neil: tonight on "cavuto", the ebola problem spinning faster than we can deal with it. and how about downplaying the terrorism threat and how about jpmorgan chase downplaying their huge hack attack rematch and let's just say that if this guy gets turned down for a mortgage, what makes you think that you will get one? the breast-cancer advertisement that is raising i is faster than awareness. welcome come everyone, i am neil cavuto. we have bad news, it is

mutating. this ebola virus is mutating. not enough to make you panic but enough to make you think and make you question those who insisted that you shouldn't worry. because the ebola virus could go airborne pretty much any time. the problem is that anthony bradberry is not telling us anytime he thinks that's going to happen. which is the opposite of the cdc telling us. and it has less moving with the fast changing nature of this virus itself. the longer that it moves around in the melting pot that is west africa, it is a nightmare scenario and unlikely, but it can't be ruled out. it's hard to say, this much is not. even in this country, this ebola thing is not standing still. a washington area hospital has admitted a patient very much

like one of those patients who have the symptoms of ebola. and the patient is being floated phone back neil: and quarantine orders to the family of thomas eric duncan. item number four, eight dallas-area students who might have had contact with duncan had been taken under what authorities call a homebound watch with their families. and they say it is an abundance of caution. and this has been rebuffed by family members who refuse to allow them in. as of today, they have been allowed access but still no confirmation that the cleaners were able to finish a complete

scrub down. keep in mind that it has been a week. officials are offering conflicting advice on how to deal with any of that related waste. the cdc spokeswoman says that materials contaminated with ebola can be treated like you would treat other medical conditions. but they say this is defined as a category agent which means it can't be treated like this and it's illegal to transport. that is what we know at this hour. but keep in mind that this thing seems to change. to hear my next guest tell it, it gets scarier by the hour. with me now, doctor, i don't know for sure this virus is mutating, but that is feeding the sphere. is it justified? >> well, first of all, it's definitely mutated about 200 times and the question is, will

it go airborne or will it mutate in a way as to make it more efficient with the transmission. and so right now it is and only transmitted via bodily fluids, obviously problematic enough that it's devastating west africa, but it can't go person-to-person easily if you brush by somebody who is breathing the same air. >> let me raise a couple of possibilities. you know enough that he was found outside of his apartment bombing. so someone steps in the vomit and drag them back to their home. and so what happens? >> let's say you have a baby and the baby is crawling on the floor, that's not a good thing. that bodily fluid is a problem and one of the additional problems of ebola is that it causes you to omit these bodily fluids and causes you to have

diarrhea and vomit. and so i think that there is an issue. but some of the things he raised are good signs. the fact that officials are using track and trade procedures to follow them. that they are sending a cleaning crew that goes in. and the judge insist that. neil: i don't want to alarm you, but that took a week to do. we don't know the extent, but there are different standards as to how we move materials from the department. you can remove them as you would any of medical way, but the department of transportation saying the opposite. >> i think that this points to the problems in government where you have each one of them having different roles. neil: okay, let me ask you. if they go ahead and transport

us as they would medical waste, and they are not supposed to do that, what do you do? >> i'm not sure what the question is, what you do. if they treat medical waste and it's protected so that people don't interact with it and it doesn't encounter people, it's probably not a problem. neil: but some seem to think it is a problem. so i'm confused as to whether making something worse by treating it like it's just any other kind of thing. >> the cdc has talked about this and the dot has talked about how workers are uncomfortable transporting us as well. >> it is confusing, we will watch it because it's mutating as fast as the virus. and coming up next from it ebola

worries are growing. >> is not easily transmitted. and it's not transmitted like the flu or water or food and the only way that it can be transmitted is from the bodily fluids of an individual who is already showing symptoms. neil: first the medical missionaries than thomas dobkin and now an nbc cameraman. and so it's easily attracted. and i thought that we would understand more. getting to our author tonight, what do you make of this? if you were in that area and affected directly. what do you do with your kids? >> i don't know all the answers. i do know that we cannot trust this government.

they are hiding things from us. i'm reading things like report that this is transmissible from animal to animal. i'm not sure what includes it and via airborne, saliva, this topic is upsetting but it's true. and so are we being told the complete truth? this administration has told us that you can keep your doctor. but even here in san diego there's a tb case here. we were afraid of this and now that kids are sitting in school rooms next to our children. this is really happening. and it has a 20 year latency or dormancy period on average we have asked this question.

neil: if you were in that area where the kids were taken out of school and placed under protective custody and their families are being watched, would you take your kid out now as well? >> in a heartbeat. the children are not worth risking for what we are being told. it wasn't going to come here at all. they say we have one case, but it's not transmissible. they quarantine over 100 people. what is the next chapter in this book reign this no longer is about politics and republicans versus democrats, but life versus death and parents better wake up to it and they better start taking a stand against the government that doesn't seem as concerned about the health of our families as it is about the next election frankly. neil: gina, thank you so much. maybe we just have to ban all flights from africa. maybe to africa.

congressman, the administration says that that would be overreacting. what do you say? >> it would not be, the administration as you mentioned has downplayed this. why are we taking the chance if we let more people into the united states in west africa, it's too late and the administration says we may have banned travel. so that would be simple. americans and foreign nationals in the united states cannot travel to west africa. and also people from that region should not be allowed to enter the united states until this ebola situation is under control. we can do that, the law allows for that. why take the chance and the risk by saying oh, we don't need to do that yet. especially since we are to wait until after the problem is party

coming into the united states to implement this type of travel ban. neil: be careful what you wish for, it's easier said than done. in the case of this, he flies to brussels and then he gets to dulles in washington and then he moves on to dallas. so there was a multi-leg part of that trip and i'm wondering if it is something that a savvy librarian or traveler, i will spread this out over a couple of days and we will go to rome and brussels and then mike tighe will say that i'm leaving from rome or brussels and we're finding clever ways around it. >> away the back and be handled is the originating individual, if they are originating from these three west african

countries, they would not be allowed in the united states. neil: do think it's too late for this number we have cases, a couple of suspected cases in the united states, maybe this has come and gone? >> let's go ahead and do it to prevent more people from coming into the united states or possibly infected. we should obviously do that now. it's common sense and let's protect the health of the united states. >> many others say that it's going to be more than that. what would you tell parents? >> i think that parents should be leery of letting their kids go to school under those circumstances. and the kids at a possibly infected, i think the superintendent is doing the right thing and trying to isolate them.

neil: congress and, thank you so much. we want to keep you up-to-date and challenge your mind. we have even included a quiz on the other breaking developments in things that we think you already know. the pew research center conduct at a national current event survey and found that most americans couldn't answer basic these questions. i beg to differ, they would not hold viewers of the show. so i want to give you one of the survey questions before each break. and here is one. on which of these activities does the u.s. government currently spends most money? transportation? social security? foreign aid? interest on the national debt? the answer coming up after the break. we would love to hear from you. but first, the hack attack that keeps piling on and on. effecting one out of four americans.

neil: i am so convinced that you guys are smarter than the average american, then i'm putting this shows representation reputation on the line. so which spends the most money? transportation? security, foreign aid, or interest on the national debt? social security is the answer. meanwhile, on the hack attack the keeps on happening and happening and the bank accounts to keep draining, first target is 40 million in jpmorgan chase, 76 million households affected by the latest hack attack.

he dearly kind of laid out the possibility that this stuff is going to happen. but what is interesting is jpmorgan's reaction to that is don't worry, none of this was compromised, they didn't do anything with it. how would they know? >> when you look at what has happened and what they had access to, it's always that they just looked around and moved on and that is not the case. you find out later on as we have seen that it's a little bit deeper than what we thought it was. and then you look at all the downstream issues that you wind up dealing with. reports about 7 million businesses. so even if you don't go after the honeypot itself, you look at the 7 million businesses now than have your transactions and it just continues to grow like that. neil: wouldn't do you any good,

our, would rip up my jpmorgan chase card, get a new card. because if they've gotten your social security and so in the card itself -- >> that's absolutely correct. i've gotten two new cards. new cards being shipped to you when it's no longer valid because it's potentially compromised. neil: this does happen you? >> that is correct because i am a consumer of these big places. so what happens is is that it has a precaution and we are going to do this. until i woke up in one of the first things i did was check my online account and see if there's any unusual transactions , things like that. neil: if you know the that this isn't going to help you, in the meantime hugest- i picture

people with bags of cash or something. what you do a max. >> we are way beyond that. there is no turning back now and there are couple of things that we can do to protect ourselves and you and i have talked about that. keeping your system updated, don't click on those things that say get rich and here is a special forecast for the super bowl next year. and then when we push that data with all of the people that we do business with, that is where the data is held in big groups and big data and that is the thing that people targeted. and it doesn't have to be immediate. >> i think there's valid reasons, if they determine it, if they notify law enforcement, they notify the national

security, there's a lot going on in the background, which is good. one of the problems we have the in is a continuation where we have to know what is going on quicker because that means other companies are probably just as one of all and they may already be intruded upon and they may have access to data. so it's almost like going out there and throwing a piece of mud and hoping that it sticks to his it's going to be sticking someplace else in a few minutes. neil: howard, we appreciate it. thank you so much. we have this ongoing quiz in the last one, 99% of you got the answer correct. but i guarantee you guys are smarter than the average americans. and so here's the next part of it. what is the national unemployment rate? as reported by the government. what is it closer to her? don't be a showoff, 3%, 6%, 9%,

or 12%? believe it or not, most americans got this wrong. tweet me your answer. if you get it right, i will have bill o'reilly give you a free book. [laughter] anyway, when we come back, terrorism is not a threat. really? >> we face no ex existential threat to our life or security. neil: sending in troops,recedenp mr. vice president. for better access to talent, cutting edge research, and state of the art facilities. and you pay no taxes for ten years. from biotech in brooklyn, to next gen energy in binghamton, to manufacturing in buffalo... startup-ny has new businesses popping up across the state. see how startup-ny can help your business grow at startup.ny.gov

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neil: how smart are you? we are getting an inkling with this quiz question. this one as reported by the government. isn't currently closer to 3% or 6% or 9% to were 12%? the average viewers answered 12%. and so drop below 6% since 2008.

meanwhile, announcing that he's sending in special forces, president obama is still ruling out boots on the ground to would try retired lieutenant colonel richard newton and the australians are now going to be on the ground. >> you know, even allies for them, certainly through other campaigns in context, it's a good call for us to bring him on board. >> they had a pretty scary incident. >> it shows cut of the global nature of tom cutinella and that they are willing to help.

it's not just an away game but a home game. neil: and a lot of them as well. but what is going on? we know that isis has recruits as far as australia, the united states, france and britain, how did we deal with that act that max we have you have to think of the larger picture here. there is the overall strategy and on i think of them, i think of them militarily and in terms of financial capability and their ability to govern and their ability to conduct what i call information operations or influence operations not only within the middle east region but searching through to the

united states. neil: so how long do you think that that can be the case? the australians, the british, even though the british voted not to do this? how long? >> only time will tell and i'm going to get to a point here. what's with the air campaign plates way out. my judgment and my perspective on this, eventually you will see u.s. ground forces there and we are already betting this verse infantry division -- neil: what are they doing? >> they are helping to organize, if you will, american forces in iraq to help us provide training and other support and how we advise them. neil: you're saying that you cannot avoid them finishing that

up? >> that is my prediction. i don't think you can avoid it at this time. neil: leon panetta blasting the white house for taking troops out of iraq. meanwhile joe biden saying that it really isn't a big deal. >> say it again. we face no existential threats. none to our way of life for our security. you are twice as likely to be struck by lightning as you are to be affected by a terrorist event in the united states. neil: worried about them already here. well, are we taking this threat seriously enough? tracy byrnes, what do you think? >> clearly joe biden is not who i would go to for anything.

>> he doesn't know. i think that he is famous for throwing out whatever he feels for that day when he wakes up if he has a thought, it just comes out. >> this is the same man that said that we are going to chase into them to the gates of hell because of that serious. we are going, gangbusters. >> together he was trying to calm nerves, but he is a smart kid, they know what is out there. >> this is where they want to let things fix themselves, it might be that that is the best policy, i hope it is, because that seems to be the path that we are going. and so maybe they realize that they can't fix this problem and they look good to the public to start doing something, but they are also one or two or three years of doing nothing.

they don't know their limitations at this point. neil: but you know that they say that the odds are low. if you had said that on september 10, 2001, the odds of the plane hitting your building are very remote. people would quite properly say, are you kidding me? >> people have a natural distrust, especially this administration. i think that they look at this with any crisis going on in this administration on a first-come first-served basis. neil: i wonder if that fuels it here. you dismiss the scandal and you dismiss the justice department going after reporters and said it was only a couple and it turned out to be more like 100. and there's a routine pattern here. and i think americans of all kinds are just going to say no.

>> they don't believe anything that comes out of the administration. which is awful. and we don't. i remember being a kid. it was mr. president. we don't even do that anymore, it's just obama but they don't know what to do and clearly -- >> like this thing with fox. i always say, and obviously you're not a fan of the network, but i expect us to petty and childish. neil: 90% are getting these answers right. so what is the federal minimum wage today? $5.35 per hour? $7.25 an hour, $10.50 an hour

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neil: you guys did it again in just seconds. thousands of e-mails coming in with what is the federal minimum wage today. $5.35 per hour, $7.25 an hour, $10.50 an hour, $12.50 per hour. and so back to ebola. thomas eric duncan boddicker from liberia and he said he didn't know. and he's been prosecuted for

lying he said he didn't have it or had no exposure to it. and of course, he is fighting for his life right now, so one thing at a time. what do you think they matter. >> this is a tough one. he didn't know he was ill. but the question was, did you care for a patient with a deadly virus. yes, he did. he carried the pregnant woman to a cab to get her help. neil: he know that she had ebola? i don't jump to the negative like you do. [laughter] >> okay, i will take it from here. [laughter] it on the next question is batman and superman get into a fight. [laughter] >> people were exposed and people were dying in his region of sierra leone. he got on a plane and he

thought, well, i'll be safe and i'll be treated and i can actually live. neil: maybe thes, you know, maybe what we have to do is stop these flights to africa. >> whenever they give you paperwork, who is doing that really? >> it's in the overhead and second, in this instance it's ridiculous because you are in this country with the worst health care in the world and you will die if you stay there, you're going to the country with the best hospitals and they can probably keep you alive. and you are going to get life in prison. you are going to lose.

>> he went to washington dc, you don't know where they are coming from. we are not tracking it properly. >> one of the other things is that they say that it will cause her stocks go down. but either way who wants to get on one of the flights over there that may have a connector there? either way i think the stock is shaky right now. neil: some flight attendants are pretty abrasive on cell phone and laptop use. can you imagine if a suspect you -- i mean, it is not going to end well. >> they need a good spokesperson, someone like maybe joe biden. neil: we talked about this. >> we talked about this the other day. zip them up. neil: you are incredible. the pew research center says were doing this to prove how

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neil: all right, who is the current chair of the u.s. federal reserve board? these are your choices. of course it is janet yellen.

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neil: i'm glad that they weren't doing a prostate cancer awareness. >> compared to an abercrombie and fitch commercial, i think that they are doing fine. i think it was provocative, but it got your attention and it did what it was supposed to do. >> it's great, you are right. i wonder if were crossing into too much breast cancer awareness because what's going on is that they are very aware about the situation. they are having tests done and they are getting these major surgeries and i think that we might have gone too far. and i think that its research money and that is where this is

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neil: okay, you guys are on fire. you all got this one, which african country experienced a major trend outbreak, the answer is liberia. meanwhile, in tonight's business blitz, talk about tight credit and a slap in the face. former federal reserve chairman ben bernanke admitting that he had been turned down for a loan. this is the same guy that makes $250,000 per speech.

i guess it was back in the day when he is still the chairman of the fed, and made a little under 200 grand per year. and he was buying a home in new jersey and was turned down. >> this whole story blows my mind. because he's the head of the federal reserve. neil: yesterday he's ahead of the federal reserve. >> there's no way he walked into a will inc. and -- it just sounds -- the. neil: may be it was credible. and what are the odds of that. >> i would love the banker that sat down and said his your paperback. -- here is your paperback. >> it's a computer algorithm. this bothers the mine.

>> and all the banks were like, we don't want to do that again, let's reject this wholesale. neil: taking a leap that we didn't know was really him. he is the guy who changes the rate and makes them go back up the minutes in which he's done refinancing. >> but for him, they knew who he was. they don't get a pass on that. they had this meant everything under the sun to prove his identity. neil: the banks were not very happy with the fed. >> he had a home in new jersey. >> it might've been higher. but it's very strict.

>> maybe we don't know the whole story. >> he admitted that this was part of the conference and he admitted that this could happen to him. >> surely a lot of people in the audience can identify that it's very hard to get a modest long, something over 700,000. and maybe the one person doing it was very scared that no matter what he gave, he would be under the spotlights and he was like, i don't want to be the person responsible. [talking over each other] >> yet they are too rich to talk about this. >> i don't think they knew who he was. okay, mr. ben bernanke.

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neil: and what is the deal with americans just not buying this recovery? president obama says we're better off today than we were six years ago when he assumed office and that got a lot of you fuming. january writes, a lot of people working part-time real unemployment under 10 percent. millions of people losing their health insurance. yep, president obama has a lot of things to brag about. steven writes. middle class are getting crushed. three dollars a gallon of gas to get you to and from work.

things are very hard on the middle class. better off for him maybe not for me or my family. sally, if he says that enough he thinks we'll believe him. ed our countries national security and foreign affairs has never been in worse shape. if you're getting a check with a us treasury stamp on top of it you're doing much better the rest of us are paying the tab and are certainly not better. judy: with you kidding more people on welfare, more on food stamps. jobs now part-time because of obamacare. one third of 20 years old are living at home because they have to due to the economy. clark: this comments show how disconnected president obama is. jeanette. national debt is almost $18 trillion maybe he was telling a joke. nancy writes better off than why is trust to the government at an all-time low today.

that's an excellent point because it is. ann writes tell it to the businesses that had to close the small banks that were shut down the doctors that had -- angel writes things aren't better. i gave up looking for a job after five years. terry, where are we better off? national debt has tripled. finally greg tweets if the economy is so good, ideas president obama have to try so hard to convince us. when you look at statistics you have to look at the numbers, the raw data which vaifers what he's saying, but then you have to look at the emotional component of that. a lot of folks aren't buying it. so many americans are going paycheck to paycheck and they don't feel that real growth and the job improvement in low paying fields or in part-time work then what are we really looking at. when the president

admits that for washington to dismiss says everything for you to know about authorities who are out to lunch. thanks for riding. we'll see you next time kennedy: between isis and ebola the news is very disconcerting president you get the feeling the world could easily unravel. it's a little uncreative to -- tonight we thought we would widen the net to find all the ways the world could possibly end. how prepared are you for an alien invasion. what about a nuclear strike that melts our financial grid. how quickly could a financial collapse end our economy. we'll spell it out tonight. apocalypse how, this is "the independents."