deserves to be told. i'm oliver north, good night. ♪ >> after the show, you'll get to hear from these lovely ladies. >> more ebola scares break out as ebola protests break out. cleaning proof striking over the dangers of cleaning planes. other workers warning they are not trained for beefed up screening at major u.s. airports that kick in today. all the more reason some here say forget beefing up screening, we need to ban all flights from the ebola ridden region. are they right? hi, i'm brenda buttner. this is bulls and bears. we have the bulls and bears this week. gary smith, tracy burns, jonas max, john layfield along with chuck. welcome to everybody. john, forget the screenings,

just stop those flights? >> yes. look, president obama was quick to stop flights to israel not long ago, but not liberia. i don't understand this. polio was a trillion dollar disease. it's been erat eradicated. what if they are right? what if this is the worst thing since aids? why not take the measures of stopping the flights from coming out of liberia, at least the people. other african countries have done that. >> gary will tell you why not. >> there's a number of reasons. one, i think it's inhumane not to treat the people there. you can't treat them there if you have a flight ban. who is going to want to fly into the country as an aid worker and know they can't get out? two, people are going to get out rega

regardless. the guy infected in dallas flew from monrovia to brussels, then dallas. we are going to ban all flights coming into the u.s. period? i don't think that's going to work. even as far as the screening, by the way, canada tried that in 2003 with sars. they spent 7 million on screening and didn't catch one case. >> tracy, isn't treating it at its roots? >> absolutely. treat it at its roots, contain it. you want to send people in to help? i get that. there's no need to vacation in west africa right now. you can find other places to go. they can fix this there. 150 people have come over from west africa every day. that is 150 times risk for us that we don't need to be taking right now, brenda. >> you know, jonas, there is a risk. people lie. that happened in this case. airports, they get into america, is this an

effective way of containing the epidemic? >> well, versus doing nothing, it's effective. i'm with gary on this. we have all kind of problems. the fact you have to self-report on a piece of paper, i have to declir i have been in a place with ebola? it's absurd. the japanese had a low level of flu hits because they stopped transports in and out of the country. we are more advanced. we track people. maybe we can quarantine people for 21 days before they get on a plane to the u.s. to see if symptoms develop. that's how long the incubation period is. do something with knowledge. >> back to the 14th century, if it didn't work for venice, they stopped all ships from coming in. that is long ago. chuck, bring us to the present, what do you think? >> i think if there's a middle

ground here, i think we should not have this disease in the country. everybody agrees with that. i think back to jonas' point, if you want to come to america and we won't allow people to be here, the incubation period is the key. if you want to be here, schedule to be here, go through a 21 day wait and after that come here and that would be on the country, not on us. >> they would be quarantined before they left to come here? >> yes. yes. absolutely. >> jonathan, what do you think about that? >> they can't afford that. i don't think any country in west africa can afford that and i don't think the united states wants to afford that. it's not realistic to assume that is going to happen. you can track these guys from where they come. there's no reason. this is not either/or. theo r to intheod is two to

21 days. this gentleman in dallas that passed away, he would not have been caught in the screening. it doesn't mean aid worker that is go there, if they are american citizens, they should be allowed to return. >> they still could be -- they still could have contracted ebola, though, john. >> american citizens going, you are talking a smaller margin or group of people. you can quarantine them. you are not talking millions of people, they are aid workers coming back. >> quarantine them for 21 days and bring them home. i'm not sure why we need to have this open border right now. we need to fix this and treat the american people. >> let gary b. in here. >> what airports are we talking about? are we talking all of west afri africa. let's say there was an outbreak in the united states. are we going to then, are the

other countries going to say, we are going to ban flights out of the u.s. like we did for africa? i think this is the wrong way to go. people are going to find their way into the country. they are going to fly to other airports, into canada and come here. are we going to close down the whole aviation system? it's a stupid way to go. it's going to waste money. you are going to cause economic catastrophe. treat it in africa. >> we are trying to treat it in africa and leave it there. we are not trying to treat it in dallas, which is what we are doing now. >> so you are saying, let's close down, what, all of west africa, i suppose? don't you think that would cause a lot of unrest? >> how much are you talking of closing down. yes, close down an area infected with ebola, yes. >> would you like to live in a

place, say you were in dallas and that was in effect, would you like to be in a place where they put an iron dome over it and you couldn't get into dallas. >> they have the need to nip it instan taniously. they don't. it's not at our peril because they don't have the means to do it. >> if you want to get into it, we have to deal with the fact people in this country do bizarre things with dead bodies. we have to put money in those countries if you want to treat it there versus blocking off borders. that is an old fashioned way to solve the problem. >> chuck? >> listening to this discussion makes me think about what we went through with aids. we need to get ahead of it before we have a catastrophe. if we have to shut down the airports. i understand gary's argument,

but we have to take care of our homeland first. >> gary, b., you brought up the point of sars. so much money was spent on it and it didn't stop the outbreak. >> they screened people at the airport, spent a bunch of money and didn't catch one case. you put a country in poverty and you are saying, hey, go overthrow yourselves because financial disaster. you shut down a country from people getting out or at least coming here, it creates a lot of disruption that we don't want to take on ourselves. >> how many liberians are going to get in this country if we shut down the airport? are they going to come in a canoe? >> john, it's not a question of how many. it's a question of what is the humane thing to do. >> it is! >> no, i think there are other ways than shutting down the airport. >> at the airport 21 days, they

weren't allowed to go to ebola areas. we could have a hybrid where you can fly but you have to go through extra steps to make sure you don't have it versus filling out paperwork that you don't have it, which doesn't mean anything. >> we have to protect our borders. we had this conversation before. why are we constant think police officers of the world? we have to protect our own. shutting down the airlines is the way to do it. sthak's the last word. from the ebola threat and our airport. one of our top military leaders warning how it could send a huge wave of illegals into america. the cavuto gang is on it. up here first, isis sending terror tweets. now, twitter getting death threats for shutting them down.

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now back to "bulls and bears." isis now threatening workers in the u.s. the ceo of twitter saying the islamic militants are sending them death threats for shutting down their account. gary b., should private companies be in the business of shutting down terrorists or is it the government's job? >> the government's job. who at twitter or instagram want to put their employees in harms

way. i wouldn't want harm or death on me. we talked about this a few weeks ago. don't we want them out in the open? we don't want them hiding. i want to track their messages through whatever organization we have. i'm not a fan of big government, as you know. this is a case for government to step in. if there was twitter back in world war ii and we knew about the concentration camps months, years before they actually started killing jews there, i think we would have been more effective. >> one of the issues is that government is using the accounts to get intelligence. they may not be so willing to step in. twitter has filed freedom of information act saying i'm sorry, everyone has their first amendment right. twitter is on both sides of the fence here. one hand, no, the government has no right to come in and figure out what they are doing. on the other hand, they are receiving the death threats and

they have to protect their employees. i'm with gary, they don't have the manpower to protect their people. that is where this becomes a governmental issue. >> jonas, what do you think? we don't know how far isis is going to go. >> i would like to think the government can use all this information on the internet and track and go after people. i also think keeping it off the internet is not going to work well. google removed the nude pictures of celebrities. they are going to do that because it's an outrage, but they are not going to stop the twitter chats from all the terrorists. i don't know. i don't want to put the burden of danger on these poor billionaire ceos of these companies, however, i think it's the government's job to put themselves in the line of fire. >> john? >> i agree with gary b. they made the point a month ago on this show, if you had this in world war ii, you would see

what's going on in the concentration camps. the thing is when you show a beheading or death. that is too gruesome. you are showing a crime scene with no business. the blurred out pictures exposed how bad they are. this is a recruiting tool. the government said they use this to spot and find these guys and kill them. that's a reason they leave them up longer than they would like to. that part, i'm in favor of. >> chalk? >> there's a couple points i want to make. there's a difference between u.s. citizens trying to join these groups and others outside the country. we have rights under the constitution and free speech. putting the beheadings and those things, there's no room for that. the second point i want to make is you are already being tracked. as soon as you click on the internet, i put a cookie on your computer and we watch everything you do. >> that's you? you are the one? >> we know what tv ads to give

you. do you know who john is watching on the internet? we want to know what to say. we want to sell him cowboy boots and gary b. is trying to get his house sold. let's track them and give them a present in their lap and make it a bomb. >> if you can do it how come the government is not? if it is as simple as you say, why have not not gotten more of a handle on it. this is where the fine line comes in. they are recruiting by the second, it feels like. they are out there and keep doing this. if it's that simple, we should be able to take care of this faster than we are. scary business. >> thanks, guys. cashing in. just over an hour from now, eric, what do you have coming up? >> the focus is on ebola and the united states. the president is trying to pit it back to the economy. it may be a mistake as americans look at their wallets. america is a bigger threat

to world peace than isis. the cashing in crew is all over that. a lot more at 11:30. >> thanks. we'll be watching for sure. up here first, if you don't pay to join them, get ready to be publicly shamed by them. the union shakedown that may have you shaking your head.

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critics slamming it as union intimidation. a uaw chapter in kansas calling auto workers who opted out of the union scabs and posted their names and work locations on the website. you call it mob tactics? >> they are disgusting for doing it. if nothing else, they are hurting their cause. it's nothing but coercive behavior these days. this is icing on the cake. >> chuck, you were a union worker, what do you think? >> i like to see the unions get into the 21st century. we used to put the scabs up on a big board on highway 31. it's no different than paying taxes. we all drive on the roads and pay taxes. they want the benefits of the union, negotiating the contracts

but not pay the wages. that's not right and we know it. >> john, do you agree? >> i lived in tyler, texas for 20 years, so i have a fondness for chuck. i don't agree on unions. they are in a desperation mode right now. this is part of it. 40% of private union down to a single digit right now. they are on the verge of going extinct. i think it's a privacy concern. >> jonas? >> chuck is still mad at the scabs from 20 years ago. there's no other way to do it. when you are in an opec-like organization trying to have an artificial rate whether oil or labor, you have to break thumbs to keep people in line or it doesn't work, it falls apart. that's why the scab list is up there, to get their lunch bag stolen or whatever they are going to do, beat them up. that's not going to keep it working or falls apart.

that's why it exists. >> gary b., these workers have the right to do this because they are in a right to work state. what do you think about this thing? >> i think it's disgusting. i'm with tracy on this. i understand the why they do it, as jonas pointed out. the question is should they be able to do it. it's not like paying taxes. if you don't pay your taxes, no one hangs a banner on your house. it's for the government to deal with, not your fellow neighbors out there. the people that elect in a right to work state, we know why the names were posted there. it's a lot more than stealing their lunch out of the cafeteria. the workers have been threatened, harassed. we know why they are doing it. it is horrible. >> the irs, when not paying taxes. they let the public know it's to shame you. >> just because you are wearing a tie, you get ten seconds to

finish up. >> when i talk about putting the names up, i thought it was great. it was before the internet. we would never want harm to come to anybody. we just want to all get along. >> ah, we doe and we all do on this show. thanks guys. thank you chuck, for joining us. having a cow over the dow? after this roller coaster week, get the name calling everyone down. listen up when it comes to the size of a diamond for your girl, digger isn't always better.

predictions. gary g.? >> amazon is opening its first bricks and mortar store in new york. it will not be the last. the stock is up 30% in a year. >> bull or bear. >> good for the company, bad for the stock. >> incest in weakness bank of the ozarks. up 30% in six months. >> bull or bear. >> a policy against investing in anything with ozarks in the name. >> stop. >> a topsy turvy market. mcdonalds diners up. >> a skinny guy talking mcdonalds. what do you think? >> i do not like it right now. >> tracy? >> the bigger engagement ring, the bigger the chance for divorce. skip the diamond put yourself and your money in a house.

>> i buy my own rings. >> i feel ya. >> everybody needs a practice marriage. >> okay. thanks so much for joining uls. cavuto on business coming upright now. ebola? our southern border? are they connected? one of our top military leaders say think again. i'm in for neil cavuto. head of the southern command sounding the alarm on a potentially alarming situation. >> if oboe la breaks out in haiti or central america, it is in terms of mass migration of central americans into the united states. so, these populations will move to either run away from ebola or, if they have been or