purposely do a crappy j wit hoseho ores s the i think it's higher. >> i thk so, too. from a republican takeovr to a presidential d over, hi, evryone. i'm neil cavut midtermejvu, or is it? preside obama getti little ground after the party lo a lot of ground this past week. >> as presen i have a unique responsibily to make this town work. to eveone w voted, i hear you. for the two-thirds ofvoters who chose not to participate in the process, i hear yotoo. >> two-thirds a little zin anyway, a far cry from another democratic president 20 years ago, the verme week. >> i tink that have some

respsponsibility for it. i am the prident. i am the leader of the efforts thate have made in the last two years. and wtever extent that we didn't do wh the ppl wd us to do, they were not aware. i must bear my share of responsibility. i accept that. >> i must bear responsility. interesting. that led to a bipartisan party no matter what you think of bill clton. are we lking at the pty ending before we star ben stein,megan,dam and charlie. thiss the first time in a lg time everybody is here. >> whoo! >> all right. you know, i don't know, i that was such a gre ea. anyway, i'm kidding. charles, wh you keof this? theontrast was striking. hat you didn' get isthat

president obama overwhmingly won the to-thirds who didn't vote. that's the part youissed. >> why did h say that? you know? it was for no reason >> he's still chge. >> a >> bill clinton says it simplest for how it should be done. you would tink that if e president does care about his legacy just half as much as michael jordan talking smack about h golf game, you would think and hope, we't know. >there's no reason t think in the next two years that he, the administration is going to be different than the last six high partisan pusng liberal policies. no reason. he's going to have to wor wi oth people, accept something less than everything he wants d share responsibility for something, if it goes right or wrong. >> if you don't own up to being among the contributing factors -- >> why uld he do that?

>> exactly. you have to wonder, where do we go from here? >> the smart thing would be for him to compmise on a few basic parts of obamacare, dodd-frank, targeted tax cuts. the economy would grow. a problem in the jobs number i wage growth is crumby. we would be better. you know what? he'd probably elect hillary clinton president but he can't do it. they are talkin to him every day. he will not do it. from the grave. >>e haven't had the pleasure of your company in awhile here. you are sll a hater. allight, be stein, what do post the tuesday d wether the

night, it was -- this was the one thing he was clear on. it makes no economic sense, if

you look at the unemployment numbers, they are getting better. wages are still low. we have a real problem in this country with wage growth on the low end, bringing people in that work for peanuts, as charles said makes it worse. the demographic strategy of the democratic party was put to the test the other night and they lost. i wonder if they go this far, will they be able to win again in two years? >> very good point. >> i think, charlie, you are wrong on every count. >> thank you. >> first of all, business, all business want immigration reform. the reason ben talked about, we have a labor shortage. now, politically -- >> those guys doing all the work in california are making millions?

>> boehner can't control his own caucus on this. republican leadership wants immigration reform. if the president does this and the republicans fight him on immigration reform, they won't get the hispanic vote for 20 years. >> you really think hispanics want somebody to come in and take their job that is is willing to work? >> they want immigration reform. >> charles here is another thing going on. behind the heat. i think this is sort of opening on the part of the administration. i'll do this, but here is what i'll do for you. border enforcement is a big thing to you. i'll get more troops on the border. see if the federal government will pick up the tab. i think a number of republicans in that event would go along. >> i don't think enough will. i think -- i wouldn't be surprised how many line up behind ben on this one.

he might be nice to gop on this. the presumption that hispanics working and living here are okay with the border, i think that is starting to wear away more and more and more each cycle. i agree with charlie, the democrats had a wake-up call with hispanics, black and young people. they are overplaying their hand now. >> they won the groups, to be fair. >> but you know, i think people are waking up to realize that, you know, it's an economic message on tuesday. we are talking immigration reform. people want better wages. they don't believe the hype that 5.8% unemployment is great. huge problems of people dropping out of the work force. that was the talk or the vote, we want you to deal with the economy. he's going to divert to immigration reform. it's amnesty. >> we shall see. you voted. one group of stocks rallied big

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sacrilegious, anti-american. what do you think? >> anti-american? this is pure american. let me give you a list. i know where you're going with this. >> okay. >> toys "r" us open, serious, kohl's and macy's opening at 6:00 a.m. and it will save families. guess what? people don't want to be at your house. your food sucks and they want to be out shopping and about 8:00 somebody gets stabbed in the hand. >> and look at the tile. at the time. charles payne what do you think? >> part of it's true, and it is, listen, a lot of these companies outside of macy's are all in trouble. like a gambit. >> what time does the payne family sit down for the thanksgiving feast? >> you know what? i don't know what time we sit down but i never get up. so -- [ laughter ] >> okay. >> then you got to -- >> there's no way i would ever go shopping, but who cares? live and let live. what's wrong if you want to get

away from your brother, not see your brother like i do all the time? but -- get away from my wife? >> ah -- >> macy's, better than getting stabbed in the hand with a, to. >> what do you make of this? >> you know i was going to come on and say sacrilegious but i think, beautiful, wonderful, brilliant incredibly smart dagen convinced me. get away from our families. what the heck? what do they mean to us compared to saving 10 cents on sweater? >> adam, what do you think of that? >> i don't -- i'm dumbstruck, i don't know what to think about it. i would say it's not very kind to their employees to ask them to come in on thanksgiving afternoon. it won't make a difference in their sales either. a few extra -- >> 5 1/2 people. >> last year it did. a lot of the sales wasn't a matter of front-loading, did okay and. ied on through the season. there's is a madness to this. >> they could eat leftovers after they get done work. >> if you worked at jcpenneys,

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