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warmed up for the next hour. money starts now. melissa: ebola under control? that is what officials are telling us when the deadly virus arrives in new york. followed to the letter, others not so sure about that. copycat conference. an attack on cops in new york is really similar to the terror bench we're seeing elsewhere. oh please, queen elizabeth finally logs on to twitter. listen to what she has been itching to tell you. i am having my own flagstaff friday right here on money. if you follow me on twitter you can guess which old friend i have been talking to. very fun. even when they say it is not, it is always about money. the show must go on. the first case of ebola hits new york but city officials say
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there is no cause for alarm. >> we are fully prepared to handle ebola. there is no cause for alarm. new yorkers need to understand the situation is being handled and handle well. melissa: the first nick to contract the disease in the u.s. is now free from the virus. >> i put my trust in god and my medical team. i am on my way back to recovery on how many others have not been so fortunate. melissa: let's bring in fox business's david asman, and the institute for new economic thinking. away he reacted when he went inside the doctor's apartment in new york city, cops went inside and took off their hazmat deer and we have this video, threw it into the trash.
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dave: they are saying these were not the same cops, these were cops on the perimeter. the cops that went in did park their stuff in hazmat bags that still. melissa: if they're wearing that they were trying to be protected from something. the thing is on the outside. dave: they are saying don't worry about the subway because this guy took a subway yesterday. you have to get close to people to get the disease. was anybody ever on -- has the mayor ever been in the subway? you cannot not that close to somebody in the subway. melissa: adam shapiro pointed out cdc guidelines that said don't take public transportation if you have been exposed. which one is that? is the subway okay? >> i take the subway every day and have no choice. i live in brooklyn which is bill deblasio's home, gray area. that was a while ago.
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i think you have no choice. you have to make rational assumptions. you can't just live your life like you are going to be -- melissa: when you watched last night, the governor was patting everyone on the back like we did a great job. >> a rational reaction. last night when this came across the end -- 300 on the dow this morning. just two weeks ago, right on this set, we were down 450 points. today, look at the markets. melissa: thank you for bringing back the money. bless you for doing that. thank you. >> the people are becoming a little bit more rational. a lot of people will start to call for travel.
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>> more news out of new york city after a man attacks police officers with an ax on a busy street in queens. his name is thompson. he swung a hatchet, as we said. more evidence pointing to this. unfortunately, another hit on the mayor here. he is the one ending something called stop and frisk. you think, if you had stop and frisk, i don't know. >> they have all gone up now as a result of that program being stopped. >> about 2000 murders. it has come down tremendously.
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>> if you ask anyone from the african american community. >> that is not the subject of the show right now. we are talking about seeing these copycats. this is the third one. on a national level, we worry about what is coming next. if this sort of the new normal. you are seeing a lot of new legislation being brought in. i am concerned of an overreaction. >> let's get back to the market. you win some and you lose some. microsoft crashing earnings. amazon takes a huge hit. anyone have a fire phone yet? no. >> a lot of people in europe use
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the no ps. they cannot afford to buy the apples. i tell you, for out of five people holding a new po phone. it was no ps opportunity. there has been some wonderful marketing. melissa: you are the one. you got one. >> what inspired you? >> maybe this cultlike behavior with people who buy apple phones. i do not know. >> it is not even halloween yet which means the holiday season is upon us. ramping up holiday higher.er la. the shipping companies are
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already warning consumers. no promises. >> we are so concentrated in buying -- [laughter] three days before christmas, amazon prime, i am told it will stop its three day shipping program. they will at least try to recommend it do that. a friendly reminder. >> the business opportunity of a lifetime. how many businesses are expanding this quickly. they hired 10,000 additional people. >> we have both economic slowdown and people waiting. we had a horrific weather. >> there were also the sales. do it now. >> so what. they know now.
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it will happen again. they are saying, you know, they do not know if they will be able to do it. general mills rolling out its new line. i do not know. a mixture of oats. a new version for healthier eaters is not any more nutritious. cheerios were already cardboard. i've got to say, my kids love it cheerios. my kids ate them, but, honestly, they actually admit to not making a more nutritional project. vitamin water had vitamins in it. the same people that want to double the protein.
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>> i am alive today because i ate cheerios. >> all hail the queen and twitter. she has sent out her very first tweets. are you ready? >> you know what i mean. is it me? is that a little anti-climatic? did you love it? >> she is a master of that statement. she is perfect for twitter. >> i am often called the dinosaur by my staff. i figured i was the last human being on the planet that did not have a twitter account. >> if you follow me on twitter, you know that we have a lot more fun. look, there it is.
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i was showing everyone how our printer was down. >> were you affected at all by the competition of the queen? >> not so far at all. so far, i am okay. the queen and i are good. thanks, guys. ebola we will speak to top medical professionals about the worst and best case scenarios. what does it mean for your money, the economies and yourself. more money is coming up. ♪ go ahead and put your bag right here.
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no detection of ebola in her system. new yorkers can go about their daily business. >> it cannot be transmitted through casual contact. they cannot be transmitted through airborne ways. you simply are not at risk. there is no reason for new yorkers to change their daily routine and anyway. part of that elite routine means riding the subway system. the fta put out a statement.
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the health commissioner here in the city it was asked a question about incoming patients, but, perhaps people coming from the three countries with ebola. the blood test may come back negative even though they have the virus which leads to ebola. melissa: what is the worst-case scenario for the nation? i want to talk about a lot of things that adam just talked about their. be calm. this is not as contagious as everyone thinks. i kind of want to retrace those steps. on the other hand, you have the mayor saying it is fine to be on
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the subway after this guy was on the subway. >> this patient was not responsible. he should have known better. to come here and really go to public transportation. it is a huge mistake. they need to look into this. the only problem in the subways is if you cough or sneeze there was no breach in the protocol. how did he get the virus? >> he came in and they took his
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temperature. to me, it seems like maybe that was not enough. they were not tracking him after that. at least three people were exposed that did not need to be. there were three other individuals that were not at risk. >> writes. they are not going to be able to catch every case. it will only catch people that are already systematic. the good news here is even though he was out of his apartment, out of the city, he was not symptomatic at the time. melissa: he goes to the boeing alley nights before he is symptomatic. he is sweating into the shoes he
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is sharing with other people. he is holding the boeing ball. >> we do not expect that there will be a risk for those people. he was not vomiting. he was not releasing other auto leaflets. >> everybody is emphasizing on fever. we know that fever, 75% of the time, is one of the symptoms. it is hard to imagine that wednesday night he was absolutely perfectly fine and then thursday night he gets sick. we need to be a little bit smarter about this. we need to caution people. make sure that you are not out there. when you come from the hot zone, you have to have debriefing. you have to be away from ever
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one for 21 days. if you will not follow these protocols -- melissa: you made an interesting point to me. is said the fact that winter is coming up and the holidays makes it different and even more serious. >> there are more studies that claim if this virus can survive longer in the cold temperature we have winter coming up. we have holidays. we have shopping. more crowds will come to new york city. we need to contain this virus before it starts getting out of control. melissa: i am sorry we have to cut you guys off. we have some breaking news. new comments coming out of the world health organization. molly. potentially many people exposed to that victim when she was traveling on a bus. the latest information.
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melissa: let me give you a quick check on the markets. another update. a volatile one on the dow.
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more than 100 points from its high to the low of the day. how is this for a flashback friday. my friend and costar from little house on the prairie. recipes inspired by moments on the show. check it out. we ate a lot of food on the show. it was all really delicious. what inspired you to do this book and share a lot of recipes? >> they said to me, do you know recipes? >> i said yes. i like fried chicken and meatloaf. >> and they were like you mean like prairie home cooking? >> the lightbulb went off. we sold a bunch of recipes. it became a book. >> i was looking through the recipes. they made me laugh. there was a wave from the
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future. we were both on where they came in to mrs. olson'sestaurant. they went to make it into a franchise. one of the things that they try to make on the episode was the fried chicken with the gravy which was one of the specialties. you have a fried chicken recipe in there. is it the same one? >> okay. it is kind of twofold. the character on the show actually was colonel sanders. that is kind of crazy. the fried chicken that we ate on the set, that is what we were eating. melissa: the recipe in your book is your own recipe.
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we ate a whole lot of it. >> we ate a lot of canned beef stew. i hate to tell you. melissa: i did not know that. [laughter] melissa: what is one of your favorite memories. >> it is so hard to narrow it down to just one. >> the fondest memories that i have are the ones where we were outside on the ranch and we were able to run and play. we were still like regular kids catching frogs. kind of being together. you know this. it is the one to grow up on. adam: it was a lot of fun. we love looking at the photos.
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i love going through and looking at your recipes. it is so fun to talk to you. congratulations and good luck. >> thank you. melissa: i will talk to you soon. we have a report out of washington state. a shooting at a school. you are looking at the video right there. as many as six people said to be injured. this is in washington state. this is breaking right now. we are watching for updates. we will be right back with more. ♪ new york state is jump-starting business with startup-ny.
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melissa: we've got some news breaking right now. we're getting reports of a shooting at a school in washington state. that is the live shot you're looking at now in your screen. as many as six people are said to be injured. in marysville-pilchuck high school in washington state. we also have lieutenant ralph peters. he's a fox news military analyst. thanks for joining us. we will get to our topic, which is the lone
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wolf converts that are seeing both here in canada, d.c. all across the country. i want to ask you about the situation that's unfolding as we see it here. in the break we were talking about this news. as it was happening and folks in our studio were saying it's happening more and more. is it? is that our perception. is it because we have television cameras everywhere or is it happening more often. colonel, go ahead. >> well, yes, absolutely. and we're prisoners of these events. look at what's happening right now. we have to cover this breaking news not a topic we planned on and it's important people want to know. there's an ugly circle game that goes on. whether it's jihadis or whoever this turns out to be. a punk shooter, a crazy person, we have to cover it. by doing so, we make them famous. so you get more copycats, whether
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they're islamist copycats and lone wolves or there's kids who think about of the other school shootings, the theater shootings, and they want their moment of glory. and we give it to them and there's nothing much we can do about it because people want the coverage. melissa: it's not just that the people want the converge, it's the media's responsibility. if you have a child, you want to know that this is going on so you can talk to your children about how to protect themselves. but i hear your point, in both topics we continue to have do you want events. as a result of what we're seeing on tv. (?) >> thanks for having me on. i don't want to say this attack had anything to do with radical islam. but let's point out something here, that we know isis is appealing to mentally disturbed and descraingd individuals the same people who commit these kinds of attacks.
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it would be irresponsible to say there is a direct tie. we have to recognize there are people like this in this country and isis is looking for them. melissa: let's move on to one, again, we're wondering is there a tie? the man with the axe in new york city. left two new york city police wound. police shot thomas in the bureau of queens after he repeatedly hit officers with an axe. but it was the third in person attack on people with uniforms. they haven't drawn any official ties to what happened in canada. but here's the concern, these are lone wolf attacksers on this man's facebook page, you know, he was embracing radical jihadis, if nothing else, they're identifying with what is goggles where what's going on in the world. maybe it's bringing out people who are already
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unbalanced and inspiring them to take action. how do you battle against that? >> it's hard. the lone wolves are the hardest to get that. the islamist terrorists still want to do these grand plots like 9/11. they have a lot of moving parts. but how do you get the guy. how do you find a guy who radicalizes himself in the basement. passively looks at jihadi websites. maybe never communicates with someone in the middle east. he has this website with jihadi slogans. is he a terrorist or not or not? you don't have a union card to be an islamic terrorist. melissa: at the same time, you can't go and follow or arrest or, you know, spend time tracking every single person that goes to and is interested in or tempted by these websites. fred, how do we deal with that? how do you balance those things? >> we need surveillance. we need tips from the
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public. we know many of these plots have been stopped because of tips from friends and family. suspicious activities. we've had tips from people in mosques of individuals who should not have been there. i'm concerned that some of the counter terrorism efforts that we've been engaged in under the bush administration surveillance of mosques that were pushing radical ideology, that has stopped under the obama administration. we have to look at our efforts to find these individuals and maybe resume some of these programs. melissa: all right. thanks to both of you. let's go to nicole petallides on the floor of new york stock exchange. i want to go another check on markets in spite of everything going on markets are holding up. nicole, what's behind the trade before? >> we're about 12 points off the highs of the day. what's interesting about the trade of the day. the trade we've seen all week this trade continues to show resill i can't even say. yesterday we were up over 300 points. (?) on news that we had
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dr. craig experience confirmed was ebola in new york city. (?) you just finished covering terrorism. that's been another story that we followed closely. and one we've been following constantly, which is slowing global growth. after four weeks of spelling, the dow, the nasdaq, the s&p, the russell, they're all higher this week. so great for the people are along the market. the dow is holding on 100 points. and led by procter & gamble. back to you. melissa: thank you so much. ebola in the office. just what can bosses do if they suspect one of their workers has been exposed? it is a sensitive issue. it's been asked. we'll drill down on the legal angle. plus, gucci has to go. farb northeast as dropping the brafned. too much branding? at the end of the day
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it's all about bling.
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melissa: i'm melissa francis. series is closing 77 of its stores. including many kmart locations. more than 5,000 people will be laid off by christmas. time when the companies are gearing up for seasonal promotions. pan don't worry ashares slumping today after fewer than expected tuned in last quarter.
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on the upside, the internet radio said its users listened to just shy of 5 billion hours of music. that is up from 4 billion. and gucci losing some of its glamour. sales dropped much more than expected. consumers are choosing items with less obvious branding. gucci is working on a strategy to appear more exclusive and less obvious. that is the latest from the fox business. giving you the power to prosper.
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melissa: we're keeping an eye on this shooting in high school. you're looking at marysville-pilchuck high school that is in washington state. six students are said to be injured there. the school is on lock down. after shots were fired, students had been evacuated. we'll bring you more details as we get them. the messenge emergence of ebola in new york city has left more questions than answered. he road the subway before testing positive for the virus. concerns continue to mount. what should you do if you think you have come in contact with an ebola patient? what should employers do to protect their workers? bruce toll began along with attorney paul. bruce, this is one of the questions we were
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asking in our morning meeting today, saying this doctor, he went to a hot zone. he knew he had been exposed not that he had it. he knew he had been around it. he came back to work. the hospital he worked at, had to have known he had come from a place why he had come in contact with bodily fluids with people with ebola. did they have a responsibility? are they liable if other workers and patients get sick now? what do you think, bruce? >> leaders and managers first and foremost have a fundamental responsibility to keep the workplace safe for their workers and for vendors and customers as well. so they certainly should have been on notice. and this is a matter of public health and safety. so, of course, it's -- it goes well beyond that workplace. for business leaders, this is a matter of emergency preparedness. it should be a signal to
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any business, what is your emergency preparedness process? does everybody know about it? melissa: paul, is the hospital where he works now liable because they had to know where he was coming from? should they have told him he's not allowed to come back to work before the 21 day period? >> this isve new world for employers. this disease is unlike any other. it's not like hiv. it's certainly not like cancer and many others. the things we'll have to see -- to answer your question, the employer has a responsibility as bruce said to the workers. if the employer knew this individual went to liberia, and came back and was servicing and dealing with patients, that's a problem. and the employer has to take action in order to deal with that. the employers would be relegated to workers' compensation coverage if they get sick on the job. they'll be limited to what they can do.
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an employer has to protect the workers, protect the public. melissa: let's talk about discrimination then. bruce, so you're an employer and you know someone -- say they're not a doctor they're coming back from a hot zone. are you within your rights to ask that person to stay home for a while or are you violating that person's right to work? >> i don't want to speak to the legal issues although i'm a lawyer. from my perspective, based on everything we know, look, imagine it's the flu. if you're somebody's boss and you have an employee who comes in with the flu. melissa: can you tell them to go home? >> you have a responsibility to the rest of the employees there to keep them safe, and i think absolutely it's appropriate to send an employee home with the flu because, you know what, he or she isn't going to do a lot of work anyway and they'll get everybody sick. melissa: paul, what about the school in vermont where they had a teacher who had been to texas and they told that she couldn't
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come to school because she had been to texas where they had ebola. can you get yourself in trouble for telling someone to stay home like that? >> i think an employer has to under these particular circumstances, the way this disease kills people, something has to be done. they'll be well within their rights to do something within their circumstances. melissa: i'll leave it there. we're heading into the last hour of trading. let's check in with cheryl. >> good afternoon, melissa. we had a lot of breaking news this afternoon. of course, we'll be monitoring that school shooting that happened out in washington state. get some more details right now. we know two of those students have been airlifted to seattle. we're looking at the latest issue in ebola and the crisis there. and that, of course, this new york city hospital, this manhattan doctor has tested positive. we got the medical a team to tell us what they believe should be done to stop the ebola crisis. they have the answers.
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and, of course, one of those guests is richard he's the former surgeon general of the united states. he's inextensively about the ebola crisis suspect as well as debbie from nyu school of medicine. both of them speaking throughout the day on what they think we need to be doing. we'll be keeping a close eye on the markets. we'll see how the numbers wrap up. we're up 111 points on the dow. this could be the first positive day for the market in five weeks and that's despite all the geopolitical news we've had breaking over the weekend, of course, what we've been dealing with in the united states with viedges violence and ebola. melissa: cheryl, thank you so much. money has been flying around the world. starting in japan where someone thought it was a good idea to build a nuclear power plant. right now near an active volcano. that is a fantastic
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idea. that volcano, just 40 miles from the plant is showing signs of erupting. just last month in a different part of the country, japan had its worse volleying disaster in nearly 90 years. over to sweden, the search for a suspected russia submanner has been called off. after seven days of copping coming the area, the officials say the mystery vessel has likely left swedish waters. there you go. we are still following that school shooting in washington state. security expert mike baker will join us with more on that situation. we'll be right back
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melissa: we have more breaking news right now on that shooting at marysville-pilchuck high school in washington. at least two students have been shot and they were airlifted to a
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hospital in seattle. that is what you're looking at right there. that is the helicopter that airlifted them from the school. and you can see there that i don't know if they've already been unloaded. we're looking at the helicopter as it's come in from that school. the school on s lock down. mike baker joins us now on the phone. mike, what is your initial reaction to this? >> well, i mean, everybody has that same reaction when you hear about another school shooting and you think about all the tragic incidents in the past. beyond that, you're hoping for the best in that situation. i know that gun control advocates don't want to necessarily hear this one of the thoughts is, well, frankly we know, we don't need anymore. that the way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to have a good guy with a gun on the scene and responding immediately. i mean, that is what it involves and takes. they're able to feed the
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access systems, the control systems that are in place whether it's the school or any other facility. we know the quickest way to try and resolve this is to have a response. melissa: we don't have a lot of details of what's happened in this situation as it's just unfolding before our eyes. one comment we were making earlier, it does seem this is happening more and more often. in fact in the area, you know, there was another school shooting in the region at seattle pacific university on june 5th where a gunman killed one disputant wound another. mike, is it happening more often? >> i mean, standard of carely, i don't know. that's beyond my pay grade. what i can say, the pervasiveness of the media, the instantaneous relay of information. the access to information, if it's not happening in reality more often, it certainly seems that way.
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and school shootings are about as bad as gets. regardless the number of fatalities, this always, it bounces people back around. undoubtedly it then stems back to that constant debate about gun control or how best to stop these sort of incidents. melissa: yes, and we looking at law enforcement in the area. there are students out in the parking lot right now. we saw a moment ago, law enforcement sweeping the area looking for other people. we have seen reports online and elsewhere in the media that the gunman is deceased. (?) we are not confirming that. we don't know. we're just seeing reports of that as people are leaving. mike baker, thank you. six years later, a hope and change hang over for millennials. why democrats are struggling to keep the under 30 crowd interested. more money, coming up.
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>> quick recap of events going on in washington right now. this is a shooting in marysville-pilchuck high school. two students were shot, airlifted to a hospital in seattle. the school is on lockdown, ambulances are surrounding the school, they're checking from room to room. we're keeping a very close eye on this. we're going to give you more details as we have them. less than two weeks before the midterm elections and democrat's problems are piling up, let's kick off with this one with millennials. the 18-34 age group no longer expected to caret party to victory like in previous elections. joined with national review's rich lowry, scott martin in chicago, and liza boyd of starbest partners. thank you for joining us. i'm not sure that was right. we'll keep going anyway. liza, with you, millennials, not carrying the weight for democrats? is that true? are they staying home or going
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republican? >> i think they are more focused on money issues with most millennials coming home after college. so the democratic issues are more focused on reproductive rights and things of that nature are not interesting to them anymore. cheryl: polls show republicans are tied with democrats among women. what do you think about that? >> i'm pretty surprised. now the democrats have kind of blown it with women over the last four years for certain. they made them a targeted audience, it's been a pandering position. would i go so far as to say there's binders full of them that vote republican? i'm not so sure. but like the millennials, seems like the democrats are losing grip on the demographic. >> rich, what do you think? >> i think the big thing that's happening here is in this midterm election, democrats are losing altitude generally. they're going to lose among every specific group you look at and, of course, it is young people, it is women, it's also
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old people and men. >> so liza, if it is true that women are split this time, republican/democrat, does it stick or a onetime thing? >> democrats have to change message and focus on the economic issues. that's what many women and moms are concerned about. >> yeah, scott, abc didn't cover the midterm elections for almost two months on world news tonight, abc world news tonight. didn't touch on it. what is that a function of? do you think people in general just don't care about politics? and it wasn't ratings and they didn't want to do it, or something else at work, what's your guess? >> that would be a shame if that's the case, melissa. this is a big part of time in the history of our country. they're doing their best impression of the new york jets, which is mailing it in. they lean left as it is, they have a soft stance on obama when it comes to israel and foreign policy. they don't like the way the outcome is going to be. >> spoken like an embittered
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jets fan. >> i'm a vikings fan, even worse. >> a lot of breaking news, we have to cut this short. a quick reminder about the dow as we go out here, it is up 108 points in spite of all the breaking news we have had today. market has held down. "countdown" starts right now. cheryl: all right, melissa, thank you very much. hello. i'm cheryl casone. monitor the breaking news out of washington state that melissa brought you. the school shooting. we'll bring you new details. covering the top stories of the day, that is ebola. mixed emotions on the topic of ebola. there's joy after the first american to catch the disease on u.s. soil walked out of the hospital. then she met with president obama. will we see new cases of ebola? in new york city after a manhattan doctor was diagnosed with the disease after treating ebola patients in africa. officials say the general public is not

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