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you in the morning. i'll see you in the morning. keeping you in hands of lou dobbs. >> president obama airstrike strategy to defeat islamic state terrorist in syria. is not working. according to kurds on ground who tonight find themselves surrounded surrounded like radical islamist terrorists in cobani. and i islamic state forces and kurds bating it on put two wee weeks. they are now asking obama administration for heavy
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hepones, kurdish leader say that airstrikes alone are not enough to defeat the islamic state in kobani . president obama's leadership criticizeed at home by former defense secretary leon panetta the man president obama hand-picked to lead the cia, when he stepped into white house, then elevated him to head of defense department, panetta is questioning the president's ability to lead, hammered the president in regard to rise of the islamic state, said quote, president obama relies on the logic of a law professor rather than the passion of a leader, he avoids bating, complains and misses opportunities, here is panetta tal talking to "usa tod. >> the last 2 years he lost his
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way. you know it has been a mixed message. ambevilance in approaching and clarifying the role of the country. lou: we'll take this up with four-star general jack keane. >> democrats are staying away from president obama on the campaign trail, and his former top advisor said he made a big mistake when he said his possiblys on are on every ballot this november. >> we begin on the syrian border with turkey, kurdish fighters defend kobani against an assault by theic lambic state, turkey's military is watching and waiting for orders to enter the battle. fox news contract on the syria-turkey border and has our report. >> reporter: black terror flags of isis over the town of kadani,
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kurdish fires claim they still hold the town but it befall, it could have huge symbolic for isis. >> we have been pushed back about 2 1/2 miles by the turkey military from kobani over there, you can see a plume of explosion from an impact, and we can see and hear the action going on, between the isis terrorists, and the brave kurdish defenders of the town. 2 to 3,000 kurdish fighters are trying to fend of off the terrorists with light weapons and ammunition running low they barely hanging on. two isis positions were hit near kobani but in last several days isis tanks and armed vehicles have been freely moving across
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the countryside. people here, including 180,000 ,000 refugees' more done. >> it is very hard to me, i see my people are killed. >> reporter: would you like to see more u.s. air strikes. >> we need it. >> reporter: on hills near kobani, turkish tanks are poiseed. stray shells have landed causing injuries, turkey has had trouble with sometimes rebellious ethnic kurds. while terrorists continue their floody march. near -- bloody march, fox news. lou: with us retired four-star army general, general jack keane, chairman of the institute for study of war, and fox news military analyst, general, you told us whether this began that airstrikes would not be enough,
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the kurds agree. >> no doubt. what we're seeing is something that resembles a conventtional attack. they are using isis -- is sis sis using morttarys to prepare tanks and ground fighter that is a conventional attack on the you ttown,they should be vulneribleo airstrikes, i am a little -- mist fied to why we are not able to attack the vulnerable targets at the daytime, when they are conducting their operations. these targets are available to us. lou: there have been reports that president is approveing targets for the s against the islamic state. do you believe that to be literally true or is it just a broad approval that he would
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give? >> i think it is a broader approval. i mean, we have not had a president get involved in the details of something like that back to the vietnam war with johnson. so, i suspect this is a broader approval, i know, that there is a sense of frustration in central command headquarters that overseeing the wharf war ae airplaneing that rules of engagement that govern airstrikes and target selection are too restrictive. because they are trying to avoid so-called collateral damage, that is code word for killing innocent people. the fact that their a number of targets that would not kill anybody but the intended purpose isis. and yet they cannot strike them, hopefully it will be removed whether we goal air ground controllers there, that will improve it. lou: how soon should we expect
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those ground controllers to be there? >> he has not made the -- president has to make a policy change. and as of right now, he is not accepted a military recommendation to do that some of it has been done in iraq but a very small scale basis this has to be improved in iraq, and also in syria, syria we can use coalition to help us, not just us, we can get the jordanians and uae involved as well to assist free syrian army and kurds but to the best of my think not sure we're -- knowledge we're not pushing on that to a degree we should. lou: kobani on border with turkey, and syria. showing tanks, turkish tanks on reado that border to launch attacked but not orders to do so
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as the city of kobani, kurdish leaders say they are in fear of an out right massacre. do you expect the turks to enter the battle? >> i think they would have entered it by now, particularly so, you want to get after these isis before they got into the town. in that open terrain, you know they would be no match for the turks armor forces and their art till rare the ari with air powey made a decision, that defensive only not offensive. they will defend turkey, their border regardless of when is taking place on the other side of the border with syrian kurds. there are issues that complicate this, i have been mystified by turkey's lack of commitment to the coalition from the outset.
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lou: turning to leon panetta former defense secretary, head of cia, this is a president that uses a law professor's logic does not want to assert himself in battle, he wants to avi avoid battle, is tentative, your thoughts? >> absolutely. i certainly do not have the close relationship to express that on a personal level, and characterize it. probably as well asp he has but just watching policy decisions from 2009 to present, 6 decisions he made where he has every time rejected resource requirements that military or national security team has provided to do the job, every single time, he has limited or restricted it, and every time with ad adverse consequence. hero are again, he seems to say to us, despite the destroy, and
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defeat isis, he seems too say degreed and contain. the mission appears to have changed. despite the goal on that speech he made a number of weeks ago. lou: and panetta seems to be in agreement with you, saying he is looking at this conflict with islamic state as perhaps a thirst year war which would -- 30-year war which is not really degrade, and destroy as an urgent strategy, general jack keane, always good to have you here. >> thank you, good talking to you. lou: president obama today announced his administration will begin tightening screening protocols for airline passengers to defect those who enter country who may have contracted ebola. >> if they have the right information and they are following the protocols then this is something that we're going to be able to make sure does not have you know the kind
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of impact in the united states that a lot of people are worried about. but, that requires everyone to make sure they stay informed, most fantastically our he'll work -- particularly our he'll people workers and patro protocols for additional passenger screening. at the source and here in united states. lou: president did not say when the enhanced protocols or screenings would go into effect. even at that, it is unlikely to satisfy many contribut critics l for an out right travel ban, patient zero is fighting hear his life in a dallas area hospital, thomas duncan's condition has worsened. he is now listed in critical condition, but he is receiving an ex per. aexperimental drug, and an
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american journalist who contracted ebola is back in this country, and treated at a omeara hospital. overseas spain reports a spanish nurse contracted the ebola virus after carrying for a sick priests, the first person infected with ebola outside of west africa, overall more than 3400 people have died from the worse outbreak in history. in west africa. >> we're coming right back. >> president obama said his policies are up for a vote, all of them on the ballot, one of his former top advisors said high made a big mistake in how big? columnist michael goodwin. and ed rollins, next. ♪
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lou: david axelrod said that president made a mistake when he said all of his policies will be on his ballots all over the country, the president refreshing everyone's thoughts. >> i'm not on the ballot this fall, michelle is happy about that. but make no mistake the policies are on the ballot. every single one of them. >> that was a mistake, you know family, the issue -- you know fundamentally the issue he should be driving is forward looking because problem is how are middle class people going to make a living, what policies can help we should have that debate. lou: only word to pay attention to was a mistake. to talk about midterm elections now 28 days away.
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ed rollins, for "new york post", michael goodwin, fox news contributors, i was impressed, michael, were you not, he said it was a mistake. >> right, interesting, axelrod, if the reports are true is kurt off by own -- cut off by obama is no longer part of the inner circle, he said what democratic party should be doing, they might have been -- >> it is clear he was a former advisor. >> i think they would be better served, he was pretty good. lou: they were better in first term at least, avoiding some of these minefields they have been in. >> the great thing there are 5 incumbents in real trouble. to be able to wrap ope obama ard them are a benefit to republican candidates. not his policies, it is his lack of leadership, i would be hard
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pressed to know any policy he passed beside obamacare, and that is still a liability it is his lack of leadership that is dragging him and his party down. lou: idea that michelle obama up with martha coakley in massachusets running for senate governor. after lost senate to scott brown. she is -- she is dead even with the republican for crying out loud there is the first lady putting herself on the line for her. >> you know, when we hear polls like that, it does begin to suggestion that this could be a real republican wave, that if -- >> let me repeat, massachusets. here. massachusets! >> even for governor's race, and so, this is a kind of thing that suggestions that there is a discontent with the president is wide, and deep, there was a poll in new york blue new york, president obama approval rating
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was 39% in new york. >> incredible. >> even in this time of serious international conflict, whether you have former secretary leon panetta, cia director, secretary of defense, come forward, and a guy reported b respected by bots saying he sees a real failure in leadership, if you think that americans' to vote for democrats senate to give him last 2 years to do whatever he wants, i don't think that is going to happen. >> lou, too, you have panetta, cia and secretary of defense, and robert gates secretary of defense, and hillary clinton, who wrote about some same issues in her book, secretary of state, have you really, a center of power in the obama administration, leaving and criticizeing the president, i can not remember any time in recent history you had that kind of substantive criticism on the
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same line of his failure to lead, and act, and panetta is within on to say he gets discourranked and quits, these are damning indictments from people who know him best. >> jack keen said it best, 6 mayor decisions put forward by pentagon on how to fight the wars, and he rejected every one of them. lou: stunning the degree at this which this president that rejected the decisions. to do so without -- you know for security not to be able to protect people. and investment of lives we have spent over the course of the past decade, in both countries is to me inex blix in. to the election, in kentucky senator mcconnell slipping, should he be nervous.
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>> in a state like kentucky always serious, probably a hundred million spent in that race, i think in the end he will win by a couple points, he will get leader majority. lou: vice president biden, a two apolicy skwraoebgd foapoll -- ae vice president. >> every time he opens his mouth he says something dumb or wrong or stupid, 161,000 killed in joplin, missouri in a town of 50,000, 1 sworn wer 161 were ki. is he even thinking about what he says. lou: do you remember when everyone talked about in 2008
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elect these two were an inexperienced young college law practice fess or, an -- professa bumbleing bafoon, everyone thought it was cute bui don't think anyone is laughing. >> the president condition lead, and this -- president can't lead and this guy can't keep his mouth shut, they have both done damage. lou: looking at on-line poll results, why you surprised that a president who believes in total government depends refuses to take act to relieve fears and concerns of america public on issue of ebold avote in the toll tonight, do you believe that united states should do intensive screening of all passengers flies from the ebola strict en west african nation. >> up next, supreme court,
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lou: coming up here tonight new signs pointing to cooperation between the iranians and the obama administration, former ambassador christopher hill will join us to access. and former defense secretary leon unloading on the president. dana loesch joins us. the supreme court has cleared the way for five new states to begin recognizing five same-sex marriages. the justices turpitude down appeal requests seeking to prohibit same-sex marriage. virginia began issuing same sex certificates this afternoon. we turn to shannon for our story. >> day one of the supreme court's new remember it and the impact of a new decision is republicanneling across the country by declining to take up any of the seven cases the court stayed out of the debate for now.
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which means lower court decisions striked down same sex bans goes in he came. i'm surprised about this and disappointed. i believe the people have this hearing taking place at the supreme court level to determine what is a significant issue of our time. >> in a number of states including virginia, officials immediately began issuing licenses and conducting weddings. >> this is the outcome. this is the outbelieve that we have hoped for. it is the outcome we have fought for and it is the outcome that the constitution requires. (?) >> the plablght impact of today's decision will likely bring the total number of states that allow same-sex marriage to 30 along with the district of columbia. but by the justices staying out, the country remains divided. between states where same sex can marry and states are the other are
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the law. there is still the possibility that couples in hold out states will not be able to marry if they are in relationship with -- with a person of the same sex. >> supporters of traditional marriage say they're discouraged, but not diswaited by today's decision. they're keeping an eye out from a ruling from the sixth circuit. if the court up holds that rule, it will create a split giving the supreme court a real incentive to get involved in the debate. >> we cannot allow a republican to function in a way in which our founders never. that's completely unacceptable both marriage is at stake and the future of what kind of government we are. >> that ruling from the sixth circuit could literally come at any time. you can bet it will be on a fast track to the supreme court. meaning the issue could
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easily wind up on the court's calendar this term. lou: the president's refusal to enforce immigration laws is now contributing to what has become a new demographic shift in america. a new study finds a record nearly 62 million people in the country now speak a foreign language at at home that's an increase of nearly 2 million since 2010. the languages with the largest increase. spanish. 1.4 million new speakers since 2010 followed by chinese and arabic. a separate study african immigrants have roughly doubled each decade for the past 40 years. from about 80,000 to 1.6 million in 2012. the metropolitan areas with the largest african born populations, new york, followed by washington, atlanta and los angeles, we are coming right back. stay with us.
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>> leon says the united states faces a 30 year war against the islamic state and president obama's decisions, many of them have made the fight much harder. more on the explosive statements of the former defense secretary next.
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lou: former defense secretary leon panetta suggesting a 30 year war with the islamic state while blasting the president's leadership. joining us now "the a-team." associated editor for the hill. radio talk show host dana loesch. thank you for being with us. let me start with you. a 30 year war amidst all the volatile things that panetta said. a 30 year war has got to rip the gut of americans everywhere. >> right.
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that's tearving. that's three decades. we have heard from military decades and experts of the middle east since the president committed to the air campaign against isis that this was going to take many, many years, that the average insurgenciy lasts a decade and something like this is going to go on for some time. longer than the administration initially estimated. so i think americans know that countering islamist threats around the world is something that is going to be an ongoing challenge. but when you say something like 30 years, that sounds very disheartening. lou: at the very best, sobering. dana, your reaction. >> i just wish that we would have put a little bit more effort in prevention. especially when we consider that the president wasn't taking the advice of many of his generals, a lot of individuals within the pentagon in keeping a
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residual force there in iraq. of course, that all created the vacuum that we now isis or the islamic state enjoying. they were able to spring up because of that. a number of things. it's so easy to act in a proactive preinventivive manner to keep it from becoming what it is becoming now. when i look at 30 years, i have little boys. in 30 years, they're eligible for the draft if we ever have that reinstated. i have a a very brand-new way of looking at this and i'm concerned. lou: and at the same time, the national leadership. vice president biden, it was a double apology weekend for him. apologizing to the emirates and turkey for his statements. what the in the world is going on with this administration? the wheels look like they're off.
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panetta accusing the president of being diffident. >> i do think vice president's -- are not new. he often tells the truth and it's stuff he's not allowed to say as the vice president. they're very frustrated in the administration about many of our allies have funded jihadist groups around syria and iraq and other neighboring countries for years now. and that, you know, in particular turkey has been a passer and a conned uit enabling isis for some time. that is a source of frustration. what panetta is talking about is very damning because he's saying the president gives up. complains. and actually the things that he listens which dana just mentioned, prevention that he didn't come to -- he
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didn't negotiate in iraq. he ruled out ground troops in this current operation. he drew a red line about chemical weapons in syria, and he backed up on that. all these things are an incredible criticism of the president's policies. panetta is saying, it's a bit too late. >> you know, with joe biden in terms of offending turkey and saudi arabia, is it really all that different than what the president behind the at when late last month he was speaking about how certain of our allies need to stop enabling certain faxes. when i consider what joe biden said he's sort of criticizing what the administration has done in terms of come batting ga daffy. we completely did a 180 with regards to how we
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were going to handle assad. so it's confusing. this happening simultaneously while leon panetta who i don't think anyone can say he lacks credibility. he had two of the most influential positions. i don't think anybody is able to brush off that criticism. plus joe biden and all of this, it doesn't do anything to lift those poll numbers of americans saying they have no faith in the administration and the government to protect them (?) lou: of course, the white house said he was not legitimate as a critic of the administration. you know, josh earnest replying to a question asking if he was a legitimate critic and, of course, he said absolutely not. let's turn to one thing that perhaps will lighten hearts here. we got about 30 seconds. ab, edwin edwards he is the man for the democratic party and louisiana going after
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that congressional seat. what do you make of his kd? >> well i think he's running as a character. and i think that he will get a lot of local support because he's a long-standing character in that state. he's very beloved. that's probably the extent of it. i don't know if he's going to win over young people who have never heard of him, but i think he deserves credit for trying. i heard a wonderful interview with him recently about how he thought this was the right -- he had one more calling and this is what he had to do. lou: and '87-year-old sixth longest serving governor. dana, you get the last word on this. >> god bless america, lou. you know god bless america. this is why i like politics. you never know exactly what you'll get with it. lou: thanks a lot. amen is all we can say
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to that. our quotation of the evening this one for former secretary treasury chief of staff chairman and ceo of merrill lynch. doonld, and he said and i was thinking of mr. panetta, you got to give loyalty down if you want loyalty up. on wall street stocks falling slightly. the dow down 17 points. the nasdaq down 21. 3.3 billion shares. hp shares up 5 percent after announcing it's going to split into two companies. a reminder listen to my financial reports three times a day. the box office, this weekend, good news for the movie business after a horrible summer. two movies did far better than expected president new thriller. gone girl took first place. thirty-seven and a half million for fox. horror film annabelle. raking in 37.1 million for warner brothers.
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last week's number one the equalizers down. up next my commentator on why democrats are getting nervous about these midterms and why they should be next.
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lou: a few comments on the slow moving train wreck that's playing out in the democratic party. right now three of the most followed forecasters, the washington post, the new york times and nate's blog give republicans a 58 percent chance of retaking control of the senate in part because democratic candidates are trailing in critical battleground states and also because president obama just can't help himself. he's the gift that just keeps on giving to the republican party. listen to this new political ad out of kansas. >> now, barack obama says i'm not on the
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ballot this month, but make no mistake, these policies are on the ballot. every single one of them. obama's candidate for senate in kansas. greg orman is a vote for the obama agenda. jokers whoa tough stuff and a growing number of polls says, yes -- according to gallup 32 percent of voters are going to choose a candidate (?) at the voting booth. that sends a message of opposition to the obama agenda compared to only 20 percent who will vote for a candidate that supports the obama agenda. the margin is similar to 2010, when democrats lost control of the house. how much trouble is mr. obama in here? the obama is doing so poorly that even saturday live is taking shouts at him. >> mr. president, thank you for joining me. obama: it's great to be here, steve.
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>> is it? obama: not particular no. >> now, mr. president much has been made about the coalition you've assembled, but it sounds like america is bearing the brunt of this campaign. >> steve, that's how we roll, we roll slow and deliberately. almost like we have no idea where we're rolling to. lou: it's far too early for a celebration, but the time seems right for at least a modest hope for a lot of change. a slight g.o.p. grin would be in order. up next, you've seen international turmoil from the break up of yeugz to the war in iraq. all first hand. former ambassador christopher hill on a world in crisis. his new book outpost published tomorrow. stay with us.
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lou: our next guest chronicles more than three decades is a diplomat for the united states in his new book. serving in high profile rolls in iraq, north korea, and kosovo among others joining us is christopher hill. dean of the university joseph kesh i will school of international studies. his new book is entitled outpost. life on the front lines. available tomorrow in bookstores near you or at your fingertips online. good to have you with you us. and congratulations on the book. it's terrific. we wish you all the best with it. i've got to ask you as you watch what is happening right now in the middle east, do you see any seeds the time that you were there, in the early years of the -- of the obama administration 2009 and '10 that would have
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implied what we're witnessing today. >> oh, i think so. it a tough part of the region, but if you start with the premise, there are good guys and bad guys. you might be in some trouble. i think you have to be very careful who is a good guy there. so certainly that was clear. and i think it was clear that the administration really wanted to follow up on the president's campaign promise to get our troops out and end the war. and as it's been pretty clear, it's not so easy to end the war there. lou: not so easy to the end the war there. and as you say, the difficulty of choosing good and bad guys there is almost at the same level of listening to presidents rationalize the results of their foreign policies when it comes to the middle east whether that president be president obama or whether that president be george w. bush. we are back on another conflict with a terrorist organization. when in fact we haven't
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resolved or won the conflict with any other group, whether in afghanistan, whether it is in iraq, this superpower of ours seems stalemated and frustrated at every turn. why is that? >> it's very tough. basically, when we went into iraq, we took a country that was run by the sunnies. alb it saddam hussein and flipped it to be shia run and that was the for the first time in several centuries. and history was not just what happened last tuesday. in that part of the world, we're talking about thousands of years. so the sunnies have never accepted shia rules. we ended up with a tough guy named ma lackey, we've been dealing with a very, very difficult situation. when we've been trying to get other allies, they've been much more worried about the shia
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then they have about radical shias like isis. lou: ideas the united states appear like fools because that history as you say that goes back hundreds and hundreds of years is not unfamiliar (?) to our ambassadors, our diplomats, our security team, many americans and certainly much of the world. so why is it that we resist knowledge and comprehension when it comes to foreign policy whether republican or democrat? >> well, to some extent it goes way into our dna, and we're a people who basically have an optimistic approach to everything, and that every problem surely has a solution. but some of these problems don't have any ready made solutions. and frankly, if it does have a solution, are we the ones to bring it to them. this is a tough issue and the world looks to america to lead. even though it's not at
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all clear where we can lead this place to. lou: and yet we keep trying to intervene if not lead. we keep trying to dispose if not point of fact resolve. and i don't remember a great deal of contrition on the part of diplomats, national security savants, full f you will, our military class, and i'm talking about our flagstaff officers about what has been achieved. >> that is noticeably absent, the notion of contrition. part of it has to do when you're a diplomat you try to look forward and look at the problem to see if you can make it better. i mean, we're not lawyers. lou: god bless you for that. >> we're not looking backgrounds to see who caused this mess. we look forward.
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and (?) and i think in that process maybe sometimes you don't look at the problems you created in the first place, and i think a much more american look at what has gone on in this part of the world. and it's not just in iraq. and if you live in iraq, and i try to make this clear in the book, you realize it was a good day when saddam had left the scene. it would have been a better day when we understood what we were dealing with sunni and shia and that has taken a long time to figure out. lou: are you being surprised by the criticism that is being lodged at this president. secretary of state hillary clinton obviously unkind words. these were people who were closest to him and foreign policy and carrying it out. your thoughts? >> well, i must say, i've worked for a lot of different presidents, and you try to give them your best job and also
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your loyalty, i am a little surprised when people criticize him as if they had some bleacher seat to the action. i mean, they were right there in the middle of the action, and it is a little surprising when they go after someone, a president, because they were right there in the first place. lou: they may not have been in charge, they had their hands certainly on the levers. thanks for being with us. the book is outpost. we recommend it to you highly. available online in bookstores tomorrow. ambassador, thanks for being with us. >> thank you. pleasure. lou: time for your comments. ebola remind that you say the border should always be secure. obama and holder's refusal to enforce border law makes them accomplices. the iranian talk seemed like a total sham at this point. perry in california
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emailed as a veteran veteran i'm so riled up how we're being used. you don't let loose the dogs of war with a muzzle. we thank you for your comments. and thank you for being withats us.
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