neil: tonight on cavuto are we talking too much about ebola? or not enough? now, some are saying the media is adding to hysteria. how reporters could have done more. why the home depot founder is mad about how the administration is handling ebola. bernie is here to explain himself. democrats are saying cuts at the cdc is the problem. what about the bonus being handed out. the new apple tv unveiled. you can pick one up today. the big show starts right now. >> good to be with you. i'm connell mcshane in

for neil cavuto and health care worker who may have been exposed to the ebola virus out to sea the big question we'll look at tonight is government out to lunch. carnival cruise says one of its passengers is -- that passenger not showing signs they say symptoms since currently being held in isolation. fox business network learned that carnival has alerted other passengers to this situation, but this person out on a cruise. today's big news, president obama appointing an ebola czar to be the person for the administration's response. let's start off with pennsylvania republican congressman tim murphy who chaired yesterday's hearing about ebola. congressmen, let's talk about the news of the day. and also vice president al gore named as the point person the so-called ebola czar. what do you think of the

idea of the position and what do you make of the pick? >> i don't like the position of ebola czar. we have a secretary of health and human resources. she can step in. she can coordinate these efforts. many of these agencies are under her watch. secondly, i don't understand why the pick was made of this man. this is a campaign operative. this is someone who worked for the vice president. zero experience in the medical area or infectious disease control. when we had the hearing, three hours of experts from the cdc and other government agencies not one of them said appoint a czar that knows nothing about what i do. that's absurd. it's tone deaf to the american people. while the american people are trying to have more calm and more focus and this is the job the cdc and the white house and the hhs ought to be doing, what we're hearing let's put someone in charge who has no idea what they're talking about.

>> in trying to coordinate the efforts are calls from people like you. as we heard at the hearing, for a travel ban from these west african countries, the administration has resisted that so far, they've said a couple of things, and i i'd like to respond if you can to what they've been saying. number one, it would be difficult to get people in and on you of the countries with where they need help. the critics say chartering is too expensive we need commercial flights. what do you say? >> that's absurd. we're able to send people all around the world. we have military flights and c1 thirties. and c fives that can pack a lot of personnel in there. we're putting a lot of money into controlling this disease as i believe is appropriate in africa. we need to help them so it doesn't spread around the world. that's a false argument along those lines too. they also say people might flee to other nations. well, look when they flee to other nations and find another way to come in here, that shows

people are using deceit to come into this country. what would you do if you want to get to an american hospital, people would try and deceive the people at customs and border control. that's part of the problem that that system isn't working. the third thing they present we don't want to hurt a fledgling democracy. this is about helping americans stay healthy. we need to focus on that. >> or that it might be difficult to enforce. there's no direct flights to these countries anyway. it's difficult to enforce the travel ban because they're going through other airports. what do you think of that? >> again, i believe there should be some level of travel restrictions. american systems who are entitled to come back you can undergo a quarantine. they present an argument that's so extreme, it's absurd. >> congressman tim murphy here with us. thank you. is it possible that we could have stopped the

spread of ebola if the media jumped on it sooner? now, of course, some think the media's coverage has been over the top. some people have said its added to the hysteria. but brent is here with us tonight and said the outlets are doing their job. the idea that the media has not been doing enough. the washington post wrote this piece that said if the america media had paid more attention to ebola over the summer that attention would have been given to it, and maybe that could have slowed down the spread of the virus. so what do you make first of that argument? >> well, i think dare half right. i think the washington post is right in pointing out that they didn't. it was kind of like the obamacare website roll out. people overlooked the fact that it took the networks two and a half weeks to focus on this disaster. ebola broke in september. it only was starting to get covered about a week ago. you could say, yes, they were late to the game.

however, can we blame abc news for ebola? no. can we say it would have spurred this administration to act when it's still not acting. i don't think you can make that claim. >> that was happening before we got to this point. now, that we're here -- even here on a friday night, the other argument and i'm sure there's something to this for certain individuals of the media you can isolate people and say this person has been alarmist and this person said something inappropriate. the idea that the media overall has done too much, what do you say of that? >> people say, you send tv cameras to watch a politician give the same speech for the 90th time. should something awful happen to him, god forbid, you'll have a camera that will have filmed it. no one knows what will happen with ebola. it hasn't been a crisis yet. everyone is on standby should something could happen. there's great

uncertainty. if nothing happens, will they have overblown it. if something happens -- >> i don't know if i'm asking you for the purpose of asking advice or the purpose of making a statement, but i was thinking about it the other day, stories like this, there's a balance you have to strike. most people agree it's an important story you can list all kinds of reasons why it is. at the same time turnouts that you're not alarming people unnecessarily if the people that are watching your show or listen to your broadcast are not necessarily at a personal risk or high personal risk of contracting the virus. striking that balance at times can be difficult. the way you do that is being very careful about covering the hysteria. somebody gets sick on a bus or somebody gets sick on a cab or plane, before you jump to the conclusion that it's ebola, be very careful to double-check and triple check that case. >> we saw a lot of those scares.

a lot of them were rumors. thanks for coming on tonight. brent. now, my next guest we can't talk about ebola enough in many ways. victor says he wish the government were talking to hospitals like his. thank you for coming in. people who work for you ready? have they been trained, are they ready to deal with ebola if they have to? >> physicians, nurses, hospital personnel deal with infectious diseases every day, we're waiting with patients with h1n1, sars, whatever you want to call it, we're constantly trained and equipped for that kind of stuff. >> what about ebola? >> ebola in particular because of the severity of the outcomes, a lot of these other flu like symptoms we're able to overcome with our immune symptoms. responding to ebola is a virility disease, even

healthy people are scumming to it. we do need to tighten what we're doing. we need to retrain our staff -- >> i want to ask how you're doing that. say you have people that are working for you and they have a case that is suspected for whatever reason to be a possible ebola skace. >> what's the first thing you tell them to do. >> isolate and contain. (?) put masks and get them in isolation rooms. we have a greeter at the door and that person has a hazmat cart containing different equipment. that person is wrapped. right into an isolation room. my team has a few minutes to suit up. the mask, the booties. >> are you getting false alarms. >> we had a few came in recent travel from nigeria. high fever. flu like symptoms. walk through the doors. >> it's going to be flu symptom jrksz it will be a diagnostic dilemma. >> how do your people

distinguish, what are the important questions to ask? >> in one case, we did what we had to do it was malaria. good news, it's malaria. >> sounds crazy. >> we had to be up on top of that. you know, we are looking out for it. we're preparing for it. if a person comes into the emergency department right now we have the proper equipment. we're training our nurses. last night we had a session, 3,251st responders, police, fire -- >> are you getting from the federal government. >> not yet. nothing. >> the cdc. >> not a word. we're receiving a lot of information online. the department of health, new york state. >> you read the guidelines online? >> that's what we do. they receive things from the department of health, the cdc. we incorporate them into our training. we get them to our personnel. the people that came from new york support us they say we're going to

go to bat for you at the hospital if you do need financing. they will work with us. >> good luck with everything. thank you for coming on with us. the cdc is hurting for budget cuts. you may have heard that argument. maybe dheshed tell the cdc stop cutting the checks. the story next

>> cut, cut. cut. make a cut. >> all right so an ad there you get it from a liberal group, the cdc. now, the other side of all this would be how about the cdc cuts out the bonuses. the agency shelled out a

lot in bonuses since 2007. we have our all stars assembled here. rob. and tracy byrnes is on hand as well. we'll start with kaley tonight. we can talk about this. i think a lot of this, if you took the other side of it, you could say, either side you could make an argument that this is just pure politics on both sides. if anything could be free of politics, it would be a week like this when we're talking about ebola. i guess not. >> it's the typical liberal pay. you look at the cdc budget which has tripled since 2000, but they can't make do with those funs. this bonus things argues. mr. shriver. sixty you 22,000-dollar bonus in 2007. that is more than median household income. that perturbs me. >> if you want people of that i will being to be

able to do to do the things they can do for our country, you have to pay them a reasonable wage. one of the doctors made $260,000 last year. if he was in the private sector, he would have made a million dollars. >> but i think the part that infuriates people is that -- and yet bonuses kept going up. bonuses maybe should have frozen along with that. these guys have to do the right thing. they have to think about public perception. they have respect for the american people because we're paying these bills. funding froze. bonuses should have froze as well. >> maybe it's just not even worth talking about, but i guess the frustration, if you get kind of a group of liberal pun ditz, you can't cut the funding, it's ebola. there's no topic where it's just not predictable answers.

that's my point. >> we see this all the time with democrats any time that there's any kind of cut, they say there will be kids starving. the school lunch cuts, this is typical liberal play. it's coming out now. >> maybe the bonuses shouldn't have been $60,000 maybe $14,000. >> come on. cure ebola. >> it's every issue. somebody wrote earlier, the travel ban. that's been on the news all week. you should put the travel ban. no you shouldn't have one. so somebody wrote a piece where they said if there was a republican president, if the respect president was there, you would have all the liberals saying, what's this guy, he's catering to all the business interests here's. he's catering to the airlines. they always find the argument on the other side is my point. >> we're not curing anything. >> not in africa. >> no, we're not doing

anything. what is the cdc doing other than politicizing itself back and forth. >> that's what's most disdisturbing that was it the cdc that did this. it was the cdc that mentioned the budget cuts to begin with. >> this was the response to it approximate&kind of a predictable response. there's frieden who came under fire. you think he survives this. >> i think so. >> doing a good job? >> i have no problems. meaning i don't think he's going to lose his job. >> i don't think so either. only because there's not a replacement available. >> that could be true. >> there you go. >> if you stick around long enough, you get the top seat. >> you'll get a warning from the founder of home depot who said something the president just did was out of control.

connell: all right. we're going to talk now about gearing up for ebola, literally. jeff flock is at an illinois based company that produces protective equipment which i'm sure a lot of people would be interested in these days. >> i tell you things are really humming here. the company is medline and it's a privately held company.

you can look city stocks of public companies that do some of the same stuff. they've been remarkably successful over the past month, but also a lot of volatility there. i guess when all is said and done, i've got the vice president here. this is not a huge piece of your business, preparing for ebola, but at the moment it's probably the most high profile. >> it's definitely the most high profile. on average we've been receiving over 150 inquiries a day from our customers wondering which personal protective equipment items that we have available for them. >> i want to talk to your chief nursing officer as i can as we watch these kits being prepared. what i'm looking at there, marty, is a kit that is recommended by the cdc. is that correct? is that where you're getting that? >> these are the ppes that the cdc is recommending to use for allus diseases. >> what they have in them is a face mask, i'm looking here. if i can contaminate that for a moment.

>> this is a face mask with an eye shield and has the ability to protect the eyes. eyes are one of the most easiest access for transmission. >> got you. and then there's also -- this gown it's not a regular gown. it's an impermeable gown. >> correct. it prevents body fluids from soaking into your uniform or anything you're wearing. >> you're cranking these out pretty quickly. do you have the ability to go even faster and do even more volume if you need to if things get worse. >> we have a plan in explain that if we need to -- to we can crank it up and increase our capacity. >> they're prepared. as you can see they're going out here as fast as they can. >> important stuff to see something we've talked about all week to see it come to life. jeff flock in illinois. this new ebola czar we were talking about it's a big story today. is this the answer we really need? let's talk to a medical

professional about that. dr. invader. one of the parts is you would say there are too many cooks in the kitchen. we have the cdc director the acting surgeon general, everybody in the white house itself and we have this point person who is a czar. do you thinkit a agood idea? >> having a point person that will take absolute leadership is a great idea. i know ron, well, and so he's a consummate insider. but we need someone who is a health care professional. we need a doctor. we need someone who understands and can instill confidence in the american public about understanding what the whole disease spectrum is and somebody who is leadership and management experience. because what the public needs right now is somebody to take charge who knows exactly what they're talking about. we don't need a

bureaucrat. >> you know him. you were somewhat complimentary of his management skills. he's a guy who knows how to manage a staff of people. he knows how washington works. >> sure. >> he would be qualified there, but by a doctor, we need a doctor in this position. it seems to be taking shots at the current cdc director, dr. tom frieden is that me reading too much into it or is that what you think. >> that's what i think. it's a three ring service. between the cdc and the nih. and go to fact of the matter is the cdc has already blown it. no matter what they say right now, they've lost the confidence in terms of all the things they've changed in the last week, in terms of the execution and/or the parameters. the unfortunate part of the matter is that in general doctors don't tend to be great public communicators.

and that is an extremely important skill right now in terms of being able to understand the problem and being able to communicate that to the public. >> maybe that's why they went for a political guy. maybe that's your argument. a doctor needs to look at the medicine behind it, and the political guy can communicate it. maybe that would be an argument for them. >> that would be an argument for him. we need a real surgeon general. scrap this nomination which nobody really wants. and let's find somebody else. >> the democrats are saying, the republicans need to stop their opposition to this surgeon general -- let's just get a completely different nominee. >> we don't need a poster child for obamacare. we need someone right now who has the experience and leadership management communication who is going to take charge and will be able to to do the collaboration that's necessary right now. we haven't had the likes of a surgeon general like coop in ages.

i mean, nobody knows who the acting surgeon general is (?) >> let me ask you just before we wrap it up. let me ask a medical question. that would be: acknowledging that we've made mistakes and you've outlined what some of them are. and a lot of people will acknowledge that have at that there have been mistakes made with regard to ebola. do you think the country is at great risk for some great outbreak. even though we've made mistakes, we'll be able to get this under control, do you think? >> i don't think we know enough right now in terms of of what the magnitude will be. i think the biggest risk is that hospitals aren't adequately prepared. there's no sis tell matic framework in terms of instructing every health care professional in terms of of what they're supposed to do and clear criteria for the lay public in terms of of what they should look out for. that communication needs to be coming from the

top. that's not going to to be ron delivering it. we don't need an attorney telling us us what to look out for sure. we need a doctor in charge to be able to carry that massage. >> thank you for coming on. so the home depot founder bernie is coming up. he finds everything going on sickening. bernie is here next. branches equals great rates. (receptionist) gunderman group. gunderman group is growing. getting in a groove. growth is gratifying. goal is to grow. gotta get greater growth. i just talked to ups. they got expert advise, special discounts, new technologies. like smart pick ups. they'll only show up when you print a label and it's automatic. we save time and money. time? money? time and money. awesome. awesome! awesome! awesome! awesome!

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meeting with researchers and doctors on some spell research -- stem cell research. everyone that i have talked to, let me tell you, all of these doctors have said the same thing. and they also the same thing they all say. the amount of sophistication you have to have when dealing with ebola patients is very important. eighteen, 19, 21-year-old kids, you can't expect them to understand what they are going into, if you expect that, it is purely ridiculous. i have stronger words, but i'm not going to use the word. >> so the military has said they will all be given proper training and medical threat. >> you know, they had nurses in dallas that have gone to school to learn about this and to

understand what it means to be in a sterile situation and they didn't do it. how do you expect a 21-year-old kid that learned how to shoot a rifle and be in the field, how is he going to know how to deal with it? >> you can understandably want to go after ebola in the place where it -- and africa where it's a big problem. and to achieve that goal, if it's not the way the military, is there a better way going about it you can think of? >> i am not a doctor, but i'm just giving you my device. there are probably other ways to do it volunteers who actually notice, who understand this. and every time you put this out there, you find people from all

over the world. when there's an earthquake or a tornado or other countries that have the same thing. why would you take kids that know nothing and have no knowledge whatsoever and put their lives in danger. that is crazy. a professional would know how to handle it in for the military to say this is no different than the cdc saying it. connell: the other big news is this ebola czar that was appointed. former chief of staff to vice president, two vice presidents, including the current one, a guy named ron klain, he's the point person in charge. you think that is a good idea to have one person in charge of the response? >> well, why would you take a political appointee and give that up to a political appointee? are there any brains in washington? would we dealing with here? connell: why not a medical person is what you would

suggest? >> yes, we have to have knowledge of what is happening here. it is and say the way the -- it's insane the way that this administration is handling this. this has to do with facts on the ground. how do you deal with this intelligently and the way they are doing it is not intelligent. connell: what are the effects of all of this? someone with your expertise might be able to comment on this. one potential effect is that the economy could slow down because people started getting worried and wrapped up in it. even if there's not a risk for you and i contracting it personally, we say the worry sets in and you spend less and go to the store less, are you worried about that economic impact? >> no, i don't think that i worry about the but health and welfare. i'm concerned about my family and the people that i know. i think that that should be the major concern her if the economic fallout like the political fallout, i think that

everything that comes out of washington today has to do with the election that is coming up. so let's look at what is good for this country and would you put boots on the ground on something like this? and you are not willing to put its on the ground against isis or other places, at least they are qualified to fight. and it you are fighting an enemy with a 70% mortality rate. connell: how would you describe overall the way the president has handled this? the way to the administration has handled the response? >> i think that this came up, we should've been prepared, but we are not repaired and it happened. i think that the cdc, the head of it is a qualified guy. i think that he's caught up in politics where he same things that i don't know that he

believes. you know, to say that, closing the border doesn't stop it, i don't get it and i don't understand it. i think if you take the politics out of a national disaster and a possible international disaster, we have to take the policy is something that has to be solved and a ceo which the president of the united states has to be should try to call in the experts from all over the world instead of having a meeting with his cabinet, i would have a meeting with the head of research at the cleveland clinic, mayo clinic, all the great clinics in the world, that is who i would have sitting on the table with me. not the secretary of defense area. connell: bernie marcus, the cofounder of home depot. think of recalling and, we appreciate your perspective. coming up next if you're feeling skeptical, you are not alone.

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connell: are you skeptical of just about everything right now reign you are not alone if you are. kmele foster is as well. others are skeptical as well. "the independents" a special is coming up right after this program on the fox business network. tell us about the show before everyone weighs in on this. >> as you mentioned, it's called i am skeptical. it's about casting a critical eye on most of the politicians. it's about being in terrible and distrusting everything and we are going to put it up against the evidence. he. connell: give us an example if

you can. >> look at ebola. there's been hysteria and panic. let's look at the numbers and what is actually killing people in africa at this point. there're things like malaria that are bound to kill people in africa this year. it hasn't quite happened with ebola. even in the united states we have several cases, it's unfortunate, it's something we should be concerned about. should we panic? i'm stuck that will. >> i am as well. still let's test our level of skepticism here in the studio. she seems optimistic to me. [laughter] >> how skeptical are you about the world? three taking a look at the obama administration. we've had problems with the va hospital and the reaction to ebola. we've had problems with this. there is a laundry list of issues and i understand why americans are skeptical.

but there's reason to be hopeful. because we've got 300 some -- 20 million people in this country, things don't happen as quick as everyone would like. everyone says you're not changing everything on the dime, but we don't do that. there's too many people to make those kinds of huge changes on an instant. when people realize that some of the reactions we have made our proven, the hysteria will stop. >> kaylee says you're absolutely insane. [laughter] >> my skepticism rests not with the institution so much, it's squarely with the administration. as he pointed out brilliantly at this is a president who wakes up and kind of learns the news along with the rest of us, which is not in dealing with the way this crisis works. so shifting from the left to the

right the latest cbs news poll confirms that. >> i think this is part of the reason we are so skeptical. they say wall street is completely against you. everything is rigged against the little guy. that's the voice of the keep hearing and eventually you start to believe that maybe everything is rigged and i can't trust anything at this time because that is what i'm being told that think. >> i think that that is what set into some of this hysteria in some people's minds. sometimes we need to take a deep breath and say, okay, it's awful what has happened and what are the odds that any of us would contract this virus? thoughts have to be ridiculously low. >> it's not so much that you totally lose faith in the institutions, but perhaps the guy that has the grand idea that's likely to solve everything. climate change, oh my gosh, what are we going to do. we forfeit 2% of gdp to try to

confront it, well, will that solve the problem? it's appropriate to be skeptical. connell: i will watch "the independents" right after this tonight. coming up next, why john grisham's readers are saying his offensive comments are borderline criminal. we will have that next go ahead and put your bag right here. have a nice flight! traveling can feel like one big mystery.

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you got this. connell: maybe john grisham's next book will be entitled damage control the way things are going. the author apologizing for comments he made to the british newspaper the telegraph. looking at a quote from these comments. they got online, started surfing around, probably had too much to drink, went too far and went into child lewd videos or

whatever. they deserve punishment or whatever, but 10 years in prison? asking the question, mr. john grisham which caught a lot of heat for those comments. he has a new book coming out. you're looking at it there. we reached reached out to the book's publisher and have not heard back from those requests. some disagree. charlie, usually it's all about the money. you don't think he was pressured into backtracking in the case? >> i think that the book might have had something to do with it. but let's pretend that it wasn't even coming out but he was just a noted public figure. i think there is a insensitivity of mafia out there. if someone says anything that is a little bit controversial or edgy, they go after them and they must redacting do a unilateral klickitat apology. i don't agree and i'm not

defending what he said. but if you read the long statement, he had a personal experience of a friend that suffered from a mistake that he made. connell: a friend is what he said but here's the thing. the general premise is as understandable that maybe there's a little too much or not allowed to make fun of stuff that i would say, however, if you're going to make a list, even a short list, somehow pedophiles would probably make that list that maybe we could find something else to talk about. what are your thoughts on that? >> that is completely true. as someone who has friends who has dealt with this, tell most nation all these things, it is a serious issue and for him to come out and make these same in, which did seem well-prepared, i think that he felt the backlash of it. there was a social media firestorm over the comments. clinical practice or not, that was something that should not have been said and he realized that and realize that maybe these deals he brokered with hollywood are in jeopardy. he advanced and we don't support

your statement or your comments. of course he has to come out and apologize for it. but his well thought out comments on this make me think that there was something else behind that that motivated it. connell: well-thought-out, how much does that play into public punishment for the comments? >> i'm sure that's an element of it. diving deeper into it, i think that he had a personal experience. he did apologize. i agree that child molestation and all of that is an awful thing and i think that john grisham would agree. pedophiles really should be, you know, punished for their actions. but i'm trying to approach it from the standpoint that he was trying to say something that was out of the norm and going against the grain and immediately he got attacked from all edges. whether it was justified or not is up to the public to decide. but i think that prison reform, which i think he was getting at is a deeper issue, is a discussion we should have in this country. we have more prisoners and the rest of the world combined here

in america. >> i think he was targeted this example, for whatever reason, but charlie's point, he's trying to talk about how to many people are in prison. >> that's right, he made the comment that no one has been harmed by these people who haven't actually touched children, but at the same time i don't buy this whole you have been drinking too much and you go on the website and you stumble upon these videos. that was something that is intentional. and i think that he has the right to free speech but i do not think that defending the actions of somebody who is looking for a these videos serving time in jail for eight crime committed should be something that we talk favorably about. connell: yes, it has to be someone else with defending other than the person who is in jail for that type of them. charlie, and actually, thank you so much for joining us to both of you. we appreciate the two of you. apple but all but unveiled their

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connell: biz blitz time. in tonight's, did apple just release its apple tv. sort of. because its high resolution imac was announced. the fox biz all stars are on with that. not a lot of people are talking about this. if you have a computer that has a great screen on it, the hbo announcements, it's another tv. let's watch it on the computer. >> i still think bigger is way better. i have to tell you. that big old curve universal hd thing on the wall. huge awesome -- if you're going to watch movies, surround sound. >> if you have kids, you take that and put them

off on the computer. >> or there's that. >> the issues i have with apple's new product, why in the world would you launch a brand-new product like this right off the heels of iphone six. no wonder it got lost. >> maybe that was on purpose. >> they're not even -- most of the services aren't streaming at that high level. >> this is seven times sharper than regular footage, but the footage has to be in 5k. nobody tapes in that. what are you going to do? maybe your icons will look really sharp. will you pay 5,000 for it. >> we're not even in 4k they're so ahead of the game. pawning it off as a tv won't work. >> none of the products were diseruptive. they need another one. >> issue two is kind of fun here. your food could be

telling you to go for a run. a new study has scientists calling for exercise data on food and drink packaging. so like instead of having calories, it would have a bigger impact on people to pick up like herbie's kitkat. you ran a few miles and you can burn this off. >> i think that's a fantastic idea. ump talking about this on the break, you constantly people say, i worked out, so i can have a cheeseburger. but that cheeseburger takes 5 miles to burn off. >> give people the information. let them -- >> we're an obese nation, but mostly i think this would work for younger people who don't understand what the cochlear intake actually is. realistically i can't see having the dunkin' donuts -- (?) >> you pick up a soda or one of the candy bars and all of a sudden

you'll be like let me take a bottle of coke, for example, let me chug this and i'll run. what are you doing? you'll have a kitkat run or coke and run. >> on the flip side, the lazy person would say skip the coke i don't want to go for a run. >> you work out every day. >> this could cripple small businesses if they have to figure out -- you're launching a new product and go for a run and see how many calories it will take to run off. >> people don't understand. who said that earlier. people really don't understand when they're working out a lot of times. they think they're doing way more than they are. >> john hopkins found that kids choose healthier products when they knew it took 5 miles for the cheeseburger. >> more information for you. >> if you're even looking at a cheeseburger menu, you couldn't give a darn. >> the people that you're supposed to be

talking about it, that's not the people that eat the treats. all the emails keep it coming and thank you so much for coming. i'm connell mcshane in for neil cavuto. have a good night. kennedy: did you ever find your yourself on what you see on the news? deurk friends -- do you autos your intellectual like a needle and poke claims in the less informed? you my friends might be a skeptic. we'll look at various news stories. we'll take a look at ebola, organic foods, even voting. we'll test your skeptical knowledge of best blunders. if you have ever said i'm skeptical then you are in the right place. this is "the independents."