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says everything for you to know about authorities who are out to lunch. thanks for riding. we'll see you the show. you don't want to miss a moment of "making money." about to leave you with lou dobbs. lou: good evening, everybody. the white house says the president will not consider any travel ban to fight a potential ebola contagion in this country despite the suspension of flights to sierra leone, liberia and guinea including british airways, airfrance and emirates airlines. federal health officials are arguing that a travel ban or intense screening of arrival passengers wouldn't help even though hundreds are still sought out for screening proximity to patient zero as he flew from brussels to dallas.
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bobby jindel to call for a travel ban from these nations, but not only has the obama administration refused, now encouraging more individuals from west africa to come to the united states for training are and sending more americans to africa to help treat the already infected. >> who and cdc have not recommended we cut off travel from the countries because it remains essential that the world community engage in order to help the countries address and contain the ongoing health crisis, so some nationals of all three ebola affected countries will be traveling to the united states for training on how to treat ebola patients, an essential measure and, of course we have foreign nationals going there as well. lou: health and human services secretary sylvia burwell tried to assure americans by pointing
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to the obviously ineffective screening process put into place in the ebola stricken nations, a process that failed when eric duncan simply lied before boarding flight from liberia. duncan's family is under a court ordered quarantine in dallas including armed guards outside their door after they refused to obey health officials who directed them to stay in isolation. we'll be taking you live to dallas for a full report with the latest developments and taking up the very real fierce of our citizens, fears that our government officials seem unwilling to even discuss. we take it up with two leads immunologists here in just moments. also either week of barbaric acts by islamic state terrorists. moments ago fox news confirmed another british hostage has been beheaded by the islamic terrorist group, two days after the terrorists beheaded nine kurdish fighters, three women
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also beheaded. we've just received word that the islamic state terrorists are holding a u.s. army veteran hostage and have threatened to kill him next. former director of national intelligence john negroponte will be joining us tonight to talk about this country's foreign policy, intelligence and military global challenges. and good news for investors today, 300 billion dollars of losses wednesday, flat performance yesterday, but not today. the dow jones industrial average recovered 200+ points. a $250 billion paper rally on the day. we begin with the deadly ebola virus. texas the focus of the country's fears at the moment, that could be changing as two new potential cases revealed in the nation's capital, a place to get the attention of the members who walk the halls of congress. government officials are making progress in identifying those who have come in contact with
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the first victim, thomas duncan, and singled out ten individuals who they call high risk. fox news correspondent casey stegall with the story in dallas. >> reporter: officials at the centers for disease control and prevention have been able to successfully trace all 100 people said to have had some kind of direct or incorrect contact with thomas duncan since he arrived in texas from liberia. >> there's now approximately 50 individuals that we feel we need to follow on a daily basis. the ones that are higher concern are 10 individuals. >> reporter: the cdc says of the 100 possible cases around the country, 17 were given blood tests and so far duncan is the only positive case. and tonight officials at the white house pointing to those statistics trying to calm fears. >> every ebola outbreak over the past 40 years has been
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stopped. we know how to do this, and we will do it again with america's leadership. i'm confident and president obama is confident that this epidemic will also be stopped. >> reporter: four of thomas duncan family members are quarantined at dallas apartment. news choppers captured a hazmat team at the apartment complex scrubbing the place down. wilfred smallwood is duncan's half brother and lives near phoenix. smallwood's 24-year-old son is among the four under quarantine and spoke to him by telephone. >> everything is okay, we have food, we are here, fine. >> reporter: meantime, a fifth american diagnosed with the deadly virus, ashoka mukpo has tested positive covering the outbreak in liberia. arrangements are made for transport back to the united states for treatment to
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nebraska medical center, where an american doctor was successfully treated for ebola recently. tonight hundreds of miles from dallas, two patients are monitored in the washington, d.c., area. one at howard university hospital. another at a facility in rockville, maryland. both showing signs, symptoms of ebola. they have traveled outside of the united states to affected regions, but it is important to note they have not tested positive for the deadly virus. lou? lou: casey, thank you very much, casey stegall from dallas. our first guests are here to diagnose whether this country is equipped to deal with the ebola crisis and what we can expect in the coming days and weeks. dr. robert gary, professor in the department of microbiology and immunology at tulane university. dr. frank glover, urologist and the president of shield in africa organizations working in liberia partnering with the medical group sim.
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good to have you, doctors, let me begin with you dr. gary, the cdc continues to say that this success stopped in its tracks, yet we have two more cases, cases in utah and hawaii have proved negative. but two cases still under investigation in the nation's capital. what is your view as to whether it can be stopped quote, unquote in its tracks, as the white house has insisted? >> well, ebola will be stopped in its tracks in the united states. our public health officials will get this, all those cases that were exposed to the gentleman in dallas under control. this virus is not going to spread in the united states like west africa. lou: are you as comfortable dr. glover? >> well, i'm comfortable with it in some ways.
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i agree with the statements of dr. garry, except i don't think we're getting the full picture of what's happening in west africa. i've made 25 trips to liberia over the past few years and worked all over the country and knowing the situation there, there's a gross underrepresentation of a number of cases. i would say there are at least 20,000 cases in liberia alone right now, and because it's in its exponential growth phase. lou: in liberia alone? >> liberia alone. double the number being reported with the three countries combined. i say that with my knowledge of the place, and it's exponential growth rate is going from 10 to 100 to 1000 to 10,000 and 100,000. we have to make the assumption anyone coming from liberia potentially has been exposed to
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the virus, and so when we have workers return from these areas, we put them in a 21-day observation quarantine, and yet we have people who have no medical training and background that come from these parts and allowed to simply vanish into the population, and from a public health standpoint, and i'm a doctor of public health as well, this doesn't make sense. lou: dr. garry, what dr. glover is saying is disturbing. we've heard from other medical professionals certainly not as familiar with africa but who are saying precisely. that the screening processes are inadequate. we know that united airlines is giving notice to 400 people in proximity to patient zero but haven't contacted all of them. there hasn't been communication yet. what do you think about what dr. glover said, and why in the
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world would we not do the intelligent thing which is simply screen those coming from those countries? >> we should do that but we need technology to do that. let me say that i need to qualify my first statement. we'll get this outbreak under control in the united states. in africa, west africa it's certainly not under control. so i'm not quite as assured that the measures that we have currently in place are going to stop this outbreak in its track in west africa. i don't think they will am the situation is very dire, the cases are spread all over. we need to have different kind of thinking about how that's going to happen. yes, it's true, in the past 40 year, we've controlled all these outbreaks, but this outbreak is much different. it's much wider spread. many more cases, we certainly don't have enough resources in the area right now. i don't see the resources getting there any time soon to bring the outbreak under control in west africa. we simply can't put a ring around those countries, let all
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the people die or become the -- lou: for god's sakes, doctors, that's ridiculous of you to say. we can't put a ring around these countries and let people die when we have people like dr. glover working very harder day of their professional careers and lives to make sure that doesn't happen. this country is doing more to help everyone else. i know you didn't mean to sound glib and thoughtless, that's precisely the impact of what you said. we're talking about this country as well, and what concerns me deeply is how much we know. when doctor glover said we are underestimating the number of cases in africa, i know there are two different regions, the united states and west africa, but the reality is we're not getting a straight story from the cdc or local health authorities either in this country in the case of dallas. how can we make certain that the american people are getting straight answers from public
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health officials and the medical community? >> i think they are, let me qualify what i said, then. what i said is we can't do that. what we need to do is ensure this health care workers can get into the countries to shut this outbreak down, and you know, if we shut off all the airlines and things like that, people can't get in. so if we -- lou: wait a minute, doctor, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. >> yeah. lou: forgive me. what we're talking about is screening incoming passengers from those national origins that are dealing with ebola. that has nothing to do with flights out of this country. is it a case dr. glover just raised, and dr. dmrofr i want to turn to you, why can't we simply, simply, do intelligent, protective, sensible things like screen incoming passengers, for crying out loud? >> i think me personally, i think that's the way to go.
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right now we have a few cases, potential cases right now. next month we could have ten, the next month we could have 50. and are we going to have these people just go into the population, present to some health facility and then have to chase down hundreds, maybe thousands of contacts? we have great resources in this country, but they're not unlimited, and so in liberia only 20% of people can even get health care. the gentleman that tested positive in dallas, he had taken this woman to three different hospitals, and she was turned away and she died. he realized he was exposed and didn't want the same fate and jumped on a plane and came here. so we're giving inducement for people to come here, and i'm saying if they come here, they should be observed for a period of time so as to ensure safety of our population here in the united states. lou: and if i may say as we
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wrap up here. the honor code does not work when lives are at stake, and it is the lives those in west africa as well as the lives of the american public which one would think would be primacy for the u.s. government. we certainly hope so. dr. robert garry, thanks for being with us. >> my pleasure, lou. lou: please come back and we'll continue to watch the developments. >> i don't think we differ that much. lou: even if we do differ, that's okay too. president obama at a town hall today, there was no mention of ebola. just lots of boasting about one day's jobs report. >> this morning we learned that last month our businesses added more than 236,000 jobs. [ cheers ] . >> the unemployment rate, unemployment rate fell from 6.1
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to 5.9. [ applause ] >> what that means is that the unemployment rate is below 6% for the first time in six years. lou: no, mr. president, the labor force participation rate falling to 62.7% is the largest reason that the unemployment rate fell to 5.9%. the labor force participation rate the lowest in 36 years. there was no mention of the record 55.5 million women who are not participating in the workforce. no doubt plays a role and the president's sensibilities about the midterms, 31 days away. president obama leaving the ebola talk to white house subordinates today. josh earnest saying in off-camera briefing, quote, we continue to have strong confidence in the protocol of
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medical professionals in preventing the broader spread of ebola. there's a reason many might be disturbed by the support of the obama white house. >> president has had and has confidence in his secretary of health and human services. the president has confidence in secretary shinseki. >> the president has full confidence in the men and women in secret service including those like the director. lou: perhaps the white house should use a different expression now. one that might inspire more confidence among the rest of us who live and work outside the beltway. we're coming right back. stay with us. a world in flames, clashes between pro-democracy students in hong kong and pro-chinese government groups. pro-russian rebels filing on the danetsk airport in eastern ukraine, the former director of
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. lou: president obama's foreign policy challenges are mounting around the world. pro-democracy protesters facing off against supporters of chinese rule in hong kong. a tense confrontation that has undermined hopes for talk, aimed at ending a week of turmoil in hong kong. kurdish fighters defending a syrian border town warned of a likely massacre by the islamic state that has encircled
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kobeani with tanks and outskirts with artillery fire, shelling and attacks intensifying in eastern ukraine most of the violence in the city and the airport of danetsk. state department spokeswoman urging russia to end those attacks and stop the flow of weapons to the rebels. president obama called russia a regional power. a new report, however, clearly, clearly proves the president to have been in error. russia has more deployed nuclear weapons than the united states. to assess all of these developments and events, we're joined by former u.s. ambassador to iraq, to the united nations former director of national intelligent john negroponte. john, good to have you with us. let's begin with another, another american in the hands of the islamic state. it's been confirmed by the national security council moments ago. are we doing enough to contend,
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to degrade, to destroy the islamic state? >> well, we're certainly doing more than before. i think the president has reacted strongly to the situation. but i'd like to see, as we talk about not sending our own boots on the ground, i'd like to see us do more by way of training the iraqi and kurdish forces, we have to think of creative ways to do that, perhaps taking iraqi units to neighboring country and refitting them and retraining them. i think more emphasis has got to be placed on enabling non-u.s. boots on the ground to help confront the situation, because it can't be dealt with airstrikes and drone strikes alone. lou: leon panetta in his new book slams president obama for hesitation and half measures when it comes to syria. he said, quote, i felt the result i felt was a blow to american credibility with the
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president as commander in chief, when he draws a red line, it is critical he act, if the line is crossed. he did not. your thoughts? >> i think he's got a point, but the fact of the matter is, the president has now reacted. i think these recent atrocities, the rapid movement of the isis forces through syria and down into iraq. the capture of mosul, those were turning points and the president is committed to trying to remedy the situation, but the question is how? a lot of the issues come down to their effective implementation, and i don't see that fully developed yet. i think we got to be mindful of the fact also it's going to require both time, patience and lots of resources. lou: but when the president spoke of red line, it was a red line for bashar al-assad, and the fact is that if the president enforced that red line he would have been destroying the forces and
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removing in all likelihood bashar alarc saad from power which would have been to act in the interest of the islamic state which he decided is our number one enemy in the middle east. iran aside. these are peculiar days and convoluted days in the strategic thinking of the u.s. government. >> right, but politics makes strange bedfellows in this particular instance. with the isis having developed the strength that it has, the first priority has got to be to deal with isis, and particularly in iraq. when mosul, the second largest city in the county is in the hands of this radical terrorist force, something has to be done about that. particularly given the long association we had with the country of iraq over the past decade or so. lou: john, we are out of time. always good to see you, thank you very much for sharing your thoughts. ambassador john negroponte.
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>> thank you very much. lou: the peshmerga is not the foreign legion, don't tell that to jordan matson, a 28-year-old u.s. veteran, he's in syria fighting against the islamic state. he wanted to, quote, do something that's going to mean something, so he joined a kurdish militia and is battling the islamic state. time for a look at our online poll results, we asked whether you believe the border should be secured when faced with the possibility of deadly contagion? 98% of you said yes. somehow that's an elusive thought for our leaders in washington. vote in tonight's poll, the question is -- cast your vote at loudobbs.com. up next, a president who
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lou: coming here tonight president obama yet to address the ebola threat to the american people. despite his policy of total dependence on government, of course, and the dow jones industrial ending the week with a two-point plus rally. we'll tell you if it can stay up. we'll cross our fingers. a few comments on a week that further solidified republican prospects of taking over the senate next missouri. even more than they are last week. only because two americans were tragically beheaded did our president despite the to respond militarily to the islamic state. then two fence jumpers, then another guy riding on the elevator with the president before he would provide any accountability for the
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secret service. now, millions of american citizens are afraid of the ebola virus. president talks about the economy and the latest job reports. he can't be board by terrorist attacks, the annoyance of actually running a functioning government he has no interest with talking to the american people with what we will do and how he will prevent an outbreak of ebola on american soil. the president today unreservedly a pivot from reality to talk about the economy and to give the republican party one more massive boost to assure the g.o.p. of more victories in the midterms. listen if you will to president obama make this incredible, amazing declaration in his speech at northwestern university. obama: this notion that somehow this is an antibusiness agenda
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this happen this is a pro business agenda. this is a pro economic growth agenda. i'm not on the booklet this fall. michelle is pretty happy about that. but make no mistake, these policies are on the balance on the. every single one of them. >> every single one. you heard the president (?) correctly. president obama just made the republican case to vote out every democratic because he tied the election policies to him. president obama apparently wants republicans to win or why else would he have feblghtd -- senate raceon elections. not so happy about those remarks? democratic senators, prior, udall, land ro, the list goes on. we've been laying out the case for weeks now. that this election is not about the deeply
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unpopular president. president now has a 54 percent disapproval rating. and just when democrats thought it couldn't get any worse. now, they know how the worst of us feel from time to time. up next more on the midterm elections. what should this election be about? an incompetent president who is not getting voted for. our a team next.
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why in the world won't the president talk to people about ebola. >> as you were talking about earlier, lou, he thought the fact we had a good economic report today was probably more important than the fact that one or two americans who have been quarantined have ebola. you know, look if you want to talk about the economy, that's actually the issue that's most important to americans right now. it's not ebola. i have to say i agree with him. lou: okay. great. brad, what do you think. >> i think the president is looking for any excuse to get away from these international issues which are -- have touched our shores, whether it's beheading of americans, whether it's ebola. by the way, we had today pails in comparison to the bad news that we've had that the president refuses to talk about. >> what is that bad news in the economy? we're it our lowest unemployment rate in
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years. the dow is still at 17,000. i think if we're going to look at the economy in that way. it's doing pretty well. >> let me tell you what the bad news is. it's not how good swawls doing. it's how good main street is doing. so many people have left the job force or are underemployed. this is the type of bad news that the administration refuses to acknowledge. your talking points the best americans can hope for the new american dream under the democrats is a minimum wage. >> brad, i you've been using those talking points that wall street might be doing well, but not main street, but the fact is main street is starting to do well as well. the housing market is doing better. consumer confidence is going up. there are a number of different ways that americans are saying consumer -- lou: consumer confidence went
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down in most recent reports. home ownership is down. household median income has fallen from the time the president took office. from 54,000 dlawrs per household to now $51,000. so i'm not going to take sides in tonight's debate, but i will side with the facts and those are the facts. also we should point out when we talk about the unemployment rate that the labor participation rate reveals 55 and a half million americans who are women are no longer working. they're not participating in the work force. that is, i think, a fair characterization of a war on women. if there were any war being conducted at all, don't you, christie. >> no. i wouldn't agree with that. lou: i didn't think you would. >> nice try. i applaud that.
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i think if republicans wanted to stop their war on women they could increase the minimum wage. they could support laws for pay equity, that sort of thing. you know, these are the things that would help women in the workplace and would be laws that allow them to be economically competitive. lou: for 50 and a half million women that aren't in the work force. >> there's all kinds of reasons. some of it is voluntarily. so i'm not sure where that number comes from, but the truth is -- lou: it comes from the department of labor. >> i understand what i'm saying there's all kinds of reasons why. >> if you want to help women, it's not helping the families of americans by having one in five people on some form of government assistance including food stamps. this war on women is a total sham. women are starting to get it. >> food stamps can lift
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people out of poverty. lou: there are only the 32 million people on food stamps. now, there are 46 million. >> so we should be cutting food stamps is that the answer? lou: it goes to your point that everything is just rosy in america when to actually brad's point main street is suffering a little. let me turn to leon who has worked for, you know, bill clinton. he's worked for barack obama. he effectively said that president obama, christie, is ineffective, incompetent. >> well, what he said was he didn't see certain things we probably should have seen. and i have to say, it's somewhat inappropriate to say it while the president is still in office. you know, this is the man, leon, who didn't pay a small role in our
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foreign policy and in shaping our foreign policies. but it's a free country, he can say what he wants. lou: he said, i saw things that the president should have seen. we warden the president about things the president should have seen. and leon is trying to save his own reputation before the white house denies the people who were around him that warden him about what was coming down in america. lou: thank you both for being here. appreciate it. we're coming right back. stay with us. "hello. you can go ahead and put your bag right here." "have a nice flight." ♪ music plays
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the s&p up 22. the nasdaq up 25. volume on the big board slipping to three and a half billion shares. the dow, s&p, nasdaq, however still losses on the week just under 1 percent. general motors issuing recalls. bringing the recall to almost 30 million. be sure to listen to my financial reports three times a day. coast to coast. here now with his outlook michael holland. mike, great to have you here. we've had two weeks of mostly triple digital moves. what's happening in this market? >> lou, the training wheels are off the bicycle. the federal reserve did a number of mammalian things back six years ago when the panic hit and two of the things that are still in place or have been in place until recently, one is very low interest rates, the other one is the
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training wheels, that's called quantitative easement it means the federal reserve has been in there buying bonds in the market. that's had a very leavening effect. it's the lowest i've seen in my lifetime. it the easiest bull mark. about a month ago the market started waking up. those training wheels of buying the bonds, that's gone since those training wheels are now off -- but i don't think the bull stock market over it does mean we're going to have these big moves up and the big moves down like over the past two weeks. lou: and october known for its volatility and usually to the downside. investors who are scared to death of this market to begin with and many of whom said they would never touch it. this wouldn't be a good month to try and operate without training wheels. >> you hit on such an
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important point. there were so many people back in 1999 and 2007 who were in the market who said they will never be in the market. because they think it's a rigged game. i wouldn't trust it. a lot of people who got out of the market don't want to get back in. the last five years is conducive to calmness in the market as i've ever seen. it's not going to be like that in the next few years. it's going to be more volatile. and i think we feel okay in terms of the economy. those numbers you talked about earlier today. the market liked it because we had some more jobs, but the fact is that something you said median income is down. lou: always great to have you here with your insight. thanks so much. up next president obama chooses to tout his record on the economy in the midst of a public health emergency. why not? our analysis of the
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lou: now, our quotation of the evening. this quote from the 40th president of the united states ronald reagan. president reagan said the most tariffing words in the english words are i'm from the government and i'm here to help. (?) president obama has repeatedly acted in the interest of keeping americans dependent on government, but now that ebola has come to this country he's quiet despite rampant fear across the country. joining us tonight
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dr. keith. doctor, good to have you here. it is striking that the president has not chosen to speak on ebola. his subordinates, yes, but he understands there are greats fears in our society and country right now. why is he not speaking in your judgment. >> from a psychological standpoint, lou, i wonder whether the president finds himself tongue-tied (?) when it comes to threats of this country. as a world leader, he can deploy troops to fight ebola in other venues, but i think he finds it very difficult to act on the interests of america. literally, i think it's hard for him to do that. so whether it comes to isis as an epidemic politically and millionter riskily. as an infection that can come here when it comes to terrorism in the same way. when it comes to a
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potential epidemic visiting here (?) i think the idea idea of building boundaries and saying i'm going to protect this country. this is the nation i care most about in the whole planet, i think he finds that distasteful. lou: that's fascinating because he does withdraw, it seems. some of his lapses, he leads from behind. it doesn't seem like leadership at all. he loathes to lead. he seems reticent. as a matter of hesitation and half steps on syria. he is hesitant and his steps are never full measure. >> remember and i have hit this note before. i believe this president came to office and that there's ample data supporting the notion that he came to office believing these people kind of had it in from
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them. and the last person you want in charge of saving guarding the nation whether it comes to an illness or appoint answer of ours is someone who thinks, these are bad people. they kind of have it coming to them. lou: (?) i don't see why he would think such a thing. the country has been immensely generous to him, to his family. he's been elected for president of the united states for crying out loud. then he has an african-american the attorney general a nation of cowards when in fact the cowardice in my view was his attorney general's for not engaging on the issue. >> well, i think that, you know, the president is not a patient of mine, but were he, i would encourage him to wonder whether the degree to which individual initiative hurt him in his life by being abandon by one person after another.
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his mother, his father, his grandmother -- he was afraid of people of color. these insults to him from individuals make him no friend of the land of independence and autonomy, but rather a friend of the notion of collectivism and collectivism meaning the boundaries here in this country they don't mean anything. think about a cell trying to defend itself from an outside virus, a biological cell and extend that to the notion of the boundaries of this country. he is ill-equipped. i would pause it psychological to defend the boundaries in any way of any invader because he doesn't like what happened inside the boundaries. lou: at the hispanic caucus, he took with him interns, dreamers, illegal immigrants, he talked and was obviously more comfortable, if you will in the role of activist, talking about
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amnesty nothing on earth is going to stop him, us, from achieving their goals. but he doesn't talk like that when it comes to america. he really does not. >> right. well, there can be no amnesty for a deadly virus. there can be no amnesty for a an isis terrorist who wants to behead you. and the president doesn't have arrows in his quiver for of arrows when it comes to real threats like that. he has arrows for margin threats. chief among them is the united states of america as a colonial bad power in the world. lou: dr. keith, instructive, fascinating. thank you very much. that's it for us. stay tuned for cavuto coming up next tonight. monday we'll have the editor of the hill. ab as to thers, the blaze host dana loesch. michael goodwin among
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