential, he argued that he got elected in the first place. that this president was no chump when it comes to appreciating the gravity of the media. you'd think you'd be all over it, but he is not. >> it comes down to personality and being concerned withnot taking risks. he was the first president to do live televised conferences. he reveled in it. and here's another thing why work for him. he was not afraid to take responsibility. when he was ata press conference talking about the abysmal failure, kennedy could have said that it is the cia's fault or eisenhower's fault or the joint chiefs is that but he said i don't want to get into details, it' not safe. but i will say this, victory has 100 fathers and orphans. i am the responsible officer. essentially he's saying that i'm in charge and it is my fault. and his approval ratings went up because he admitted that.

neil: that is true. leaving the blame game aside, i look at press conferences with a bit of an entertainment vibe. a young president comin after an old president, but he was up for the job and the rigors of the job. but properly used, a press conference can be gold for you. can he does not deal with it? >> i don't think that he enjoys it. and it doesn't show a natural love the way that jfk dead and that is a personality issue and also presidents are so protective now that they give nonanswers. jfk cut right to the chase. if jfk were here, he'd give a lot more answers.

he said when a chimpanzee went to space, he said the chimpanzee says everything is perfect and well. neil: a fema reporters that were you doing for women today, mr. president. and he thought for a second a he said sure not enough. neil: it was a way for him to zhang himself and still have fun with the subject at the same time. >> you could always laugh at himself. neil: james swanson, thank you so much. it hit me today when i heardhe presidents answer in what turned to be a little bit more than 13 or 14 minutes of an address to we've never sold a house before.

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neil: nancy isis is looking bad enough. but how about al qaeda. the last time we sought to terror groups getting stronger, i'll tell you. the joint german chief of staff in 9/11 commission confirmed after. i don't know what they promise,

other benefits, more pay, i'm not sure what it is. that al qaeda is clearly alarmed. >> i think that these groups are mutations of one another and i think that we should just be aligned if they are still contuing this call for g5 and many women want to join it and sacrifice their lives in a ruthless way for a cause in the end that will not win anyone over. neil: why is al qaeda worried about the isis enrollment? it's kind of like, these guys are stealin our thunder. what? >> i don't know. it's hard to know that. al qae has been the preeminent, if you will, terrorist organization for a long time in terms of the ruthlessness and we saw that on 9/11. neil: who is more ruthless? >> well, al qaeda has at least

3000 victims that we all know very well in the united states. and so i think that, they are both probably equally ruthless. if they could get their hands on weapons of mass destruction, illogical, nuclear, they would certainly use them without any remorse or hesitation at al. neil: do you get a sense that we are osing out with some of this. that everything seemed to be expressed in a matter of weeks if not longer. and what is your sense of this? >> my sense is that what we are doing currently in iraq and perhaps in syria is appropriate. but there's a longer-term issue and that is how you get people to not want to join jihad. that will take time to develop this with our friends and allies and partners and that's a muc longer term solution to this.

but it can't be that the military keeps playing whack a mole with terrorists in thinking this is going to go away. because it's not. this is going on for decades and it will continue unless we have a more comprehensive strategy. i think we're doing what we should be, but it may take time to develophis long-range strategy. i he we lead with that and we have the focus to lead with that. neil: soked about this at a threat level, and we have not as yet, a lot of folks are getting kind of answer you. are we adequately preparing for god for bid? >> well, i think what we know is that these groups do create havoc when they thought they were successful.

9/11 is certainly one of those. we are much better posture today than we were on 9/11 to detect that. and so i think that our governme will issue the appropriate cautions when they know there's something to be worried about. neil: they always talk abot more chatter and we have heard indications of more chatter, many times on anniversary date and it's something that mes with the change in the calendar. but obviously they are talking about how they can improve this, that it's already here. >> i thi the fact that they surprised the world in iraq doesn't bode well for what we know about them now. the we are probably scrambling to get our intelligence together. but again, we are much better

posture today than we were in 2001. and so i would expect that we know a lot. maybe not everything. but it's one of these things where there are so many of them and we are a free society and things can happen. but i think we're much better postured and we just need to be cautious. neil: thank you very much, sir. okay, it is one thing when it's home depot, it's one thing when it is targeted and any number of companies that do business with the government. but it is quite another when it is the government and doesn't is the government and doesn't involve tens of thousands of musical chairs. fun, right? welllllllll, not when your travel rewards card makes it so hard to get a seat using your miles. that's their game. the flights you want are blacked out. or they ask for some ridiculous number of miles.

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neil: one of our favorite segments. what is the deal? a lot o you slipping insults when you are complimenting you. carol says i love neil cavuto. and it gets even uglier. meanwhile, hot celebrities, home depot, and now healthcare.gov. hackers are hitting everyone, including the united states government, which would be you. to howard schmidt who has seen this play out again and again. and nate bradley on the high cost of that protection. wha is going on, and why now? what happened there? >> that is the thing that we

don't know right now. the big surprise is that it's taken six weeks from the time that they installed them out where to discovering this. andt was done by all accounts. smitty was actually looking at this where we have this technology where we do continuous monitoring and it's basically scanning the system, looking for more abilities to get them fixed. and this is just one more step of finding systems that are vulnerable and extorting them. neil: why is there a lag in which we find out that it happened a month ago, it happened six weeks ago. why is that? >> threat detection technology cost money. and inparticular if you look at our government struggling with this, companies as large as home depot struggling, it's very

naïve to think that you can overcome the hackers on their own. neil: what you do? >> you buy insurance and your budget and when you raise the money, you allocate the funds r this issue and you cannot do business in any large-scale on the internet or mobile without taking security first. neil: but if the united states government can't police itself, how we going to be able to do it two. >> that is the point. the same but abilities that exist in the consumer world and the small-business world that we were talking about, they exist in large enterprises like the government. and the government has had the technology to basically stomp these things down. it's not whack a mole. we have to start executing on the strategies and the plans and

the security people that i talk to are so frustrated. there's always focus on something else and the security only pops up when something like this happens red. neil: who is doing this? you and i were talking earlier. i always get his feeling that it happens so often tat they almost seem like they are teaming up sometimes. >> there is certainly an increase in the values of our data as we move health care and gay more services that are internet and mobile base. the value of a is great. and this includes individual groups that can benefit and broker the data. individual organizations that have a vested interest in us. neil: on of you and i have chatted with our.

but the grand prize for terrorists in tran-sixes to zero out americans bank accounts. to have them discover that there's nothing inheir account and nothing would stop this economy like that, and they know it. >> one of the things is th don't need the expertise. whether it's home depot or healthcare.gov or target, whatever the environment is. the information gets publicized and is widely available so they don't need the expertise. they can see what others have done and duplicated and worst worst-case scenario that you and i have talked about, it could be a real situation as opposed to something theoretical. neil: hollywood celebrities got involved, so that would make a big deal. >> absolutely. and it comes down to value of the data and what has been monetized. it's unfortunate.

>> a rule should be probably not to upload pictures of yourself in the nude? >> well, yes. but again, the responsibility for companies like ours is to provide security for consumers and customers. >> so if i wanted to upload this, you would protect me? >> in terms of providing that service, it's possible. i appreciate what you're saying. it is something down to the individual level and you will be held accountable right. neil: thank you both very much. meanwhile, would you root for a team with this logo? with this particular logo? i didn't think so. one individual is using this

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neil: incredible. we have not had a correction of even 10 percent in years. that's not healthy. and here is another. a record low number. now before the crash and what happened in october, and so few are bearish that the contrarian argument would be that is going to be a contraria problem. this will live on. wary about the very, very few out there. >> well, it is sort of lke

this. one reason that the market has been going up, a massive correction in 2011, about 22%. but it is going up because you have this political association between the politics of the world which are a total mess. i mean very soon there will name one eastern ukrain western russia and all of a sudden obama's says don't worry about it. we have your back. neil: markets have always. >> the point is there are these. so far mentioned. laughing off. they think it's and vulnerable. it is not. the company is going to earn $0.50. the stock comes in.

i you reverse it nd you have 19 and 45 and o at 50 the stock comes in at 45. no reaction. right nonow everyone is bettingn super high eanings. neil: of you not withstanding. this is not an obscenely rich market. >> i just looked athe data. there are a number of counter arguments. just using ths data which was from institutional investors. the last time and was near this low on bearishness and august 09 and august 11 the market was up 12 and 15 percent respectively the next 12 months. you know, thether argument is everyone is bearish. the otr popular survey kaj

individual inveors, we then have had the same bearishness since april and the market has been strong. neil: the hidden. they kept us going. that can't go on. >> cutting interest rates by a tenth of a point. the difference between 04 and 05. there is no difference. there is onope right now basical called germany. there's a country to the east of germany called russia. those two countries have an inordinate amount of power. it is a question of when something happe in germany

will not let you're gone. for whatever eason they have. neil: and he are whistling past the graveyard. markets tend to said disconnect from the war reasoner out in the moment, but only to the moment are am wrong? >> no. you're right. the market could fall at any time. you could always make that argument. we look back. i shuld hav seen it. tho were the signs. you know, you alwwys he to look atwhat the alternatives are. the fed at this point does not give any inication that it is going to start tightening. besides, where will people go with their oney? they cannot put itunder a mattress. we still have a little bit of inflation. they can throw it into bonds. you look at the earnings.

neil: this goes on a while. price andalways prepad. been for the market to correct. the trend is up. >> the trend is definely up but for the same reason. there is no place to put your money. neil: the least you could do -- >> i'm sorry. i'm sorry, sir. sir, i'm sorry. i really am. for the same reasons you can say the is no place to put your money. that is a forecast of zero growth. how the german market. >> that argument, it's the sam argument from six months ago.

you get out then. that's a recipe for no growth. a pretty good move on the market >> let me just point -- excuse me, if you made that argument, and a lot of people did, a couplef miserable months. they were the guys a or euros. neil: very eloquently. i'm not so sur abt the presidentn illegal immigration after the midterm election he could e looking at granting amnesty tomillions of illegals pleaded is just a matter jobs . my views on the subject. here is what that will produce. how about half a million more coming into the country as a result. e never sold a hou

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not a matter of if but when the president is going to announce a big delay. upwards of five versus million. it's not going to happen. granted permanent status. hard to say. this much is not, if he were to do that mynext guest says look for that to emboldened illegal immigrants coming to america, maybe by a factor of half a million in short order. with the details on that, the center for immigration studies expert. elain why that would trigger more illegals. >> well, the current crisis we have been experiencing in south texas is the best evidence yet that the combination of a talk of amnesty along wth lax enforcent in the interior of the country inspires people to come here illegally. numbers because of that. neil: what does that mean?

is it a difficult procedure? >> well, right now people are able to turn themselves into the border patrol of the southwest border. it is not particularly difficult. it has done easier to get a visa . so word gets back. neil: to your point, that is a legal process. right over the border. >> well, both a going out. about 30 to 40 percent of people who are living here illegally now came in our legal visa. and there is very little enforcement, very little chance that they would be targets for enforcement. the same is true of the people who came over the southwest border. they have seen that if you come as an unaccompanied juvenile or a family you are allowed to stay here for at least three years

and potentially have access to a green card. they know that not only will they be welcomed and released into the country but even if they skip their hearing they have very little chance that they will be deported. neil: local authorities or police hand them over. it is a revolving door. but the way we're treating and now dot the illegals. yes, according to interviews that have been done by a border patrol intelligence, journalists and others people are telling us that they're coming because friends and family whore already he told them that nothing will happen to them and that they will be released into the country.

they have seen it happen to their friends and family. you basically have to have been convicted of a serious crime t be subject to to immigration enforcement. neil: no guarantee. very much appreciated. meanwhile, what i am about to say, something that will offend some of the right off the bat. let's go. why am i saying the name redskins? because that is the team's name. next to my find out who is going though groups not only to not say the team's name but to replace the team's logo with we've never sold a house before.

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neil: i don't know, but i want you to do this. of what you -- i want you to see the hoops that not only the broadcasters but anyone associated using the term are redskins to whatever, but every time. i guarantee you about four minutes into the game you're going to be smashed. what do you think? >> you know what, the point i keep trying to drive home about this is the national survey did a srvey of native americans in

2004 and found 90 percent were not offended by that term. neil: to be fair, that number has gone up. you are still right. it is the majority. it was changing. >> exactly. thesame outrage brought on by the media causing this to happen now. everyone has to be offended by something. unfortunately by the left. neil: and other news ntwork. there will not even use the term redskins cause to them it is offensive. furthermore, newspapers will not use it. there will not use the team logo . what the make of that? not a problem for the washington post. maybe that's because it's silly and it will risk.

what do you make of what's going on? >> they're just trying to it get attention and stir up controversy. 83 percent of redskins fans want to keep the name. that's a pretty high nuber. the washington area, washington d.c. is more than 50 percent african-american. people you would assume would be more sensitive to that are not. i'll live in new york, washington d.c. for nearly 30 years. people love their team. very protective. admiration and love and they understand it. people don't -- neil: their will be some groups here that want to start protesting in boycotting those companies that are sponsoring or show.

>> right. one of the key factors that makes this right now 2014 different is the existence of social media. while the polling shows that -- throughout the number, 80 percent of native americans polled said they are not offnded, best buy is behind that. also now they have the power to talk back tthe media and others. native americans and we don't want you to use the name. neil: so there is great risk in perpetuating the name if you are doing it andmore or less selling hat group. fine by us. >> i think that for the first time in history they have that power. [inaudible conversations] neil: government trademarked names. unprecedented to use their redskin name and all. >> well, part of the problem

with this discussion generally flaming -- family and under that political correctness umbrella, usually the victims of these kinds. they don't have th political power to say i don't want you to use that. native american peop now have that power. >> i am the only one here talking who actually has native blood. [inaudible conversations] >> you are basically accusing peoe who are not -- [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> this is what these groups are doing, creating this average. [inaudible cnversations] neil: you are arguing -- i controversy.ronment. anyone who even as threatens

board, we will broadcast. we will not advertise. >> that is exactly right. playing into this politically orrect rrative. you hit the nail on the head. him. >> so offensive to me. the idea by talking. >> i would be outraged. >> i would be outraged. >> is similar none musical chairs. fun, right? welllllllll, not when your travel rewards card makes it so hard to get a seat using your miles. that's their game. the flights you want are blacked out. or they ask for some ridiculous number of miles. honestly, 's time to switch

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stay one and what is the deal with minimum-wage? restaurants would like to have it raised. some are saying up to $15. it could make many out of business. it is the raids raise too much, many won't go i certainly will. and let me get this straight, one person said, a person should get $15 an hour with less than service like i have? that's an excellent point. and another writes to us, it's almost like the country owes them something. roll up you sleeves and earn it. and carla says it's interesting to see how many protesters are

protesters. and many union contractor jobs are minimum-wage. and if others go up, others did it raisess well. and jan says, i agree, i can see increasing the minimum wage, but doubling it and holding the country hostage over it, forget about it. and forget the clueless clowns as well. and pepsi disagrees. tell me why someone who sits in corporate and corporate offices and does very little to contribute to my success of my restaurant should make a six-figure income while i make $2.83 an hour. but maybe if the people at the top are and what they actually earned, maybe that would be better. i'm assuming you're a waiter and you make tips to compensate,

unless you are a horrible waiter. and second, be very careful demanding folks make the money you think they deserve. for instance, tom brady, lebron james, many couldn't agree with you, but let's just say that market forces do not. in a sense, hands in the competition for best college coach. market forces deciding whether someone is there sometng they are getting. in another e-mail suspect these folks are going overboard. a fast food restaurant is not a career job. this is where young people choose to work. if they raise the wage too high, many will lose their jobs.

and mcdonald's doesn't have enough employees, theyre left to raise wages. and there is that. and no one goes into a fast food joint to work and says that this is where i want to spend the rest of my life. that is, unless they want to become the manager or ceo someday. so let's get real. and let's also get real about this whole redsns controversy, especially as we head to the opening weend of professional football. and i've not heard anyone complaining about red skin potatoes. maybe the football team should be called the washington redskins potatoes. now, that is a compromise. they should be called the maryland redskins. and another rights, why not do a princeton and call them theteam formerly known. and how would you feel, you

arrogant individual, if they call them [inaudible] well, how about that. it felt like a very long week. kennedy: what you put in your mouth is your business. the federal government is still talking about the busybodies. and many reside at the fda. should governmental nitpickers stop you every time you want cherry cheesecake? just because it unds gross to you and your palate, we will separate this food from fact and government regulations be done. it's a food fight and this