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great having you to, we're here every night for you 6 p.m., if you can't see the show, dvr it, president obama coming up next. i can not imagine a better guy to walk through it than lou dobbs. >> good evening, congressional critics blasting president obama for playing politics with america's public health. and giving no logical rational reason for not restricting travel from countries stricken by ebola. that despite the fact that his cdc director dr. freed an today admited on a hearing on capitol hill more of our health care workers could become infected with ebola. >> we hope no more will, but we3 know it is a possibility, since two individuals did become infected, others may. lou: obama administration is not budgeing on the issue of a
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travel ban, despite the obvious public dangers. despite growing number f democrats who now joined in call for a ban. for now, president seems to be focused on political optics, canceling a planned trip for a second straight day to deal with the outbreak to consult with lawmakers and public health officials. republicans however are system call that -- skeptical that president obama and his administration are doing >> people are scared, we need all hands on deck, we need a e.rategy, we need to protect the first and foremost. it is not a drill, people's lives are at stake, and skpopbs sresponses has been unsean unac. lou: president's critics
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calling for accountability at cdc, saying it should begin with dr. tom freedan's firing. >> have you seen the doctor take responsibility for the cdc not per foxing to expectations they have been focused on this situation since march. >> we take it up with chairman of house foreign affairs committee congressman ed royce, saying thaing that addinistratis to stop granting visa's in ebooa stricken country, and president obama wants to send more of our troops into the hot zone, issueing an executive order to since the national guard to west west africa, we look at logic or ill logic behind that decision. >> and another day of idle swings on the -- wild swings on the stock market.
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what is more at play here, ebola fears, slowing economic growth in deflation? or after overdue market correction. but we begin in dallas, hospital officials are being generous with their apologies but american people are in no mood for forgiveness. our fox news correspondent is in dallas with our report. >> reporter: under prepared and under fire, dallas hospital that botched treatment of first ebola fatality to u.s. admitted failure. >> we made mistakes, we did not correctly diagnose s those symptoms of these of ebola we're sorry. >> reporter: ttis set the chain of evens into motion, with many staff sidelineed, authorities will move nurse nina phammfrom the hospital to a biocontainment
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union, for a third day in a row, nurses wave a red flag. >> texas is an example of what we have to fix. >> >> reporter: new questions swirl over yesterday's movement of nurse amber vincent. because of this man seen here in close proximity, without a haz-mat suit, he is the coordinator and on the ramp to ensure protect, he followed all protocols, other communities are taking precautions, outside of cleveland, the akron school district closed its doors until next week after learning a parent had contract with her. >> this is a precaution that we're doing to let this all settle down, let additional information get out. >> reporter: a new screening process began at newark, atlanta, chicago, and washington's dulles airport, ensureing traaeeers from west
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africa are cleared from ebola before entering the u.s. frontier airlines is reaching us on all passengers from 5 flights that -- onnplane from cleveland to dallas, that plane is ou outt of service, they have changedd3 air filters and undergoing a fourth cleaning. lou. >> we have breaking news, fox news is confirming just moments ago that immigration and customs enforcement agency, i.c.e. has started screening and isolates west africans who have illegally crossed border over past month, and you an named i.c.e. official tells fox that 11 individuals from ebola-stricken countrys have been depaneed and they have been placed since into medical housing until the 21 day period passes. the quarantine period. >> turning to house energy and
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commerce committee hearing on the white house response to ebola, our first guest asked dr. tom about possibility of the ebola virus mutating. >> what we've seen is very little change in the virus, we don't think it is spreadiig by any different way. we confident that this is not airborne. lou: congresswoman rene elmers, serves as a registered nurse for more than 21 years, and a member of house committee. your confidence now in cdc director? after hearing his testimony after hearing his anssers to your questions? >> i have less confidence than i had never the subcommittee hearing, as you heard, the doctor contradicted himself over and over with the situation, i think that why we have to act, and protect every american, i am calling for and have been
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calling for restrict on travel from any of those countries from west africa. africa. >> to be clear, the doctorrsaid that reason that administration will not put a ban on travel from those country, because it would make, effectively, more difficult to fight ebola in africa. nigeria has done that, which is the reason that their country credits the reason for thereing be being no ebola in nigeria. >> we have to make sure they are not traveling here, or experience a period of 21 days isolation before they come here, then we would not be able to track those, if we put restricts in place, that makes no sense, i don'tn 't those -- i don't want
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those potential individuals coming here. i think we need to make sure that they are not coming here. >> is the obama administration, are they just making political statements rather than medical judgments in refusing to put travel restricts? >> i cannot know why the president has not led on this issue, this is a simple issue, congress is ready to work with hii, and we put forward 9 points we believe put in place. will help in this situation, now is the time for president obama to use that pen and that phone, and reach out, and put the travel restricts in place. >> he has used that pen, and ordered more troops, national guard, into west africa. your thoughts? whether it is appropriate with
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our military personnel. >> i have 120 who will come from fort bragg, to africa, as well. to hell in efforts, they will put in place, medical infrastructure that is needed. there is little there right now to help. so a though i believe we should be helping we need to make shower our military are protected, and it is my understanding o this point they will not be in contact with any of the patients. however, that simply is not protecting the americans who are here, all it will take is one more individual, to come in contact with someone with this terrible disease, and it is going to affect all of us,,you see the react of the american people on this issue, we need to be careful, more safety, is what we need to do. lou: two nurses infected, the doctor said we'll stop it in its
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track. that everyone hospital in country is equiped to deal with ebola. it turns out he was more than mistaken he was flat wrong, and two nurses, now are paying a high price. your thoughts? >> well, right, and that was part of my questioning, also. with the doctor who was there and by telecom, i wanted to know, at what point about these particular nurses come in contact with mr. du duncan. i thought if it was in emergency room where things you knowish of knowish initial steps were taken that is one thing but it was after the patient was admitted toed medical icu, that is of concern, i am sure they were following the protocols put in place, this very concerning to me, and part@ of my questions to what we're
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dealing with. >> quickly to live pictures, at texas health presbyterian, you see a number of vehicles awaiting the first nurse, nina pham, transported now from presbyterian to the nih quarantine unit in beth esda, maryland. your thoughts about what we're doing now, what we can do for those nurses who are on the frontline, first line, with this disease, and caring for patients? >> well, that is the question, we have to make sure that all of the education, all of the guidelines, all of the protocols are in place, for every health care worker that come into contact with anyone that could be a potential victim of ebola.
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we have to make sure that the education is in place, training is -- >> let me ask you this, in its straight forward, we've been oo a global war on terrorists since september 11, 2001, facing a prospect we're told from then until now of nuclear, biological and chemical terrorist actions, yet it clear that there is no system of communications 22 cdc, to all of the hospitals, and that if another incident it taken place, not ebola but a form of biolongal outbreak, our hospitals are not prepared for it. and that has to be disturbing to all americans, and i would hope to congress, and to this president, we have not done enough in time that we had to prepare for outbreaks? >> what, i say to, that our protocols are in place, but that they are unused they are --
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>> >> can i say, i -- this business about protocol, let me say this is a simple citizen, i don't care about protocol, i want know our people our nurses, are protected and we're defending this country, and our communities with best potential efforts, i don't get hat sense do you? >> actually, at-this-point, i do not. and the thing is to my point, plot cols are in -- protocols not been a biological situation to now, many get rusty, it is just one of those things, but now we see, the need for it we have to act, there again we have to start somewhere it has to start with travel restrictions then come together and work this out, so that every american can feel safe. >> congresswoman rene elmers, thank you. >> thank you.
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>> u.s. military's newly named operation inherent resolve having some progress in pushing back islamic state from syrian @%rder town of kobani, sources telling fox news that kurdish units in the city have retaken several neighborhoods in doe bani, cutting -- kobani cutting islamic state control of town from 5 50% to a third uwe're coming right back. >> white house refuseing to ban flights from the ebola-stricken region of westaff car west afris coming in on what is the president's flawed philosophy on fighting ebola. go ahead and put your baright here. have a nice flht!
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lou: top lawmakers, some 100 people each day, are still applying for and being issued visas in guinea, liberia, and sierra leone to travel to united states, the three hardest hit nations from the ebola outbreak. house foreign affairs committee change congressman ed royce is leading the effort to halt he visas, we'll talk with him on the broadcast shortly, joining us for more on the ebola crisisd dr. saulheim and betsy mccoy. senior fellow at london center. as you know, tonight nina pham,
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infected with the ebola virus while caring ar a patient. she is being strai transported t now to maryland, i want to get from you a sense, doctor, a lot of people are questioning the hospital in dallas. where do we turn? the administration s making no sense on this travel ban in my opinion. this is something new. your reaction to what is happening in your profession with this ebola outbreak? >> sure. i think what happened in dallas has shown s that what is really important is people do keep talking about protocols, and cdc issueing co
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hospitals, it is important that places practice those, and review them, this ebola outbreak in u.s. is a new phenomenon. many local hospitals have not seen anything like it. and i think it just what happened in dallas drives home point we need be to top of our game at practicing and rehearseing and drilling and -ver techniques. lou: betsy, we know that doctor frieden has been aware of this and calling all of us to attention on issue since march, yet hospital after hospital does not know anything about the disease, how to prevent it, they had a choice -- >> let me little in that time. >> i'm very disappointed. the need for the ban is
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obvious. i've spent a decade in hospitals advocating for patient safety. hospitals that can't spread the infections that kill 75,000 people a year in our hospital, can't contain ebola. the bigger shock, the real news is to see what has happened to the cdc under thomas frieden. he has presided under an agency that was once respected. he's become the sycophant speaking for the white house instead of looking out for the safety of the public. lou: he was a public health director in new york. he's a bureaucratic. >> his obliggtion is to keep america is safe. when you watched him squirming in his chair today -- consider this, he didn't consider under his people in dallas who were under observation the 77 health workers who had directly taken care of mr. duncan because it would have made the number of people under observation
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higher, but the pr would have been terrible. that's how this woman ended up on a airplane. lou: in your judgment, what should we be doing here? protocols. what in hell do we mean when we talk about protocols? >> i think you make a good point that we have outbreaks of resis tant bacterias which, again, drives home that we need to do a better job with personal protective equipment with things like that. i think more importantly though for ebola overall and really for ebola in the u.s. we need to get control of the outbreak in africa. i think that's -- lou: that's all well and good, but my question is this: there seems to be a confusion at the cdc between the cdc's responsibilities and those of the world health organization. and if that confusion then extends to our doctors and to our nurses, then where do
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american citizens rate in terms of their responsibility. and right now, i would say to you that we're not treating those nurses very well. and the american people is scared to death, doctor, as you well know and it's about time people start talking sense here. >> treating ebola is such a perils mission that even doctors and nurses who are fully equipped in the proper gear, that the cdc failed to call for the first time are getting ebola and die. (?) lou: i want to explain if i may. the ambulance has arrived at the airport to put her aboard that aircraft that will carry her to the national institute's critical care unit and it will obviously be a quarantined unit. i don't know what level. perhaps a level four facility, but at this point it will be one of the very best, if not the best. there are two beds, i
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understand at that facility. so we wish her the very best. i'm sorry. go ahead betsy. >> it's a pair louse mission. 200 doctors have died taking care of ebola patients. many who had training. just this year. many of them had adequate (?) training and very good protective gear. including nine doctors without borders. the nurse in spain treating an ebola patient who is now clinging to life because as she was remmving her protective gear her finger, with gloved finger touched her face is now facing death. our nurses and doctors in this country shouldn't ffce the ultimatum of perfect% performance or death. lou: i'm very concerned about our troops that are being sent to africa. we've heard two stories about whether they will be in direct contact with patients versus handling the virus, that would be the mobile labs
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that are being set up. doctor, i'm concerned that the centers for disease control have been so las lax that there's not proper training for our troops. i think it's a considerable stretch to demand of our troops and order our troops into a situation where they will be facing the same jeopardy that betsy has just described. don't you? >> i think that the -- the army and the troops, and our armed forces are actually some of the best equipped to help with this, both from the standpoint of logistics which actually -- lou: have they ever at any point been involved in an ebola epidemic? have they ever once had to deal with it? >> i can't say for sure. lou: my point being -- i'm as pro military as anyone you will ever meet. i don't know of a single instance of their training with dealing
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with a deadly pidemic. >> they get constant training with biochemical warfare. lou: that is a very select, and, i mean, select group of ouu service members who are trained in that area. i appreciate it. we're out of time. thank you both and hopefully somebody will come to their senses at 1600 pennsylvania very soon. thank you very much. appreciate it betsy. time to look at our online poll results. is the white house responsible for tom frieden's comments that sometimes sound like political statemeets than judgments. 97 percent of you said yes. be suue to vote on our poll tonight. do you believe in refusing to ban travel from west africa, that president obama is putting his ideology ahead of american public health. cast your vote. you be next president
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obama signs an executive order for our troupes and their boots on the ground in west africa. just hours after a staff denies any knowledge of such a thing. >> what i don't know is the composition of that force and whether national guardsmen will be required to augment that force. if they are required, i don't kkow if the mechanics dictate that an executive order has to be signed by the president or if that's something the department of defense can act on. lou: now, he knows. we take up why the president's latest -- here next. >> nato allies and partners from around the world.
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lou: texas attorney general greg abbott calling on houston city officials and particularly the mayor to withdraw their subpoenas issued to a group of pastors demanding any sermons dealing with homosexuality. government officials must exercise the utmost care when our work touches on religious matters. if we err it must be on the side of preserving
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the autonomy of religious institutions and the liberty of religious believers. see first amendment. i put that part in. joining us now the former presidential candidate mike huckabee. i couldn't believe this story governor whimpled it. your reaction to this tweet, if i may. from houston mayor, annise, annise parker saying, quote, if the pulpits for politics their sermons are fair game. instructions were filling out antihero -- to target houston pastors. my goodness. your reaction, governor. >> well, lou, i think my first reaction is houston, we've got a problem and it's the yor. you know, i would say earth to mayor. there's something called the first amendment. and it is not your place
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nor anybody else in government to ever tell a pastor what he can say from his pulpit. that's hands off. run the city. but you don't get to run the churches of your city. and separation of church and state has never meant that the church is to shut up, be still, and go away. it's to say to the government: keep your filthy government hands off of religious liberty. this is an unbelievable outrage. lou: for those who don't know because it is pertinent i will point it out. the mayor of houston is the first openly gay mayor to serve in that office, and she is part of a lawsuit on going after an ordinance. very restrictive of those who would express an opinion about the lgbt community. this is ridiculous. i mean, if this were in any other situation, a
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heterosexual mayor trying to do this against an lgbt group, i mean, the outrage would be deafening, don't you think? >> well, let me just ask you something, lou: imagine if a mayor who was let's say a right wing tea party guy sends and says i want to see all your emails, your notes, i want to read all your speeches. i want to know who has been coming to your meetings. do you think there would be, oh, we'll be happy to turn this over. this is not just about religious liberty. it's also about voting riihts. what happened, some people in houston, citizens, when the city council hoisted this transgender law on the people of houston, they got sued. and so this is all about the lawsuit and an attempt to shut down the voices of descent. america is made great because we're a people who can express our
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descent. and when the government puts its heavy foot on the mouths of people and citizens and taxpayers, the real bosses of our culture, lou, we've lost our country. this is a big deal. i don't know how to say it anymore. this is a big deal when government acts in a way that tries to stop speech, stop religion, stop the preassembly. it is a trampling of several pieces of first amendment, not just the religious piece of it. lou: there's been rhetorical an3 political fire for effect of which they're trying to condition the political field. political correctness pervades and it certainly mitigates any strong response on the part of many to this outrage in houston. we appreciate your time. so much to get to. governor huckabee always good to see you. >> thank you, lou.
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lou: the top stories we were following tonight, a dwrim grim milestone in sierra leone where the government reports two people have been infected of @bola in what was the last ebola-free district in the country. hong kong leader said he's now ready to begin talks with protesters. but at the same time he's ruled out any possibility of concessions to the demonstrators and diplomats say iran is considering a u.s.
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proposal that would allow it to keep more of its nuclear infrastructure intact. iran and world powers negotiating for a deal by a november 24th deadline that secretary of state john kerry says will not be extended. house foreign affairs committee ed royce to suspend -- i was deeply concerned to learn that the u.s. embassies in guinea, sierra leone are still processing visas for non-u.s. nationals just as they had prior to the ebola outbreak. it's my understanding that 100 minutes for visas are visiting these embassies each day. thomas frieden was asked about this today. joining us now, the author of those comments, house foreign committee chairman. congressman ed royce. mr. chairman, good to have you with us. an extraordinary
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hearing, an extraordinary situation. the response from this administration. they've known what was coming presumably since march when frieden raised the alarm. your response to the administration's response to this. >> for example, it seems to me pretty clear-cut that when you have a pandemic like this, the first thing you would dd would be to put a hole. do you temporarily suspend the issuance of visas from people from these three countries into the united states? it is not an inherent right for people to travel or to have tourism to the united states in a case where you have a pandemic. in the past in 2009 we had a pandemic, for example, h1n1 flu and as a consequence they suspended the issuance of visas in certain concentrate leconcentrate let ul the situation was under
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control. (?) i don't understand why that is not deployed here. this would not be the first time to suspend visas. it's been 19 times in the past for either security concerns. so i don't think they've got this under control at all. lou: when asked today at the hearing over the commerce committee, about visas from west african nations for non-u.s. citizens, cdc director dr. frieden responded by saying, the cdc doesn't issue visas. that seems like a super silly and snarky response rom a man who has no standing to be so cavalier for his respect for the ccmmittee. don't you think? >> i think the indication hereeis that the administration in seeing a pandemic needs -@to take concerted action, and the fact that that is shrugged off, the fact that it's compounding the problem
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currently by issuing visas, as we speak, and haven't stopped that process, this is something that goes to the issue of why we're concerned about who is in charge and what is the strategy in order to contain this. lou: that strategy -- >> and defeat it. lou: i'm sorry congressman. that strategy goes now to an executive order for more troops to go to west africa. it is extraordinary to me that there's no discussion about the proper role of our troops and their deployment in the fight of ebola in west africa when we don't know what we're doing in our own country. >> it was the responsibility of the world health organization to get in there early. not downplay this. not low ball this, but to come up with a plan and to come clean with
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everybody in terms of the magnitude of the challenge and deploy the resources. i mean, the countries around the world, alice of us pay in to the world heaath organization. with the idea that they will step forward. we certainly would support that effort. seeing a lack of leadership there and seeing a lack of leadership in terms of the way the administration has handlee all this leads us to greater concerns because as you point out, this is spreading, and it will create not only enormous human misery in western africa, but if this isn't successfully contained, if this is not treated, if we don't develop the antidote to this, all this is, you know, in the process of being addressed. but ot in a coherent way that can be well explained..3 well-understood or effectively implemented and this is a concern right now. lou: ell, we're very happy that
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you expressed your concerns shared by so many americans and wrote that letter to the white house looking for some reason on what seems to most americans, i firmly believe, an illogical situation to take on that travel to west african countries. >> they should reverse that today. lou: congressman ed royce always good to talk to you. thanks so much. up next more controversial decisions delayed by the obama administration until after the elections. wow. given the ones that are public, imagine -- imagine what's coming. and more democrats refuse o say whether they voted for preeident obama. that's proud. say it loud. we're coming right back.
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good seeing the action we've seen of late. the nasdaq up who whole point. better than losses. right. volume on the big board still heavy. be sure to listen to my financial reports. three times a day coast to coast on the salem network. a familiar theme on the campaign trail. democrats are refusing to say whether they vooed for president obama. candidate michelle nunn yesterday. >> ms. nun did you vote for obama in 2008/2012. >> would you leave her alone? >> would you leave her alone. i love it. al son grimes also refusing to answer whether she voted for the president, but we know she voted for hillary clinton in the primary. add army sergeant bowbergs to the list of
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what the public won't find outtabout. it's better we not know. they're continuing investigation, but they're not saying when the report will be released, but we know it will be post election as we reported, a familiar tactic for the administration, that is eric holder's on. replacement. obamacare begins. the keystone pipeline. it's administration. promising amnesty to many illegal immigrants all until after the elections. now 18 days away. hang on. and our quotation of the evening. this quote from plato who said, we can easily forgive a child who is agreed of the dark. the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. up next the state of florida, witness one of the odds debates in memory. the highlights, the low lights rebuke or mostly low lights, next.
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lou: joining us now former reagan white house political director fox new political analyst and republican strategist, ed rollins. let's start with -- i've never heard with -- but this is a goody. why is anybody complaining about rick scott pointingous that charlie chris needs a fan because he sweats so profusely and chris isn't following the rules with his fan. this is fan gate. >> you could say hat. you walk out you do what you're supposed to do. lou: nobody would have known what the fan was for. >> if my opponent seems very, very cool because he has violated the rules and has a fan down there. a fan at 67 degrees
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outside today shouldn't be the governor. lou: what about all these democratic candidates, most recently. michelle nunn. not answering whether or not they voted for president obama. have you ever seen -- >> first of all, you don't to have basically -- the thing that you ought to say, listen i'm a democrat, i'm running as a democrat for the senate seat. i normally vote for democrats. take out of it what you want. the idea they're ducking and dodging to me is absurd. it's not doing them any good. harm, isn't it? them a lot of >> i hink it is. and it's finishing off the lady running against mcconnell. lou: there's the president -@trying to nail all of his3 policies to the back of these candidates and they're refusing to acknowledge he exists. i don't know who he is. what issthis 99 percent record voting for this guy. i don't know who he is.
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>> the president shhuld have been doing today canceled his fund-raising events and he's focusing on the ebola crisis. lou: some people think he maa have been right. it's scary to have him in washington -- >> that's a choice we could have made two years ago. at this point these races are pretty much cooked. they're down to the closing days. it's about local issues. scott, incumbent governor, it's his record versus the four years that ccris was there. that's plenty to debate and discuss. lou: and at this poont who do you think wins? >> i think scott wins. i think he's been a good governor. i think he's -- at the end of the day -- again, chris is a guy who bounced all over the place. he was a senator. he knew who would be beaten in the primary. democrats have nobody else in the state to run and becomes a democrat. lou: republican or democrat he's got his doggone fan. >> don't forget his tan.
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lou: the president's response. pinning all his policies on the backs of every democratic candidate, this response has been disastrous for this country and particularly twoonurses now who have contracted ebola. your thoughts about this. >> my thoughts it's a crisis that's been happening months and months. we should have been better as you discussed earlier this show, we're sending 3,000 troops out there, clearly not trained at this. they're trained to fight. whether that's a misuse of our troops is not for me to make the judgment. we're putting them in danger and a different kind of danger. the reaction as it is and the fear in the country as it justifiably is over two nurses what will happen when five soldiers or ten soldiers are digging a ditch somewhere and running to the stuff that's been cast away.
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