neil: now. the white house is all over ebola, fox alert, it is already out of control, thanks for showing up. i am neil cavuto. what is difference between isis and ibolsa? one is a group of terrorists one is terrorizing, they are seen for the crises they are but i worry too late. white house said they set to launch an ebola offensive, only days after coming up with a strategy for isis. besides this looks like the fireman showing up after the

fire, does it look to any of you that the folks in charge are all wet? it is clear we were ouch guard -- off guard by folks that were over there, they are rail over here, but ebola. they seem out of control, and potential cure it out of reach for a nation, that is out of money. we will look at this ebola thing in layers to the doctor on how it is mutating. >> i am worrying, because as you rightfully said, people were sleeping on the job in terms of taking this crisis seriously. it is so late in the game. white house trying to call a 4th quarter audible with no real play in mind in terms of how to tackle it. it is multifaceted.

they don't have adequate people who are trained. there is not adequate information to the lay public. the number of people in the field, that the cdc has or anyone has now in terms of able to care forever these people, in west africa is less than what is actually necessary. it is probably going to be woergs in somworsein some repre. neil: you could make an argument that republicans were just as out to lunch on this, they originally rejected an increase in funding. but what is the risk, now responding? are you saying that there is a good shot or they are aware of more incidents not reported in u.s. because this does represent

a big 180 from their position, a week ago. >> it does. you know, as you look at sort of the spread of the virus, you know, you could have the infection for up to 21 days, and not necessarily know it. so i think that bigger concern is, how many people are mulling around the united states right now, that have been in contact with somebody in west africa or otherwise, that may be harboring the virus. neil: that is what i think changed here to explain this sense of urgency, they are aware, or others in washington of aware that this has now mutateed to something, that some fear could be airborne, there in lies mutation fears. >> correct. there is a mutation fear. neil: do you fire that? >> yes, absolutely, we fear that and what you also see is the

lack of trained professionals within the facilities that know what to do whether somebody contracting ebola. they have to be able to provide the support of services. a part of i think what you are hear in the announcement tomorrow, in the president goes to cdc. is that where they need to step up, all of the supportive services, and support provided within the facilities, i think you will also hear, how many more people, the cd cneeds to send out, and you will hear about defense department's role in terms of how they need to support facilitys is in liberia, the bigger question, who is in charge? where is surgeon general? the defacto executive in government who is supposed to be leading charge in the public he'll issues. neil: it -- health issues. neil: it was not him that

brought it up. >> you look at economics that go to congress wil ask for anothere 080 million. you and i have been on planes now, i don't see the public education happening in airports, about the risk. are we even stopping flights from coming to west cav rah -- africa, why haven't we. neil: that might be spelled out tomorrow, thank you. >> thank you. neil: administration is late on the ebola crisis, that is nothing new. it was late addressing an isis threat, that is nothing new as well. justice deputy is looking t stop homegrown extremists from joining isis.

to our fox bis all-stars. lizzy mcdonald. and noel, liz, is it better late? >> no. it is not, this ebola virus outbreak was 8 months ago, and u.s. and europeanly stood up and took notice when the two aide workers from u.s. had contracted it. the first time that ebola is in west africa, that means it is breaking through borders, we have w.h.o. also late to the game, europe late to the game. you know health care workers from w.h.o., leaving the region, calling in military that faces defense cuts to step in. that is not response, go in there make sure that fire is out, stop convening panels. about what drugs to use, just get in there put it out. out. neil: does this worry you? >> it does, and it worries me this is not a political issue, i hate the blame game, this is an

epidemic. neil: federal -- rejecting more ebola funding, so it becomes political. now, crisis. i guess we should worry. >> that is why i don't like their solution it to involve military. the military is funded to calm bat terrorism and wars, not combat virus. neil: what does that tell you? it must have escalated. >> you have to look at the faa, you need to look at cdc, and at other organizations to combat and help, we have stopped flying commercial planes in the region out and in, what about private? are there regulations for executives flying in? neil: maybe that is addressed tomorrow, i think it just raises

fears, because people always get, wait a minute, i hear joint chief saying this, that is out of my expected rel am of response -- realm of response, i worry the more. >> oh, totally, i think that people are worried more because ebola has been something we have not really had in the u.s. it is only been in outbreak films. neil: do you think that means that something happening here, and they are just going to get ahead of this for a little bit of hiney covering or what? >> i think ideally we hope it would be world health organization -- >> another group to lizzy's points that missed this. >> absolutely, they are acknowledgeing they were late it see it. they are not trained. neil: would you shut down the airports for a while? we had 7 airports, now down to

two. liberia and i forget the other. >> you are right. >> moving through bodily contact. and fluid, had not take than mutation right moving through bodily contact, part of reason it has spread as much and as quickly they don't have the sa sanitation devices y need. >> they will never get that. and no one has brought up fact they have to wear the suits, so hot there you are sweating, it is hot, there is no air. neil: they want to work there. >> would you. >> re referying, i am not sure e should rely on our own u.s. military, this is a medical problem. the w.h.o. or u.n. or cdc, or europe, europe should step in africa to war en kwa*eurp quara. >> i would agree, we all could

agree that virus does not know which organization. >> but we need our military to have good health, we have things we might be fighting with terrorism. >> our military is stretched. >> we don't need it over there. neil: something got to be out of whack for this concerted interest, on the part of the world? >> yes, i would agree. >> someone has information. remember aids virus, in aids break out, everyone was panicked. neil: i am way too young, i do not remember that. >> okay. >> this and sars, in 2002-2 2003. >> and mad cow. >> very good points, we'll take a break. when we come back, our top accountant at fox, tracy pwao*eupbtrace byrnes, after this.

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but brilliant. she was crunching numbers, saw this latest news that second round of obamacare sign ups are coming there could be problems, millions who think they are covered might not be. on and on, what is going on. >> the big picture is you are expecting government and irs to speak. you have a better shot of my children smoking at dinnerer . it you were in last year do not opt for automatic inrollment -- enrollment. there are 8 million that can automatically review themselves, depending on where they are income wise, they is miss lower numbers. neil: what has you worried about automatic? they are paying more? >> all that will change. now they have to file a form on 2014 tax return.

so that is where paperwork gets hairy, about 5 million more people coming into the system, enrollment system, november 15 to february 15. neil: they can always move that. >> they have, holidays, a lot might miss it. neil: tracy, government, is not going to just start throwing out huge penalty on folks are they or will they. >> we have seen worse. we certainly seen them do this, this is a such a huge penalty for people, when you file your tax return this year, it will be worse, it will affect more lower income. last year, first time out of gate, "high net worth" people that saw numbers medicare taxes, all that extra premium on payroll tax this year on lower income as well, and because of shorter condened period of time, there is more room for error. neil: for those who did not have insurance before, now they do.

argument is that look i am better how far than i was without it. >> i am saying i am not sure people still feel that way, it is that much more difficult to sign up they might opt out. neil: do you think when they were crafting this, they knew this was coming? >> no. neil: or that who was -- said i had no idea it would come to this i will do everything in my pour to avoid this. >> i cannot imagine they were that study up or did not see you on the blocks would fall. >> you remember pelfrey usaying -- nancy pelosi saying let's go read it, there is no way. neil: i think they knew, in her case they knew, and just get is signed we'll deal with details later. >> do you think they would really treat american people like this? this? neil: i have no idea. >> i think that is what is happening with mcdonald saying that walmart health care plan is better than affordable

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tax revenues top record 2.6 trillion this fiscal year, with that, we're still about 600 billion in the hole, now that is an improvement we're told, we're identify to the races. -- we're off to the races. why a fixation on what companies are doing? with the inversions. i am asking "wall street journal" james freeman, why that seems to be obsession and not addressing reasons why those companies are seeking out lower cost environments. good to have you, why james? >> thank you, neil, it is a mystery, we know we're not tracking about that much money. the implication of a report from congress' tax score keepers is we're talking about a small fraction of 1% of corporate tax revenue. but, when talk about root causes we were fortunate to break in

our paper news of a international index of tax competitiveness from tax foundation, answer u.s. is throughout of 34 developed countries, we're close to last in terms of the least competitive tax system in the world for business. neil: i looked at that, a lot of people were seizingo it saying does that include real tax rate that companies pay. that is never a published top rate. you say? >> there is a miles -- miles thamyth, over 39% in united sta, when you count state taxes there is a myth that big companies pay nothing. and i think this myth is perhaps perpetrateed by a few examples of where green energy companies benefiting from various set asides can pay low tax bill, if you look at effective rates u.s.

businesses are in high 20s, not competitive above for example raffarin headline -- average headline rate in europe. neil: they get attention allowing for tax they don't pay top rate. they are paying more than most countries abroad. i want to send this on tour panel, lizzy, one thing i see in this, is that, whether you buy the numbers or not, there does seem to be a fixation with getting money from companies or individuals rather than saving. >> that is right, or broadening the tax base to get more money in, i feel like we're on a learning curve, we're always fighting against a ve vegetative universe in dc, these cauliflower brains that don't get it. for i president or anyone in whe house saying this is their

mission accomplished moment, no way. we're no more in position to fix the en tight titanosaur ill am -- entitlement state. that is and -- we're not there yet. neil: a bad aa meeting. >> really bad. neil: i worry about, love the whatever money you raise, if you were to stop them all, get money back here. it really would not make a dent in this overall debt we have, say nothing of deficit. so i am wondering why can't they exercise a frack of that creativity, safe phoepbg more saving money. >> i think that is fair, we could look at spending we should look at the two factors that are driving federal spending, which is increasing health care costs, and aging population. aging population --

neil: why do you look at me when you say that. >> that is you know that is a big one, that is something real. neil: i agree. willy-nilly we throw good money after bad. >> are we then cutting social security and medicare. neil: i think that lizzy touched on something, can't we expand the tax base, everyone pitching in, i am not saying paye everyone paying top rate, and 47%, not praying federa paying e tax, some are military or elderly, i take nothing away from that but how did it get to almost half of the people in the country. >> i looked at report it was interesting that u.k. was 11, they beat us by 11 slots, they have socializeed medicine. neil: they are breaking apart as we speak. >> one thing, that i have

noticed is that obama would actually use executive order for something like that but denied who have helped him along the way, hispanic vote, to when he is not doing anything with immigration reform by executive order but we will go right now before midterm, try toicer sis this executive order. neil: james, my big worry is that by focusing on just this, we are never going to get past this. never going to get past the other side of the legend. >> i just have to point-out that, having a slow growth economy with a lot of people unemployed is expenseive for the government. it is hard to balance budgets, it is very hard to avoid big deficits we've seen that. so this is really about growth, and as far as how we get out of this, i think returning to idea that, what we all share is the objective of growing the

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preview of her coming white house run, do not discount her lesser known possible competitor, history can prove that favorites of the moment can be undone, hillary clinton finds out the hard way herd about 8 years ago. and look at wash redskining quarterback robert griffin with an ain'anthropologie kel -- anke injury, and his back up quarterback that everyone saying rg 3 who? >> i'm living proof, i worked for rudy julian, i loved, i would love to see him run again, he was fantastic. neil: on paper. >> okay. we were sure thing, you look at polls, and everything we thought we were winning fast forward, john mccain got the republican

nomination, picking sarah palin. and brocai barack obama won beag hillary clinton in the primary who know. neil: the little thing called the meltdown. >> whatever. >> there is one way down, if you ar-- if you are the inevitable pick. you can only go down. tim cook has come on full bore right now, we counted out you know truman, you know thomas dewey would win, no. you know, i think what is happening we're cannot underestimate the viewer or voter, they do not' to be told thousand think, they will -- told how to think, they will figure on tutt an out and make r choices. neil: do you lock at bill clinton. when he ran, he was the tallest

of the dwarfs. is that in cards here? is it a guarantee if hillary clinton as dangerous as it was in 2008. >> i don't think we have someone waiting in the wings like a barack obama, nobody who has, ph*erpbled aemerged as charismau could argue in left it is elizabeth warren. neil: what if all of "the other guys" eat away at it. >> that is possible but i don't know it, it would be great for hillary clinton to have a all right primary season, voters want time to get to know their candidate, i think she wants to s to come out fresh on today's issues. >> her crise presidential choice is key. neil: is she inevitable? >> they have done a good job of

solidifying she is on the current issues, not strong people against her within the primary right now. i think there is a sense to it but, at the same time, i worry that people, particularly if we end up with a clinton-bush head off, republican, i worry that what will say to american people, you can only get in, if you are part of the arrow stock rasy, people get out all together. >> interesting. neil: money behind hillary clinton. >> every presidential election year, money to raisin creases by a billion. this is insanity. neil: is her face tied to that of the president. if president's poll numbers are weak. >> look she has done i'm sorry, let's hug it out, she said we should have armed syria earlier, then said, you know -- neil: rand paul, said we would

be -- >> it does not make a difference. >> no. >> i think that everyone, from g.o.p., they are comparing their race to, you know can we beat hillary clinton, not have aing warren or o'malley or biden all can we beat hillary clinton, until someone else emerges it is hillary all the way. neil: interesting which means it is not going to be hillary. >> well thanks. neil: i go against the consensus. >> for a year. neil: i will make this predict, not hillary. >> oh. i am taking a dollar bit with bet with you on that. neil: that much, can we settle on a hamburger. you think that media gave this president's hard time, our next gift does too, he has prove, -- he as the prove. after this. there was no question she was the one.

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amount of coverage generally from major networking at least of that low rating, media treating this president differently from george w. bush and his approveal numbers when shea were sliding do tell. >> thank you neil. yes, difference is dramatic, looking back to same comparable period 2006, year of second midterm elect under bush. comparing that to this year, actually our friends at media research center have done numbers they show, 52 stories during bush's that 8 month period from bush, talked about his low poll numbers. well, this year there have been two on evening news talking about low poll numbers of president obama. this is typical. we see this ino top of that. you have issue of the sampleing

and over sampleing. whether they abcwashington post poll, somes they talked to 33% self identified democrats, and only 23% self identified republicans. so have you that weight factor on top. and president obama's numbers are lowest 52 to 42 disapproval over approval ratings, and that is a number that view his presidency as a success for a failure. neil: rodger, a lot of people say it was only really in last year, that president's numbers started to torpedo, and bush's low numbers were over an extended period of time, but they cover roughly the same period of -- that polling period, right? >> well, right but also back to 2010 look at obamacare.

and then roll out, there have been a lot of low periods so this is -- this number is consistent. and the low approval rating is stayed this way. >> do you think something is changing, a little bit swing in the way that media which typically has been supportive of this president is raising anxietyst anywhere it your strategy now. seeing more story like that? >> well, i think we're seeing more like that. now, and because people recognize that there is this vacuum of leadership in the world, he goes out, and one day, talks about isis. and as a jvteam, next day, said, i never said that, but records show he did say that, little bit

a big fat lie, and there have been a number of these things, and his changing positions, regarding isis, what to do about it then he always access like oh, no this has been my position all along, people see through that. neil: are republicans benefiting because he looks weak right now, or are they just getting out of the way letting him implode. >> i think more of latter at this points, they don't seem to have a solid unified position on too many of these issues themselves all polls indicate as much as people want to say that republican are engaged in a civil war, looks like they will do very well in november. >> interesting, rodger thank you, fascinating study, i appreciate it, rodger media editor. a quick quiz for you. it happened 6 years ago today.

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beyond turning it to a seaside resort, it has to be a mega-warehouse shopping destination, now a florida developer buying revel, he wants high-speed rail links between atlantic city and philadelphia, new york city, i am not sure that will be one thing to fix it. >> we're so focused on bridgegate, and other issues around chris christie. i am wondering if these issues, the economy itself is a issue. >> this is not good. one reason if you run for 2016 or run for higher was on the, a fact you leave your state with a great you know, economic -- the word leaves me -- about way. neil: it did better than it was with he came in. >> i had a rick perry moment. one thing he did do, he brokered a deal with united airlines, a

lot of times you had to fly into surrounding cities and drive two hours, he got uniteed to have them direct flight into at atic city. -- atlantic city that cuts down the drive, you have to sil sells as something rebrand new jersey and atlantic city, maybe that will help in same time, rebrand chris christie? neil: do you think when you look at it openly, it says something about others it tried gambleing on large scale outside of individual towners on casinos. vegas is it, and only vegas? >> i mean atlantic city did benefit for a long time for being only game in town. town. >> on east coast. >> and then you know with casinos popping up, pennsylvania, maryland, and new york. and connecticut. just does not drive that traffic. neil: vegas competes with tahoe and other areas highway do they do it right -- how do they do it right, beside that great break

breakfast buffet. >> las vegas has done a phenomenal job, they are where you go for bachelor, bachelorette parties and take your families. in a had miss america in atlantic city, they were brands like crazy. maybe bring more like that in? >> vegas sells, the gameing industry but they sell a lot of sex, you know what happens in vegas stays in vegas, atlantic city -- >> are you saying new jersey should make prostitution legal. >> thank you so much, liz. >> way to go. neil: this woman -- go figure, now to issue who, 6 years to day, after lehman brothers claned white house touting progress, a lots of banks are still afraid to lend because of the regulations, i see this, they are just returning to the norm, maybe when my parents were

around you have to hut put a cn amount down, and a good credit report. >> there is nothing wrong, than going back to the beginning, a lot of times that is hugh it was in old days -- how it was in old days, you had to have great credit put a certain aim down yada yada. lendingeer fear full, you talk o anyone on the street, you cannot get a loan, hard to get a home loan, forget a jumbo lone, forget $750,000 and over. neil: emily? it is still tough? that too big to fail is alive and well, banks don't want to go too far but what? >> i think one thing is that is driving this. we have seen this, not just the regulation, it is uncertainty in overall housing market. you know we don't want people -- we don't want to see a subprime

crisis, we don't want to squeeze out people at bottom, we want them to be able to access capital, but everyone knows this did not work. we were taking advantage of people on the bottom. neil: do you think it could happen again, we're setting ourselves up for a repeat. we'll rescue them? >> i'm not sure it will happen the same way. i hear your ., rent, clean up your act, until you get your stuff particular to bu togethery a home, iron make fed fed has laid ground work, making mortgages so cheap, janelle yellen says this is a headwind. neil: thank you very much, when we come back, you think that iphone has been a success? the new one? with site going down, people finding it difficult to get it, does apple have a hit on its hand?

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neil: what is the deal with the media breaking with the president and finally from this comment about isis to the health care law, faster than washington can raise taxes to cover it. and tipps says it's about time. and claire in boston says that's one thing you can count on with liberals is that they quickly dispense with the ones who does the them. and alex says with friends like these, reagan was right, who needs enemies. remember? and the conservative media, whenever you want to collect, they never really had a thing going or gave the guy shots regardless.

and we run out of patience when they dare ask for more and all i know is that they might be constantly clueless be your constant we obnoxious. and that means we constantly remind you of cluelessness. and then do i sound like an alarmist to you? hearing the government say that there is nothing to worry about, i immediately started worrying because the one thing that you learn about official reaction to a crisis is that it is way late in responding to a crisis. evidence today that the white house says it's mapping out a plan to develop an emergency. where have you been, guys? and anything that is killing the numbers is a potential threat to us all and i remember you also saying that there's no harm preparing for worst-case contingencies.

and emily says at first i thought you didn't have a clue about health issues and i read about your own health issues and i told my husband that only a guy could appreciate this and so i'm glad i gave you the benefit of the doubt even though my husband still think you are history on a right wing is's plate. and it sounds like you're right. sarah writes that i see it every day in my work and usually from doctors that they can't see it in front of their eyes. and they only get a clue when the crisis is beyond a crisis and that rise to a lot of people and fields and i think it could be happening here. but i hope not. and tipper rights ebola isn't a problem but everything else is. it is to remind americans that summer woefully prepared to deal with any outside calamity.

and i guess you agree with me. i am curious, by the way, do you really tell your patience when you're performing a scan or taking an x-ray. really? and samantha writes the only difference between you and the carnival is the least the carnival this upcoming place of authority unlike fox which has no authority. and please, stick a syringe in your eye. and if apple off to a strong start three they just keep up with a new demand for the phone and improves it. and heather in new york to be says is failing your customers by proving that you can't handle their orders as a part of this, sign me up for the next corporate gig that comes along. and apple always does this, i deliberately think so.

they make you think that they are off the charts but they are just off the wall. and the final will prove it one way or another. in the meantime, we are to know that millions of these phones have been sold to millions of those waiting and waiting. and that must say something right now. you said you are an apple shareholder, so what makes me think that you are not. because i always disclose that just like i always disclose more than a few criticisms and none of these latest offerings have convinced me otherwise. and then boring self-important anchorman who think that they can second-guess a tech giant. there's an application for that. downloading the mother lode of media manure. and there's an album for that. but i know for a fact that you have written many times about

this. so you must love the application or you are the one that is the mother lode of you know what. so there. see you tomorrow. ♪ ♪ no. kennedy: hillary clinton is back and she's getting lean and limber in her daily is workouts and she's taking her downward dog to iowa where she announced that she was running for president. we have to start paying closer attention to who's going to take over the white house in two years. but enough about bill. if she's going to inherit a war, how bad can she sing up foreign relations and the economy remap having the potential to do more damage to the world and one that