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these developments in the story everybody is talking about. a fourth american infected with the virus, an nbc camera man in west africa is on his way home. the family of thomas duncan under quarantine, they're getting cabin fever but some of the send their children to school before they were ordered to stay inside. united airlines contacting all passengers who travel on planes with mr. duncan. they cleaned those planes and back in service. there was a breakdown in electronic record-keeping that allowed mr. duncan to be sent home after his initial hospital business. here it comes the anxiety and the questions. should we restrict travel? should be tested at airports? how do we cope if more cases are confirmed in other cities and other states? "varney and company" is about to begin. ♪
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stuart: the ebola story coming up in a moment but first the triple digit move for the dow jones average, the jobs report helping fuel a rally. 248,000 new jobs in september, pretty solid report on the top line. dig deeper. you will find the economic disconnect, a running theme on this program, the labour participation rate, percentage of people who are either in the workforce or looking for work, 62 points, that is a 36 year low. we are watching hong kong. influences on the market. images from the crowd today show perot china president, approach china people fighting with the democracy protesters. those demonstrators have called off their talks with the hong kong government because of the violence against them. more on that coming up. jpmorgan chase admitting 76 million people have their personal information act, not their financial information. the bank says you don't have to change your password.
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no impact on the stock. it is etna one dollar and $0.59. ebola, we are joined by a doctor who says people do not need to be worried, the virus can be contained and there will not be an outbreak. director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases dr. anthony joins us. thank you for being with us. i will pose the same question to you as i have to other doctors and medical professionals on this program recently. if i am sitting in an airport or an airliner or the emergency room, sitting next to someone who has the ebola symptoms can i catch the illness from him? for example if he sneezes and i have a small cut on me can i get it? >> you are talking a hypothetical of a hypothetical. in general unless you come into direct contact, touching or putting on your face or whatever bodily fluids like blood, vomit, diarrhea, you are not at risk
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for infection. when you talk about somebody sneezing -- let me finish. it has not been transmitted by the respiratory route in years and years of experience. in biology you can never say 100% but if you look at years and years of experience it has not been transmitted by the respiratory route. stuart: you are a man of science in a difficult position, you got to calm things down. but that is exactly what people are saying. you can't rule out totally a contagion or an infection by contact with somebody who sneezes on you. that is what has got people worried. >> i don't think they should be. you talk about there is nothing in the world that is 100% risk free. you talk about people that are concerned if they're sitting next to somebody who is on a plane who actually has ebola but is without symptoms. i get that question all the time. the chances of that person
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transmitting are so low it is probably lower than the plane crashing. you can never get anybody an absolute but fuelling fears on hypotheticals of hypotheticals is not productive. stuart: i have got to ask the questions because we are picking up a high level of anxiety so i got to ask those questions. >> i understand that. stuart: do we run the risk of hospitals and medical facilities being literally swamped with people with flu symptoms thinking they have got ebola and a real shock to everybody's system because a lot of people going to the hospital with flu symptoms. that is a problem, isn't it? >> no. let's just take that and dissect that for a moment. i am in omaha or in boston, there is no indication whatsoever that there is the wildest chance in the world that
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my symptoms are due to ebola because the patient who came in came in to dallas and the people with whom that person had contact with is being traced and observed by the health official so if someone is in a different place and worried that if they have symptoms they have the ball you just got to look at that and say that is not something to worry about because it is essentially impossible. that is the message we've got to get across. stuart: you have a difficult situation here because the public is pooped, highly anxious about this and you got to clampdown on that. how about, what about restricting travel? what about testing at airports? are you in favor of either? >> what is happening right now is if you or i were in liberia or hat at fever or symptom and try to get on a plane to get out of liberia we would not be
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allowed on the plane so there already is the screening to determine if someone is infected. if you are transmitting of the virus you have to be symptomatic so if you don't have any symptoms even if you are infected, you will not transmitted the virus. stuart: we understand mr. duncan lied to get out of west africa and come here. >> eli. he lied through the pre but he did have afer, nid he symptoms on the flight and for four days after he got off the flight and was there until the 24. he landed in the united states on the 20th and began to have symptoms on a 24th. stuart: would you be in favor of stopping all travel from west africa to the united states? >> at this point no. i would not.
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i can't fink of a scenario where you would do that because right now you have the capability corni o and blocng cntri and ansptati, wh you do is you probably wind up paradoxically having more harm than good. the implications of completely closing off the country are very significant so you have to be very careful. i know you try to do things to protect yourself but you got to be careful you don't do something that has nothing to do with protecting you but could have a difficult consequences. stuart: very difficult situation and you are right in the middle of it. thank you for joining us. to oe n ur of the next hour, t city not yet at ease very clearly, people pulling children from schools, some of them that is. the mayor of dallas 12 new in this program. check the big board, stocks
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higher in anticipation of -- what is that? the fed raising rates? i am not sure about that. it was a pretty good jobs report on the top line and the market is up in part because of that. the dow is up 141. the s&p 500 is up to little more in percentage terms, 18 point rallied there. how about the price of oil, where are we? below $90, $89.70. the price of gold is down sharply today, $20 loss at 1194. gold down double digits so how about gold stock, gold mining stocks. nicole: so much story pertaining to commodities and gold so here are the gold stocks, down 3.2%, i will get too fat, 3%, below the 1200 mark for gold for troy ounce and what is interesting is watching gold dropping, we start
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to see the production they need. but this could be an ebola story. that is because gold, copper, iron ore, much of it is produced in west africa and that area overall, sierra leone, liberia, if this continues to spread it becomes problematic,. a bank is bringing this to our attention and i know we touched on airlines, hotels, areas where people congregate, disney, see world, now we look at these commodities, a lot of gold production is in that area. stuart: ebola fallout. thanks very much indeed. let's move on to the other big story this past week which is hong kong. a live look into hong kong, pro-democracy protests are continuing. police are warning demonstrators to clear the streets or face arrest. there are reports that the numbers are down all little bit. look at this. fights breaking out between some
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hong kong residents who are probe paging and protestors who are pro-democracy. joining us by phone from hong kong is a correspondent who has been following this since the protests started 12 days ago. >> the pro beijing ones are fighting with pro-democracy demonstrators, non-violent demonstrators who were pretty well identified as groups paid by some extremists factions. and mostly young college students, more than university students. and to get them to the point that police decide to evacuate
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the professors. stuart: is there a suspicion that the hong kong authorities orchestrated the attack on the demonstrators? >> exactly what it was going to make, the instance, how useful these are in the sense that it is now clear from occupying people or the barricades that have been dismantled, and we move on to something else which is completely different. and they are happening, people are hitting each other and get to each other and a very long road, crowded with thousands of people and cordoned off police trying to keep them separate but it is a really nasty scene and they have a lot of people
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already, the reputation of the movement which was violent. stuart: thank you very much indeed. i want to tell everybody i happen to know nathan road extremely well, a very populated area and to have violence breaking out in that densely packed tight environment is the new twist in the hong kong story and an ugly twist at that. we will follow it. thanks very much. you have heard us talk about a black swan event if you watch this program. something totally unforeseen rocks the markets like ebola, isis, hong kong, something we haven't thought of yet. ed butowksi doesn't think ebola is a black swan event. are you going to advise your clients to sell because of ebola? >> no. ebola has zero impact on the stock market, zero impact on the economy today and i don't know any reputable institutions that would be making a move based on
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ebola. stuart: charlie gasparino, any reputable person -- let's bring in charlie gasparino. >> listen. this is my opinion as a guy who gets paid to sell stocks and get people to stay in the markets. i wou. i am a reporter. when i go out and talk to traders, when this ebola thing broke the other day i got recalls from repeatable freighters, not like the unrepeatable ones ed is talking about. repeatable traders who said those talks have any additional information than what is out there? is there a second patient? a weiner outbreak in the u.s.? if you think of that they didn't trust what they're being told. it has become part of the market chatter among traders. when that happens i can't tell you ebola will be the black swan that will destroy the market but clearly clearly, this has been
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going on for weeks, i have heard this from a lot of traders, what might be the impact? traders to interesting things. they look at all sorts of headlines and try to gauge that impact on the markets. the fact that they are talking about it, the zeitgeist of the trading community means it is different. a guy who sells stock to people, the last thing he wants to do is have these guys start blowing out their positions. stuart: stick around, more for you to go at today. is a crisis of confidence, losing faith in government. isis, secret service, the economy, the irs. stay right there. fox news's bret baier is next. know that chasing performance can mean lower returns and fewer choices in retirement.
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stuart: the dow industrials triple digit gain, 0.8%. nicely done. 16,900 is where we are. price of gold is down, $20 loss puts it below $1,200 an ounce. the price of oil $89 a barrel moments ago, $89 and its descent now, it is down 1.5% and the national average for regular gas $3.32. 2 dozen states have at least one gas station where the price is
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below $3 a drive, don't feel guilty. the earth has not warmed for tweet to decades said he facetiously. we are calling this a crisis of confidence in the government. go for my system ebola to the secret service, a long list of government incompetence and bureaucratic failure. bret baier is with us. the president believes very strongly in government. when you have a crisis of confidence in the government ensure the rebounds badly on the president, doesn't it? >> it does and you are seeing that in polls. not only his approval numbers but an overall concern about security, safety. you may very well see the rise again of the security moms, women in various states who express concern about safety. this overall feelings that when you have the secret service, one of the most trusted
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organizations, believed to be really competent at protecting the president and the string of incidents including this guy hopping but fence, getting into the eastern and someone in the same elevator as the president with a gun, with a record, that is jarring. stuart: is so jarring because it is one thing after another, one anxiety issue after another. ebola is the latest. do you think this place to the republicans? i always thought the issue of security moms would say to democrats but is there a turn for the republicans? >> there may be. you are starting to see these raises focus on foreign policy for example, going after the terrorist threat and tying democrats to what is perceived to be a lack of complete action against bases overseas. k hagan in north carolina at has been bombarded by ads by her
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opponent, the republican, timed to the overall strategy of the terrorist threat. stuart: you have homeland security secretary j johnson on your phone, special report tonight the >> exclusive interview tonight. talk about a guy in the center of a lot of these issues. secret service falls under dhs, ebola is something he is dealing with. the terrorist threat obviously for the homeland and the border and the immigration back and forth and whether the president is moving forward with this executive order there's a lot to talk about. stuart: a lot to go at. that is true. we will be watching, special report tonight at 6:00 eastern. jpmorgan says personal information, 76 million people hacked, charlie gasparino on that next. ♪
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stuart: and on the intelligence bulletin warned military personnel of a new potential threat isis is calling for lone wolf terrorists to scour social media sites for the addresses of military families, go to their homes and slaughters them. the military is taking that threat seriously. isis have taken the syrian
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kurdish city on the border with turkey, this comes after the turkish parliament said go-ahead. you can fight. we will fight against syria and iraq. jpmorgan the latest victim of a hack attack, cybercriminals attacked over the summer by accessing the personal data of 76 million households. jpmorgan says all that was stolen or customers' names, addresses and phone numbers. no financial data. don't have to change your password. they say your money is not at risk. charlie gasparino still here, still is friday morning. that was a strong statement. if they say don't change your password, your money is not at risk they are out on a limb. >> we reported last night they only got hackers in the first attack, there was a report in the new york times that there was a second attack but we didn't have the number. the reason for that, when they got out of that attack was addresses and names. i didn't think was that big a story but it picked up a lot of
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steam. it is interesting. it is easy to dump all large institutions into the same sort of category given all the smoke lighthouse blows at us every day and they are obviously wrong. secret service, you name it, the difference is jpmorgan could go to jail. they cannot put out a false statement. it is a false statement that could land the ceo jamie dimon in jail. if they put out a false material statement knowingly that is what it would be. a materially false statement. if i am going to tell you, if i believe government or jpmorgan, the incentive is to believe jpmorgan because they could go to jail. president obama for all the stuff about isis for the stuff, the secret service and all sort of half truths out of the white house regarding unemployment and whether the country is coming back, you can't go to jail for that. jpmorgan could go to jail for that false statement. stuart: if he says that your
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personal financial data was not hacked, don't have to change your password, if it was a false statement he is in deep trouble. >> what would probably happen, he is not that crazy. the whole executive management team, this is why business is held accountable and government isn't. you got to trust business more than government. business is held accountable by law. government makes up the law as it goes along. stuart: that is good for friday morning. stay there, we are not done with you but i do have 30 seconds worth of three rapid fire headlines. first, ubs and fedex warning retailers be realistic about shipping deadlines for christmas. ups wants of ban on free overnight shipping offers on december 23rd. they are trying to avoid last year's mess when thousands of packages showed up after the holiday because of bad weather.
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in today's journal, 18,000 square foot home, ten bedrooms, eight bathrooms, how much? $285,000. too good to be true? it is true. we will tell you where it is. it is all location location location but we will tell you in a moment. wired magazine reports those u.s. be memory sticks could affect -- in fact your computer with a virus. the security flaw is called bad u.s. be. allows hackers to take full control of your computer. the company gm telling dealers to stop selling the chevy, ronald and gmc canyon, those trucks were earlier recalled because of an airbag defect. gm says us all the mental problem is fixed, $33 a share, always around 33, 34. ebola anxiety are rising. some say we should stop flights from west africa. looks like it would be a logistical nightmare. we ask a pilot it is possible.
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showed a quarter million new jobs and a lower unemployment rate. the price of gold, though, is down today. pretty good for the future of the economy. the price is down. back to ebola. thomas duncan told authorities he did not come into contact with anyone suffering from ebola. he flew to brussels. got on a united plane. he changed flights. with two dallas. the plane he flew on board disinfect it. they are back in service. the faa says they have no plans
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to ground flights. fox business, tom sullivan, is here. you know what you are talking about. can you impose a travel ban on people who spent time in south africa? >> yes. the way they do is on june -- they say let me see your passport. speak to you would have to have the bilge of authorities cooperate. >> that is the problem. once he is in -- yes.
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stuart: could you turn away an american with an american passport and say, sorry, you cannot leave. >> no shirt, no service. we can turn down who ever we want. stuart: let's get to cleaving of the planes. >> they have a cleaning procedure from every plane. they take garbage out of the little pockets in front of you.
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at the end of the day, they do a thorough cleaning. nobody knew that this man had ebola. united basically did their at great as far asle disinfecting. stuart: they are being told there is no possible way you can catch ebola. >> that is where i started getting in trouble. we have this microbiologist emergency dr. from missouri show up saying the cdc is lying about all of this. stuart: you could not take out of service every plane that has
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ever had ebola passengers on it. >> there is a total of over 400 people that were on those two flights. those flights have been all over the world. stuart: the keep those planes flying 247. good information. thank you very much indeed. a patient has been admitted to howard university in washington, d.c. with possible ebola symptoms. they have admitted this person as a precaution. the ladies from home hong kong. the revolution was started by college kids over there because they did not trust the
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government. doctor ben carson says the same lack of trust is also affecting america. role tape. >> the people running for election would have to be sanctioned by beijing. obviously, the people are saying, wait a minute. what is happening to our country. people are starting to become less trustful of the government. stuart: lack of trust in the government over there. that could come over here. look who is here. our favorite millennial. if you millennial's were out on the street protesting, you would be wanting more government. >> yes. i definitely think that there is more truth to that.
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it is a slight differential. i think that there is room for someone to come in and articulate a message. a good candidate who can put that message forward may prove successful. >> what do you have in mind? >> that is a tough question. rand paul appealing directly to millennial's. >> i love to have bush. they have a really bad stigma
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that is attached to it, unfortunately. stuart: those youngsters in hong kong are motivated. i just do not see the same spirit among youngsters right now. >> i do not either. it is the yearning for freedom. it is kind of scary. that is america. stuart: that is the first admission you have ever made. now, it is made in time. >> yes. you convinced me, stuart. stuart: you are going to do it; aren't you?
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245 is the yield on the 10 year period despite all of president obama's trumpeting of the economy, we have a record amount of people not in the labor force. it is now down to a 36 year low. that is a lot of people not working and not getting a paycheck. that is the participation rate. only 24% feel their family is better since the crisis. let's ring in paul conway and washington. all right, paul. bad jobs report was good. 248 new jobs. lower unemployment rate. we are doing okay. what say you.
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>> i think that the number aligned with the message. there are millions of americans right now that do not have the opportunity to pursue a job. it is just not the case. millions of folks sitting on the sidelines who want to work, but they do not have opportunities. >> are you in line with one of the premises of this show? when you get right down there, middle america is suffering. can you read that premise into today's jobs report. >> i think that you can. the driver behind the number is less americans participating in the workforce. it is not a good thing.
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i think that this will all get sorted out. >> you have been studying the labor market for a long time. wages, the middle class has been stagnating or do climbing. can you point to a single major reason why we are dead in the water as far as our middle class is concerned? >> the expansion of opportunity. i will say that to you as somebody who works with leaders on both sides of the aisle. i think that there has to be a very close look at the role of regulation. i think it is probably the weight of the government. the one thing that is restricting opportunity for the economy to grow and create a healthy middle class.
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stuart: you think it would really make a difference to middle america? >> i think regulation and spending. without a doubt. what you have going on in those states are examples of the federal government or law. they have made a substantial negative impact on the aspirations to work. the sectors are being foreclosed and on. >> you are right, paul. the desired to work. the desire to get off that food train. that is what we have to address. i am sorry we are short on time. something entirely different. adam sandler and his deal with netflix. i still say it is a gamble. mr. sandler has not produced a
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stuart: netflix announced it will be producing for netflix movies starring adam sandler. mr. sandler did not make box office bombs. [laughter] >> it is a tough crowd today on varney. stuart: i say it is a bad move because he will make bad movies. >> i say it is a good move. there are winners and losers here. they have close to 3 billion worldwide. it is a huge catalog.
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stuart: i am told that mr. sandler gets roughly $15 million per regular movie. you think he will get that much per netflix? >> i do not think so. i think he will probably get a cut of subscribers. stuart: that is interesting. the last thing you want in hollywood -- >> this is true. we were just talking about that. [laughter] stuart: you have also on chap often commented about streaming. >> how we experience movies is changing. these guys are at the forefront of it.
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they are driving the conversation. on tuesday, we announced a deal. they did not like that and they said no. on thursday, they made this announcement. these guys are not going away. >> imac says we do not like that. did netflix back off? >> the theater owners said no way. 70% of the screens nationwide. stuart: they are flexing their muscle and may have muscles to
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flex. [laughter] thank you very much. the mayor of dallas will answer questions about the anxiety and his city and criticism over his city's response over ebola. look at this. they showed people there are turning on each other. the second hour, two minutes away. ♪ "hello. you can go ahead and put your bag right here."
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disruption. there is widespread distrust of your authorities. we are told you cannot catch it by casual context. people just do not believe that, no matter what the authorities say. real disruption in the lives of everyone and i mean everyone, is a real threat. ♪ stuart: let's get right at it. >> it has been disrupted by the ebola patient. >> my everyday life has been disruptive.
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they are still planning to go to the cowboys game on sunday. it is amazing that this is a very local thing. life is different there. stuart: there is what we are calling a crisis of confidence. a lot of people just do not believe it is stopped. what can you do to address that problem of a lack of confidence in your authorities? >> all i can do is be honest. i can get on shows like yours and explain to people that there is 0% chance you can get this unless you come in contact of bodily fluids with someone that is sick with this disease.
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stuart: if i sit next to someone who has the symptoms of ebola, that person sneezes and i have a little cut on my hand, for example, can i get ebola? now, there is some pushback on that. yes, there may be some circumstances. it is possible. that is what is creating the anxiety level and the fear in our so society. >> it has been consistent all along. someone has to be actively symptomatic of this to make that happen.
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stuart: can you give us an update on that? >> today we have a different problem. about one fourth of our schools are shut down because of lack of power. we really cannot be, i cannot read into any of the numbers on this. it does not surprise me. if i had a kid, they would be in school right now. i think that is the safest place to be. that is why we are monitoring everybody that he has been in contact with. if they have a high fever, we will jump on it at that well
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meant. >> do you have legal authority to corinth teen people? >> i know that it is controversial. the great news is the immediate group that he came in contact, the lady with some children, have all agreed to this. we have not been able, it is not important enough to do that with the other folks. some of that is self isolation. the state has given us the authority to do that. >> you have one patient in one hospital with confirmed ebola. >> i think dallas has great medical resources. we have plenty to cover that. the medical community is overly prepared now.
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they are going through a box of training. it is a little bit different in the communities. we are making plans in place of that. >> mamas are giving birth to their babies. we are still on guard. stuart: i know you must be a very busy man at times like this. >> thank you for your interest. stuart: wall street buzzing about this. it could be ebola. it could be isis. hong kong. yesterday, ebola has no influence on your money in the markets. here is what charlie gasparino said about that last hour.
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>> i got three calls from reputable traders. reputable traders who said those thoughts have any additional information than what is out there. it has become part of the market chatter amongst traders. stuart: you think ebola has the potential or is it a developing black swan story now? >> i get the numbers. it doubles every three weeks. also, remember the cdc has cried wolf several times. right now, it looks like ebola
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has been contained in the markets. stuart: would you move money anywhere anytime, at this point, because of ebola? >> no. absolutely not. >> this could be a serious problem because of the sanitary conditions. >> got it. we are told that that is because in part the jobs report was fairly strong. what is your take on that jobs report? >> i thought that it was good. we have more americans that are out of work right now that would prefer to be working in our history. we have a long way to go. it is better than zero.
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while it is not great, it still is good. all well and good. we have more jobs. a low unemployment rate. when you look deep down, middle america is suffering. >> i have heard larry summers tried to explain this. if you are 1%, you are doing really well. it is the top 10%. what has completely disappeared in this country is the middle class. stuart: later this hour, a doctor that is sounding this alarm. he says the cdc is lying. we will challenge him on that.
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look at the big board. the jobs report is pretty strong. up goes the market. gold is still down. about $20. the yield on the 10 year treasury, 2.44%. forget the up and down movements every single day. the company told dealers to stop selling the chevy colorado. those trucks were earlier recall. no impact on the stocks. it's manufacturing day. wait, he pledged to create 1 million manufacturing jobs in his term.
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jeff flock is in illinois. >> we are at a firm that is responsible. the reality is, of that million job pledge, we are only about a quarter of the way there. this is one that has benefited from the automotive industry. the rest of the manufacturing store has been pretty paltry. even your pal over there, he said i think we have to get the truth meter out on that one.
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>> i cannot think of one. >> you have friends everywhere. let's get back to your money. a big data breach at jpmorgan. >> the stock is up one and a half percent. 7 million small businesses. it is mostly current account holders. the breakdown and what was actually taken, it seems like phone numbers and e-mails. no evidence that account numbers, passwords, user ids have been stolen. that is the good news of it all. in addition to all of this, the stock is doing well.
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also, this could be an identity theft issue as well. continue to watch. stuart: here is the lineup for the rest of the hour. media research center 12:25 p.m. later in the hour, 10,000 square foot homes for under $10,000. yes, they do exist. mr. money printer himself. he is having a little trouble. he cannot refinance his mortgage. up next, protesters in hong kong. pro- beijing locals. now, those pro-democracy people are calling off talks with the government. the latest on that is next. ♪
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there is speculation about a merger. back to the latest. we have new pictures. protesters clashing on the streets with hong kong residents. time to get off the streets or face arrest. warning the prolonged for test could bring permanent damage to the system. a fox news contributor joining us now. i saw those pictures. i am hoping to get some video at some point of the clash. the fighting. it seems to us that that was provoked. they were organized. this is part of the patient's people attempt to subdue. if that is accurate, that would
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be a very ugly and significant twist. >> there is communism versus capitalism. i think the business community has to pick a side here. if you will play in the world of capitalism, then you better be on the side of pushing capitalism. i think it is really important right now that we have this debate. the chinese government is trying to make this protest all about america anyway. they are saying that this is the u.s. and the europeans, they are trying to make trouble here. stuart: do you think that this could move to the mainland
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china? if it did that, if there was a movement, you would have some democracy protests. >> it really is. you see what has happened in hong kong right now. if the chinese back down and may give in to these protesters, i think a lot of people will say maybe protests work. maybe we should try it. if china does not back down and really pushes, then i think we need to see the business community and the s-uppercase-letter rise up. stuart: you think they will be on the size of beijing? >> we while full capitalism. if you go back and see what the chinese government is actually
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asking. they're politicians have to be approved by them as patriotic. they will decide who is a patriot and who is not. >> the business community will not be on the side of the diamond traders. above all, stability. that is the nature. if they push against the pro-democracy demonstrators, you have fights like we are seeing now, that makes it more damaging. >> in the short term i would say, stuart. if you are on the side of stability, it is just a way of saying you are the price of status quo. >> all i am saying is if you are a global company and you really
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believe in capitalism, you better start standing for capitalism. stuart: the obvious question is the president of the united states visits beijing next month. should the president take a strong stance in favor of the pro-democracy. >> of course. stuart: that would be a real clash. diplomacy means if you want to cut diplomacy, you have to use those tools. you have to use everything at the power of the u.s. government.
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>> it keeps on going up. and little. at a time. could be back to 17,000. look at coal stocks. all moving lower. there is a new study. it would shut two thirds of coal plants down go the stocks. president obama spoke at northwestern university. he said his pep talk would not be a political speech. here is what he said. >> there is a reason you hear fewer republicans running around about obamacare. good, affordable health care may seem like a threat to the
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freedom of the american people, it turns out it is working pretty well in the real world. stuart: with an introduction like that, you know who is here. i kind of know the answer. why do you think the president took a swipe at poor old fox news? >> everything. everybody knows everything this president does is political. fox is the only one reporting what is going on with this and all the other scandals. in mid-september, the cbo came out with a new report. they said that obama subsidies would go up. no one, i think, expected it to go off 800% from 17 billion to 137 billion. how could that not be news?
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abc, cbs, nbc, none of them covered it. this is what obama wants. in a political speech, of course he goes after fox. stuart: go ahead. give me two more. i will take them. >> this man and this administration is serial dishonest. if you look at what he said, when he says obamacare is working, these things are not true. you are getting these from every department. every agency. the coverups, the lies, everyone knows them, but their networks are not reporting them. this is driving me crazy. ronald reagan never accused the first person single, it was
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always the first person plural. this president can only talk about himself. notice what he did yesterday. when obamacare was on its deathbed with everything falling apart, it was always the affordable care act. who talks about his own legislation and his own nickname and his own name as president? i do not get it. the news was that three anchors on the three broadcast networks, i have forgotten their names, i always used to think, i used to think that maybe they played it straight down the middle. that was the news. i think that times have radically changed. the news appears to have become politicized. would you agree with that? viewers seem to be self
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selecting. >> when we began this adventure, though full shows they were advised. if i look at the media today and what they have done in the last two years and the radicalization of the media, it makes me pine for the good old days of dan rather. this is a president that is completely out of control. it is not the bias of the problem. it is the bias by omission. they are covering up for this administration. stuart: we have been talking about this on this program for several years now. maybe things are changing. maybe the media is not so much in lock step with the president. was i totally wrong?
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>> you and i had that conversation. they are fully invested in this. they will be fully invested in the next democratic candidate. it will be a continuation of the next thing. stuart: the doctor is wearing a hazmat suit. he went to the airport. we have that doctor with us next. ♪ "hello. you can go ahead and put your bag right here."
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because i think gas prices are heading lower. what say you? >> i absolutely agree with you. everything is going the right way. there's a bunch of oil demand. cars are getting better mileage. every dollar or every penny we save on a gallon of gasoline adds $1 billion to the economy over the course of the year sell the country is beautiful, find out what is out there. stuart: the oceans of stopped rising, temperature has stopped rising so you don't have to feel bad about this. are you in the camps that says there's a glut of oil and we could go down to $80 a barrel? >> absolutely. it could go to 75 but the one caveat on all of this is a lot of times if the economy picks up for the stock market picks up you see a drop in the price of oil that will be temporary because there is too much out there. saudi arabia lowered prices so that tells you something right
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there. stuart: very good, thanks for joining us. moments ago we touched 17,000. 10 minutes ago we will hit 17 k today and we did. touched it momentarily. if somebody goes out there and buys a dow stock, could be on television when we hit 17,000. i am waiting. we will keep it up there. emanual looking at is our next guest. has been traveling around atlanta hartsfield airport in hazmat suit protesting the way the cdc has been handling recent cases of ebola coming the cross to america. listen to what the mayor of dallas had to say earlier this hour. >> doesn't surprise me one of 10 i being overly protective. if i had a kid they would be in school right now because that is the safest place to be because nobody else except for this one
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patient in the hospital has shown symptoms. stuart: bring in the man in the hazmat suit, dr. gill mobley. welcome to the program, glad you could come with us today. you, accused the cdc of lying. you say they are lying when they say this ebola outbreak can be contained in the united states of america. where is the lie in that? >> the local doctors, health systems and infectious disease, specialists in springfield had a meeting 6 months ago and we were convinced these would be coming regularly to the united states especially once the disease migrates out of west africa. 1 million people on the continent are in quarantine for ebola and 10,000 people leave west africa every day. is a matter of time before this season every developing country on the planet that shares with sierra leone health care structure.
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stuart: you made a point that it is spreading. west africa, intense contamination and will spread from there. the cdc was referring to the containment of ebola when it has arrived here, like a patient in dallas. they said it can be contained. is that a lie? >> one patient is already exhausted the dallas department of health and they are flying in people from the cdc. what happens when we put this on a daily basis and it consumes every third world country in the world? they're lying or totally incompetent. connect the dots. stuart: when the cdc says they can contain ebola with one patient in dallas, it won't breakout from that hospital, is that a lie? >> i fully believe that. they can contain this cluster. i fully believe they can contain that but what happens when we have tens of thousands of people crossing the border read a? we will have clusters every week.
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i don't care how events any industrialized nation is there's a certain threshold when we will overwhelm the resources just like immediately we had to fly people from ohio to help dallas out. you said at the top of the hour if the cdc says another one happens, they did don't have that right. it is when. stuart: what do you propose? you are using strong language. what the proposed? flat out travel ban? closed the border? >> i came from a medical mission trip two days ago and came to atlanta at. no one asks me where i had been horrify had been sick. i wasn't there most and that yesterday the cdc said there thermal scanning in airports. there is a miscommunication there. stuart: when you run a medical mission? >> yes. the finest hospital in central america and i was down there lining up contract with the water project that we have.
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stuart: no one is suggesting we look at every person coming in to this country, are they? >> i am because it is becoming -- stuart: they didn't check you when you came in from central america. >> they are lying about propensity for clusters to come. the same week president obama echoed the sentiment -- it is a small chance of coming to the united states, we have the first importation because our guard was down. the e r should have been put on alert. they are derelict in their duty or lying. in the wendy's think perhaps your inciting a little panic here? >> we need fear. we need desperate concern. fear is appropriate. panic is inappropriate response to fear. we don't need panic. we need to implement policies, procedures and protocols immediately.
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the cdc held onto the trash guidance from the first treated for a week in 55 gallons and made provisions for what to do with that. this patient in dallas, the family sat in an apartment with 5 faeces soaked mattresses for three days, what do we do about that? they should across this bridge before now. this disease has been ravaging west africa for have a year and we are not figuring it out. stuart: you made your point and we appreciate you being with us today, thank you very much. wes than a quarter of using you are better off now than when you were when president obama took office. this is the economic disconnect we talk about all the time. the reality of the obama economy after this.
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are not in the labour force. the participation rate has dropped to a 36 year low. and awful lot of people are not working, not getting a paycheck at all. according to the latest fox news poll, 23% feel their families better off since the financial crisis. 43% feel the economy is getting better. come in, rick silver, checkers, thanks for coming to the show. we talked about the economic disconnects, headlines, jobs are improving, unemployment rate down but the reality on the ground. i use seeing that kind of economic disconnect? >> the economy isn't as good as we would like it. the last one i saw was median household income is below what it was in 2009. i don't think anybody can suggest the economy is great
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right now. having said that it doesn't mean we can't win. there are a lot of opportunities out there to give your business succeed during these times. it was very difficult, checkers and rallies, we had wonderful years, 4 years of street cop sales growth. existing restaurants are selling more. and we open 44 restaurants this year. it is a challenge out there. a lot of cost pressures on business. and make sure your innovative. stuart: i u.n. position to have pricing power? can you put the burgers up and bring more people in? >> that is interesting. an opportunity to raise prices, the weak economy, you allow pricing power. we carillon about our guests. our guests come to us, outstanding value and we want to give them that outstanding
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value. somewhere else in the business. stuart: are they -- money and spending power. i would imagine people at your end of the restaurant business, you want to be careful where it's a spend their money. i bet that is true. >> you got to be the best option. our vision is the first choice for our guests and will be absolutely right. if you are not their first choice that will go something -- not spend as much money until you are able to provide the guess exactly what they are looking for and give them great value which is what we focus on. we have the benefit of the franchise organization and leveraging our 800 units and have gone to our supply chain and found cost savings, the pressures we are seeing in the economy. stuart: i live in new jersey and have not used the checkers and rallies but if i did -- >> we're going to fix that.
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stuart: hold on a second. what is the price of the top of the line burger at your chain. >> we keep our burgers reasonable. we want to -- our customers that picky for valid reasons. the average consumer spends $5, 60 procession -- under $5 so the majority of those, is a 5-year meal. we want to give people the best value. we are absolutely the best option. if you have a $5 will go to one of our restaurants, $5 go to our competitors. stuart: i gave you a tweet 2-minute commercial. you should be very happy. i will come. not going to promise. i am going to turn to ben
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stuart: look kansas. we are on track for the best gain since march fourth, 200 points up at the moment and we recaptured 17,000. we know it would be a tough mortgage market but before the fed chairman of the federal reserve ben bernanke has a hard time refinancing his own home, speaking at a conference in chicago he said that he recently tried to refinance his mortgage and was, quote, and successful in doing so. when the audience laughed, he said i am not making that up. it is tough to refinance. the wall street journal has found a house that is 18,000 square feet. cheryl casone, you have some
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pictures of the. stuart: if i were to buy this place and allow the front door what i'd be shocked? >> you would not be but you have to put some money into this property. it is an end. ten bedrooms, eight bathrooms, 18,000 square feet in change, listing price 284 grand, the west end district, built in 1887, historic place on the register. stuart: looking at some rather nice woodwork. >> it needs some work. stuart: that is -- >> it is all right. it is an older neighborhood and needs something to fix it up. it is in, not even a home. that is why it is but a good deal. it is an older part of tokyo. let's be clear. i am trying to. stuart: got another one? >> detroit. we talked about before
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yesterday. they troy, eight bathrooms, four baths, three half bath home, 5600 square feet, $365,000. stuart: it looks like a prison. >> the toledo place may be. that is what you would get. i have got one in st. louis. they have won in st. louis? look at st. louis, there is one in st. louis. this one is a little more, $649,000 but look at that, 11,000 square feet and change. i think this home looks pretty good. i think st. louis is a beautiful town. that is lifted as well. stuart: let me ask the obvious question. i walk out the front door. am i shot in the street? >> not in the st. louis--the detroit won could be a little dicey just to be honest. neighbors will start to call me on the show. would you mind not going on national television and ripping on our city's?
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stuart: the fellow who designed, the architect on that brick building in detroit made his fortune designing prisons. i may be wrong. >> all of these, one thing about these areas there are manufacturing towns, they were built during the manufacturing boom in the united states and we don't have that anymore. stuart: interesting. sub million dollar mansion, interesting. thanks a lot. your take on this show is next.
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my time is up but here is dierdre bolton. dierdre: thank you very much. data points showing strengthening in the labour market, recruiting expert is here with his best mix of man and machine and speaking of that makes a doctorate in texas is using a robot it is in fact and destroy bacteria and viruses including ebola. the darker side of man and machine jpmorgan suffering a data breach, 75 million households may be affected. it is the biggest gainer breach ever. jpmorgan chase says half of its u.s. households in 7 million small business customers were hit by a massive cyberattack that happened over the summer. liz macdonald has been following all the developments, fox business editor, what does jpmorgan think? i know you called them. liz: also talked to law enforcement. jpmorgan stock is not movi
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