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u.s. ebola patient thomas duncan passed away earlier today. we have reports that there is a second possible ebola case in the dallas area and the patient is a dallas county sheriff's deputy who was in contact with duncan's family who was inside shmpapartment where drst sickness. >> this patient had reported that he had initially been in
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the apartment and had some contact with family members. >> the frisco texas fire chief made the confirmation after tom fre frieden telling america how little control he believes the centers for disease control has in the prevention effort against ebola. dr. frieden said whatever we do we can't get the risk to zero in this country. only frieden has ever raised the issue of zero risk or perfection. the comments come after explanation of a new screening procedure being enacted in just five u.s. airports, screening that dr. frieden says will only apply to about 150 passengers a day. also tonight secretary of state john kerry and pentagon
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spokesperson both suggested the kurdish town of chobani is not a priority of this administration. the syrian town appears likely to fall to the islamic state after what has been a fierce three week fire fight. admiral kirby all but today conceded defeat. >> air strikes alone are not going to do this, not going to fix this, not going to save the town. >> is it time to ask for permission to use ground forces there? >> no. >> also, would the pentagon consider the fall a strategic loss? >> i don't know that we are going to characterize it one way or the other. >> we will take up the ambivalence and vagaries of the obama anti-islamic state campaign here tonight. dr. anthony fouchy is the director of institute of allergy and diseases.
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great to have you with us. we have seen a change in attitude it seems on the part of the administration now talking about screening and moving up what will be one assumes and we would like to hear from you, rules that will further assure the american public that they are the number one priority of our public health officials. >> well, what is going on now without any changes is watt we call exit screening. if someone goes to the airport in liberia and wants to get on the plane you are screened for temperature and you have a questionnaire to ask if you are feeling well or sick and if you have had known contact with someone suspected of or having ebola. that is really it. right now what i consideration and is actually being discussed is adding something, another layer on the incoming and of the arrival
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portion of the trip. so instead of having exit screening you are having inistry screening. that would likely consist of a number of things possibly retaking the temperature again to make sure it was taken correctly or making sure someone in that very long flight over didn't all of a sudden develop a fever to indicate that they might have ebola as well as to re-ask certain questions. that is one of the things on the table, another layer of screening and people coming into the country. >> and that seems prudent. i have heard several public health officials and i am not going to name names here because it is immaterial talk about there is no such thing as a zero risk approach to screening but it is inarguable that it is better than not screening, correct? >> it is correct there is no such thing as zero risk. someone could be infected with ebola and not have a fever and
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even not know they were exposed or maybe even cover up that they were exposed and get their temperature taken when they get on and even if you have the extra added layer at the incoming part they may not be then. if you look at the fellow who is now in dallas, he didn't develop a fever until four days after he arrived into united states. so that is something that would have escaped the fever. so that is what we mean by not 100%. nothing can be 100%. >> the thing i don't understand is why anybody would go to the trouble of saying that it is not a perfect system. there is nothing in life that is. >> that's right. >> i would rather hear public health officials talking about the ways in which they are protecting the american public as best they can, screening intensely. >> and that's exactly correct. i agree with you. that is what is being done now is being flexible, everything is
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on the table and consideration of that extra added layer is something that is being discussed and almost certainly will be implemented. >> and the idea that a vaccine can be developed in time, a vaccine in this instance, you are leading the effort to bring one of those to reality. how close is the vaccine you are working on, how does it appear right now? >> i will give you the exact data. it will be obvious. we are in a phase one trial. yo ahave to make sure it is safe. we are doing it here in bethe a bethesda, maryland. if it looks good and safe it looks like it induceathize response you want we will start a very much expanded clinical trial in west africa, likely in liberia, sometime in the first
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quarter of 2015. if it works well and if there are enough infections that occur to give you enough data we should know sometime several months into 2015. it could be mid or towards the end of 2015 whether it works or not. if it works then it could be widely deployed. meanwhile, people in the trial -- and there will be a lot of people in the trial, if it does work they will have the benefit of getting the vaccine in the trial. >> we know you are busy as you can be. we appreciate you taking the time. thanks so much. >> always good to be with you. up next, a kurdish town of 200,000 people in western syria surrounded by radical islamists who mean to kill them all. this is our secretary of state on their fate. . >> we have conducted additional strikes in the region. as horrific as it is to watch in real time, what is happening in
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kobani is important to remember you have to step back and understand the strategic objective and where we have begun over the course of the last weeks. >> i'm sure that that was very moving to the 200,000 people entrapped in kobani. is this how america now wages war? we take up that issue next. so ally bank really has no hidden fees on savings accounts? that's right. it's just that i'm worried about you know "hidden things..." ok, why's that? no hidden fees, from the bank where no branches equals great rates. revolutionary by every standard. and that became our passion.
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joining us tonight fox news military analyst. general, good to have you with us. >> hi, lou. >> i was shocked that this is only his third visit to the pentagon. and the meeting basically to persuade i guess the generals of his air strike campaign strategy and the generals to persuade him of doing far more. what do you think the outcome was? >> i think the outcome was business as usual. it was clear when the president went to the pentagon that his strategy wasn't going to change. and to their credit, as i have been told today, the joint chiebasica happened over the last 50 days. they showed him the numbers and bomb damage assessment and say mr. president, your campaign has degraded isis beutyou told us your objective is to destroy them. if you follow the current course you may degrade them but very
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unlikely that you will ever destroy isis. >> the idea that our military is now captivated by a long war as is apparently this president or conflict whatever he might style it as. we have gone from the petraeus long war to the latest administration staff ranks in the pentagon to now decades. generational wars. general, i have to ask you, americans have little stomach for generals who can't win and presidents who ina tangle us abroad in adventures that we don't conclude or achieve victory. >> there is an old soldier saying, go big or go home. and that's what basically what the joint chiefs are trying to tell the president, let me give you 20 seconds of numbers. we defeated the taliban over 70
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days in 2001-2002, a force larger than isis with 450 special forces on the ground, dropping over 17,000 bombs. so far over 50 days of this campaign they have flown 382 missions over 50 days. and no special forces on the ground. that just gives you a metric that defines what we are about. at that rate it will be a 30-year ward and two former secretaries of defense, two ambassadors and a former president have told the commander in chief that that is what is going to happen. >> why, then, are we not hearing from our leaders either in the military or whether it be secretary of state clinton, secretary of defense gates, secretary of defense pan eta. why are not the leaders in our national security team and ranks saying if they disagree with
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this direction and the impact and and lack of potential success follows that strategy, why aren't some of them standing up and saying i can't serve any longer, i am done here? i think you are utterly mistaken. >> i have been in this business a long time. i have never seen a coalition of opposition like this in my entire career. when you have ambassadors and think tank gurus and generals and former defense secretaries and former presidents almost uniformally counseling the president that his current course is the wrong one i don't know how much more advice you can give to the commander in chief. at the end of the day it is the guy who turns to his inner circle and says continue the campaign business as usual. may you say generals can quit, generals have done that in the past.
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if you think the entire joint chiefs quit tomorrow it will change the course? >> i think it would change history. and i think it is about time that some of the people writing a lot of books did something rather than wrote something. general, you are one of the folks who has done a lot and we appreciate it. thanks for being with us. 26 days until the mid terms. the president's under water approval ratings have republicans rejoicing. is it a little early? is it a little early? republican strategist and
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enagage with us. the newest fox poll looks at five key mid term states revealing a dismal perception of president obama's job performance. his approval numbers in alaska, arkansas, colorado, kansas and kentucky all in the 30% range. his disapproval numbers in each of those hotly contested states hovering at or above 60%. despite this republican candidates only leading state by state between four and seven
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points not far outside the margin of error. here to analyze the mid terms just 26 days away former deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush. one would expect republicans to be much farther ahead than they are tied up. >> remember all three of the races in democratic states that are covered in the new fox polls are against democrat incumbents. if these were open races these seats would be settled today. it is hard to be an incumbent and everyone saw a tough election year coming. they have been on the attack since day one. the good news is that our candidates appear in these races to have basically survived the on slot and in some cases prosperred. these races, arkansas, alaska and colorado, if they are added
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to the other three open democratic seats where everybody shows republicans ahead would give us necessary to win the senate. that leaves out iowa and louisiana which have been polled by the fox news previously and republican candidate was ahead in louisiana and tied in iowa. >> she is an attractive candidate by every definition yet it has been much tighter than most people thought it would be, her contest. >> well, remember, she came -- the democrats settled on one candidate early on. bruce brailly had 2013 and 2014 to run in the clear. she came through a bitter republican primary and captured it. it was a tough primary. she is a state senator who represents 1/40 of the state.
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he starts out a lotknown than she was. the fact she moved ahead of him is a testament to the strength of her candidacy. until this quarter she has been outspent by the democratic allies by a considerable margin. >> i love the way you say democratic allies. you make it sound like they are gang members. i love that. >> some of them are pretty tough. harry reid is not exactly -- his people are brutal. the things they have been saying about these candidates, one of the fox polls covers arkansas. democrats ran an ad saying republican didn't want to prepare america against ebola. this is how tough they have been. >> tough races in lots of places. american cross roads has raised $100 million to throw into the mid terms. the republicans right now are
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getting outspent. do you close the gap here in the final days? we are 26 days away now from the election. >> good news is here in the final four weeks of the campaign for republicans the good news is that the spending gap has narrowed dramatically in part because of outside groups but because republican candidates are having exceptional success as we close the campaign. corey garner in colorado raised $4.3 million. joany earnest $4.5 million. in arkansas raised a record amount for a senatorial candidate incumbent or challenge r in arkansas. the gap is starting to close and the parties will be in these critical contests will be a rough parody. there will be a couple of races right now today in north carolina and new hampshire the republicans are being outspent but the gap has been closing and i suspect it will close even in those two states. >> let's turn quickly.
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south dakota, that senate race is just blown up it looks like. three folks fighting it out, republican, democrat and independent who famously brought the telecommunications act into being. how do you expect that to unwind with what looks like the scandal to governor rounds, are they going to make it stick? >> i don't think so. there is one poll that shows the race close. the rest of the polling shows the race open. with a big margin for rounds. he has a gap between he and wieland. it is a small state, a superpack being run by a harvard professor is going to come into the state and support with $1 million. that is a lot of money for a small state like south dakota. i think rounds wins this not by
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the margin that he leads in most polls today which is well into the double digits but i think he wins it and wins it. he was a very popular governor and attacks on his ethics i don't think they are sticking. >> great to have you with us. >> thank you, lou, appreciate it. the country is ready for a change in the white house and so is president obama. will there be a shakeup? every job in the white house could be on the line except for one. that's next.
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>> i don't know where things went off track. i thought i was doing everything right and then i am, i guess kbr lost hope. i had to move back in with my parents after everything they have done for me. >> it's great work. anyone else want to share? >> my name is dan and i'm unemployed. >> hi, dan. >> big government is killing opportunity for young americans. don't they deserve the dream? >> dreamers. what do you think? >> i was -- it is the first time i have seen the whole thing. i was thrown by the tone. it does have that rehab feeling about it. and then you get the joke that for them this is the serious issue that they don't have work and life has gone off track. it could be in certain states where i think this is going to run, this could be very effective. it will get your attention.
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>> it's for five states where vulnerable democrats are there. i want to give the americans for prosperity, i have to compliment them. they have taken the battle for mind space directly at the point of which democrats at least in media live. >> that's right. how is this obama economy working for the poor? we see statistics on poverty going through the roof. how is the obama economy working for people who thought he represented hope and change? i am so depressed after watching it. i think it properly connects with the fact that people think this country is on the wrong track. i hope it has a sequel that explains what the republican candidates will do to fix the problem. >> less than say halloween or
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what's the name of the jack the ripper. what is being conducted here is a battle against the middle class. i think it nails it because it's about time people understand. this is not some sort of seren dipity. there is cause and effect. the cause are policies by this administration that are absolutely -- and by the way, some by the previous administration -- that are devastated. >> i think the american people understand that the obama economy is wrecking this country. republicans need to -- >> now i'm starting to think you are, as well. >> that is what republicans were saying in 2012. they have a record that only a fool could endorse. >> i think that the news for republicans is that this november is not just about the fact that it is obama who people are worried about. they are also worried with anybody who has been in office with what their solutions are.
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if there is not clear solutions for the problems they are not going to vote for them, either. >> i think mr. obama has made it in. his policies are in the ballot in every state. >> that is one of the issues that i think linking every candidate with president obama. you have seen it in all of the ads where all you have to do is say harry reid and barack obama. that is the answer to the debates and the tag line in every ad. i think fundamentally it will work. the president's personal popularity is so low and his job approval is so low that the democrats have to fight against their own president. >> those numbers have been upside down as you know for the past year for the president. we are looking at tight races. i went through some of them with karl rove earlier here tonight. you would expect i think reasonablebly that republicans would have a greater lead.
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we are talking about 60% disapproval in five states. only 30% approval ratings for the president. what do you think is going to happen? >> i agree with both of you that the president is in the tank with his numbers. that will accrue to the benefit of the republican candidates. there is no question that attacking obama gets them very far. they have to make sure that they don't assume that the american people are in love with them. they have to have clear solutions. i think there is a great chance that the republicans will pick -- >> like the republican national party? >> that is a fair question. that is a fair question. we have to have specific policies to answer the angst that the american people have. i am not here to be a cheerleader for the party. i think we will do great in november. republicans have to have a clear agenda. if they get the gavels and have a chance to lead in the senate and the house they will have to show the american people what they got. >> super.
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>> you get the last word. >> i think today we had jimmy carter pile in on barack obama's foreign policy. >> i think that probably was probably the president didn't mind that a bit. >> it felt a little bit like if this were the nfl they would have blown the whistle. this is unnecessary roughness. everybody knows beating up on the president. this is a sign that it is almost impossible for him to do anything in the next 26 days that would make a difference in this party's favor. >> you are a wealth of compassion. >> thank you both for being with us. up next the president likes to say his economic record is all but indisputable in benefits. my commentary will take up that
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toxic and he is unwanted. hardly a single democrat wants to be seen with him on the campaign trail but the president keeps trying to insert himself into their campaigns. last week the president inexplicably trotted out his record on the economy apparently in the delusion that it would somehow be a positive. >> so it is indisputable that the economy is stronger today than when i took office by every economic measure we are better off now than we were when i took office. >> how would the president be so diluted as to think that declaring his delusions to be indisputable would somehow render them truthful? they are not, not indisputable and not true. the national debt has ballooned under president obama from $10.6 trillion when he took office to now almost $18 trillion. our middle class is getting
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killed under this president. median household income in 2009 nearly $57,000 is now $54,000. the number of americans on food stamps when he took office in 2009, 32 million. it is now more than 46 million. and it has been more than 46 million for nearly three years now. the labor force participation rate back then was 65.8%. now it is down to 62.7%. how important is that fancy sounding labor force participation rate? it's the reason that our unemployment rate is now at 5.9% because job creation has driven it to that level. the unemployment rate would be about 10% if the labor force participation rate were the same as when the president took office. our middle class is simply getting shafted under this
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administration. just ask former president bill clinton. >> the president is unpopular in arkansas. yeah, the economy is coming back but nobody believes it yet because you don't feel it. remember what i said four years ag two years ago in charlotte. financial crisis take an average of ten years to get over. >> well, best strategy for the president would have been to stay out of the campaign but now he is pinning his policies to the tails of every democratic candidate, as well. those democrats can't separate their candidacies now from mr. obama's record on foreign policy, immigration, government regulation, entitlement spending, national security, honesty and transparency, you name it. i'm not sure how he could have possibly done more damage to his party's chances in this upcoming election.
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actress jennifer lawrence breaking her silence about the nude photo hacking scandal saying, quote, just because i'm a public figure and actress does not mean that i ask for this. it is not a scandal. it is a sex crime. it is a sexual violation. it is disgusting. the law needs to be changed. joining us now to talk about the legal recourse for all of the entertainers, actors, actresses who are victims of the hacking
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two of the best attorneys in the business joining us tonight, mercedes coleman, arthur idalla. your thought about jennifer lawrence. >> she is going to compare herself to a rape victim? she is not a rape victim. she took a nudy and put it on a place that is a public forum. there are a lot of security breaches. everyone knows of them. a lot of companies are subject to the security breaches. do yourself a favor and have accountability. there are federal crimes. there was one that had hacked into many of the accounts. he got ten years in prison. >> ten years in prison for hacking into a computer? >> yeah. it was multiple offenses. >> the way -- >> people in prison who committed armed robbery and don't get ten years. >> because armed robbery gets
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prosecuted in the state court and these are federal court. every time they go into your computer you are subjected to five years possible in prison. >> tell me about jennifer lawrence. >> what she is saying actually doesn't help the cause. the way the law is right now it is more broadly -- >> mercedes going after it. >> the law right now is more broadly construed. if anyone comes into your computer for anything, to get your schedule of when to till the fields or naked photos it is the same crime. anybody who goes into your computer and they are not allowed to they are going to jail. here is where the law needs to catch up to reality. what about the people we are paying to make our computers safe? what about the clouds where we are paying them for storage? >> what about accountability
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here? >> i'm not talking about the people who create the cloud. but -- it really has to be about self-accountability. >> and with all of these folks taking nude pictures of themselves or having them taken, what planet do they live on? >> when you look like me you are never taking pictures of yourself. it is not going to happen. >> i love this modesty. >> even the double breasted is better, it covers more of the belly. let's go to ebola. first the administration was talking about they can't tell us anything about the patient, patient zero because of the hippa laws. next thing his family is quarantined against their will because of the public interest here. why do we have to watch the
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government play these kinds of games? we know that it's in the public interest. what in the world are we doing with the hippa law? >> the laws were created to protect. >> i believe in that and i absolutely subscribe to it and support it and value it except when national and public interest is at stake. >> what is going to suppress your fundamental right is the fact that there is public interest at large. ebola, the way it is contracted no one fully understands. we have a nurse in spain who was the first person in the states or in another country that is not from africa where it originated from. >> the new screening procedures, some of which would be very invasive, arguably necessary but you can't stop a u.s. citizen from coming into this country. there is no legal basis for it.
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>> there is some executive order that the feds can take control when it is in the -- it is not a law but a president's executive order to preserve the welfare of society. hy hypothetically speaking if they are monitoring body temperature and it is 105 they can very much they did 200 years ago with people coming into ellis island. >> they are saying they can't. >> they can. >> they are saying that they are going to do screening in this country because it will be the most reliable but it won't keep anybody from entering. >> especially when you have someone like this who lied on the application. >> he lied. >> the honor system for your borders, ports, airports. >> we are talking to the wrong
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guy. any host in the fox universe that we should not be treading this territory it is lou dobbs. >> thank you for being with us. >> great to be here. i love it. >> she is brilliant. >> i love you. don't you want to return? >> up next seen international turmoil from the breakup of yugoslavia. former ambassador christopher hill joins us. stay with us. your customers, our financing. your aspirations, our analytics. your goals, our technology. introducing synchrony financial, bringing new meaning to the word partnership.
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dad,thank you mom for said this oftprotecting my future.you. thank you for being my hero and my dad. military families are uniquely thankful for many things, the legacy of usaa auto insurance could be one of them. if you're a current or former military member or their family, get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. our next guest chronicles more than three decades as a diplomat for the united states in his new book serving high profile roles in iraq, north korea and kosovo.
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joining us is christopher hill, dean of the university of denver's school of international studies. his new book is entitled "outpost" available tomorrow in book stores near you or at your finger tips online. good to have you with us. congratulations on the book. it's terrific. we wish you the best with it. i have to ask you as you watch what is happening in the middle east, do you see seeds of the times you were there in the early years of the obama administration 2009-'10 that would have implied what we are witnessing today? >> i think so. you know, it is a tough part of the region, but if you start with the premise that there are good guys and bad guys you might be in some trouble there. i think you have to be careful about who is a good guy there. certainly that was clear. i think it was also clear that the administration really wanted to follow up on the president's
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campaign promise to get our troops out and end the war. and as it has been pretty clear in recent monthatize is not so easy to end the war there. >> not so easy to end the war there. as you say the foolishness of choosing good and bad guys there is almost at the same level as listening to presidents rationalize the results of their foreign policy when it comes to the middle east whether that president be president obama or whether that president be george w. bush. we are now back in another conflico conflict with a terrorist organization when we haven't resolved or won the conflict with any other group whether in afghanistan or iraq. this super power of ours seems stalemated and frustrated at every turn. why is that? >> it is very tough. basically when we went into iraq
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we took a country that was run by the sunnis, all be it a pretty hideous dictator saddam hussein and flipped it to being shi'a run. history is not just what happened last tuesday in that part of the world we are talking over 1,000 years. the sunnis have never really accepted shi'a rule. we ended up with a pretty tough guy named malaki. i think we have been dealing with a very difficult situation. when we have tried to get other allies to help us against isis they have been much more worried about the shi'a than about radical sunnis like isis. >> why does the united states to much of the world appear like fools because that history as you say goes back hundreds and hundreds of years is not unfamiliar to our ambassadors and diplomats and national
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security team and certainly much of the world. why is it that we resist knowledge and comprehension when it comes to foreign policy whether republican or democrat? >> it goes way into our dna. we are a people who basically have an optimistic approach to everything and that every problem surely has a solution. some of the problems don't have any ready made solution and frankly the question is if it does have a solution are we really the ones to bring it to them. this is a tough issue and yet the world looks to the americans to lead even though it is not at all clear where we can lead this place to. >> yet we have -- we keep trying to intervene, if not lead. we try to dispose if not point of fact resolve. and i don't hear a great deal of contrition on the part of
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diplomats, national security savants, if you will, our military class talking about our flight staff officers about what has been achieved or what they have failed at. >> that is noticebly absent, the notion of contrition partly having to do with if you are a diplomat or military person you try to look forward and look at the problem and see if you can make it better. we are not lawyers. looking backward. >> god bless you for that. >> we are not looking backwards to adjud kate who caused the mess. you tend to look forward. i think in the process maybe sometimes you don't really look at the problems that you created int first place. i think a much more honest american look at what has gone on in this part of the world and not just iraq. if you live in iraq, i try to make this clear in the book, if you live in iraq you realize it
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was a good day when saddam hussein left the scene but would have been a better day if we understood what we were dealing with in shi'a and sunni. that has taken a long time to figure out. >> are you surprised at some of the criticism being levelled against this president now by in particular leon panetta and secretary of state clinton, these are people closest to him in foreign policy and carrying it out, your thoughts? >> well, i must say i have worked for a lot of different presidents. you try to give them your best job and also your loyalty. i am a little surprised when people criticize him as if they had some bleacher seat to the action. they were right there in the middle of the action. it is a little surprising when they go after someone because they were right there in the first place. >> they may not have been in
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charge but they had their hands certainly on levers. ambassador christopher hill thanks for being with us. the book is "outpost." >> oliver: tonight on war stories. tonight on "war stories." they've joined men on the battlefield, they are the animal warriors. >> they were unbelievable magnificent. >> you're alive today because kelly did what he did? >> why did fdr approve the idea for a bat bomb in world car ii and learn about the navy's use of dolphins and the cia's plan for a cat in the cold war. that's next on "war stories." ♪ if the dog is man's best friend, then these do
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