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this before the verdict wasen. thank you for being with us. goodnight, from new york. neil: can the keystone be kept out of our minds? we are suddenly pushing for this now. and let me just say that i wanted to meet a guy who is doing the white house health care headaches. and we do you see what we found. and the whole world racing for space and we are just sitting tight. and it's one thing to knock off are apple stores, read another to knock off a military jet. almost to the exact look.
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on the real life-and-death consequences of the real-life hack attack. the real "cavuto" starts right now. welcome, everyone. i'm glad to have you. the key steinfeld neil: the democrats moving to push a vote on the keystone pipeline. word is that he thinks that they are jumping the gun and said that the state department study on the matter and let him work in due course. the same one that has been studying this for six years, that's virtually barack obama's entire presidency and the state department is still studying this matter six years. and it took a little bit more than a year to build the empire state building. one year and three months to build the pentagon. two years for the chrysler
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building. the hoover dam took five years. and the only thing that we could find it took as much time to build at the state department has been building its case for or against the keystone pipeline, the tallest building in the world in dubai. and that is a very impressive building. this is six years and no building. so why is a democratic leaning up session finally moving? catherine has more on why they are suddenly in a hurry for keystone vote. >> you know, this is a example of how easy it is for anyone, politicians in particular, to trip themselves into believing that they are serious principled people right up until the moment, though it's not convenient anymore. opposition to the keystone isn't convenient anymore for the
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democrat. neil: obviously this has more to do but less with what is going on in dc. >> okay, basically we have a situation where all of a sudden the democrats are not trying to appeal to a broad notion of who the democratic voter is nationwide and that person as opposed to keystone, they support the president and suddenly they are looking at a much more specific person that is the typical voter in louisiana. and it turns out that they kind of like boiled down her. neil: so the senator mary landrieu would benefit from this. and by the way, if you have that is, each the darn thing. you could argue that this goes nowhere because now you have a situation where the president is so against what they are trying to do here, the state department continue to run its course and nothing really changes in a lame-duck session, but it gives mary landrieu the chance to vote
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for something and she gets her rear end out of the fire. is it enough to save her job? >> i have no idea whether it's enough to save her job, but i know that congress has long operated as if this thing is enough to save their jobs. the vast number of this throughout history has been this kabuki voting where you go through all the motions and everyone says oh, it's a beautiful performance in the we really believe that you tried, whether or not anything is going to happen is an entire separate question. neil: here is my prediction. and as you know. the state department comes up with the recommendation to go ahead and build this thing. and it staves off all of this, takes the pressure off the president, saying that i am seeding to this study that says it's going to be okay. so the heat is off of everybody. what do you think we might. >> that's always a possibility that the president was keeping
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open and i was waiting for these bureaucrats to, you know, finish this delivered study and then i will of course be guided by their very good and partial recommendation unless i don't feel like it at that moment because politics say that that wouldn't be expedient. this is how it works in washington and keystone is no exception. neil: catherine, thank you so much. always good. go to facebook and tell me if you think that it is a little odd that democrats are clamoring to pass this after six years. it might not be unusual at all, but it's like just because he's caving on keystone release the keystone vote, do not assume that here he read it growing olive branches to the right. news tonight that he is set to a top party vote, and it means
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that she will be more prominent. as the president sets the postelection tone, that's music to the ears of liberal groups. he is still set to sign an executive order for millions of those illegals. someone what all this means. it sounds like they're taking a harder charge to the lat. >> thank you for having me on, you're absolutely right. just the other day we heard harry reid saying that he was willing to work with republicans and yet actions speak louder than words. and he has worked with these liberal groups working to give them a spot at the table, a few if you will, during these negotiations with the new congress. neil: very few voted, record low turnout, they didn't say the same in 2006.
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be that as it may, this game is played and they seem to be saying that this is really not the will or sentiment of americans, that we just miss cast the message. will that resonate or is the party itself that risk of driving so hard to the left that they lose everybody else. >> that is a great point and just the other week americans went to the polls and they promoted republicans and yet that senator elizabeth warren, was given by promotion by her own party. and they weren't far enough to the left. and this will enable them.
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>> if you are the clintons, there are folks that say we need to push this message, we need to get rid of regulations to spur economic growth. but elizabeth warren, given that spot at the table now, she's going to have that megaphone and she's going to hit that harder and it looks like democrats are elevating her and it steps up a nice tension within the democratic party that is going to play itself out over the next two years. neil: kevin, thank you so much. tracy byrnes is not at all surprised that democrats haven't changed even in the face of these midterm votes. she's with our all-stars now including liz macdonald and others. so let's talk about that. there has to be some sort of a strategy. maybe double counting, to the left because republicans are going to keep pushing their thing and we are going to keep pushing our thing and the next two years nothing.
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>> as far as the democrats are concerned, they know where wages should be, they know that the wealth should be redistributed on the money, we know that we should have all universal health care, to add more regulations because we can't think on our own and they are going to double down on us and i think it's going to be more in-your-face than ever before. neil: how does wall street responds regardless? >> i think of this is built into wall street and wall street figures another 26 more months to go like this and that's not actually bad. when you look at the economy struggling along in the big issue is for the lower and middle class and the corporate economy and wall street will will do just fine. trillions of dollars of cash, they will raise dividends, you are seeing the split in a society that's going to be a big issue for the 2016 election. >> the white house and the other two as well.
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but there is something that should not be deadlocked or drag out for 26 months. >> that's what the voters said. they said that the priority has always been economic growth and jobs. and what is happening, i think, this is a teachers faculty lounge is what can we do to get these children the gop, to overreact to make this will like we are going to debate them, to change the subject and a controversial way so you can change the media narrative and so it may come off as lame. and you know, they are not focusing on the right priorities.
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even though they said that this was worse. >> humility has power, self-correcting has power and this will be a historic mistake if the president doubles down on antagonism. it's like hearing a hangover with more of the same. >> the statistics are on their side, and it seems to work for them in the past. >> at the end of the day there are three or four big issues that pull people when they go to vote. it's women's rights, the freedom of choice, it could be gay marriage. but it didn't have this because of the midterm election and the president said that. his point is that the next time they will come out. >> the gop says the house has
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jobs bills that they haven't rejected. the house has put forward this. >> you realize that here he read won't be stopping us from getting through. the president then is stopping that? >> yes come and, and i don't understand why the media hasn't reported. >> one of your friends says that the president will sign this. neil: rubber walls. that's interesting. >> let's throw the molotov cocktail inner. >> signing executive orders. >> you know, this makes me nuts because they were not meant to replace laws. [talking over each other] >> you know, i'm on your team.
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neil: okay, panel. >> you asked me if my opinion and i will give it. >> chris christie was the main player of the republican party. >> but if he finishes out, our president, if he finishes this with the executive order, he has nothing to show for himself. >> i'm surprised that they are moving so far to the left so soon. >> i think it is make the gop sedate them. >> i'm going to start plagiarizing. neil: okay, when we come back in our business but, the one big thing that could stop keystone is not the white house. but first, the soundbite that keeps coming back to fight the white house. >> lack of transparency is a huge political advantage.
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>> recently calling the stupidity of the american voter or whatever, but that was really critical to get them to take this path. >> you will see. >> it's a clever exploitation of the lack of economic understanding of the american voter. neil: and it just keeps on coming. my next guest started it all. rich was among the first to point out these comments.
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he is a financial advisor deciding to do some digging of his own. and he joins us now on the phone right now. and so you were getting wind of these comments, can you explain how that happened to . >> about a year ago you had this doctor on your show and that is when the architects started showing up. and it was just when i had lost my insurance. and so i was looking at these architect people. i got to one architect and then the other and we have this all over the place. and it is all out there. >> this was largely clear. you were speaking to groups and
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those that were crafting these names, seen as the architect even though nancy pelosi and others say they don't remember him and i know very early on he was one of those explaining this and explaining how to pitch this. and i knew that he was the person put out to lane if positive and he is a key architect. >> i believe that he was raised on his own words. everything i know about the situation is really from him. there so much video out there. and he was going back and forth to washington and you can see him there. he describes himself as an important player in the. so it's right there.
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neil: are there other revelations that are going to be made? are there more coming out? even to the point of discussing strategy more like building on this notion that stupid americans will believe anything you tell them, keep it sort of lost in the weeds so they don't understand what is going on? >> i don't think i have any shock video, but i think that if you listen to the exploitation of the american people, i think that we didn't get that quite right. but he talks about the cadillac test. and i think people need to be aware and this is all from him, that the test is even though people think it is for the high insurance plans, it's kind of designed to test were more more people than he talks about how they're going to it really helps
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the ceo numbers. he recognizes how important is is for bringing people into this. neil: that's interesting. you can teach us all a thing or two about how to do our jobs. they slept on these higher end health care plans which invariably are like the alternative minimum tax groups that include virtually everybody. and that is why he was referring that is the extra revenue that could come from this, because it was more than just a tax on the premium health care plan. it would be eventually generated from other plans. so why are his comments different from any of these comments? >> 47% will vote for the president no matter what. they were with him and they will defend him. neil: okay, i want to keep comparing and contrasting that. because i don't think that you can really emphasize it enough. the left jumps all over mitt romney for saying what he said
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that night. and ashley pratt is wondering where is the fair and balanced outrage from the media and what group are you saying now. >> i know they are not, neither am i a. because the only people in the only news stations that are covering this is fox news. so kudos to you guys were exposing the scandal on the left. and reports came out that showed a little networks out there are not covering this. just like nancy pelosi dead and look at what happened governor romney when he made comments at a private event. it made him look arrogant and insensitive and these are disrespect will to the american people as a whole when this is being pushed and shoved down our throats. but this is christmas come early, the fact that these have been found, these tapes have been found, it shows the arrogance of the left when it comes to creating policies and i think it's beneficial for the
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american people and also that they know best, which is showing yet again that they believe that they are correct in all the video. the premiums have gone up, it's hurting americans in small businesses, which are the backbone of the american economy. so kudos to the former guess that you had on who expose the truth. neil: everything that he was saying was actually right. and you could defend a lot of people, but he was close to having people not pay income taxes. so what happened here? all very good points. if you very much, ashley. in the meantime, this asteroid landing getting lots of buzz in europe, but not a lot of buzz from buzz, who's asking what about us. the second man to walk on the moon on how the world has us seeing stars. and wait until you hear what china is knocking off how much money do you have in your pocket right now?
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that doesn't look a lot like the f-35 plain? almost identical? and that's probably because they are. they achieved it on a lockheed martin sub contractor. and they built the thing and they bragged about it and showed it. enough is enough. the general, i don't know. but my goodness, what do you make of this? >> it's astounding. the fact is that this is the largest in the history of the world, not only in military areas and commercial areas, they had taken what this was and now they are calling it the j-31, but it's a duplicate except they
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made it a twin engine aircraft and they got the plan, as you pointed out. and they didn't reverse engineer this. >> even some inattention said that looks very familiar. i guess what i'm wondering is, obviously they have no shame and they continue to mention this and they never denied this and they continue hacking away. we have to do something for our own security. but apparently we can't. why is that? >> i think that we can there is a unit that we know called 61398 in shanghai that is involved with this. we know the exact location and we know a lot of the software techniques that they are using and etc. and we could counter them and i think that we have to be very aggressive and it could be dangerous.
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they are into the electrical grids and a host of other things and they are into the banks and if we don't get an agreement on this, we are going to have a major problem not only with the commerce but with our military. somehow it didn't come out this way when they were flaunting the flight of the j-31 in front of obama, just like they did with the jade other plane, the model 20, several years ago. they are not hiding this. they're doing it right whiteface neil: that's a little steeper than copying phones. thank you. meanwhile, give rand paul a hand. when i said this on fox news, let me just say that you guys went on a texting tailspin. so what are you saying? that hillary clinton is too old?
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next opportunity. because at scottrade, our passion is to power yours. neil: and what is the deal with rand paul and his comment against hillary clinton. >> one what in the world are you getting at, senator reed why does it seem that you're only getting at with hillary clinton? your own father was practically popeyed a couple of years ago when he was running for president and you have done more damage than chris christie could shaking up 8000 ice cream cones and throwing them in critics spaces. for someone that talks about
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expanding the base, you can say something so debasing and cheap. neil: that got some of you going as well. the very next day after these marks, someone higher up was not happy. and he was very disappointed. he says your rant was uncalled for and plain stupid. i understood what rand paul meant and why didn't you reign well, i understand that he made it very clear to send a subliminal message that hillary is not up to another campaign. judy said hillary is no reagan or churchill no matter what you think. and you are no one whatsoever. well, i wasn't comparing her to either. just that she shouldn't be and wasn't be judged by lines on her face is that of substance of their policies. and another says you are becoming more stupid. john says stop defending that
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communist, hillary. my vote is that you will probably vote for her. ben, you make a shallow point brilliantly. and another says that there should be a certain department of politics and rand paul just crossed it. your finished at fox now after an attack on michele bachmann, and now this nonsense. and look at the bright side. msnbc will hire you. and another says there's always wal-mart, you would be a great reader. and jackson says i applaud your strong and your bosses do not. well, they know very well that personal attacks are wrong and they have seen it happen to them and relate to what i see here. and no one in my nearly 20 years at fox has ever told me to say
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anything. and they must know that i'm on meds and everything else and maybe it's because i don't care. and another says i've never heard you say in nasty word about chris christie. well, i have, especially when he told the critics to shut up, i thought it was uncalled for and to me the argument. and another in chicago says i never hear you say anything about republican mainstreamers ever. and you really dhe show often enough to comment about the big bailouts under bush. >> with the policies to frankenstein, beast can't be killed. frankenstein was a monster. this is just monstrance. >> we have committed money to rest during. >> we have to commit even more. >> this is ridiculous, ridiculous.
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>> or maybe there was a little exchange with michele bachmann. >> george bush did the same, congressman. a waste of time. >> okay, what we need to do is talk about impeaching the executive branch. neil: no matter how many times i show this, people are still in their minds that it's only one-way. and i heard he said, it doesn't matter. in another says i watched you for years, i used to be a big fan. going off on rand paul, you along with many others at fox news are frightened by the tea party movement and you are able i know in a progressive who is masked differently. well, i'm not pro-mainstream. debate issues that are not worth debating. and i said the same when the left went over chris christie and i said the same repeatedly
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of the right going after anyone based on something so stupid as physical appearance. and another says i'm so disappointed about your comments on rand paul. i wish i had a dollar for every time i said that i love neil cavuto. but i think the were unfair about the comments concerning hillary. and dean says, you have launched a ridiculous attack on rand paul and it seriously needs to stop. you sound like you're working for you. and since paul is not an establishing gop puppet, he took the opportunity to take a cheap shot like the one you accuse him of. if your idea of this is a cheap shot, you should fire the person who wrote the comment that you read at the close of her show today. and guess what, i am not so
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there. and tom says i know that you are in this chris christie camp and it shows way over the line in need of an apology. way to alienate a third of your viewers. and the only camp the nymen is for progress on the real issues. not for attacks that prevent us from addressing the issues. and sarah says you're still clueless. okay. john says i think that you love the sound of your own voice. and you've written before, john, so i think that you love the sound of your own e-mails. and alan says that i do like your style, you are very much her own man. i remember you calling out democrats and republicans when they stepped over the line, keep looking out. and that's pretty much my only agenda. we all deserve a better discourse. and lucy says get over yourself,
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melon head. he just called me a melon head. who is the one taking cheap shots? and it's not a mallon, it's like a big orange. go to facebook.com and let me know what you think. it's very important that i come out on the side of treating each other decently. and this is something that i know from experience that life is fleeting and it can be challenging, we are here a short amount of time. while we are here, let's not argue. and let's not call people insulting things. it demeans their argument because it demeans them. raise the debate and change the way we are. meanwhile, according to nancy pelosi, republicans ignore the poor. >> these people you talk about are invisible. in the republican caucus is indifferent to them. invisible and indifferent, this
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neil: okay, to hear many liberals tell it, conservatives just hate the poor. since you heard about charitable giving all day, i want to raise the point in the country. this is measured by sheridan come donated to charity. compare that to the bottom 7%, they all voted for president obama. that means i'm not saying that they are both callous, but it does make you think. all i know is that when i meet with liberal friends, i'm not just going for their wallet. what do you make of this amax.
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>> you're saying that liberals have tea racks arms. [laughter] to i see what you're saying. you have this message about compassion and charity. >> and i don't want to save their godless. and it definitely seems like the liberal community excuse the government as a way of getting money out the door as a way to fund individual is. >> they burst into flames if they walk by a church. but the idea is that democrats are more kind and generous, but the republicans are greedy and uncaring, this is proof that i was a that the survey here doesn't capture volunteering
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time spent. this is dollar amounts given. so it looks like the gop state are doing pretty good when it comes to charity. >> i think it's different types of charity as well. christians, catholics, others as well. and so we give and they give to different individuals. and the environmental movement is part of this as well. and i think that they also donate their own money to organizations to help. >> what is the per capita income in those states, it's a lot higher and so the percentage of this is also higher as well and it makes you think that the irony of the profiling. >> are getting more money to get
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it out of love and. >> that's exactly right. when we come back, going to space. instead, it's these guys. >> making another try. you have to tell us more about you have to tell us more about this so i can reach ally bank 24/7, but there are no branches? 24/7 it's just i'm a little reluctant to try new things. what's wrong with trying new things? feel that in your muscles? yeah... i do... try a new way to bank, where no branches equals great rates.
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in to rush into space, but it seems like the latest images landing on the comment, the first in history. many are trying to make history by setting their eyes on the skies. so wondering why her ahead-skie. so wondering why her ahead are up in the clouds especially government lies. what do you make of this? >> well, what i think about it is that each space agency has other plans with a focus on. i'm not sure what nasa is focused on. the ultimate objective has been stated by several presidents as martyrs. and we don't see that much headway in that direction. i just came from hawaii at a conference where the pacific nations got together on the big
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island and talked about how this could be used to support missions to the moon and i go to those missions because i've been there and done that. but i'm not the president who says that. neil: no one does. under administrations, we are slowly winding down in some ways. i'm wondering what is the next big thing if it's not mars which seems like an obvious choice. is it the europeans and what they are doing? everyone seems to be doing something and we are not. >> instead of really looking at an objective and a time and a plan, the most in orton that i think is to have a plan and not
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just to have to go there and come back if that is of the planet. but i've been working on a plan rather than a mission. that plan involves sequential evolution of pioneering exploration. >> you think that we will ever get to that .2 that it might be the europeans pursuing this, maybe even the japanese getting more involved, but it won't be us? you fear that that could be the case? >> i certainly hope not. and every effort i can make is driven by american leadership. and we have a little bit of that now, but we don't have a firm base. that firm base can be by leading the other nations to the moon and by not competing.
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by sending our people to land on the moon, we have done that. and we can bring nations together providing that we don't compete with them and that's especially true considering china. if anything, we need to help china and i volunteered to help china in their human landing missions. neil: we will see what happens. it is an honor, you are a gentleman american hero and we thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. neil: (receptionist) gunderman group. gunderman group is growing. getting in a groove. growth is gratifying. goal is to grow. gotta get greater growth. i just talked to ups. they got expert advise, special discounts, new technologies. like smart pick ups. they'll only show up when you print a label
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prices. oil under 70 bucks a barrel. four-year low. this continues as gas goes lower and lower. that means it may be too low to make all this drilling with the keystone worth the effort. wouldn't that be a kick in the oil -- >> imagine. this is a hard sell for the president now. it used to be, we need our energy independence. we need to get ourselves off foreign oil because prices are too high. prices are low, the case doesn't hold. i don't think the president will see us as energy i independent. >> if we get involved in this, the guys behind it, aren't interested because it's not cost effective. >> the smartest thing for the president would be to put it through now because when the saudis make that reversal we'll be well-positioned. that's what good leadership requires here. >> we should get it done now. it shouldn't be part of a ploy to get mary landrieu reelected?
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lou: imagine if we had done it six years ago. neil: opportunistic, but very good. >> low oil prices will cure themselves. iea is saying that oil prices can be expected to go up. we need to get ahead of that and get that thing filled. >> good leadership and we haven't seen that. so don't expect logic to play in this game here at all. it's all about the president and his environmental movement, and i think he'll play to them in the end. >> can i make a quick prediction, president bush in 2006, you can see the fatigue, he sort of put a pass in rebutting his critics. i think barack obama will play the fourth quarter very hard. neil: on this and other issues. i think you're right the about this. you can find us on facebook.com. facebook will be big like twitter. in the meantime, that will do it it here. we'll be monitoring
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these committee assignments coming out of washington for for the senate. it will be a very different world. and we'll spell it out for you tomorrow. in t meantime, stay well. stay safe. see you tomorrow. stossel: how many of you guys with women have learned that no means yes? is limbaugh an evil sexist after all everyone knows. >> no always means no. >> but maybe it doesn't. >> so that means no or does that mean try again in a minute. >> try again in a minute. >> i agree. try again in a minute. >> what is consent for sex. could a app help. >> just launch the app. >> everyone should have to sign a consent form like this one. >> is the new pick up line will be, oh, baby check that box. >> my producer found many students who thought this was reasonable. >> just to make
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