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independents@foxbusiness.com. it's going to be a great thanksgiving and can you let co. for matt welch and kmele foster. i'm kennedy wishing you a great night and a great than >> the city of ferguson missouri still on edge. after a grand jury decided not to indict police officer darren wilson over the shooting death of michael brown. than on monday. earlier today, authorities arrested at least two people after several demonstrators stormed city hall in nearby st. louis. menial, officer darren wilson himself said he feels sorry about the death, but insists he was just doing his job. i never wanted to take his life. you know, that's not the
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good part of the life. that's the bad part of the job. so, yes, there is remorse. >> michael brown's family however are dispeught wilson's side of the story. >> my son would -- he respected the law. two, who in their right mind would rush or charge at a police officer that has a gun, you know? that sounds crazy. >> we'll take all that up tonight. also tonight, a pre-thanksgiving travel nightmare. a winter storm brings a dangerous mix of rain and snow to the east coast. a live report on some conditions affecting many people on the busiest travel day of the year. we're also learning troubling new details about president obama's executive action on immigration. despite the president's promises, turns out, nearly 5 million illegal immigrants may receive some benefits of
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citizenship, including social security, medicare, medicaid. we begin in ferguson, missouri, where the situation remains tense and uncertain. mike is on the ground tonight with our report. >> they shifted their location to downtown st. louis. blocked traffic. the ugly scenes of clashes played out again when they tried to storm city hall. [yelling] >> we're exercising our civil rights. you come out here with shields. >> you force your way into the building. you have become unlawful. >> it's not okay to shoot an unarmed boy in the middle of the street. then 108 days later say we won't indict him. >> that follows another destructive night back in ferguson. in front of city hall, demonstrators attempted
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to set a police car on fire. with the presence of national guard troops increase, the break-ins and fires decreased. police call it an improvement. there were more than 40 arrests. the demonstrations spreading around the nation picked up in intensity and destructiveness. in oakland, california, dumpsters set on fire. in new york, a protest wound around the city then gave way to clashes and protests. admonition demonstrates blacked an interkdz only to have a driver plow through them. this happens as darren wilson spoke on abc news explaining that he felt his life was threatened when he made the decision to shoot michael brown. he still feels he's right and he has a clear conscience. >> i don't think it's haunting. it will always be something that happened.
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the reason i have a clean conscience because i know i did my job right. the parents of michael brown insists that their son wasn't the aggressor. >> his conscience is clear? how can your conscience be clear even if it was an accidental death. >> they have dismissed anything officer wilson has said. they continue to demonstrate. they say against a police system that profiles and butte lieses young black. they're trying to clean up the damage. business owners decorated the boards because there's nothing to indicate when this will end. most boards will come down. ashley, back to you. >> thank you very much. mike in ferguson, missouri. the obama administration proposing new restrictions to limit smog. it could amount to a costly regulation of all time. the proposal would lower the allowable ozone
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level to a range of 65 to 70 parts per billion. the epa is considering whether to lower it down to 60 parts per billion. the limit which critics say would wipe out $3.4 trillion in economic output and 2.9 million jobs. the epa is dpopped to finalize the rule. mitch mcconnell is vowing to block or overturn the entire group of rules. the epa suffering a defeat after a federal judge put on hold the agency's plan to veto the pebble mine in alaska's bristol bay. that's the victory for the mine supporters battling to keep that job going. major headaches for millions of americans attempting to make the holiday get away. mother nature is not cooperating on one of the busiest traveling days of the year. janice has our forecast
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live from the fox extreme weather station. >> it is. living up to its name. we do have this coastal storm that is bringing a lo . >> we have the nor'easter that is bringing a lot of rain and wind and snow. here's what it looks like, philadelphia light rain, rain and snow, mixture in new york. cloudy conditions in boston, but we have seen a mixture of rain and snow in this area. airport delay, a lot of them, in some cases, hour, two hours, three hour delays. newark a two-hour delay there. and philadelphia the storm is exiting that area but dealing with over an-hour delay in that region. watching the forecast satellite imagery, this storm will be out of the way overnight tonight. in its wake, chili conditions, breezy conditions into the thanksgiving holiday, and forecast snowfall amounts. looks like the bull's-eye here for new england. north and west of boston, 6-12 even 18" of snow before this storm is done. also looking at wind gusts
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overnight tonight along the coast up to 40 miles per hour, even though the weather is moving through, and conditions are improving, we're still going to see the wind gusts and the potential for more delays, perhaps more cancellations in the northeast. but again, it will exit tonight, thanksgiving day for the most part, quieter, chilly, cold across the upper midwest and the great lakes with windchills well below zero in the areas, it will be blustery. i think we're going to get the parade up and running in new york city. it will be cold. check that in a second. northwest dealing with showers and thunderstorms in that area. for the parade, the macy's thanksgiving day parade, clear skies for the most part. it's going to be chilly. windchill feeling like 25, gusts around northwest 10-20 miles per hour. so they dealt with worse conditions. i think the parade will be just fine. and again, ashley that snowfall, the bull's-eye is new england and west of i-95.
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the worst of it is almost over for some of the big cities, but again, we will continue to monitor it. back to you. ashley: have to get through tomorrow. timing is everything. thank you very much. appreciate it. >> of course. ashley: and president obama taking a jab at republicans during the traditional pardoning of a thanksgiving turkey. >> i am here to announce what i'm sure will be the most talked about executive action this month. [ laughter ] >> today, i'm taking an action fully within my legal authority, the same kind of action taken by democrats and republican presidents before me, to spare the lives of two turkeys, mac and cheese. ashley: no word on whether republicans found the comment funny. i'm sure the turkeys are smiling though, but they're sent to a northern virginia turkey farm to live out the rest of their days. good luck to them. we're coming right back. now he tells us!
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for obamacare in the first week of this year's enrollment period. health and human services secretary sylvia burwell called that a solid start but means they need 8 1/2 million people to enroll by the end of next year if they hit targets. and the white house is now having to defend obamacare from a high-profile member of its own party. senator chuck schumer who voted for obamacare setting off intraparty battle with these comments. >> democrats blew the opportunity the american people gave them. we took their mandate and put all of our focus on the wrong problem. health care reform. now the plight of uninsured americans and the hardships caused by unfair insurance company practices certainly needed to be addressed, but it wasn't the change we were hired to make. americans were crying out for the end to the recession, for better wages and more jobs. not changes in health care. ashley: obama supporters
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quickly firing back at senator schumer with former national security council spokesman tweeting, quote -- that response from that tweet. joining us to talk about this and lots of other things, former member of president george w. bush's senior staff brad blakeman and the five co-hosts and columnist for the hill, juan williams. thank you for being here. you think he's right? >> of course he's right. i don't think there's any question after what happened in the midterms for the democrats, there's lots of postmortems actually. and part of it was why is it that the american people didn't pick up on what the democrats have done in terms of economic progress. wall street up, unemployment down, consumer confidence going into the holiday season at a high point. and yet, there was a clear vote against the democrats. and schumer has identified it as saying he doesn't think the
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american people locked in on the idea that democrats are making progress on economic issues because so much attention was given to health care. >> would you agree, brad? or is chuck schumer trying to distance himself as he looks to his own future in 2016? >> first of all, chuck schumer is the gruber of the senate. he must think we're stupid. he was the leader of the senate at the time obamacare was put through. now he's claiming it's about timing, it's not about timing, it's about deceit. and knows obama is a lame duck and he's not. he thinks this is going to help him distance himself for re-election 2016. this is all about self-preservation and if pure and simple politics where chuck schumer is trying rewrite a little history to point to it two years from now. look what i said about obamacare, and look, and i admit we made a mistake and misfocused. he made a mistake, he has to
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take responsibility. ashley: juan, schumer saying the democratic party in 2016, he says we will have to run on big government. not run away from it. do you think that's right? >> exactly right. ashley: appeals to more middle class people. >> you have to say you're serving the people. you have to make the case that government is not the evil but that, in fact, government can help your family, your pocketbook, help in terms of everything from minimum wage, which is proven to be a good issue for the democrats. didn't get them elected but proven to be a winner in terms of referendums across the country and talk about the student loans, not only minimum wage but equal pay for women. all the issues, they think that's the winning ticket, ashley. and what you're seeing now, schumer, brad's exactly right, everybody on the democratic side is fighting it out are the terms for 2016. redefine the party. they've got to redefine.
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they've got to shift the emphasis right now. i don't know there's any way chuck schumer is in trouble. he's popular in new york state. ashley: brad, so hillary clinton if she officially jumps in here, which we expect she will. is she going to take the message big government is good for us all? >> i hope she does, the republican message will resound well with americans, government should only do for the people what we can't do for ourselves, do it well and let us control our lives and let us decide how our money is to be spent. that's the issue that will be resonated. on hillary clinton, i happen to believe the country is clintoned out. we've had these people in the national stage for over 30 years, it's time for new and different leadership. both for the republicans and the democrats, i think those people who claim hillary is a shoo-in were the same people who claimed she was a shoo-in in 2008 and bested by a security organizer from
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chicago. ashley: her critics say she's hard to get access to by the media. >> yeah. ashley: not very good, reluctant to schmooze and woo the constituents and now has the difficult balance between, you know, distancing herself from thedissatisfaction from president obama and the number of issues but still not alienating the democratic base is. she a good enough floigz do that? >> i've never been impressed with her in terms of her ability to play the political game. she's not bill clinton, let's be clear. ashley: not many are. >> on many levels. and i'm not even sure she's barack obama in terms of her ability to play the political game. it's clear that women identify with her, if you look at polls right now. she outstrips any democrat, any republican contender at the moment. so yes, she is a mega candidate but the question is once the fighting begins, can she come out and start swinging? she has never demonstrated that
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capacity. ashley: yeah. well, we shall see, going to be interesting. thank you so much. out of time. brad blakeman, juan williams, thank you. >> happy thanksgiving. ashley: thanks, to you. vladimir putin flexing muscles, as the nato commander grows more concerned about a military buildup in the region. general bob scales has the threat analysis next.
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. ashley: coming up here in moments, the ferguson decision resulting in violent protests and lawlessness in missouri as we hear more of officer darren wilson's side of the story, straight ahead. nato issuing new warnings about russian forces inside ukraine. general philip breedlove during a meeting with ukrainian officials expressing concern over the militarization of crimea, there are reports vladimir putin is facing fighter jets in the area. general breedlove could be used by moscow to exert control over the entire black sea. joining us retired major general robert scales, former
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comma commandant of the war college and fox business analyst. the comments from general breedlove, you think they're accurate? >> gosh, they're understated, actually. putin has promised to put 70 more ships into the black sea fleet. he's increasing the quality of the communications in sebastia pol, he's cleaning up the docks, extending the docks, he's fencing off, full, the russian naval part of this facility, and turning it or turning it back into the classic fortress that the czars built in the 17th century. now as far as the world is concerned, crimea now belongs to russia. everybody's painting it red in their maps, even in the west, no one disputes that crimea belongs to russia. now worried about the eastern ukraine. ashley: so what about the u.s. response to this?
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obviously, mr. putin seems to do what he wants to do. we impose sanctions and speak a good game but what's it going to take to get him to stop in his tracks? >> so interesting, i talked to everyone in washington on both sides of the aisle, in the civilian side and on the military side, active and retired. those that are pro-obama and those against him. and i'll tell you, ashley, i can't find a single person who can explain to me or to anyone why we haven't helped the ukrainians. there's no down side and there's infinite upside, and yet after months and months and months of dempsey and hagel and others begging the white house to send weapons and units and materiale and aircraft into the ukraine and baltic states and poland would be enough to face down putin, and for reasons that nobody can explain to me,
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obama's inner circle continuously says no. ashley: chuck hagel said he's a huge threat. we need to be doing something and know what happened to chuck hagel. what about the european countries and germany in particular? should they be taking a stronger stand? obviously reliance on energy and gas in particular, but germany is really started stuttered in its response. >> what's interesting is cameron from great britain and merkel from germany during the g-20 went up to putin in a very nice fashion and told him to knock him off and putin told him to pack sand. you may have seen the speech merkel said to the parliament, i've had it with this guy, we've got to do something. i think we reached a point where the eu and nato realize they have to turn up the gain on military and economic confrontation in spite of
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reliance on natural gas for russia because there is no other choice. otherwise putin will annex eastern ukraine and essentially carve out the totality of the ukraine into the russian interests, and that may very well only be the beginning of his encroachment in the west. he is the single factor keeping that region of the world from being peaceful. ashley: he is something else, thank you so much, general robert scales, for joining us, appreciate it. and we are coming right back. forget ferguson, our next guest says president obama is the most divisive occupant of the white house since wilson the white house since wilson and running the al sharpton you pay your auto insurance premium every month on the dot. you're like the poster child for paying on time. and then one day you tap the bumper of a station wagon. no big deal... until your insurance company jacks up your rates. you freak out.
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. ashley: world health officials announcing a sharp jump in the number of ebola cases in west africa. nearly 5700 people have now died from the deadly virus in the hardest hit countries of sierra leone and new guinea. most of the new cases in sierra leone where the outbreak may be on the verge of slowing down there. as mother nature and ebola screenings causing delays at the airport tonight. more than 700 flights have been canceled thanks to a winter storm creating a nightmare for millions of thanksgiving travelers. jonathan hunt is at new york's
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laguardia airport and has our report. >> reporter: for millions of travelers this thanksgiving may not be the happiest with flight and traffic delays disrupting and in some cases destroying plans. but in the spirit of the holiday, passengers at new york's laguardia airport remained determinedly optimistic. >> go with the flow and whatever happens happens. >> reporter: we were excited about staying, we would like a delay maybe. so yeah, a few more days in new york. >> reporter: others have more to worry about than delays. >> the first time to meet my family. i made him shave his mustache off, though. >> reporter: large numbers of delays into and out of airports in the northeast and more likely throughout the evening. officials promised cots and blankets for those stuck for hours and will do all they can to get everyone to their
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destinations, eventually. >> any time we're faced with the possibility of accumulating snow, we bring all hands on deck, we go bat to ensure that our runways and taxi ways and services are safe. >> reporter: roads from washington to new york to boston are making travel by car and the bus equally slow particularly along the i-95 corridor with the worst of the weather just to the west of the interstate. the best bet for trouble-free travel seems to be the rails with minimal delays. and the number of canceled flights nationwide now stands at just around 730. that compares to some perspective to just 140 canceled flights yesterday. but transport officials say with the storm passing through overnight, they believe that most travelers will be able to get to their destinations at some point tomorrow, ashley? ashley: we wish them the best of luck. jonathan hunt, thank you so
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much at laguardia tonight. tough travel day. reverend al sharpton meeting with the parents of michael brown blasting prosecutors for failing to indict ferguson police officer darren wilson. >> imagine watching a prosecutor come out and not only announce no indictment, but disparage the character of your son. call him a thief. call him everything he can, and then call all of the witnesses liars. we've been through that. but to go through a whole sermon denouncing your son and you have to find enough strength to tell people don't be violent while your child can't speak for himself is being disparaged. how do we know what michael brown's side of the story is. but the prosecutor said it like there had been a trial rather than an inquiry. ashley: joining us now niger innis, national spokesperson for national equality and executive director of the tea party.net and christian adams
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former u.s. justice department attorney who served under presidents bush and obama. and the author of -- is there a problem of white cops shooting black males in this country? >> there is certainly a problem among young black males. i said this before, ashley, that black males are an endangered species if you will. i'm speaking metaphorically, there's a real crisis with young black men. the reality is the racial racketeers and those who profit from racialism like president obama and eric holder don't want to confront this truth, that 9 3% of black men that are killed are usually killed
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by other black men, not by white cops or the klan or nazis. having said that, i do believe that there are issues between the law enforcement community, police, and communities that they serve. ashley: uh-huh. >> pardon? ashley: i totally agree. let me get to christian adams, i want to ask him as former justice department attorney, how do you think the was handled and do you think independent prosecutor should have been brought in, would you agree with that? >> this case was handled the way we handle it in america. we have a grand jury process, it is very easy to indict people with probable cause. this grand jury found no probable cause. but that doesn't stop al sharpton from doing what he does best and replacing fact with fiction and going on tv and further enflaming racial tensions calling out the dogs, the wicked anarchists who burn,
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loot and pillage. that is what al sharpton does best. we know he doesn't like the american legal process, he's always abused it, rabble-roused. what happened in ferguson is the way the legal process is supposed to work. >> christian? ashley: respond to that, niger. >> i think christian would agree that as unfortunate and dangerous as sharpton and some of what i call these racial racketeers are more dangerous is the president of the united states that would go before the united nations and elevate this ferguson tragedy to that of a human rights or civil rights violation before knowing the facts. what is ten times more dangerous is the attorney general of the united states comparing the ferguson situation to emmett till who was a young black, i believe 14-year-old that in 1955 was
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lynched by a posse for whistling at a white girl. the comparison is absurd. it is nonsense, and the only purpose for that comparison is to instigate the racial division that christian talks about. sharpton is one thing, he's a community organizer, he's a powerful one, okay? he's got a television program, but far more dangerous to our republic is the president of the united states who has the imprimatur of legitimacy. ashley: how appropriate is it for eric holder to get involved to this level and the president himself? >> don't forget eric holder went to ferguson as soon as it happened and stoked the flames of racial division. he took sides, webster. he led the angry protesters to believe that he was on their side. their cause was just. and when the process worked out
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and the grand jury returned a no true bill, that just caused things to explode. this attorney general is continuing to lie to the american public about the civil rights investigation. i have reported that attorneys at the department of justice do not think there's a case. they don't think there's a case with george zimmerman and trayvon martin. holder won't shut the investigations down because he wants his base, this mob in ferguson to continue tong there might be federal criminal charges. it won't happen, but that's how the folks operate. they're using this anger to find a justification for imposing rules on local police departments. the president said so, the attorney general said so, that's what's coming next. best practice guidelines. and that's what this is all about now. ashley: niger, about 30 seconds. do you expect federal charges to come down? >> no. i expect holder to just drag this out, to keep false hopes
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alive, and the part of people, but it's not just the agitators who have their own agenda, and their agenda is not for the people of ferguson but decent legitimate people, black and other races, that are going to be misguided by this nonsense. ashley: we're out of time. thank you niger innis and christian adams, appreciate you taking the time to talk to us. now the quotation from the evening this one from the 40th president of the united states, ronald reagan -- ronald reagan. democratic senator mary landrieu of louisiana and challenger bill cassidy are trying to get voters to the polls, ten days left before the runoff election. congressman cassidy voted early in baton rouge where he told
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voters it would put an exclamation mark behind what the country already said. cassidy has plenty of reason to be optimistic. "rasmussen poll" shows him with 15-point lead over landrieu, 56-41. coming up next, forget the turkey, forget the stuffing, forget the parade. thanksgiving is all about the deals. both online and at the stores. we'll take a look at the retail rush to start the christmas shopping season, next.
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. ashley: a record-breaking day on wall street again, ho-hum. the dow gaining 13 points, the s&p up 6. closing at new all-time highs. the nasdaq up 29 points. volume on the big board, 2.7 billion shares. light on this holiday day before thanksgiving. crude oil prices falling to the lowest level ahead of opec meeting settling below 70 bucks a barrel. jobless claims up 21,000 last week. new home sales ticking higher last month while pending home sales slipped 1%. ahead of the holiday retail season, consumer spending moving higher, and consumer sentiment rising to the highest level in seven years.
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could that be a good sign? as americans prepare turkey dinners tomorrow. retailers are getting a jumpstart by ushering in a slew of holiday sales online and, yes even at store. joining me now retail analyst and fox business contributor hitha, thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. ashley: what are the predictions for black friday and the holiday season as a whole. >> 67.6 million. that's as many stars as going into the stores on black friday. that's being driven by the mill enls. 18-24-year-olds. 70% are thought to be at stores. >> i thought they were the once at home online, forget trying to find a parking space, go online. >> according to paypal study, 40% of people want to do online shopping via computers or ipads or mobile phone. but they like the convenience of it, right?
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they like to go on. people get to shop in their pajamas. i have a stat here, 15% like to drink online shopping. ashley: that could be expensive. >> it could be, yes, with the upsale, and you don't know. ashley: yeah, i'll buy it. >> so you're seeing definitely a shift towards people online shopping. now that, you know. ashley: is that good or bad for the brick and mortar folks. i was saying in the commercial break, is there moe likelihood someone is in the store, i'll get that as well. if they're at home in the bunny slippers, they're not going to see those things. >> when you have a retailer that has good online strategy and you heard the chairman of macy's talking about the omni channel retailing. making sure the shopper will not only go into the store but also go online and shop, because we're seeing people online shop more, the retailers like macy's and nordstrom will have the strategy so they upsell you even more.
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they know you're comfortable. they know that you want to go on. shopping on the mobile phone. it's not necessarily a bad thing for retailers, it's a bad thing if they don't have a good online strategy. ashley: you have to have your act together online. >> absolutely. ashley: where is the psyche of the consumer. we heard consumer confidence hitting a seven-year high? have people gotten out of the restoegz free up the purse springs? >> people are sensitive. they want to look for a good deal, but we have to remember gasoline prices are tanking right now. no pun intended, but they are pretty much at the lowest point they've been in the last couple of months. that is going to put more money into the pockets of the consumer, we're going to see it translate out into the way they're spending. people feel better about the economy. because people have the better feeling it's the halo effect, they're going to spend more. ashley: spend, spend, spend. what about the retailers, who
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can outcheap the next one? unfortunately it hurts the bottom line and people expect the amazing deals after having to be tempted in by the deals, are retailers going to give us incredible bargains? >> competing for market share more so than they have been. and you're right, when they compete for market share, when it comes to the retailers' bottom line, that's a very narrow margin. that's where we see target, like walmart, the thin margins, they want to expand the margins. the way they do that is when they get the customer in there. when you have the customer that's price sensitive, of course you see the consumers drop the prices down, great things for the customer, but might not mean great things for the retailer. ashley: are you shopping? >> maybe i will channel check, but no. ashley: eat, drink and be merry. check lou dobbs radio reports on the salem radio network.
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but what you're not paying attention to is the fact that i just took action to change the law. [ applause ] >> now -- >> well, the administration confirming that illegal immigrants impacted by the president's unilateral changes to the law could be eligible for social security and medicare benefits. joining me now to talk all about this, manhattan institute senior fellow and city general contributing editor, heather mcdonald. you call this a constitutional crisis. >> it sure is a ward shed moment for our country, economically, constitutionally and demogrhley: what will be tht of this, in your mind? >> on the rule of law, enormous, if this sets a precedent for the president to be able to pass his own laws when the people are against it, we are on the path to a true tyranny.
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i don't usually believe in hyperbole but it can't be overstated how radical and illegal obama's actions are. that's one thing, and without the rule of law, we're nothing. but economically i think it's also going to be an enormous blow in the gut to the american people because -- >> and why? >> because you're going to have a very low skilled population that are already using vast amounts of taxpayer resources in terms of schools, trying to educate their children, prison time. now they're going to qualify for a much larger basket of welfare benefits. ashley: i'm sorry, i thought when this came out they weren't eligible for benefits but now apparently they are? >> of course, they'll be eligible for it themselves, now kids are getting it if they're in the country, they will be eligible for obamacare, medicare, social security, there's no way the low skilled population will pay enough in taxes to account for the
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welfare benefits that they're going to be consuming. ashley: what's the way forward for the republicans to try and undo this? >> well, constitutional crises are really about a showdown of who blinks first and what they have to do is pass a law that says we are not funding your amnesty. we are not going to allocate money for the green card provisions for the background checks as superficial as they will be. do not believe that criminal records are disqualifying. they're not. there's never been an amnesty that disqualifies anyone from criminal record, so few people would qualify. here you get misdemeanor records, that's fine, come on in and get the green card. if obama then vetoes it, things get complicated and we have to wait for the next session. ashley: that's a difficult thing to do to get into the nonfunding part of it, as you say, president obama is going
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to say sorry. so is it really that feasible an action that will actually stop this? >> he can probably go ahead. i don't know. but we have to pursue this and see where it takes us. ashley: why would these illegal immigrants come out of shadows to pay taxes? the temptation is, of course they can stay legally. do you think more of exit out of the shadows. >> the shadows are not really shadows. in states they have driver's licenses, the idea they are lurking in fear is preposterous, there is zero chance of deportation if you are in the states now. all the deportations are on the border. this is the biggest magnet we've had for illegal immigration. ashley: what's this going to do now? they're thinking about coming here illegally. >> it says come here have, anchor baby, have a child granted birth rights to citizenship and you will be
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eventually granted legal status yourself. there's never been anything like this for incentivizing illegal immigration, now that we have effectively delegitimated deportation and obama is getting rid of the secure communities program, there is simply no disincentive. is 5 million? >> i guess it is an estimate. ashely: and as always, the taxpayers will end up footing the bill for it. >> low skilled americans will be her with the wage competition and it is a good deal for immigrants. there is no question about that but for native workers at the bottom, they will be facing even more competition.
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the law of supply and demand is not listed for illegal immigration. the more supply worker, the lower wages. there are people that do have to worry. ashley: liana time, i know visual feedback to talk about this issue that is not going away. thank you very much. it's time for a few of your comments. they said the white house is a gated community. ben got me, "fast and furious", and now jonathan gruber date. and another says that john kerry needs to walk away from the iran talks, and that could be israel and even the u.s. and jeff from illinois thing that why would the republicans impeach president obama? is a wrecking ball that void the democratic party on a daily basis. we love hearing from you at loudobbs.com. follow us at twitter or you can
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go to our facebook page and we have links to everything. so that is it for us. coming up next you for joining us and have a great thanksgiving from new york. neil: welcome, everyone, ferguson is still hot. because this says that one is not helping any. and reverend jesse lee peterson said it's better that these guys shut up and quit infuriating the rest of the guys. you are saying that they are a part of the problem. >> well, first welcome a happy thanksgiving. neil: to you as well. a. >> many like reverend al sharpton and others
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