tonight and you can follow us on twitter on facebook and e-mail. while this anytime. from all of us here, will do i tomorrow. tomorrow. >> we're the party of choice. john: so say the democrats. >> if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. john: republicans say. >> this is the most antichoice administration we've seen. john: we like choices. i want to choose to put a pink mustache on my minivan, and act like a taxy driver, but they don't want he to do this. >> we have to pay big money for licenses, we have it get fingerprinted, pink nurse stash mustache has nothing. john: there coul could be too mh choice. >> we have frappuccino, andal

pacino. john: and the super markets? >> so much choice, that is our show, tonight. john: we talk choice, not much more important than health care. president sold obamacare saying it would lower costs, and give us more coverage, and more good choices. win-win. some people would gain better insurance, and if they done they wouldn't lose anything. >> if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. john: oops that did not work out so well. millions have learned that no, you don't get to keep your doctor, 6 million policies were canceled. but millions of americans without health insurance before now have it. that is why obamacare is good. says the doctor london of doctors for america. a group that wants government to

pay for more of our health care. on other side, michael cantor of cato institute, wrote a book saying we need more competition, less government. kathline, i agree with michael. but you say that obamacare is great? >> i am looking at number' people who came in before had to choose between paying ren or health care. or could not get it because of preexisting conditions or other reasons who are now able to get coverage. those plans that were canceled, were not really good coverage. these were plans that when you got really sick, they were -- >> greedy insurance companies were selling junk to people? >> number one reason that plans did not meet obamacare standards they did not offer a lengthy time for a maternitto be covered, that is fine, but if i am a 55-year-old gay man, i am

not worried about my maternity coverage. john: but we're in this together, don't we' everyone covered? >> sure, and obamacare has covered 8 million people, about half are pushed ied in edmided t loughly 5 million were forced to get other policies, i cannot buy the type of insurance they want, and i am pushed into a plan with a narrow network, and may not include my current doctor. john: i would not agree with you to say we' everyone covered. i want a free market, i want people to have skin in the game. >> we did that, it failed. john: when. >> that is what we had before. john: when. >> before. john: no. >> how. >> 990% were paid by billinsura. you get money from insurance companies. that is not a market.

>> back 40 years. john: we have not had it since world war ii. >> because of a incentive to hire employees because of big -- >> big government managing our lives reducing our choices now we have more with obamacare. >> insurance companies are more of the issues and frustrations you are discussing, i don't disagree on that mark. as a physician i have more difficulty dealing with private insurers than medicare. >> but that is is not case for long in 2017 when independent payment advisery board takes affect government will ratchet down reembuyers am rate -- reimbursement rates. john: somebody will ration either patient or private insurance company or government. >> it should be me, i should make that decision. john: pay your own bills. >> i should, but under

obamacare, i can't because i am mandateed to buy insurance, and buy a specific 5 o type of insue that government thinks that i should have. john: why do i have to buy alcohol rehab coverage, and diet care, and maternity care? >> that goes with we're a society. john: why don't i have a choice. >> your dietary choice, we're all paying for it, we have an obesity epidemic, diabetes is number one we have as an epidemic we pay for, we have alcoholism, these problems, you pay now or later, a lot cheaper to pay now, and maternity care, when we did not have that mandate, i was in the met med call school, i got -- medical school, i am with my md from yale, guess what a preexisting condition, i could not get covered. a physician starting -- >> tuition at yale, you could

pay your. >> i was paid $20,000 a year as a residence, i could not get maternity care. >> there are ways to deal with preexisting conditions that did not involve over charging young healthy people, and subsidize older sick people, why should someone out of college.

what are you doing about diseases, you get back to idea we're aie a society. >>tion peopl sphaopb people shoe responsible for their own life styles. >> you will ding people with bad genetics? >> look we could deal with preexisting conditions. we deal with people. >> no one dealt with it until obamacare happened. it was not a perfect plan, it addressed preexisting conditions. lifetime caps, and everything else, all issues that we have.

that were not addressed. as we move forward, we will continue to form it to something better. john: since we're all in this together, you say, and others have to pay for my cost, should we ban cigarettes and alcohol? >> i do believe in sin tax. >> require mandatory exercise every morning they did it in north korea. john: on that note thank you, and another fight about health care and choice, to me, a basic, medical, moral question is, who owns your body, i would think you do. in a free society, i would think that means you could go take risks, go skiing, drive a race car, or you could try a medicine that you think might help you. but in america, you cannot try a medicine without government approval, some people die

because the fda will not allow them to try a drug. >> you have a terminal illness which you have a right to try treatments to might save your life but not approved. >> mckalea died two weeks ago, he lobbied to save his wife but ran out of time. john: she died in april, the drug was approved last week. >> two brothers with an illness causing their muscles to wither awaying in they day there is no known cure but, younger brother was lucky, the fda allowed him to try an exper think at drug, max is getting better but his brother austin is not. >> my brother max can run, and walk, i can only stay in my wheelchair and watch him. john: our government will not allow somethin austin to try sog that worked for max. >> if austin is never given a chance to get on -- the drug, we

know with 100% certainty he will die. john: he will die, the government said no, there is any neighborhood news, 3 states -- good news, 3 states that passed laws if you are terminaly ill, the choice is yours sort of, you may try an experiment at drug, if you can prove you are terminal, it the drug company will let you have it and if fda does not order drug company not to get you, this happened because of work of think tank of goldwater institute. starly coleman works on this, am i characterizing this correctly, three states now? you can now beg and try to get something to keep you alive. >> innese 3 states -- those 3 states, they can go arounded fda on a drug company to save their own lives. john: but they might say no they

don't want to get in trouble with the fda . >> they might, we want people to have a choice to try to accept their own life without the government. government. john: fda said, we have a come patcompassion at use process, we allow nearly every expanded request to succeed. >> the problem with that program it takes over 300 hours are bureaucratic paperwork and wrangleing to get through the process there, have been a lot of documented cases of people dying while they are waiting for the fda to make a decision. john: it can take years, it routinely does. they allow them 3 years later? >> we're talking about terminaly ill people, they don't have 300 hours.

i am going to the drug company with an expe experimental drug,y will give me an answer, i will have a choice to try. john: josh has als, his family initiateed this process. >> it took josh's family about 3 years, he has hired a law firm to get through the process, crazy thing about josh, his story, that drug that he wanted to try, was manufactureed in virginia by an american drug company, already legal in italy. he just topped try it three years, they gave it to him after he had lost the ability to walk utalk, and feed himself, and swallow. john: bureaucratic nair i narrow mindedness they are not mean. >> no, they are procedures in place because they are trying to keep people safe, and there is you know, a good time and a place for making sure that aspirin, and tylenol, and zyrtec

is not going to kill us, but when you are terminaly ill, your option is certain death or maybe not, the fda needs to think about, how they address those issues. >> thank you, to join this argument please tweet or post on my facebook page. >> coming up, i put a pink mustache on my minivan. to celebrate choice in tax taxi service. >> and also evil republicans and evil democrats, they are both evil, because they won't let me make my own choices. i confront a democrarararara

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>> we're the party of choice, which is why i am tired, tired of republicans and others saying to me, i do respect your choice so get an abortion. >> that was democratic straeplisiststrategist julie, ds almost always talk about being a party of choice, and they talk about abortion, like, they are

obsessed, other choices? to sense your child to a school, not to join a union, to buy when you want to buy, democrats are not so big on choice, as they grow government, we have fewer choices here is senator rand paul. >> it is light bulbs, toilets, cars, you name it. yoyour freedom of choice is gone for a party who say they are pro choice party this is most antichoice administration we've seen in a lifetime. john: yes, as government grows, free choice shrinks. so let's turn democratic big government apologist -- >> that is me. i am a liberal that votes democratic, where else do i go, i don't speak for the party, i identify more with the los angeles worthe -- thetheir l word than d word,. john: let's start with school choices, why can i not send my kid to school wherever i want.

>> in sweden for example they used to, it did not work milton friedman model. some of those schools private schools are getting out of the school, and kids are getting screwed, and not only do you get to choose what school you go to school chooses whether or not they accept you. john: but they don't. >> there is less choice, less choice for student. john: how is your way working out for poor kids. >> it would work better if we put more resources in public school. john: why do i not have a choice of buying gun. >> choice is not one size fits all, you want a choice to have a northbound lawye -- nuclear weao you want to be pro choice on everything. john: most everything. >> i want a nuclear weapon on my front lawn. john: short of a nuclear weapon. >> you are not pro choice then. john: unions then. you are a union supporter, i

worked at abc, i had to join a union, aftra, i didn't' to join -- i didn't' to join aftra. i am not an artist. >> you are, your mustache is art. john: i didn't' to be lumped in with geraldo but i had no choice, new york is a union shop state, once a union certified add abc i have to join or i can't work there. >> you get benefits that union fights for whether you want them or not. john: it should be my choice. >> they have fought for weekends, 8 our days, right without child labor, you benefit from it. john: but why do i have to? >> because everyone benefits. the word collective, sounds like communism, we live in a society where there is a collective well being, you benefit, as i

mentioned for things that union members fought for, you pay into it you get the goodies, a pension. john: but i didn't want them. i could form an group of correspondents and negotiate for a pension. >> that would make a union? your own union. john: but that would be voluntary. that is better than forced. --- >> you use word force. but. there is mutual benefit from all, you benefited froed from wt unions accomplished. john: government health care. >> i want government to take over health care, it should be a right for all. john: government -- more government control? >> on certain things, not saying they should say what to eat, we have to have a health care, education, and a warm radiator, we have resources, we spend all the money on wash with no questions asked. john: thank you alan colmes, you

are buying warm radiators. >> i am not running. >> good. >> republicans are antichoice too, not just ain't abortion but antigay marriage, and drugs, and antispree speech in some cases, i will confront a republican next. >> is it possible to have too much choice. >> they have mocha chino, and frappuccino, and capa

john: i called democrats antichoice, pro choice on abortion but they don't want to let me eat what i choice, hire who i want, buy a gun, not join a union, not buy obamacare. and so on, this suggestions that republicans while antichoice on abortion are pro choice about most other things, but they are not. they have their own things they like to ban. tony perkins head family

research accounts, why can't i take any drug i want, this is my body. >> it your body, john, but consequences are paid for by the broader society. >> we pay for damage caused by cigarettes and alcohol should we ban them. >> we limit them, we restrict them. we don't ban them, but, what we're talking about here is something that has been illegal, that we're trying to make legal. in app co alcohol we tried banng that, it did not work because of it alreadyining legal, but thiss drugs, they are being controlled, talking about legalizeing them once that happens, there is no turning the back, consequences will be high for the society as a whole, we will all pay the price. john: i am nervous as i age, get sick i will be in great pain, i

would like control to inmy own life when i want to -- end my own life when i want to, why can't i? >> a difficult question, a lot of people have struggled with the end of life issues, look at actual numbers are. oregon, assisted suicide has been legal for about two decades now. john: and now montana, vermont uand washington. >> true, but we have history to look at in 20 years, we've seen an increase in just general surside, up about 41%. in oregon compared to other states, and there are cost associated with you that a lot of time people do not succeed, and literally talking millions of dollars a year tax payers pay, as a result of those who try to end their lives, unsuccessfully. and their health care cost relateed to that. john: but, that is the aberration. if i am in horrible pain, why isn't it my choice? >> again, it is human life, we

talk about -- you talk about devalues human life, your choice, your choice that we make each day have impact on other people. we have decided as a society there are certain choices that impact is such in -- so significant that it affected broader society that is choices we don't allow. john: moving on. why can't i mary a man? >> -- why can't ama rrarc man - marrkwr*rpbgs a man. marry a man. >> tal [talking over each other] about why -- let's talk about why government is involved. marriage is beneficial to the society. the reason that government benefits is because marriage

benefits society. john: why can't i gamble. i can buy a lot of guns but i can't bet on this week's football game. >> if people topping -- want to gamble that is their business, when the government becomes a port to it, and promotes it, does not police it like you should, i would be opposeed. john: can i burn a flag? >> i would be opposed as one who serveed in u.s. marine corps, and seen people give their lives, it something we hol holds sacred. >> john: free speech. >> out of respect for those who fought for your right to do that you should not do it. >> i disagree. >> should pornography be banned. >> against the consequences that come from that. john: yes or no.

>> i think current standards is obscenity, should be banned. when luke at wha look at conseqs of that people playing that out. john: should a woman be allowed to charge known have sex? a boxer makes money off his body? >> i do not believe we should decriminalize prostitution, where we see that happening is where the government's to get involved and tax it, they end up making money off of it instead of regulating. john: thank you, tony. perkins. >> next. tkpwhrae to realet's go to realr daily life? have you been in the super market lately. so much choice. does this enhance our lives? i am overwhelmed. i am overwhelmed. my next guest said no, it check out all these airline seats.

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john: i have 557 channels, with nothing on them, we'res if youier now radio fussier now with this. choice is a good thing but do we have too much choice? let's go to super market. >> tomato bash,al natural, vodka sauce. >> my small super market offers a lot of spaghetti sauce. >> fire roasted, what is that? is it better than roasted garlic. john: it reminds me of a rant by comecomedian denis leary.

>> you can get coffee flavored coffee. john: people are arguing today had we have top of choice, a book -- we have too much choice, a book about choice that argues more is less, that is the subtitle. barry, more is more. >> well, of course more is more. but question is, does more get you more. and what research i sum ar rise suggests is no. that three things happen to people when there are too many choices, one, instead of being liberateed they are paralyzed. john: that does happen. >> you walk out with no spa spaghetti sauce. if you walk out they make bad choices, when there are too many options, and dimensions, chances go up you will make a mistake. and third thing, if you choose well, you end up less sa satisfd

is so easy on imagine that one of the other choices was better than the one that you made. john: you governmen want governo limit choices. >> now, no, people suffer with too much choice, sometimes government should play a role. john: i don't see anyone walking out of the store empty hand. >> they walk out with less stuff than they would have walked out if there were fewer options. john: come on, stores north s not stupid. >> they are remark a remarkable, there is a huge impetus on part of producers to offer more choice, in the fight for real estate in the supermarket, pepsi offers 12 different varieties because every inch of shelf space that taken up by spacey is

an inch note taken up by coke. john: paradise was old soviet union. >> come on, no one saying that no choice is ideal, the ideal -- right aim of choice, if you say how much, i say nobody knows. john: i am glad you don't top limit them. there is one area in my life, i am glad it government did limit choice, television, get my start in tv, clueless politician said they had to put limits on cable tv to protect poor people, because they were a threat to public tv, i made more money. i worked in a place where you could only get 5 channels, you watched me because you had few other choices, england, sensible politicians went to deregulates established tv, they a b b ls bbc sketch

mocks it. >> we must strive to offer the consumer a far greater choice, for too long broadcasting has been only for the elite, he must expand and offer fo more choice. >> your cutlery sir. >> they are small coffee stirys. stirers. >> you have more choice you get more garbage and more good stuff, there are 57 channels with nothing othere were 4 good things now 800 channels most of worse than crap, they are bad, there are more reallyic len options --ic len option economys for people. >> john: fearing too much choice

and dictate or chi ship like noh korea, main escaped. >> most important thing i is a thought that even a prison like me could eat chicken and pork, if i could escape the barbed wires. >> that is what freedom means. s. john: choice of food is greatest gift of god. >> choice of food that was so great, what is great is able it eat decent food, if he were stuck with chicken it would have been a improvement over what he got in the north korea prison, i think that it is a tkpweufpt from god tgift from god to eat , i think that there is good reason to let people make choices. i would never dream of restricting options, i am just saying, when you give people, what they say they want, which

is more choice, it does not make them better off. john: starbucks is stupid? >> how many people go to a starbucks and order the same damn thing every day. >> they keep opening new stores. >> people like to go to starbucks, arguably in spite of all options offered not because of them. them. >> thank you barry. coming up some people do want to outlaw me, and my pink nurse mustache. >> we pay big money for licenses, and printed and insurance, pink mustache has nothingúo í

john: you may have noticed there is a new thing called niittymaki, some americans -- the internet, some americans have these things call a smartphone, this has changed life for better by giving us more choice. for example, there are now new taxi services like uber, and side car that offer an alternative to traditional taxis, you book the car on your phone, and the driver picks you up, but if you want to make extra money, you can, i did it

for a company called lyft . >> we have to put a ridiculous pink hus tarb o mustache on thet helps them to identify the car. >> where are you headed? >> i could make some money, people got a ride, so many people like these new services that uber valued $18 billion. >> i think it is fabulous, go to town, it is causing so much buzz for disrupters of the world, you don't' more regulation. john: maybe we don't, but there are rules, uber and lyft are illegal most places, what is going to happen, adam keeps an eye on this for the technology policy program. what is going to happen? the companies grow but they are illegal? >> for too long, many lawmaker

told us that regulation is put in place to protect consumer interest it has inevitable tined consequences -- unintended consequences and could hurt the consumers, uber and lyft are provideing consumers with a real option they want. john: which is what consumers want but taxi companies points out, hey, we have to awa aobey e rules po to make sure we're safe, and licenseed and insurance. >> the better answer to put everyone on the same playing field, by like rallyizing mark -- lik liberal asizing markets. john: uber is in the country, companies are not saying mother may i, they are following what

you talk about in our book permissionless innovation, just doing it. >> they are offering these options, and consumers' those. >> a million customers and politicians are saying maybe i'm not going to get elected if i enforce the rules. >> that is right, that is why i'm ostmimic these new service the will pre veil there is a demand, they want high school high quality service, they were tired of stinky cabs, and high prices. john: that is great for internet businesss that work on my phone, if you want to build a new car or chemical plant, or build homes in a new way, then you can't do it quickly, regulator bruscrush you. >> it is harder in older economy sectors. we need to give it a chance, options keep growing. john: regulators not happy, and cab companies want to ban the competition, in san francisco they held a protest.

>> cabbies lined up, then let them sit. >> we have to pay big me money r licenses, and we have get fingerprinted, and pay commercial insurance, pink muss mustache has nothing. john: you are trying to ban the competition? >> no, we like competing with companies that follow the rules. john: they are trying to stop consumer are choice, say that well, we have always had it this way, keep it this way, but that because it served their interest, not the consumer, we have to changing the rules to benefit consumers. john: virginia banned it, germany banned it then said oops no. >> consumer fought back, they showed their electedey wanted o. john: lobbying continues usun light foundation said that taxi industry, is spending as 3,000

dollars to politicians, for everyone dollar that uber lyff and side car give. >> this is just more cronyism, they have always benefited they want to protect what they got, they will lobby lawmakers. john: so, uber fights back, with video? ain't ride sharing -- antiride sharing regulation? though this celebrates benefits of choice, names places like or -- orlando, florida that restrict it. >> it is great they can talk back. john: a few more wonderful new options from this sharing economy like, shared meals, and a strangeer's house. >> thanks for having us.

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we vote with our dollars in private sector, and often for more stuff, and to win our votes businesses must adjust, all of the time every minute, competition requires businesses to innovate, or lose votes and die. also, and most important, politics is a package deal. vote for obama you get obama policy, but in free market, have you a million choices, take food shopping, there are a lot of different super markets with different prices, suppose we chose food the way you choose politicians two choicess s donkey meats or elephant meat. every 4 years people vote for either one of those meats, no matter how you voted, you have to eat what the majority picked.

in the free market supermarket, i can pickl donkey and you can k the elephant, we each get what we want. government bureaucrats try to stue they donald ways stop the -- don'ta always stop the innovation. web sites like eat with, and feastly allow cooks to connect with strangers willing to pay to eat with and meet new people at y don't away restaurantne's regulations, but more customers choose them. >> cheers. >> like wise new home sharing services like, thrive, and if you visit new york, you don't

need to pay for a hotel room, you could stay in someone's apartment are i for less. the predict age group able grout like this. they have this video showing how bad some rentals are, i am sure some homes are this bad like some hotel rooms are this bad. but beauty of choice is, you don't have to stay here. i don't think that antichoice people get that their concommercial dem straeults that demonstrates thatconsumers are t regulation, they are have public reviews, bad rentals like these will not suffer tourists again, as long as people are allowed to make choices and speak about them, consumers are better off,

we must not allow politicians to limit our choices, they don't know what we' or will want. a few years ago, america would see we need more expenseive coffee shops, who knew? government did not know, if we let government make the decision we will have fewer choices or no choices, the empty shelves and shortages in soviet union. when americans go shopping we don't thank free enterprise for the choice its provides but we should, the simplest super market a wonderous thing. 30,000 -- food is unbelieve abily cheap. aisles are wide, well lit, story istores open all of the time, they rarely poison us, they are america yet we take it for granted, next time you go

shopping, stop say, thank god for free enterprise and the choice it gives us. thaty our show, see you next week. to say you are an idio becaus. have a wonderful weekend. kennedy: coming up next, boots on the ground defines a costly and deadly groundwater. and so can we win against isis? we will hear from military that whether it's possible to win by air alone and how we can smartly cut military spending without sacrificing security and how well-intentioned campaigns turn into a problem and how that preserves our freedom. if you are torn as to what to do about isis, you are not alone. but tonight, we leave it up to our military brothers and