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frugal government which would leave men free to go after their money pursuits. that's stossel's show tonight. he'll be back this time next week. that despite the facts cdc director dr. freed an today admited on a hearing on capitol hill more of our health car worker cou become iected with ebola. >> we hope no more wl, butee3 know it is possibility, since two individuals did bome infected, oers may. lou: obama administration is not budgeing on the issue of a
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travel ban despite the obvious public dangers. desite growing number f democrats who now joid in call for a ban. for now,resident seems to be focused on political optics, canceling a planned trip for a second straight day to deal with the outbr to consult with lawmakersndubli hlth officials. republicans however are system call that --keptical that president obama and his adminiration are doing >> people are sred, w need all han on deck, we need a strategy, we need to protect the americaneople. firsrst and foremost. it is not a dll, pple's lives are at stake, and sbs sresponses has been unsn unacce. lou: president's critics
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calling for accountability at cdc, saying itshould begin with dr. tomreedan's firin have you seen the doctorake responsibility for the cdc not per foxing toxpectations they ve been focused on this situation since march. >> we take it up with chairman of house foreign aairs committee congressman ed royce, sayinghaing that addinistrations to stop granting visa's in ebooa stricken country, and president ama wants to send me of our troops into theot zone, issueing an executi oer to since the national guard to wt west afca, we look at logic orll logic behind that decision. >> and another day of idle swings on the -- wild swings on the stock market.
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what imore at play here, ebola fears, slowing economi growth in deflation? or after overdue market rrection. but we beg in dalla hospital ficials are being generou with their apologies but american people are in no mood for forgiveness. our fox news correspondent is in dallas wit our rept. >> reporte under prepared and under fire, dallas hospital that botcd treatment of first ebola fatality to u.s. admitted failure. >> we made mistakes, we did not correctl diagnose s those symptoms of these of ebola we're sorry. >> reporter: ttis set the chain of evens into motion, with many stf sidelineed, authorities will move nurse nina phammfrom the hospital to a biocontait
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union, for a third day in a row, nurses wave a red flag. >> texas is an example of what we have t fix. >> >> rorter: new questions swirl over yesterday's movement of nurse amb vincent. because of this man seen he in close proximity, without a haz-t suit, he ishe sure ptect, he followeampp to al protocols, oth communities are tang precautions, outside of cleveland, the akron schoo district closed itsoors until nexteek after learning a parent had contract wit her. >> thi is precaution that we're doing to let this all settle down, let additional infoation get out. >> reporter: a new scrning process began at newark, atlanta, chicago, and washington's dulle airport, ensureing traaeeers from west
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africa are cleared from ebola before eering t u.s. frontierirlines is reaching on all passengers from 5 flights that -- onnplane from cleveland to dlas, that plane is ou outut of servi, they have changedd3 air filters and undergoing a fourth cleanin lou. >> we have breaking news, f fox news is cfirming just moments o that immigration and custo forcement ancy, i.c.e. has started screening and isolates west africans who have illegally crossedorder over past mth, and you an named i.c.e. official tells fox that 11 individuals from ebola-stricken countrys have been depaneed and the have been placed since io medical housing until the 21 day period passes. the quarantine period. >> turnining to house energy and
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commerce committee hearing on ebola,ur first guest asked dr. tombout possibility of the ebola virus mutating. >> what we've seen is very little change in the virus, we don't think its spreadiig b any diffent way we confident that this not airborne. lou: congresswoman rene elmers, serves as a registered nurse for more than 21 years, and a member of house committee. your confidence now in cdc director? after hearing his ttimony after hearing his anssers to ur questions? >> i have less confidence than i had never the subcommittee hearing, ayou heard, the doctor contradicted himself over and over with the sittion, i think that why we have to act, and protect every american, i am callingor and have been
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calling for restrict on travel from any of those countries from west africa. africa. >> to be clear, the doctorrsaid th reason that admintration will not a ban on travel from those country, because it would make, effectively,ore difficult to fight ebola in africa. nigeria has done that, which is the reason thatheir country credits the reason for thereing be being n ebola in nigeria. >> wve to make sure they are not traveling here, or experien a period of 21 days isolation befor they come here, then we would not be able to track those, if we put restricts inlace, that makes no sense, i don'tn 't those -- i don't want
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those pottial individuals co here. i think we need t make se that theare n cing here. >> is the obama administration, are they just making political statements rather than medal judgments in refusing t put travel restricts? >> i cannot know why the president has not led on this su this is a simple issue, congress is ready to work with hii, and we put forward 9 points we believe put in place. will help in this situation, now is the time for president oba to use that p and that phone, and rch out, and put the travel restrcts in place. >> he has usedhat pen a ordered more troops, national guard, into west africa. ur thoughts?
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whether it is appropriate with our military personnel. >> i he 120 who will come from fort bragg, to africa, as well. to hell in efforts, they will put in place, medical infrastructure that is needed. there is little the right now to help. so a though i believe we should be helping we nd to make shower our military are protected, and it is my understanding o thi point they will not be in contact with any of the patients. however, that simply is not protecting the americans who are here, all it will take is o more individual, to come in contact with someone with this terrible disease, and it i goin to affect all of us,,you see the react of the american people on this issue, we need to be careful, more safy, i what we need to do. lou: two nurses infected, the doctor said we'll stop it in its
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track. that everyone hospital in country is equiped to deal ith ebola. it turns out he was more than mistaken he was flat wrong, and two nurses, now are paying a high price. your thoughts? >> well, right, and that was part of my questioning, also. with the doctor who was there and by telecom, i wanted to know, at what point about these particul nurses come in contact with mr. du duncan. i thought if it was in emergency room where things you knowish of knowish initial steps were taken that is one thing but it was after the patient was admitted toed medical icu, that is of concern, am sure they were following the protocols put i place this very concein to me, and part@ of my questions to what we're
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dealing wh. > quickly to live pictures, t texas health presbyterian, you see a number of vehicles awaiting the first nurse, nina pham, transported now from presbyterian to the nih quarantine unit in beth esda, maryland. your thoughts about what we're doing now, what we can do for those nurs who are on the frontline, first line, with this disease, and caringor patients? >> well, that is the queion, weave to make sure that all of the ecation, all of the guidelines, all of the protols are in place, for every health care workethat come into contact with anyonehat could be a potential victim of ebola.
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we have to make sure that the education is in place, training is -- >> let me ask you this, in its straht forward, we've been oo a global war on terrorist since september 11,001, facing a prospect we're told from then until now of nlear, biological and chemical terrorist actions, yet it clear that there is no system of communications 22 cdc, to all of the hospils, and that if another incident it tan place, not ebola but a fo of biolongal outbreak, our hospitals are not prepared for it. and that has to be disturbing to l americans,nd i would hope to congress, and to this president, we have not done enough in time that we had to prepare for outbreaeaks? >> wt, i say to, that our protocols are in place, but that they are unuse they are --
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>> >> can i say, i -- this business about protocol, let me say this is a simple citizen, i don't care about protol, i want know our people our nurses, are protected and we're defenng this country, and our commities withh best potenti forts, don't get hat sse do you? >> actually, at-this-point, i do not. and the thing is to my point, plot col are in -- protocols not been a biological situation to now, many get rusty it is just one ofhose things, but now we see,he need for it we have to act, there again we have to start somhere it has to stt with travel restrictions then come together and work this out, so that every american can feel safe. >> congresswoman rene elmers, thanyou. >> thank you.
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>> u.s. military's newly named operation inherent resol having some progrs in pushing back islamic state fro syrian @%rder town of kobani, sources lling fox news that kurdish units in the city haveetaken several neighborhoods in doe bani, cutting -- kobani cutting islamic stateontrol of town from 5 50% to a third uwe're coming right back. >> white house refuseing to ban flights from the ebola-stricken regionf westaff car west africas coming in on what is the presidt's flawed philosophy on fighting ebola. [ male announcer ] eligle for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything.
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lou: top lawmakers, some 100 people each day, are still applying for and being issued visas in guinea, liberia, and sierra leone to travel to united states, the three harst hit nations from thebola outbreak. house forei affairs committee change congressman ed royce is leading the effort to halt he visas, we'll talk with him on the broadcast shortly, joining us for more on the ebola crisisd dr. saulheim and betsy mccoy. seor fellow london center. as you know, tonight nina pham,
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infected with the ebola virus while caring ar a patient. she is being strai transport rit now to maryland, i want to get from you a sense, doctor, a lot of people are questioning the hospital in dallas. where do we turn? the administration s making no sense on this travel ban in my opinion. this is something new. your reaction to what is happening in your profession with this ebola outbreak? >> sure. ihink what happened in dallas has shown s that what is really important is people do keep talking about protocols,nd cdc issueing communications t
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hospitals, it is imptant that aces practic those, and review them, this ebola outeak .s. is a new phenomenon. many local hospitals have not se anything like it. and i think it just what ppened in dallas drives home point we need be to top of our game at practicing and rehearg and drilling and -ver techniques. lou: betsy, we know that doctor frieden has been awa of this and calling all of us to attention on issue since march, yet hospital after hospital does not know anything about the disease, how to prevent it, they had a choice -- >> let me little in that time. >> i'm very disappointed. the need for t ban is
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obvious. i've snt a decade in hospitals advocating for patient safety. hospitals that can't spread the infections that kill 75,000 people a year in our hospit can't contn ebola. the bigger shock, the real news is to see what has happened to the cdc under thomas frieden. he has psided under an agency that was onc respected. he's become the sycophant speaking for the white house insad of looking out for the safety of the public. lou: he was a public health dictor in new york. he's beaucratic. his obliggtion is t keep america is safe. when you wched h squirming in his chair today -- consider thi he didn't conder under his people in dallas wh were under observation the 77 health workers who had directly taken care of mr. duncan because it would hav made the number of people uer observation
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high, but the pr would have been terble. that's how this woman ended up on airplane. lou: in your judgment, what should we be doing he? protocols. what in hello we mean when we ta about protocols? >> i think you make a good point that weave outbreaks of resis tant baerias which, aga, drives home that we need to do a better job with personal protective equipment with things like tt. i think more importantly though for eba overa an really f ebola in the u.s. we need to get control of the outeak in africa. i think that's -- lou: that's all wl and good, but my question is this: there seems to be a confusion at the cdc between the cdc's responsibilities and those of the world health organizion. and if that confusion then extends to our doctors and to our nurses, then where do
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american citizens rat in terms of their spsibility. and right now, , i would say to you tt we're not treating those nurses very well. and the american people is scad to death, doctor, as you well know and it's about time people start talking sense here >> treating ebola is such a prils mission that even doctors and nurses who are fully equipped i the proper gear, that the cdc failed to call for the first time are getng ebola andie. (?) lou: i want to explain if i may. the ambulance has rived at t airport to put her aboard that aircraft that will crry her to the national institute's critical ca unit and it will obviously be a quarantined unit. i n't ow what level. perhaps a level four facility, but at this poinit will be one of the very best, if not the best.
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there are two beds, i understand at that facility. so we wish her the very best. i'm sorry. go ahead betsy. >> it's a pair louse mission. 200 doctors have died taking care of ebola patients. many who had traing. justhis year. many of them had adequate (?) training and very good protective gear. including nine doctors wiout borders. the nurse in spain treating an ebola patient who is now clinging toife because as she was remmving her protective gear her nger, with gloved finger touched her face is now facing death. our nurses and doctors in this country shouldn't ffce the ultimatum of perfect% peormance or death. lou: i'm very concerne about our troops that are bei sent to africa. we've heard two stories about whether they will be in direct contact with patients vsus handling the virus, that would be the mobile labs
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at are being set up. doctor, i'm concerned disease control have been so las lax that there's not proper training for our tops. i think it's a considerable stretch to demand of our troops and orr our troops into a situation where they will be facing t same jeopardy that betsy has just described. don't you? >> i think that the -- the army and the troop and our armed forces are actually some of the best equipped toelp with this, both from the standpoint of logistics which actually -- lou: have ey ever at any point been involved in an ebola epidemic? have they ever once had to deal with it? >> i can't say for sure. lou: my point being -- i'm as o military as anyone you will ever meet. i don't know of a single instancef their training with dealing
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with a deadly pidemic. >> they getonstant training with biochemical warfare. lou: that is a very select, and, i mean, select group of ouu service members who are trained in that area. i appreciatet. we're out of time. thank you both and hopefully somebody will come to their senses at 1600ennsylvania very soon. thank you very much. appreciate it betsy. time to look at our online poll sults. is the white house responsible for tom frieden's comments that sometimes sound like political statemeets than judgments. 97 percent of you said yes. be suue to voton our poll tonight. do you lieve in refusing to n travel from westfrica, that president obama is putting his ideology ahead of american public health. cast your vote. you be next president
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obama signs an executive order for our troupes and their boots on the ground in west africa. just hours after a staff denies any knowledge of such a thing. >> what i don't know is the composition of that force and whether national guardsmen wl be required to augment at force. if they are required, i don't kkow if the mechanics dictate that an executive order has to be signed by the president or if that's something the partment of defense can act on. lou: now, he knows. we take up why the president's latest -- here nxt. >> nato allies and partners from around the partners from around the so ally bank really has no hidden fees on savings accounts?
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the autonomy of religious instutions and the lirty of religious believers. see first amendment. i put t that part in. joining usow the former presidential candidate mike huckabee. i couldn't believe this story governor whimpled it. your reaction to this tweet, if i may. from houston mayor, anse, annise parker sang, quot if the pulpits for politics their sermons are fair game. instructions were filling out antihero -- to target houston pastors. my goodness. ur reaction, governor. >> well, lou, i think my first reaction is houston, we've got a problem and it's the mayor. you know, i would say earth to mayor. there's someing called the first amendment. and it is not your place
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nor anybody else in government to ever tell a pastor what he can say from his pulpit. that's hands off. run the city. but you don't get to run the chuhes of your city. and separation of church and state has never meant that the church is to shutp, be stl, and go away. it's to say to the vernment: keep your filthy government hands off of religious liberty. this i an unbelievable outrage. lou: for those who don't know because it is pertinent i will point it out. the mayor of houston is the first openly gay mayor to serve in that offi, and she is part a lawsuit on going aftern ordinance. very restrictive of those who would express an opinion about the lgbt community. this is ridiculou i mean, if this were in
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any other situation, a heterosexual mayor tryingo do this against an lgbt group, i mean, the outrage would be deafening, don't you think? >> well, let me just ask you something, lou: imagine if a mayor who was let's say right wing tea party guy sds and says i want to see all your emails, your notes, i want to read all your speeches. i want t know who has beenoming to your meetings. do you think there would be, oh, we'll be happy to turn this over. this is no just about ligious liberty. it's also about voting riihts. what happene some peop in houston, citizens, when the city council hoist this ansgender law on the people of houston, they gotued. an so thiss all about the lawsuit an attempt to shut down the voes o descent. america i made gre because we're a people
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who n express our descent. and when the government puts its heavy foot on the mouths of people and citizens a taxpayers, the real bosses of our culture, lou, we've los our country. this is a big deal. i dot know how to say it anymore. this i aigeal when government acts in a way that tries to stop eech, stop religion, stop the preassembly. it is a trampling of sevel pieces of first amendment, not just the relious pie of it. lou: there's been rhetoril andd3 polical fire for effect of which th're trng to condition the polital field. political correness rvades and it certainly mitigates any strong response on the part of many to this ouage in houston. weppciate your time. so much to get to. governor huckabee always good to see you. >> thank you, lou.
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lou: bsure o watch huckabee eight p.m. eastern that's on fox. stay wiih us. >> west african nations crediting border closures in their success for fighting eba, b president obama refuses to ban travel from west africa to the unite states and chairman royce is next. go ahead and put your bag right here. have a nice flight!
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propos that would allow it to keep more of its nuclear infrastructure intact. ir and world powers negoatinfor a deal by a november 24th deadline that secretary of state john kerry says will not be extended. house foreign affairs committee ed royce to spend -- i was deeply concerned to learn that the u.s. embassies in guea, sierra leone are ill processing visas for non-u.s. nationals just as they had prior to t ela outbreak. it's my understanding that 1 minutes for visas are visiting the embassies each day. thomas frieden was asked about this today. joining us now the author of those comments, house foreign committee chairman. congressman ed royce. mr. chairman, good to have you with us.
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an extraordinary heing, an extraordinary situation. the response frohis administration. they've known what was coming presumably since march when frieden raised the alarm. your response to the administration response to thi >> for example, it seems to me pretty clear-cut that when you have a pandemic like this, the first thing you wld dd would beo put a hole. youemporarily suspend the issuanc of visas from people from these three countries ininto the united states? it is not an inherent right for people to travel or to have tourism the united states in case where you ve a panemic. in the past in 29 we had a pandic, for example, h1n1 flu and as a consequence they suspended the issuance of visas in ctain concentrate leconcentrate let ul the situatn was under
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contro (?) i don't undetand why that i noteployed here. this would not be the first time to susnd visas. it's been 19 times in the past for either security concerns. so i don't think they've got this under control at al. lou: when asked today at the hearing over the cmerce committee, about visas from west african nations for non-u.s. tizens, cdc dirr dr. friederesponded by saying, the cd doesn't issue visas. that seems like a super lly a srky response rom a manho has no standing to b so cavali for his respect for the ccmmittee. don't you think? >> i think the indition hereeis that the administration in seng a pandemic needs -@to take concted action, and the fact that that is shrugged off,he ft thatt' compounding the problem
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currently by issuing visas, as we speak, and haven't stopped that process, this is something that goes to the issue of why we're ncerned about who is in charge a what i the strategy in order to contai this. lou: tt strategy -- >> and defeat it. lou: i'm sorry congressman. that strategy goes now to an execive order for more troops to go to west africa. its exaordinary to me that there's no discussion about t the prop role of our troops and their deployment in the fight of ebola in west afca when we d't know what we're doing in our own country. >> it was the responsibility of the world health organization to get in there early. not downplay this. not loball this, but to come up with a plan and to c com clean with
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everybody in terms of the magnitude of the challee and deploy the resources. i mean, the countes around theorld, alice of us pay in to the world heaath organization. with t idea thathey will ste forward. we certaly wld support th effort. seeing a lack of leadershiphere and seeing a lack of leadership in tes of the way the administration has handlee allhis leads us to greater concerns beusas you point out, this is spreadin and it will create not only enormous human misery in wester africa, but if this isn't successfully contained, if this i not treated, if we don't develop the antidote to this, all this is, you know, in the process of ing addressed. t ot in a cohent way that can be well explaine.3 well-undstood or effectively implemented and thiss a concern right no lou: ell, we're very happy that
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you expressedour concerns shared by so many americans and wrote that letr to the white house looking for some reason on what seems to most americans, i firmly believe, an illogical tuationo take onhat travel to west african cntries. >> they should reverse that today. lou:ongressman edoyce always good to talk to you. thanks so much. up next more controversial decisis delayed by the obama administration until after the electio. wow. given the ones that a public, imagine -- imagine what's coming. and more demrats refuse o say wther they voted for preeident obama. that's proud. say it loud. we're coming right back.
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lou: joining us now forr reagan white house political director foxew political analyst and republican strategist, ed rollins. let's start with -- i've never heard with -- but this is a goody. why is anybody complaining about rick scott pointingous that charlie chris needs a fan because he sweats so profusely and chris isn't llowing the rules with his fan. thiss fanate. >> you could say hat. you walk out you do what you're sposed to do. lou: nobody would have known what the fan was for. >> if my opponent seems very, very cool because he has violated the rules and has a fan down there. a fan at 67 degrees
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outside today shouldt be the gornor. lou: what about all these democratic caidates, most recently. michle nunn. not anering whether or not they voted f president obama. have you ever seen -- >> first of all, you don'to have basically -- the thing that you ought to say, list i'm a democrat, i'm running as a democrat for the senate seat. i normally vote for democrats. take out of it what you want. the idea they're ducking and dodging to me is absurd. it's not dng the any good. harm, isn'tt?ng them a lot of >> i hink it is. and it finishing off the lady running ainst mcconnell. lou: there's the president -@trying to nail all of his3 policies to the back of these candidates and they're refusing to acknowled he eists. i don't know who he is. what issthis 99 pcent record voting for this y.
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i don't know who he is. >> the president shhuld have been doing today canceled his fund-raising events and he's focusing on the ebola crisis. lou: some people think h maa have been right. it's scary to have him in washington -- >> that's a choice we could have made two years ago. at this point these races are pretty much cooked. they're down to the closing days. 's about localssues. scott, incumbent governor, it's his record versus the four years that ccris was there. that's plenty to debate and discuss. lou: and at this poont who do you think wins? >> i think scott wins. i think he's been a good governor. i thinke's -- at the end of the day -- again, chri a guy who bounced all over the ace. he was a senator. he knew who would be beaten in the primary. democrats have nody else in the state to run and becomes a democrat. lou: republican or democrat he's got his doggone fan. >> don't forget h tan.
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lou: theresident's response. pinning all his picies on the bcks of every democratic candidate, thisesponse has been disastrous for this country and particular twoonurses now who have contracted ebola. your thoughts about this. >> my thoughts it's a crisis that's been happeninmonths and months. we should haveeen better prepared. as you discussed earlier this show, we're sendiding 3,000 troops out there, clearl not trained at this. they're trained to fight. whether that's a misuse of our troops is not for me to make the judgment. we're putting them in danger a different kind of danger. the reactn as it is and the fear in the country as it juiably is over two nurses what will happen when five soldiers or n soldier are digging a ditch somewhere and running to the stuff that's been cast away.
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