cannot stress over holday shopping. of that is it for tonight on "the willis r neil: welcome, everyone. do you know why the president's poll numbers are low? because he talks too long and he goes on and on. i don't mean to disparage him. i'm just telling you that he can solve a lot of his own problems if he just truncated it. the proof came that today at a press report out in europe, addressing the timeline of nato's reaction to isis. start your watch is right now. >> let me start with the general point. there was unanimity over the last two days where isil poses a

significant threat to nato members area and. neil: i'm going to keep showing you this and you think that things are starting to get to t point. >> we have a critical role to play in rolling back this savage organization that is causing so much chaos in the region and is harming so many pople. and there is great conviction that we have to act as part of the internation community to degrade and destroy isil, that was extremely encouraging. >> that as an answer to one question, almost seven minutes. six minutes and 53 seconds are you and that's a verylong

answer. and you must say that that is what presidents do. but not l of them conduct press conferences like that. john kennedy and how he handled it as well. > can youdescribe your personal role and did you make any suggestions or metz no, i didn't. this is the defense department. >> is there anything to the reports that the postmaster general will be with replacement for the election campaign? >> no, no. >> are you able to tell us something. >> would be what you plan to do if you don't get a tax cut? >> i plan to get a tax cut, mr. morgan.

neil: ina typical press conference at st around 50 to 52 minutes, jfk would take upwards of, depending n the urgency of the news, anywhere from 2842 questions. this president on average, seven to 12 questions. and i think that is the crux of the president's problems. he goes on and on. maybe it goes to thisage, but the fact of the matter is that when you are going on and on, you lose people's attention span. >> yes, well, he was the master of the press conference. xtfour conferences in less than three years. he loved the jousting. he mastered the details.

he used humor to disarm. neil: he also had no problem with a short answer. one thing that i noticed is how quick and to the point it wise and if you didn't have a answer, he would say yes or no or whatever and give a quick response and move on. >> someone once asked him if he would debate his opponent for the 1964 presidential campaign ande said yes, i would herriot someone said, did you know that they have voted you the worst president in american history in some cases, and he laughed and said i assumed the vote was unanimous and he med to the next question. neil: another thing i noticed, and maybe it's just me. president obama knows who he's going to call on. he would come there and they

all seem to get their questions and. >> he called on so many of them. of course, he played favorites like all presidents do. but he really seemed to be enjoying himself and he did not act like he was in the dentst chair about to have a tooth pulled and i think he was having done. >> a lot of pridents don't like that. but theresidents seem to know and enjoy the give and take and so what has changed and is this thing that has slowly morphed to this. so what has changed? >> is partly kennedy's own persona and style. he said he wanted to be a newspaper publisher when he left office and he had a lot of experience and i wasn't all smoke and mirrors. he had been elected to congress

and then the senate in 1952. he knew the federalbudget and he knew how the government work and he showed that in his debate with nixon. and he had a great sense of fun abt it. he loved beg president just like ronald reagan. they loved every single day that they had in that fice and they had a sense of joy about it. down to the last y in office for fk, he loved that job and engaging people in the press and he had the confidence to doit. even though his answers were brief and concise, if you look at all press conferences, you will see that most of the time he actually answered the question. he didn't dodge or change the subject. but he usually answer the questions directly. neil: anhe would just say no at times. you would think that kennedy, just as television was becoming

influential, he argued that he got elected in the first place. that this president was no chump when it comes to appreciating the gravity of the media. you'd think you'd be all over it, but he is not. >> it comes down to personality and being concerned with not taking risks. he was the first president to do live televised conferences. he reveled in it. and here's another thing why work for him. he was not afraid to take responsibility. when he was at a press conference talking about the abysmal failure, kennedy could have said that it is the cia's fault or eisenhower's fault or the joint chiefs is that but he said i don't want to get into details, it's not safe. but i will say this, victory has 100 fathers and orphans. i the respnsible officer. essentially he's saying that i'm in charge and it is my fault. and his approval ratings went up because he admitted tht.

neil: that is true. leaving the blame game aside, i look at press conferences with a bit of an entertainment vibe. a young president coming after an old president, but he was up for the jo and the rigors of the job. but properly used, a press conference can be gold for you. can he oes not deal with it? >> ion't think that he enjoys it. and it doesn't show a natural love the way that jfk dead and that is a personality issue a also presidents are so protective now that they give nonanswers. jfk cut right to the chase. if jfk were here, he'd give a lot more ansers.

he said when a chimpanzee went to space, he said the chimpanzee says erythinis perfect and well. neil: a fema reporters that were you doing for women today, mr. president. and he thought for a second and he said sure not enough. neil: it was a way for hm to zhang himself and still have fun with the subject at the same time. >> youcould always laugh at himself. neil: james swanson, thank y so much. it hit me today when i heard the presidents ansr in what turned to be a little bit more than 13 to be a little bit more than 13 or 14 minutes of an address to ok, if you're up there, i could use some help.

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neil: nancy isis is looking bad enough. but how about al qaeda. the last time we sought to terror groups getting stronger, i'll tell you. the joint german chief of staf in 9/11 commission confirmed after. i don't know what they promise,

other benefits, more pay, i'm not sure what it is. that al qaeda is clearly alarmed. >> i think that these groups are mutations of one another and i think that we should just be aligned if they are still continuing this call for g5 and many women want to join it and sacrifice their lives in a ruthless way for a caus in the end that will not win anyone over. neil: why is al qaeda worried about the sis enrollment? it's kind of like, these guys are stealing our thunder. what? >> i don't know. it's hard to know that. al qaeda has been the preeminent, if you will, rrorist organization for a long time in terms of the ruthlessness and we saw that on 9/11. neil: who is more ruthless? >> well, al qaeda has at least

3000 victims that we all know very well in the united states. and so ihink that, they are both probably equally ruthless. if they could get their hands on weapons of mass destruction, illogical, nuclear, they would certainly use them without any remorse or hesitation at all. neil: do you get a sense that we are losing out with some of this. that everything seemed to be expressed in a matte of weeks if not longer. and what is your sense of this? >> my sense is that what we are doing currently in iraq and perhaps in syria is appropriate. but there's a longer-term issue and that is how you get people to not want to join jiad. that will take time to develop this with our friends and allies and partners and that's a much longer term solution to this.

but it can't be that the military keeps playing whack a mole with terrorists in thinking this i going to go away. cause it's not. this is going on for decades and it will continue unless we have a more comprehensive strategy. i think we're doing what we should be, but it may take time to develop this long-range strategy. i hope we lead with that and we have the focus to lead with that. neil: so someone talked about this at a threat level, and we have not as yet, a lot of folks are getting kind of answer you. are we adequately preparing for god for bid? >> well, i think what we knowis that these groups do create havoc when they thought they were successful.

9/11 is certainly one of those. we are much better posture today than we were on 9/11 to detect that. and so i think that our government will issue the appropriate cautis when they know there' something to be worried about. neil: they always talk about more ctter and we have heard indications of more chatter, many times on anniversary date and it's something that comes with the change in the calenda. but obviously they are talking about how they can improve this, that it's already here. >> i thi the fact that they surprise theworld in iraq doesn't bode well for what we know about them now. the we are probably scrambling to get our intelligence together. but again, we are much better

posture today than we were in 2001. and so i would expect that we know a lot. maybe not everything. but it's one of these things where there e so many of them and we are a free society and things can happen. but i think we're much better postured and we just need to be cautious. neil: thank you very much, sir. okay, it is one thing wn it's home depot, it's one thing when it is targeted and any number of companieshat do business with the government. but it isquite another when it is the government and it doesn is the government and it doesn involve tens of thousands of [ hoof beats ]

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neil: one of our fvorite segments. what is the deal? a lot of you slipping insults when you are complimentingyou. carol says i love neil cavuto. and it gets even uglier. meanwhile, hot celebrities, home depot, and now healthcare.gov. hackers are hitting everyone, including the united states goernment, which would beyou. to howard schmidt who has seen this play out again andagain. and nate bradley onthe high cost of that protection. what is going on, and why now? what happened there? >> that is the ting that we

don't know right now. the big surprise is that it's taken six weeks from the time that they installed them out where to discovering this. and it was done by all accounts. smitty was actually looking a this where we have this technology where we do continuoumonitoring and it's basically scanning the system, looking for more abilities to get them fixed. and this is just one more step of finding systems that are vulnerable and exrting them. neil: why is there a lag in which we find out that happened a month ago, it happened six weeks ago. why isthat? >> threat detectionechnology cost money. and in particular if you look at our government struggling ith this, companies as large as home depot struggling, it's very

naïve to think that you can overcome the hackers on their own. neil: what you do? >>ou buy insurae and your budget and when you raise the money, you allocate the funds for this issue and you cannot do business in any large-scale on the internet or mobile without taking security first. neil: but if the united states government can't police itself, how we going to be able to do it two. >> that is the point. the same but abilities that exist in the consumer world and the small-business world that we were talking about, they exist in large enterprises like the governnt. and the government has had the technology to basically stomp these things down. it's not whack a mole. we have to start executing on the strategies and the plans and

the security people that i talk to are so frustrated. there's always focus on something else and the security onlyops up when something like this appenred. neil: who is doing this? you and i were talking earlier. i always get this feeling that it happens so often that they almost seem like they are teaming u sometimes. >> there is certainly an increase in the values of ou data as we move health care and gay more services that are internet and mobile base. the value of a is great. d this includes individual groups that can benefit and broker the data. individual organizations that have a vested interest in us. neil: on of you and i have chatted with our.

but t grand prize for terrorists in tran-sixes to zero out aericans ank accounts. to have them discover that there's nothing in their account and nothing would stop this economy like that, and they know it. >> one of the things is they don't need the expertise. whether it's home pot or healthcare.gov or target, whatever he environment is. the information gets publicized and iwidely available so they don't need the expertise. they can see what others have done and duplicated and worst worst-case scenario that yound i have talked about, it could be a real situation as opposed to something theoretical. neil: hollywood celebrities got involved, sohat would make a big deal. >> absolutely. and it comes do to value of the data and what has been monetized. it's unfortunate.

>> a rule should be probably not to upload pictures of yourself in the nude? >> well, yes. but again, the responsibility for companies like ours is to provide secityfor consumers and customers. >> so if i want to upload this, you would protect e? >> in terms of providing that service, it's possible. i appreciate what you're saying. it is something down to the individual level and you will be held accountable right. neil: thank you both very much. meanwhile, would you root for a team with this logo? with this particular logo? i didn't think so. one individual is using this

logo is the new redskins logo.

neil: incredible. we have not had a crrection of even 10 percent in years. that's not healhy. and here is another. a record low number. now before the crash and what happened in october, and so few are bearish that the contrarian argument would be that is going to be a contrarian problem. this willlive on. wary about the very, very few out there. >> well, it is sort of like

this. one reason that the rket has been going up, a massi correction in 2011, about 22%. but it is going up because you have this poliical association between the polits of the world which are a total mess. i mean very soon there will name one eastern ukraine western russia and all of a sudden obama's says don't worry about it. we have your back. neil: markets have always. >> the point is there are these. so far mentioned. laughing off. they think it's andvulnerable. it is not. the company is going to earn $0.50. the stock comes in.

f you reverse it nd you have 19 and 45 and one at 50 the stock comes in at 45. no reaction. right now everyone is betting on super high earnings. neil: of you not withstandin. this is not an obscenely rich market. >> i just looked at the data. there are a number of counter arguments. just using this data which was from institutional investors. the lat time and was near this low on bearishness and august 09 and august 11 the market was up 12 and 15 percent respectively the next 1 you know, the other argument is evryone is bearish. the other popular survey kaj

individual investors, we then have had th same bearishness since april and the market has been strong. neil: the hidden. they kept us going. that can't go on. >> cutting interest rates by a tenth of a poit. the differen between 04and 05. there is no difference. there is one country in eope right now basically called germany. there's a country to the east of germany called russia. those two countries have inordinate amount of power. it is a question of when something happens in germany

will not let you're gone. for whatever reason they have. neil: and he are whistling past the graveyard. markets tend to said dsconnect from the war reasoner out in the moment, but only to the moment are am wrong? >> no. you're right. the market could fall at any time. you could always make that argument. we look back. i should have seen t. those were the signs. you kno, you alwwys have to look at what the alternatives are. the fed at this point does not give any indication that it is going to start tightening. besides, where willpeople go th their money? they cannot put it under a mattress. we still hve a little bit of inflation. they can throw it into bonds. you look at the earnings. neil: this goes on a while.

price and always prepared. been for the market to corect. the trend is up. >> the trend is definitely up but for the same reason. there is no place to put your money. neil: the least you could do -- >> i'm sorry. i'm sorry, sir. ir, i'm sorry. i really am. for the same reasons you can say there is no place to put your money. that is a forecastf zero growth. how the german market. >> that argument, it's the same argument from six months ago.

you get out then. that's a recipe for no growth. a pretty good move on the market >> let me just point -- excuse me, if you made that argumen and a lot of people did, a couple of miserae months. they were the guys a or euros. neil: very eloquently. i'm not so sure about the president on illegal immigration ter the midterm election he could d be looking at granting amnesty to millions of illegals pleaded is just a matter of jobs . views on the subject. here is what that will produce. how about half a milln more coming into the country as a result. e never sold a hou whenwork with equity experts

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not matter off but when the president is going to announce a big delay. upwards of five versus million. it's not going to happen. granted pemanent status. hard to say. this much is not, if he were to do that my next guest says look for that to emboldened illegal immigrants comg to america, maybe by a factor of half a million in short order. with the details that, the center for immigration studies expert. explain why that would trigger more illegals. >> well, the current crisis we have been experiencing in south texas is the best evidence yet that the combination of a talk of amnesty along with lax enforcement in the interior of the country inspires people to come here illegally. numbers because of that. neil: what does that men?

is it a difficultprocedure? >> well, right now people are able to turn themselves into the bord patrol of the southwest border. it is not particularly difficult. it has done easier to get a visa . so word gets back. neil: to your point, that is a legal process. right over the border. >> well, both are going out. about 30 to 40 percent of people who are living here illegally now came in our legal visa. and there is very little enforcement, very little chance that they would be targets for enforcement. the same is true of the people who came over the southwest border. they have seen that if you come as an unaccompanied juvenile or a family you are allowed to stay here for at least three years

and potentially have access to a green card. they know that not only will they be welcomed and released into thecountry but even if they skip their hearing they have very little chance that they will be deported. il: lol authorities or police hand them over. it is a revolving oor. but the way we're treating and now dot the ilegals. yes, according to interews that have bee done by a border patrol intelligence, journalists and others people are telling us that they're coming because friends and family who are already here told them that nothing will happen to them and that they will be releed into the country.

theyhave seen it happen to their friends nd family. ou bacally have to have been convicted of a serious crime to be subject to to immigrion enforcement. neil: no guarantee. very much appreciated. meanwhle, what i am about to say, something that will offend some of the right off the bat. let's go. why am i saying the name redskins? becau that is the team's name. next to my find out who is going through groups not only to not say the team's name but to say the team's name but to replace the team's logo ith [ breathing deeply ]

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neil: i don't know, but i want you to do this. of what you -- i want you to see the hoops that not only the broadcasters but anyone associated using the term are redskins to wwhatever, butvery time. i guarantee you about four minutes into the game you're going to be smashed. what do you think? >> you know what, the point i keep trying to drive home about this is the national survey did a survey of native americans in

2004 and found 90 perct were not offended by that term. neil: to be fair, that number has gone up. u are still right. it is the majority. it was changing. >> exactly. the same outrage brought on by the media cauing this to happen now. everyone has to be offende by something. unfortunately by the left. neil: and other news network. there will not ven use the term redskins because to them it is offensive. furthermore, newspapers will not use it. there will not use the team logo . what the make of that? not a problem for the washington post. maybe that's because it's silly and it will risk.

what do you make of what's going on? >> they're just trying to it get attention and stir up ctroversy. 83 percent of reskins fans want to keep the name. that's a pretty high number. the washington area, washington d.c. is more than 50 percent african-american. people you would assume would be more sensitive to that are not. i'll live in new york, washington d.c. for nearly 30 years. people love their team. very protective. admiration and love and they understand it. people don't -- neil: their will be some groups here that want to start ptesting in boycotting those companies that are sponsoring or show.

>> right. e of the key factors that makes this right now 2014 different is the existence of social media. while the polling shows that -- throughout the number, 80 percent of native americans polled said they are not offended, bes buy is behind that. also now they have the power to talk back to the media an others. native americans and we don't want you to use the name. neil: so there is great risk in perpetuating the name if you are doing it and more or less selling that group. fine by us. >> i think that for the first time in historyhey have that power. [inaudible conversations] neil: government trademarked names. unprecedented to use their redskin name and all. >> we, part of the problem

with this discussionrally flamiy and under that political correctness umbrella, usuly the victims of these kinds. they don't have the political power to say i don't want you to use that. nave american people now have that power. >> i am the only one here talking who actually has native blood. [inaudible conversations] >> you are basically accusing people who are not -- [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> this is what these groups are doing, creating this average. [inaudible conversations] neil: you are arguing -- i know the environment. companies, any controversy. anyone who even as threatens

board, we will broadcast. we will not advertise >> that is exactly right. playing into this politically correct narrative. you hit the nail on the head. him. >> so offensive to me. the idea by talking. >> i would be outraged. >> i would be outraged. >> is similar none

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stay one and what is the deal with minimum-wage? restaurants would like to have it raised. some are saying up to $15. it could make many out of business. it is the raid raise too much, many won't go. i certainly will. and let me get this straight, one person said, a person should get $15 an hour with less than service like i have? that's an excellent point. and another writes to us, it's most like the country owes them something. roll up your sleeves and earn it. and carla says it's interesting to see how many protesters are

protesters. and many union contractor jobs are minimum-wage. and if others go up, others did it raises as well. and jan says, i agree, i can see increasing the minimum wage, but doubling it and holding the country hostage over it, forget about it. and forget the clueless clowns as well. and pepsi disagrees. tell me why someone who sits in corporate and corporate offices and does very little to contribute to my success of my restaurant should make a six-figure income while i make $2.83 an hour. but maybe if the people at the top are and what they actually earned, maybe that would be better. i'm assuming you're a waiter and you make tips to compensate,

unless you are a horrible waiter. and second,be very careful demanding folks make the money you think they deserve. r instance, tom brady, lebron james, many couldn't agree with you, but let's just say that market forces do not. in a sense, hands in the competition for best college coach. market forces deciding whether someone is there something they are getting. in another e-mail suspect these folks are going overboard. a fast food restaurant is not a career job. this is where young peole choose to work. if they raise the wage too high, many will lose their jobs.

and mcdonald's doesn't have enough employees, they are left to raise wages. and there is that. and no one goes into a fast food joint to work and says that this is where i want to spend the rest of my life. that is, unless they want to become the manager or ceo someday. so let's get real. and let's also get real about this whole redskins cntrovey, especially as we head to the opening weekend of professional football. and i've not heard anyone complaining about red skin potatoes. maybe the football team should be called the washington redskins potatoes. now, that is a compromise. they should be called the maryland redskins. and another rights, why not do a princeton and call them the team former known. and how wod you feel, you

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