>> tonight on cavuto a wall street selloff over ebola fears. should you be holding out or is a bigger drop on the way? isis has a new magazine issue out. the group's new target is on the front of it. mitt not it for 2016. but don't be so sure. neil sat down with mrs. romney on this very program. and it all starts right now. good to be with you on cavuto i'm connell we'll also talk about that stock selloff in a minute, but first as a second dallas hospital worker is infected are we doing enough in this country to stop ebola. we're hearing from dallas nurses

that they were learning ebola protocol on the fly. the nurses union put a statement out, there was no advanced preparedness on what to do with the patient. there was no protocol. there was no system. to the former surgeon general. he joins us right at the top of the show. it's tough to know where to begin. these hospitals. you feel for the nurses when they say things like that that they weren't prepared. were they? >> well, apparently they weren't. it's near and dear to my heart. i'm a former registered nurse myself. the nurses are often the bay romter -- they place the nurses at risk that needs to be remedied right away to protect them so they can protect us. >> the second patient has been transferred to emory which is one of the facilities that has been set up to treat these infectious diseases. is that one of the things we're

doing wrong, treating these patients in the local hospitals? >> well, (?) first little history back after 9/11 when i was surgeon general in the bush administration, we spent a lot of time and money educating hospitals and first responders and building infrastructure to prepare for all hazards, which includes bioagents like ebola. and we left it to the hospitals and the regulatory agents and the emergency medical systems to stay at the level of competence that we had advised and they were being regulated by their own organizations. this is really a serious gap, if what the nurses allege is true that they were unprepared. the equipment wasn't appropriate and it really placed them at high risk and that needs to be remedied right away. >> we're not talking to the surgeon general right now. the, no, ma'am, any has been held off for political reasons in washington. is that hurting this effort that the cdc has become the face of it that there's no surgeon

general to head up the effort? (?) >> well, i think the surgeon general has a unique position in the history of our nation. it's a trusted doctor of the world. we all remember surgeon general coupe who not only spoke to the nation, but the whole world on health issues. so the absence of the surgeon general i think does create a void. people are talking about we need a ebola czar. which would be a surgeon general they would be able to speak to the public on all these issues. we need a qualified surgeon general. we need somebody who earns the right to be called it and merits the rank of admiral or second admiral. and it just can't be anybody. any doctor cannot be the surgeon general. >> tom frieden has become the de facto spokesperson for this. he was on fox news last night. he said he doesn't think there

will be a large outbreak of ebola. do you agree with that? what does it mean, what does large outbreak mean to you? >> first and foremost, he's correct if the hospitals, health providers, and the public is aware that they follow the guidelines, protocols, policies and procedures we put out there over the last decade. that it should be curtailed. when we have infractions as has been alleged in texas, then that breaks this sense of preparedness that we all thought we had when people are not adhering on the guidelines. so i'm concerned. >> what would large look like? >> well, large would be something like we're seeing in west africa right now where it just keeps escalating. to me in the united states need a dozen would be large. what i'm saying, heading in that direction, that that's large. if you have a few dozen people scattered over a few million

that's pretty significant when you think about all the time and effort to get to all those contacts. >> we appreciate it for you coming on. is there not enough money to find a cure? crowd funding website crowd rise hoping to raise 100,000 dollars in order to fight ebola saying when it comes to this virus it's a race to find the cure. they were part of the group that created the experimental drug zmapp. first thing when i thought about when reading your efforts 100,000 doesn't sound much. in terms of fund-raising and ten millions this and that, what can you do with money like that? >> well, we can buy an instrument. we can at least start with that. there's an instrument we need called an fplt. it purifies every sample that comes in. it's the first step to our analysis.

>> describe how you're going about it the crowd funding? >> so let me say i've enjoyed really strong support from the nih for 12 years because they thought ebola virus would break out one day. they wanted that knowledge in place before it did. right now we're at war. we need to do in weeks than months. we can't put more hours in the day. >> you have to go back to get the instruments you need? >> the nih budget is simply too small. they can't spend all their money on exotic viruses. your average viewer is much more likely to get other diseases and they have to cover other diseases. >> should we just ramp up the funding? they say it's not enough to throw money at it?." >> certainly we're trying to get instrumentation in the lab fast

and one that crowd funding allows people to do it allows the public to put their dollars into what as they think important. >> all right. so they could do this 100,000 dollars you could get this instrument and maybe do some good with it. we'll continue to follow this and keep people updated on it. thank you. another way people are trying to help. we'll talk about the stock market. we've been talking about all day. we've seen this broad-based selloff. the fox biz all stars are all over it. sabrina. we'll start with you. i'm sure there's other factors at play, but ebola and the fear of ebola how big is that in your view. >> wall street training stocks, ebola is not the first thing they're talking about. it's just not. it could be a catalyst. but it's not a black swan event. anybody saying that is dead wrong. >> so what are they worried most

about? >> they're saying the market has been on a bit of a speculative bender. when you talk about a gopro, for example, the camera that sits on your head, being valued like a u.s. steel or peabody energy. wait a second. there was -- tiny bubbles forming in a bunch of these sectors. >> oil prices are down. you have weak economic data. you have all the making for a big correction. we've been calling for one for a while now. everyone has been saying we've been on this bull -- correction is coming. fuel to the fire to get. and liz is right, it's not a black swan event because we know about it so we can handle it, but at the same time people can handle the correction that we've all been talking about. people need to take a deep breath. the market will come back, but it will correct first. >> probably good advice in general. sabrina, what are your thoughts?

>> there's both investment opportunities in places we need to be concerned about. there are certain pharmaceutical companies that is putting out the potential vaccine. there's jsk. these are potential opportunities for traders, but at the same time there's a lot of uncertainty we've seen since mid-september. global airline stocks are down 10 percent. hotel index down 11 percent. there's some volatility i think there is reason to be concerned approximate about certain areas of the market. >> we haven't seen a 10 percent correction in 700 trading days. on average you see three downdrafts to 5 percent or more. every year since 1938 we haven't had that. we can't get hysterical saying ebola is a black swan event. >> like lizzie said in a long time, word of question on these ebola stocks they're trades at best. >> protective suits. >> people aren't going to run

out and put their life savings in ebola. >> you cannot torture money -- when they've got 3m or kimberly-clark in that space. they're very thinly traded poor cash flow. >> any time there's something like this people get a little crazy, but a lot of hedge fund selling. thank you more from the panel as we continue. the white house has been quiet on executive actions maybe a little too quiet. next why katy says this period before we hit the midterms it's the calm before the storm.

connell: so is this the calm before the storm? sounds like a funny

question to ask with everything going on. obama pushing big things like immigration. katy said expect a hurricane of events after election day. we get so caught up in the present, but there's some big events to wait for. and i guess that was pretty big news that the new attorney general would be introduced after the election. >> it's going to be a very busy post 2014 midterm election and it's not going to be the democrats cleaning up the mess they've left behind after they buy voters at the polls. the obama administration has done a ton of work in pushing things that are controversial off until after the election. naming the attorney general is most recent news. obama is not planning on naming one until after -- the people he will name is controversial. and president obama doesn't want to put democrats in a tough spot for that vote.

the epa emissions, the comment section has been extended for 25 days. the epa doesn't want more comments on that issue they want to push it back so that democrats aren't asked about it on the campaign trail so they're not punished on the campaign trail. another huge one is obamacare. let's not forget the rate dleases people saw on october 1st last year the administration has now moved the open enrollment period back to november 13 after the midterm elections, of course, because obamacare is already unpopular when people are feeling their premiums spike and double it's a lot different at the polls. >> i would even throw one more after talking to the surgeon general that the republicans have been holding that nominee for political reasons. you start to think where is the surgeon general. we don't have one. now, will the outcomes of the election affect

after them? we know that congress will still be seated whether it's the session for the democrats in terms of their leadership if they can hang onto the senate. most people think the republicans will take it. what effect will the outcomes of these elections have on these issues. >> on the surgeon general issue i don't think it's fair to blame republicans. because harry reid gave permission to push through any nominee that they wanted to. the nominee president obama put up is controversial and democrats don't want to take up that vote. in terms of what's going to happen on these issues, president obama isn't waiting to do this until the midterms are over. he's waiting to do this because it's politically unpopular. he's going to allow the epa to go forward with the regulations he'll do whatever he wants when it comes to getting his agenda through over the next two years.

>> you can push through a lot -- once the president then is into the final years of his presidency. katy, good to see you. who is the next target of isis? well, they just told us and we'll tell you next.

>> so we now know the next target of isis. the latest issue of an isis magazine called debeak promotes an attack of the catholic church and its followers. charles says these threats are real. they're getting worse. we've known the fact that these groups have these magazines. you take it seriously when you see something like this going after the church on the cover of the magazine? >> yeah. these guys are telling us exactly what they intend and there have been a whole series of these declarations when they're talking about attacking the catholic church or police in the united states. and they mean absolutely for this to inspire to do exactly what they're asking for. connell: so we look at how they're going to do it, and the threat is about a lone wolf attack whether it's when we have

the fbi bulletins about police officers and public officials even media figures earlier this week or it's this going after the catholic church. are we prepared for a lone wolf attack which has always been the scariest type of attack. >> it's hard to start with because all our methodology is by getting networks. when you're talking about a guy acting on his own, that means there's nothing for us to deect. are we ready to detect this? no. >> you'd -- human intelligence would be the key to something like this to some extent and whether it's infiltrating isis he overseas or someone inspired by the internet here. human intelligence. >> human intelligence is really the game. and our human intelligence is not nearly adequate.

it's not adequate on the ground abroad it's not adequate here at home. >> you mentioned the magazine. syria is an old armageddon story where muslims would clash there and that's where the name comes from. what about using magazines like this and even online memphis like twitter and facebook. these guys do a pretty good job recruiting. >> they're doing a very good job and they're utilizing this technology to revolutionize the way they recruit people. they are reaching out over the internet and recruiting people all around the world. there's nothing to you for you to detect. (?) >> i mean, we're obviously mindful to some extent especially with with american citizens there is civil liberties and what have you, if someone -- or the al-qaeda magazine or they're going on twitter accounts of these people and they're replying to

tweets and they're commenting on facebook posts to what extent do we need to be monitoring those people. we are very closely, but you have a fine line i'm sure there in terms of what you can do when people are acting out in the open like that. >> our clear civil liberties are concerns that we have to address. the biggest issue is taking it seriously and reacting to the information when you had it. so major hasan was an example of exactly what we were worried about. and we knew he was in contact with people via the interpret and we did nothing to disrupt that in advance. >> it just takes one. one time you slip up and that's what happens at fort hood. thank you for coming on. coming up, the hot new halloween costume that has everybody screaming. you'll find out why next.

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independents john stossel he's here dressed up as one of our founding fathers. hope to see you at 9:00 p.m. and midnight right here on fbn. >> we're doing our biz blitz earlier than usual. the second hospital worker with ebola confirmed as amber vinson took a flight before testing pop. she was on a flight. this virus is not just staying in texas maybe and we're back with our fox biz all stars. tracy, would you be afraid of flying in an environment like this. >> so i'm not afraid to fly. i'm flying this week. i think this goes to there's no protocol. no one knows what to do so instead we insight panic. let's get everybody who was in contact with her. call the cdc. it's making it worse. there's no rules or regulations on how to handle this. >> and they said today

she shouldn't have gotten on the flight. she knew she was one of the people that had contact. she still got on the flight. so it does endangerer some of these people we don't know to what extent, but does it make you nervous. >> it makes me a little nervous. i don't feel like there's any real leadership in washington overseeing and things saying this is what we have to do to make sure the american people are safe. the reality is we live in a very small world these days. i'm flying to california on friday. we can't stop this kind of environment we live in. we need to have some leadership that is directing what we need to do to make sure we prevent the spread of this. >> liz. >> people who may have ebola they can take a tylenol to mask their fever. when well ebola can live outside the body for up to three hours. it can live on doorknobs and other things. here's the debate: the world health organization stopped travel into toornt into

canada, when that outbreak started in 2003. it's still unclear why we don't have a flight restriction from those infected nations. >> and for somebody who knew they were exposed to the patient our was probably on that list of people exposed on that patient. they're asking people to take it upon themselves. (?) >> i think urgency god bless humanity. you cannot allow them to be honest in a situation like this. you're nervous. you want to get home. >> whether it's this woman or someone who is coming from west africa. >> sabrina is right. we need better regulation on this. block the borders. >> this is why we have a culture of alarm which makes us scared of everything from sugar to fat to chemicals. when there's a real threat, people don't know if this is hysterics or something to panic about. we need some order.

we want people to take it very, very seriously. >> if there were clear rules and someone was clearly in charge and this is what you're allowed to do if you're exposed this is what you do. >> we don't want it to spread. there has to be more restrictions in place. >> i think you are right. the second issue on the docket tonight halloween costumes and once that are actually making people sick. there's apparently a lot of outrage on the internet as many people planning to dress up in ebola hazmat suit costumes. i don't know if this is in your plans or not. but the outrage, people being too sensitive what do you make of this that this is apparent thing for this halloween. >> i think halloween is a little bit of the shock factor. that's part of it. we have sexy everything. sexy snow whites. i find it disturbing. but there's always something. we forget. we're going to see lots

of pirates this year. pirates are once in the past and even today are a scary idea. people will have fun with this, but i'm not too concerned about it. >> it would be hypocrite to do that. you could joke about anything you don't take the issue seerlsz, but still it's kind of weird. in your neighborhood someone coming up in a hazmat suit to trick treat at your house. >> i was millie veanl one afternoon. >> you have the wrong panel. we have skeletons in the closet. >> but your point is taken (?) >> what if someone comes to your front door, are you going to give them candy? i don't like it. >> you would do the same if i was millie vanilla. >> it's insensitive. for a child it's weird. it's very dark and it's not a good idea to put

in that child's head. >> unless, of course, it glows and then you're safe at night. >> f we can sit here and do segments on all night look at this kid as a cigarette. >> i'd rather put on that jones rivers. we have a joan rivers costume. >> you can be joan rivers for halloween. that wouldn't be inappropriate. you would be horning her. >> you think? >> you're paying attribute. i don't think i have an opinion. i formed that opinion right now. i didn't give a lot of thought to it, but that's what i've come up with. is mitt in or out? you hear about this all the time and the politics. here is from ann romneyba herself next.

connell: we have neil's interview with ann romney in

just a few for you. but did ann just say a 2016 run not happening not only mitt and i are done, but the kids are done. they say the roims might not be as done as you might think. a nice chance for us to talk some 2016 policies. good to see you. >> we don't know if i'll run. may influence his thinking. and another factor will be does the big fish in the pond jeb bush run? because romney and bush's support will overlap. i know romney knows he should keep the door slightly open. he doesn't want to get his family too nervous too early. >> he may very well mean what he's saying. he may change his mind. they can say i'm not running, but sometimes

circumstances change. >> not only circumstances, but there's an enormous infrastructure that builds around a presidential candidate hundreds of people were hoping it was an administration. they were hoping it was the ticket to a great position. they still stay in touch with each other. all of them, of course, will tell romney run run run because that's the best ticket not only for the country, but for their futures. >> of course, unless they're working for somebody else. you mentioned jeb bush is that the factor that will most determine whether romney gets in, who is in the field? >> if jeb bush doesn't run the field will still have lots of very powerful contenders, but no one with 100 percent name identification as jeb bush. mitt romney is the only person with the possibility of chris christie. >> and and he's got the business crowd. >> enormous fund-raising ability. his own fortune if he

would want to invest it. >> a lot of the other candidates and everyone knows who they are whether it's rubio or anybody else and then we see paul ryan. certainly rand paul, ted cruz those are people from different parts of the party. >> and scott walker from wisconsin. he's going to be a player. there are lots of contenders, but mitt romney already went through the national turning process twice. so he is -- he has experienced everything you can throw at a candidate. so a lot of people would say, well, maybe he's yesterday's news. on the other hand he's battle tested. >> you could do both political ads right away. >> i can argue it flat and round. >> how does he argue it? romney, come on, we've seen this movie. what does he say to that. >> ronald reagan won on his third try for president.

nixon kept get res rec ted. there's lots of tradition in america -- al gore who won the popular vote for president had run before (?) so, again, hillary clinton is very formidable and there are a lot of republicans who don't want do take a chance on a lesser known figure. i think that's exaggerated, but a lot of people like brand loyalty. they want the generic. >> think romney can beat hillary clinton. >> if the economy gets bad enough, if the obama administration hurts the democrats enough, no matter how hillary tries to separate herself from obama, some of the stain will stay on her. (?) >> short memories the whole republican party will be revamped. >> battleships turn slowly. you may like to think they turn faster, but they turn slowly.

>> here we are talking about -- it's kind of funny, though. >> it would be weird to have another bush clinton race because america is supposed to the land of opportunity. it sounds like a dynasty to me. >> thanks for coming in. ann romney may not be campaigning for a third run, but she's campaigning for something that could be more important. details coming up next. you're driving along,

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neurological disease in boston and the center is focusing on treatments for alzheimer's as well as multiple scheursz and neil recently sadth sat down with the former first lady finding out about this new center that bears her name. >> full disclosure going into this interview i'm on the advisor board for the ann romney center because i like and aspire to the causes she's addressing. (?) as ann and i discovered this is a disease in neurological ailments are those that target democrats and republicans alike. they don't care about your social status, your wealth, whether you're in the media or being interviewed with the media. with that let me begin with ann romney and welcome. >> thank you. neil: this is a little bit different. it's not just an ms

center. it's something bigger. explain. >> okay. very excited about it. because this is going to be a different approach. we are going to be studying not just ms, but alzheimer's, als, parkinson's, so anything related to the brain, we're putting a big, a big umbrella around those disorders, putting it under one roof. it will be the ann romney neurological center, so we're excited about it. and what we hope will happen is a global sort of collision of collaboration that we're going to attempt to make with other researchers across this country and across the world that are studying these diseases. neil: you know, what i've discovered and you and i have chatted before, a lot of these various research centers, they protect their research very

well. not to disparage them, but how are you going to encourage this, i don't know, charity camaraderie. >> well, it's going to happen with, we'll hold conferences. i think generally people in different fields they hold those anyway. they hold scientific forums and they exchange papers. that already goes on, but the fact that we're broadening this to a much broader group is going to change that dynamic. what i want to be is a catalyst. i want to explode this research because we're on the cusp of so many breakthroughs. you know, it's so frustrating to look at aging parents that might have alzheimer's and say there's nothing we can do for them. that's about to change. neil: and there is this neurological link that people don't recognize. there's no cure for pretty much any of these, but there are treatments that can stave off their

progression. >> there's treatments for ms. there's no treatment at this point for alzheimer's or als and there's some for parkinson's, but limited. and brain tumors it's spotty and depending on the brain tumor. it's a whole science of the brain. researchers under one roof collaborating finding studies when you interview the doctor you'll find out how they've already made some significant links in some of these research projects they're already doing. for me, again, i want to be a catalyst. i want to make a breakthrough. i want to accelerate the research. neil: how attempted were you -- because you mentioned treatments for ms. no cures for ms. they can say, well, ann romney given her experience with ms should focus on just that. >> well, i say it's broader than that and studying alzheimer's is going to help study ms.

studying parkinson's is going to make breakthroughs in others. so we have to start linking some of these molecules in the brain and start studying them not just in one, but as a broad spectrum. neil: i was noticing on the board for this that -- does your husband know he's on that board? >> i'm going to let him know. neil: and congressman, joseph kennedy the third so you got a balanced board going on. meredith, so was this by design. did people say it's a republican board it's a democrat board. it's just a human being -- >> it's a human being board with people that care about other human beings that care about trying to make a difference and trying to bring some attention, bring some focus. all of us trying to accelerate whatever we can do to make this, you

know, something that we can tackle and try to figure out. neil: this is a hospital in boston. now, that is politically speaking not exactly a conservative bast onso i don't mean this to be impolite, but is the romney name popular international could that hurt you there? >> you know, the good news and the bad news about disease is it's not partisan. (?) you know, it just isn't. and so i think it will not at all because people recognize that disease hits us all and that we need to be compassionate and caring for all those suffering from this. and it's so devastating to watch a family come down with one of these disorders as i know having watch my husband just about, this is probably the toughest thing in his life is watching me suffer. neil: when you were first diagnosed, he stopped

everything. all over the world to try to get you the best care. >> it doesn't just affect the persons, it affects the families. and so many people are affected by ms, alzheimer's, als, and brain tumors, parkinson's. this is everybody. everybody out there knows somebody that has one of those disorders. neil: i'm surprised to see the marriage break ups and lationships. it destroys them. >> it's tough. you know, it seems odd to me because it brought us closer, but for others, it doesn't. it's too much of a strain. so, you know, we want to make a difference. >> we'll have more of neil's interview with ann romney after this.

>> all right. welcome back. neil's interview with ann romney continues now. and here there are with dr. howard winer who is ann's personal physician and is codirector at her center.

>> the exciting thing about the center is that we're working on five diseases. multiple sclerosis, alzheimer's disease, als, parkinson's disease and brain tumors. and there's not a lot of centers like that. we kind of put together a collision of collaboration if you will looking at these different diseases. >> now, that collision or collaboration means everyone playing their part. right? and sharing that information. as i discussed with ann sometimes these are separately done. how do you get past that? >> i think the collision and collaboration occurs on two levels. one, the people within the center, that you break down the silos people on alzheimer's working on ms people on ms working on als and then reaching out to other centers, in california, in chicago, overseas and we're doing that. i think when people realize that we're trying to cure these diseases they'll participate. neil: and we were talking about

the environment starting something like this. the recovery is still what it is. so imagine the prospect for charitable contributions still what it is not great. enter a new and very big one that's going to be looking for the same kind of financial support. are you worried? >> i'm not worried. i know people are very charitable and i know a lot of people care about these diseases. and i think people of my age are all worried that we'll end up with alzheimer's as well and if we know that we are getting close to making some breakthroughs on alzheimer's i think a lot of people will be more interested in participating and trying to unlock some of these mysteries. neil: that's one of the things that gets the most attention the focus of alzheimer's. is that going to be your reminder to the world, we might be on the cusp of something that might not be a cure, but will

be a treatment or will stave off full-blown alzheimer's in patients that might not already realize. >> we are on a cusp in fact we're heading up one of our doctors is heading up a large trial to try and treat people so they don't get alzheimer's. we have a nasal vaccine that we want to develop and that we have good results on animals so we are on a cusp. we have things we can do. we can try. neil: all that is expensive. just ms treatments alone i think it's close to $25,000 a year. how do you address in a had that? and with obamacare, when they're -- politics not notwithstanding here. how do you deal with that? >> we don't worry how much it costs. the amount of cost to take care of someone who has alzheimer's is enormous, but what we want to do is find a treatment. we want to find a cure. once we have that, the

costs will be minimal. neil: i think we discovered that pitch certainly when you talk to insurance companies all they see is the cost at front. they don't see the long-term savings or do they? >> i hope they do and i hope they recognize that prevention, i think more and more medicine is going to prevention and to keep ourselves in a health state. diet, neurgs, all those things. neil: that healthy lifestyle again. >> it's true. and early detection again with all disease, whether it's cancer or alzheimer's, now, his research is finding that in the brain, if they can break that down and prevent someone from even having the alzheimer's, but you know the devastating affects of alzheimer's how exciting would that be. neil: a lot of people don't know

they have the markers to identify it early. >> you need to identify it early. the best treatment is the treatment given early. and ms in alzheimer's, als, parkinson's disease, brain tumors, the earlier we can identify it the easier it will be to treat. this is, again, collision or collaboration if you will to find things that are early. the other thing we want and i think what's so unique about the ann romney center for neurological diseases is that we want more shots on goal. what do, i mean, by that? i mean, we want treatments. a shot on goal is trying a new treatment. and somebody who has the idea and if it works then we have a new treatment. that's what's going to be different about what we'll do. neil: i've always stated and i think ann you and i have always discussed in the past that it's understated. i suspect you're the

expert that it's a lot more than that. with all these other conditions, and i know the 50 million figure comes up, do you suspect it could be dramatically higher just people who have not been diagnosed. >> no question and once we have better mechanisms to identify it we'll find more and more people. neil: meanwhile, this board and everyone who sits on it myself included it's really like a dysfunctional family. right? are you okay with that? any food throwing? i don't know. >> all you have to do as a doctor, all you have to do is see people who have these illnesses see their families and then the dysfunction goes away because you need to help them. >> bottom line we're all human beings. >> that isn't truth. it's wonderful we have people like this. what i want to do is just get behind that wagon and push it harder. and neil you'll have to join on that wagon. >> as long as you stop

talking about this health life stuff. doctor, i want to thank you. and i want to thank you. it's a great cause because it transcends everything it's about human beings. >> we're learning more about the blake down in protocol where one man and now multiple hospital works are infected with ebola the cdc decided to be fashionably late to the party. while the nurses were scrambling to keep themselves from dying the cdc took their sweet time getting there. when the government did show up the gowns were piled to the ceiling. and a sweaty man with diary kept in a crowded room while other patients sat and watched. we're not surprised by the government break down there has to be a better plan than down right failure if any one