without further adieu, we turn things over to melissa francis. "money" starts now. melissa: thank you so much. another day, another obamacare insult. gruber-gate rages on and for me it is getting personal. shake up u.s. postmaster service. female leads organization first time ever, i want to know why isn't it me! my exclusive interview with the postmaster general patrick donahoe. it is just minutes away. i want to know why i didn't get the job. it's a bird, it is a plane, the government spying on you why whether you like it or not. one massachusetts town looking to ban the sale of tobacco products of the we hear from the small business owner fighting back because even when they say it's not it is always about money. melissa: the controversial keystone bill is off to the senate after getting the stamp

of approval from the white house just last hour. meanwhile president obama is doubling down on his opposition to the bill. take a listen. here with fox business, fox business senior correspondent charlie gasparino. we also have "barron's" jack hough and james freeman of "the wall street journal" i think we can all imagine what he said. that is not a big deal. >> i watched what he said. melissa: wait. let's play it. no, we don't have it now? okay. >> part i heard, which i thought was absolutely astounding was when he dismissed the issue by saying, it is canadian oil. melissa: right. >> then he basically suggested that, only canada benefits from a huge pipeline running through the united states that takes oil not just from canada but also from the bakken shale in the u.s. down to refineries on the gulf coast. thousands of jobs along the way, building this thing. melissa: what is amazing, it is another obama lie. much like we're going to get to

a little later in the show. oil is fungible. anywhere it is sold lowers price all around the world. >> right. another economic stupid statement that he is has made. media lets him get away with it. simple supply and demand. increase supply. demand stays stable, all things being equal the price should go down and that is what is scary about put obama. i does this every single time. i will say this again and again and hillary clinton is most uncomfortable here involved with ridiculous economic debate. you know what? she wants economy to get better so she can win. melissa: go ahead, jack. >> not transporting that oil by pipeline, what are you doing? putting it on trains to refineries. those are worse for the environment. we deserve a little more coherent explanation what is wrong with this pipeline. melissa: details emerging of secret u.s. spy program that targets americans cell phones. that means you. a report revealing the government is using planes to mimic cell towers to know where your phone is and exactly who it

belongs is. everybody always knows where your phone is, charlie. >> they have a full-time tap. >> cia knows i looked what oscar madison in the odd couple used to like to eat. goop malange. cia knows that right now. melissa: james, what do you think the cia knows -- >> comment on that? melissa: let's leave that. >> justice department, this is a, i think should give us a level of fear that personally i didn't have the about nsa thing. the reason is because there are bad guys in the world. nsa has not been politicized. the justice department has been highly politicized under this administration. so i think everybody, even national security conservatives are probably going to look at this kind of issue, and say, let's rein it in. let's investigate it. see where it comes from. >> did you guys think they were actually doing this anyway? melissa: called dirt box. >> dirt box? melissa: right. comes from the name of the company that made the device

drt, digit ral receiver technology. it is from boeing. boeing declined comment on the story. they can ping off your phone and know exactly hour. >> feel like a lot of people reading will say, we live in a world with a lot of people trying to do harm to americans. i'm not doing anything wrong. if they want to tap my phone, move on. melissa: how does it go from there to all of a sudden you're in divorce proceedings and you're a lawyer wants to go ahead and subpoena records see where you were having an affair, where were you? idea of tracking you all the time, it is not just bad guys every time. >> where the tinfoil helmet. melissa: my phone does. i will wrap my phone. >> any sort of kudos, i do give him some kudos we are now know how much the government can get of our private lives. i think having that debate, that he started is a very, very good thing. melissa: if pimco didn't have enough to worry about already looks like some institutional investors are fleeing the firm along with the bedbugs. charlie gasparino is here with details. >> this is after bill gross

leaving. what we know about pimco the executives in there are bracing for billions, tens of billions of dollars to leave in january. why is that? that is the date when institutional investors can start to yank nair money outs posed to retail investors invest in the real return fund, gross's old advisory firm. mimic of account they can put in is $100 million. think about that is $100 million can be whacked out on everybody that pulls money out. they're take talking billions of dollars. pimco from what i understand is working around the clock essentially to prevent a deluge coming out. this is pretty big. january is the time. melissa: either of you guys want to react to that? >> the business model after bill gross is be more conservative, stick close to the edges and make money but bond yields are so low it is not worth it to pay somebody big money. >> that is one of the challenges for alley yawns, how do you

manage his exit. there was weird behavior, fund was starting to struggle. they paid enormous price as people reconsidered pimco investments letting him leave that way. tough way but this is -- >> you wonder why people, why they care -- by the way $100,000. my mistake. that 100 million is minimum investment. we'll deal with that late. i wonder why superstar managers matter that much? shouldn't performance matter? it does matter. the name -- >> three years of performance that then -- >> last two years. >> wentdown hill. at what appointment do people leave? melissa: postmaster getting first female chief. it is not me! who do i write to. patrick donahoe is retiring and ceo meagan brennan is getting top job. i was campaigning for a while. there are good businesses. it is prime turnaround. bring in private equity. whack out the bad businesses.

get rid of unions. >> get rid of unions, huh. melissa: i think you have to. only way to do it. too many legacy costs. you have to go in. turn around opportunity in there. we'll have the postmaster coming up exclusively later on in the show. >> someone that works for the post office? melissa: patrick donahoe is leaving. he knows. there are booed package delivery is good. >> congress and unions continue to run it despite his presence there. he probably had enough. in terms of a turn around, maybe with the change in senate control, maybe they allow you to start doing things like get rid of saturday delivery. melissa: i kind the doubt it. >> i doubt it too. melissa: millions of recalls and five deaths laters u.s. is investigating japanese airbag maker takata. the airbags can explode hurling shrapnel inside of the car at people. takata execs testify in front of the senate next week. tough story, jack. >> it is another case of a manufacture you are that has seemed to have not been quick

enough in acting on known issue with its part. it is really trickling down to a lot of big auto manufacturers. they have to do costly recalls in a year when ford took a huge expense on recalls. gm is obviously, its earnings have been shattered this year by recalls. this is a big issue this year. melissa: walmart protests turn into a stint in jail for 23 people. what started out as sit-in of 30 at los angeles area walmart, turned into demonstration blocking traffic. forced police to make arrests when they refused to move. what do you think about this one? >> as someone who has been on the strike line with my dad in the old days i applaud people's right to go and strike. i will say this -- melissa: you stood on the strike line? >> my dad used to let me skip school. melissa: really. >> that is true. melissa: explains a lot. >> when you disrupt traffic, when you make miserable for other people it is one thing to have a strike. another thing to disrupt business, disrupt people's lives. when those idiot kids were

bicycling in new york en masse, couple years ago, some sort of environmental protest? melissa: yeah. >> they created one of the most hazard does situations. melissa: i remember that. >> they invited terrorists to basically do something while cops were trying to keep law and order in midtown. they should go to jail. when you go to jail, you see how nice it is in jail. not the place you want to hang your hat on. melissa: jack, what do you think? >> walmart, you reap what you sow. walmart can't find any growth because low income consumers are hurting. melissa: come on. >> guess who those are? they work at walmart. >> shoppers want low prices. >> this is like mcdonald's. >> they pressured mcdonald's. mcdonald's is going to more automation and have less workers. now they're after walmart's like it is walmart's job to make sure everybody can have a job. melissa: if you don't like the wage you can quit. millions of people want your job. you don't have to do it. >> i think minimum wage should be brought up to where it should be before it fell behind. melissa: thanks, guys. vladmir putin bringing strange

party favors to a summit, stationing warships off the coast of australia. plus the media running scared from gruber-gate, including one of my former employers. i guess stephen colbert and me from here on out. smart money coming up next. >> stupidity of the american voter. professor gruber just delivered a death blow to obamacare in what i'm calling the, gruber film.

>> very clever, you know, basic exploitation of the lack of economic understanding of the american voter. american voter is too stupid to understand the difference. basically, calls the stupidity of american voter. melissa: straight from the horse's mouth, jonathan gruber telling you that the architects of obamacare think you're stupid and most importantly, they are absolutely counting on your lack of economic understanding. they aren't the only villains in this story though. they are also depending on the liberal media to help them cover up the truth. so far nbc, abc, "the l.a. times" and associated press and others, have been only too happy to comply.

those outlets have not even mentioned the video evidence, from jonathan gruber. it is shocking. but it actually doesn't surprise me. when i was at cnbc, i pointed out to my viewers that the math of obamacare simply didn't work. not the politics by the way. just the basic math. and when i did that, i was silenced. i said on the air, that you couldn't add millions of people to the system and force insurance companies to cover their preexisting conditions without raising the price on everyone else. i pointed out that it couldn't possibly be true that if you like your plan you can keep it. that was a lie. and in fact millions of people had their insurance canceled. as a result of what i said at cnbc, i was called into management where i was told, that i was quote, disrespecting the office of the president by telling, what turned out to be

the absolute truth. this fox business, is the only network, and fox news, not complicit in the campaign to keep you in the dark. don't trust the other guys. i can tell you first-hand, they are willing participants in the campaign to keep the economic truth from you. don't let them do it. joining me now with reaction, media expert and fox news media analyst howard kurtz. howard, thanks for joining us. does my story surprise you? >> only the fact that it was so blatant that you were called in and told you're disrespect the president. we're supposed to aggressively cover policy debates like obamacare. by the pages of "the new york times," and newspapers still have not covered this and, we're on day five of what we call here, gruber-gate and there is still a partial blackout. cbs and "washington post" caught up realized this is a real story. but the rest of them not so

much. melissa: why do you think that is? i remember telling people about this at the time, that i was told, i was quieted saying you are disrespecting the office of the president. why do you think media outlets don't want to cover this? are they true believers? do they think their viewers don't want to hear it? what is it? >> i'm not somebody who runs around crying bias in a crowded theater but there is really no other explanation. sometimes, television, limited time on broadcast networks there are other stories that dominate, nobody in america has ebola anymore. there is no excuse there. either sub down schussly, rationalizing who is this guy, jonathan gruber, he was paid $400,000 by the obama administration to consult on obamacare or trying to protect the president. i can't come up with another explanation. melissa: yeah. >> if you originally thought this doesn't really grab me, it reached fever pitch. members of congress are talking about it. white house is being asked about it. that's news. melissa: i want to bring in charlie gasparino, he was at cnbc as well.

are you surprised by my story? >> i quite frankly am surprised. i, listen i'm not surprised by liberal bias. i worked in the mainstream media throughout my career. i'm right of center. i never hello my feelings about, devote day of the free markets, never held back on that. i seen the way it works, usually as howard says, a lot more subtle. i know this i know mark hoffman runs cnbc. i think he is a decent guy. the dick hogan, runs news operations, decent guy. here is one of chilling aspects working in the mainstream media. when i was at "newsweek" and exit polls were in and george w. bush lose to john kerry. people doing high fives in the newsroom. that is one. there was a thing, at cnbc, right after the elections when president obama first took office, markets getting crushed, markets were scared about obama-nomics ability to lead. tim geithner didn't lend a lot of courage and confidence in the markets. we as network started talking

about that. no sooner did we talk about that, jeff immelt the head of ge owned cnbc at time called a meeting of senior people. mostly anchors. didn't call me, thank god. basically had a talk, a discussion about whether cnbc was being fair to the president. we should point out that ge got a lot of largess, received a lot of largess from the obama administration over the years. now did they tell you during this, did they tell the people during this meeting, go easy on obama? no. there is a chilling effect when your boss calls you in, says, not just your boss, the head of ge, everybody is significant around and you're saying, oh, are we being fair to the president by pointing out that his economic theories make no sense or whatever we were doing? and you know that is the mainstream media. you know people attack fox all the time and we give the other side all the time? >> even if you want to argue the gruber comments are not very important or you want to challenge his economics fine,

but cover the story. melissa: yeah. >> head in the sand approach i find inexcusable. >> what do you think of calling people in a room and saying, are we being fair to the president? does that, does that strike you? you came from the newspaper business. i did too. you worked at post. i worked at "wall street journal" and "newsweek." even though they were high-fiving at "newsweek" i was never called in a room by mark whitaker, are we being too tough on this democrat or that republican? never happened like that. melissa: it is important to note that in my three years now here at fox business, i have never been told once, ever once, what to say or what not to say, not even close. i mean, i don't know anyone here who has. and i think what is really appalling about what happened to me at cnbc is the idea that, i have a degree in economics from harvard. i'm talking about math. i'm talking about simply when you add more people to the system and add more costs that cost has to be born somewhere. you can decide as some of our viewers tweeted me said, i think

it makes sense people pay more money for people. fine. you need to understand the math and know the facts to make the right decision and what gruber is saying is that, a lot of folks were counting on people in the audience not to understand the math. i was trying to he will illuminate the math and i was stopped, dead in my tracks. that is why this story is important. >> who stopped you by the way? melissa: i don't want to sate name of the person. it wasn't mark hoffman though. >> yeah. melissa: i will give you last word. what do you think, howard? >> i think you ma i had some news. the.is let's have the debate. open enrollment start tomorrow for the program. i'm all for fairness and sell telling both sides but when you suppress information like the gruber video, it doesn't add up. melissa: guys, thanks to both of you. appreciate it. >> thanks. melissa: i want to hear from you, i have heard from more of you today than ever before. i really appreciate it. follow me on twitter

@melissaafrancis. i love it. i'm responding. i read every single one. facebook.com/melissafrancisfox. we're here. we listen, we read. we appreciate your comments. so my chances finally come, post master general patrick donahoe is stepping down! we'll speak exclusive which had i am about his decision to retire and what is coming next from the usps, aside from my job application obviously. residents at odd with businesses as one town tries to ban all tobacco sales. we'll speak with a small business owner who would be hard hit. do you ever have too much money? ♪ she inspires you.

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up next year. it is only fair to have somebody at the table who will be here a long time. melissa: that could have been me. i think you are the perfect private equity workout turn around. you have some really good businesses hidden inside some legacy businesses that have to go. your package pickup is tremendous. sunday delivery is tremendous. with amazon. you helped do the last mile with them specifically. the regular mail, i think is the thing i would have done away with. i just don't think you can deliver letters anymore. has to be fed ups where you put a letter inside of an envelope and pay for the big envelope. what do you think about that? too radical? >> that is pretty radical. we'll deliver somewhere over 130 billion letters this year. so still a lot in system. there is a lot of value in the mail still. melissa: about is you about the snail mail is one thing that is killing you. also labor costs. i want to read to you, what house oversight and government reform committee chairman dare

issa said a few minutes ago. the next postmaster general will have the opportunity to continue the fight for postal refor. he says hopes that person will be less beholdenned to the special interests that stymied past efforts to secure the future of the usps. how do you respond to that? >> in terms of the postal reform legislation there is a really good bill sitting right now in the senate. it is, it has been put forth by senators tom carper and tom coburn. it's a real winner. we need people from the house to get on board, get it passed. it solves issues around health care. solves issue around six to five day. puts us on a great path going forward. everyone has a little skin in the game. melissa: what do you wish you could have done? >> i wish i could have got postal reform done. we've done everything else. in the last 10 years we reduced headcount in this organization by 250,000 people.

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you know it does have an affect is the incredible boom. >> the white house will consider the bill. the candidates, the opacity and mary landrieu. democrat incumbent. not the only controversy. trotting out his executive action. house speaker john boehner prepared. >> we will fight the president to annandale if he continues down this path. this is the wrong way to govern.

>> here to discuss all of that, a fox news contributor. why would he go to this right now? what is the strategy. >> he does it now, which i think is sort of a politically calculated move. i am not sure that the president has the capacity to prevent and any direction. republicans are wise to be careful how they react to it. >> it is a strategy.

>> he had absolutely no interest in reforming immigration law. it is all for the purpose of making politics for his party. the president himself said in a univision interview that he could not take this type of unilateral action. >> .i work. isn't that a successful policy? >> i think it is possible that it could work. for that guy that preaches about not being cynical, this is a bad

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we are talking about the basic math. i asked for your input and the responses are flooding in. flooding in. i cannot believe it. you put the cat in with the pigeons, good job. i like that one. fantastic show. picking my jaw up off the floor. shocking despite my cynicism. on facebook, we used to watch csp and see all the time, but noticed a change after obama was elected. we felt we were not getting the true story. we changed to fox business. it is a tragedy that our news organizations have become cheerleaders for one certain political ideology.

we are lucky to have fox news and you. keep up the good work. keep your comments coming. follow me on twitter. like me on facebook. the tiny town of west minister, massachusetts, wants to become the first in america to completely ban tobacco. hundreds of residents going against the idea. brian, what would this mean to you? >> this would be a huge hit for us, financially. it will definitely hurt if it passes. >> $100,000 a year in revenue for your store.

is that right? >> that is not including the other items that people will just simply by out of town while they are shopping for tobacco. melissa: how did it get to this point? >> we really are not sure. melissa: what will you do if this goes through? >> there is a recall and process. if it does pass through, we will just cut way back on donations to organizations in town that help people. we can't sponsor little league teams. we cannot work with the local high school. we will just have to shut down. melissa: why can't you go to the very edge of town and opened shop? >> nobody will quit. they will just drive down the

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too money to miss. laurie are back. our producers in the showroom with extra bang for your buck. >> kim kardashian's -- with a champagne -- she got beat out by the spaceship. it got more tweets than she did. if you're going to get naked, you can't be beat by science. >> i saw something about kim kardashian's backside. i thought they land the economy on her backside. >> they decide that was too easy. they wanted to do something challenging. >> my faith in humanity can remain. she releases that picture on veterans day. the one day to not think of yourself. come on. >> alex what do you have. >> duck dynasty the musical. the robertsons are going do las

vegas. as soon as february. >> are we getting tickets. >> finally a reason to go to vegas. >> elizabeth warren was named the strategic policy advisor to the democratic communication center. some of her colleagues were jealous. we thought of her as the democratic hike man. >> i don't know her other title, her real title will fit on her business title. do you need policy twice. >> how nice the voice of progressive. clearly they're putting her on the front burner for the 2016 bid. >> putin is bringing in the big guns. he's in australia for the d20. and he brought warships just right off the coast and everyone is mad. >> it's a good party favor. a whole bunch of warships. >> how long until he gets

shirtless. it's about time. >> thanks to everybody out there who tweeted me and who went on facebook. i appreciate your support. thanks for joining us. right now the market is down 35. liz claman and count down starts now? liz: how can they not support fox business. a huge winner of a stock in this final hour. can it hold. burgeon america with the purple lights. the airline partially owned by billionaire soaring on its debut. shares up 33 percent. holding pretty well. up 31 percent. burgeon america, the first airline to go public since spirit air in may of 2011. another story causing excitement, the wall street journal has uncovered this. the department of justice spying on cell phones by sending a cessna aircraft equipped with devices that mimic cell phone towers. the fake towers trick cell phones into