he would be grateful to whoever turned off the lights on the north korean internet without seeking a smidgen of credit, nice. thanks for being with us, stay tuned for "cavuto." good night from new york. . >> cops are blasting him, bill de blasio has protesters protesting him. i'm david asman in for neil cavuto. activist groups rejecting his call to hold off on protesting until after the funerals of the murdered police officers. benevolent association president james carver says it is too late to undo the bad blood he created. can de blasio regain the trust of his police force again? >> i think that train's left the station. i don't think you can do that after all the damage that's done over the last couple of

years. >> what does this mean for a city, when the mayor of that city doesn't have the police backing him? >> well, i think it shows that people can do whatever they want to do. you talk about the protesters right now. he's allowed them to protest. he's allowed them to sit there and say the cops should be killed. he's lost control of the protests as evidenced by him asking him to suspend the protesters for the time being until after the holidays, until after the assassinated police officers are buried. >> frankly, frankly, mr. carver, frankly i'm less concerned whether he can or cannot control those people as i am whether he's backing the police. a mayor that doesn't support the police is a crippled mayor, and in a city like new york that could become dangerous quickly. >> absolute leechl the police officers have no faith in what he's doing. seems like he's siding with the

al sharptons of the world instead of the police officers. the police officers are the good people keeping crime at historic lows right now. and he's trying to blame them for anything that's wrong in society. >> i have no doubt that al sharpton is anti-cop. there is a question about the mayor. do you think the mayor of new york city is anti-cop? >> by his actions it appears he is anti-cop, absolutely. everything that he's done, stop and frisk, and onto the protests, the reaction he had after the garner decision, and just keeps on coming along, each and every time. >> all he has to do is looking at statistics, and you can see the thousands of people whose lives have been saved who otherwise would have been statistics, because we had 2,000 murders a year here not long ago, the number surround 400. and most killed were black and hispanic, poor minority people whose lives are saved as a result of police actions and policies that he is now trying to overturn.

if he said okay, i've looked at the stats, i realize police officers save so many more lives than they harm in so many ways, i'm supporting them 100%, that wouldn't do any good now? >> what you just talked about, with the amount of homicides decreased over the years, he came in here and tried to fix something that wasn't broken. he should continue to let the new york police officers do their jobs, keeping the largest capital of the world as safe as it is where people come in from all over the world to sit and visit. he's trying to take tools away from the police officers and give them back to the criminals. >> it's amazing, one of the safest place, when i moved here in the 80s, one of the most dangerous places in the world. it did change thanks to incredible police work and giving them tools they needed to turn it around. most new yorkers are thankful for that. i'm amazed the mayor is not.

we got to leave it at that. james carver, thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> you know the murders of the officers telegraphed attack on the popular social media site instagram. he wrote and i'm quoting now -- i'm putting wings on pigs tonight. what you may not know over 100 people "liked" his comment. risk control strategies ceo paul says authorities should be looking into anyone who supported these killings. and paushlg the question is where do you draw the line between the real threats and the first amendment. how do you answer? >> this is the quintessential example of premeditated murder. he broadcasted it. any person that "like" it was part of the planning of it, and the lack of disclosure makes them party to it. clearly they should get a knock on the door from the nice courteous police detective and get questions taken. >> you already have a couple of arrests, if not arrests, people

under suspicion, one guy in massachusetts who wrote on facebook he was for putting wings on pigs. this guy hasn't been arrested yet but he's going to be called into atone for what he said and explain to police officers. what could happen to him? >> look at this way, just because it's social media doesn't give you a pass, look at it from the legal side and the prosecutorial side of this. if anyone participated in this then they're party to it, clearly they go down the road of prosecution, no question about it. the thing to remember, two cops were assassinated. anybody that participated in the communication of that should be questioned. >> says this guy is summons to court for threat to commit a crime. frankly that's something i hadn't heard of, i don't know if that's a state or federal law. is that? >> new york state penal code. >> this guy is in massachusetts, i imagine it's massachusetts penal code,

right? >> could be. that's on the books in new york as well. >> finally, there is this journal at brandeis university who wrote she has no sympathy for dead cops. i really don't have sympathy for the cops that were shot. i hate this racist f'ing countries. she's complaining, after her remarks were put on tweet, taken down, another person put them back up again. i'm wondering as awful as her comments are, does she have a case? she's threatening to sue people for putting remarks back up on the social media site? >> this is not a first amendment issue. she doesn't like the country, there are flights every hour on the hour. get on a plane and leave. she doesn't like, it leave the country. she doesn't have a right to sue anybody, for what? you put it on social media, it's public knowledge. get off of it if you don't want to be exposed to it.

for the record, this is the kind of person that at 2:00 in the morning when someone is breaking into her house, she's dialing 911. >> exactly, exactly. i don't know who's paying nar $60,000 a year education. whoever it is, they're not getting their money's worth. paul, thank you very much. surely you would think the mayor took some blame for escalating tensions or admit the protesters added to some of the anger that led to the murders. you would be wrong. take a listen. >> the vast majority of our citizens are good and decent people who do not say negative things, racist things, nasty things to police, threatening things to pchlts the few who want conflict attempt that, and unfortunately so many times you guys enable that. >> to our fox biz all-stars, veronica dagher, mark serrano and tracy byrnes. is the media at all to blame? >> just like the president on a

smaller level. god forbid he take blame for this. not the protesters who blocked bridges, laid down in the middle of stores so people couldn't shop. certainly wasn't them or the protesters that called the police, the kkk spat on them. come on now! take responsibility for this. >> mark, i'm sensing panic with the mayor of new york now. that's the comment when somebody starts pointing fingers, he was shaking answering. that dangerous to have a mayor of new york city panicking like that? >> i'm the son of a retired nypd cop. the outrage in the police community is unprecedented. here's the reason you have the conflict and pointing blame at the media. he used the media to advance the propaganda of the protesters. now he wants to blame the media for pointing the finger at him. there is outrage in the police community over. this a very close colleague of mine said here's why far left democrats have a hard time

governing. their ideology is in conflict with leadership role. so he's looking to blame anybody but himself. >> a great point. particularly now, he's in charge of the police. he can't be conflicted with the police. veronica, tracy alluded to this, how much is president obama to blame for allowing al sharpton into the white house, into the justice department to have influence in pick the next attorney general? >> could be part of it. to go back to the media issue, you can't blame the media when they are doing their job, they're reporting the news, showing the protesters, they're not putting the words in the mouth of the protesters. it would be wrong for the media not to report it. >> i think that's why the guy is panicking, and that's a dangerous situation. north korea is the one that ticked off sony, but now sony is going after tweeters. and watch what you can treat, you could get a call from sony's lawyer, you can believe

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. david: so "the interview" is back on now after the blame game, the backtrack, president obama blamed sony for pulling it, sony blamed theaters for not showing it, and theaters blamed attorneys for not blocking it. now all backtracking and releasing it. jonathan hoenig has had enough of it. are we taking our eyes off the ball, north korea, the hacker? >> david, north korea was the aggressor in all of this mess. sony were the victims. all of us americans were victimed. a lot of anger out there and i feel for sony, they were victims here. billions of dollars of intellectual property was stolen, they along with millions of americans were

threatened by who? by north korea. the president whose job it is to keep us safe and protect us -- david: jonathan, you know my wife, my wife always said there are no victims, only volunteer, and to a certain extent, sony, sony just showed so little back bone. i understand that now they've found that back bone or maybe because of pressure from the white house, we'll discuss that later. but then there was also the george clooney deal, he tried to get hollywood executives or anybody in hollywood to sign a paper saying they wouldn't stand for this. he couldn't find one person to sign it. he found out about the zero back bone of hollywood. >> back bone? they are physically threatened. sony doesn't have nuclear bombs. they don't have weapons, they don't have an army. they can't retaliate by force in the same way force has been used against them by north korea. unfortunately, the president promised to respond not by deleting north korea's book

mark but by using force. david: i got to push back on one thing, i love you dearly, mostly agree with you. after 9/11, things changed for those of us in the united states who realize you don't have to be in the military to fight a battle. every one of us, citizens, have to fight for freedom. this is one of the cases in my eyes, am i wrong? >> you could make the metaphor, if your house is burglarized, you should storm out and try to catch the aggressor? that's when you rely on force for. government is force. i applaud sony for standing up for property right, that's the purview of government. david: yeah, whenever it is possible. as citizens we have certain responsibility, not all given us to, we're not just born with the extra great things of having been an american. you were lucky enough to be born in america, we got to stand for stuff that we do, even if it's not in our job

description. >> david you alluded to it before, what if sony opened this movie? they would have been putting their own at risk. the responsibility to retaliate is not up to each of us individually. our response is so lackadaisical, unbelievably weak. david: i think we all have responsibility, we all got to stand up for what we believe in. jonathan, great to see you, thank you very much. first the media, now twitter. sony attorney david boies is threatening to sue ordering them to ban the accounts responsible for pay up. can he do that? attorney kelly says yes, he can sue, randy says he cannot sue. why can he not sue?

>> you have legal reasons and practical reason week have the old first amendment and interesting notion called prior restraint. you cannot restrain people from speaking or printing something before it's out there. first amendment says no. plus the stuff is out there in the public domain, and the law is very clear about things that are in the public domain. once again, you can't suppress that. it is against the constitution, and goes against everything our country was built on. david: calley, sounds reasonable, no? >> sounds reasonable, this is a different situation, these are furtherance of libel, slander, disseminating private information, not for great public concern. knowing it's causing damages potentially to individuals and sony and to further that, the law doesn't necessarily keep up, but the lawyer, boies, sent the right letter, stop it right now. putting twitter on notice.

when we are damaged by, this we're coming after you. the law may not be the only way, but to stop it. david: randy, similar case, what happens if somebody steals a letter from my mailbox, opens that letter and publishes in a newspaper the information that was in the stolen letter. >> well, you raise two issues. david: federal crime. is the newspaper liable? >> no, first of all it is a federal crime to go into the mailbox, that person will be prosecuted for that. i think the easier argument is you have all of the websites that you can go and say all kinds of horrible things about other people. the law says that those websites, so long as they don't edit the content and add to the content and post, they're immune to liability. david: if i'm a newspaper and publish the information in the stolen letter and i know it's a stolen letter, i would not be liable for prosecution as a newspaper? >> if it's truthful, truth is a

defense. david: if you're a public figure, no. would i be in trouble if it's stolen. >> i'm sorry, i didn't know you were coming to me. that's the issue, the crux with the law. as long as the information disseminated is truthful, they cannot be held liable. i disagree. i think the law needs to change that they can be held liable, in furtherance of a crime, it could be libelous, slanderous, could be trying to defame someone. they need do more research than publish the information. if you are helping someone perpetrate a crime, absolutely you could be convicted. david: david boies is a good attorney. >> he's a good attorney, got to make the client happy. in the court of public opinion, the answer is no. david: turns out the targeting scandal is worse, worse than we thought.

. david: just when you thought you heard it all about the irs, darrell issa's last report on the irs is out, this is a doozy. looks like the tax agency planned a special tax on donations made to political groups specifically

conservative once. david french is an attorney who represents groups targeted by the irs and says this time the irs has outdone itself. i agree, david. what do you make of the latest? . >> you know, here's what i make of it. we have a smoking gun admission of constitutional violation called viewpoint discrimination in violation of the first amendment where they single out groups based on viewpoint about the government saying we shouldn't treat them the way we treat all the other c 4's, and what you hinted at earlier, let's impose a gift tax when you give to the 501 c 4 groups, it's like the irs was brainstorming ways to suppress the first amendment. david: gift tax is not a cheap thing. it's gone up to 40%. for every $100,000. you have to give $40,000 to the irs if you want to contribute to one of the groups. lois lerner is the unnamed

official, a lot of people think is responsible for pushing this idea. do you think it was all lois lerner or was this a conspiracy? >> of course, it wasn't all lois lerner, another thing you realize from the report how widespread the discussion of this matter is within the irs, reaching all levels of the irs, multiple offices of the irs. going coast-to-coast, our own offices indicate offices were engaged coast-to-coast. this was a systematic problem. david: you are finding out information about it, thankfully the "wall street journal" and a couple, a small handful of organizations are. are you shocked that more media organizations are not looking into this, that it's not a front page story? >> no, i'm not shocked at this point. this is a story that the media jumped on initially, but when they began to realize the story was complicated, involved many

more than just one fall guy and lois lerner, and involved this irs systematically. it began to lose interest. this is a story, if the roles were reversed, a conservative president, involved with liberal groups or conservative government involved with liberal groups, the meade yald be all over. this instead they're trying to treat it like the, quote, unquote phony scandal that the white house termed it. david: stay with us, the house gop report is blaming the obama white house for weaponizing the irs. veronica, first of all, you are from the "wall street journal," kudos, the "wall street journal" first reported that story, irs was thinking of taxing conservative groups. is there a little more media interest than there was? could. >> be, the fact we reported it, hopefully more outlets will pick it up. david: you are on the news side, not the editorial side. >> the news side. the irs job is to interpret the

tax code. people want that done. the irs isn't supposed to be a partisan organization, it's supposed to be nonpolitical. and to add the political element for it, that's not what americans want. david: it's against the law, after nixon used the irs for political purposes, congress changed the law, it was one of the articles of impeachment against richard nixon. he was never impeached. they would have used that as a charge to impeach him. >> this report makes nixon look like a change. think of the terms, culture of byes aweaponization of the irs? this is a damning report, and the media is delinquent for not using this as a tool in reporting. if you think about it, the white house, they lay out a timeline. here's when the president talked about conservative groups. here's where irs officials talked about fixing the problem with conservative groups. lay out a timeline. david: and of course the time line, tracy, right before the president's re-election. it's clear they wanted to clear

the dex of the conservative groups before the president's re-election and, of course that's exactly what happened. i'm wondering if these, these reports, these irs reports led to the republicans' win in the last election, the midterms? >> i can't answer that. what i know is what david french said, he's dead on. this is complicated tax code. that's part of the problem, too. this is gift tax, estate tax, 501 c 4 exempt company, everything rolled into one. media doesn't necessarily understand it. david: spoken like a real accountant. tracy is the only one who understands it. reading it, it's murky, nothing in the law that says you should or should not. it's interpretation, probably why the media backed away from this. david: david, all of us here are discouraged that the media is not more interested in the story. i think it played a role in the midterms in november, don't you? >> any question among the conservative base, this issue has made them very angry for a

very long time and for very good reason. this was as the report indicates the weaponization of the irs, and i think in the most recent midterms that's one of the reasons you saw the base come out so strong as a symbol they will not be intimidated, the irs cannot suppress an entire political movement. david: tracy, you think it gives oomph to the tax code, to get a flat tax or something? >> if it doesn't, i don't know what does. this is so squishy, the code is a book of political favors, it should be abolished. the only way is start over. >> the gop is going to take this report and put together a package of reforms for the irs. >> more layers, more layers. >> bipartisan commission, because they've got to deal with this, and if the president vetoes it, he'll be taking accountability. david: the horse put together by commission, i don't know if it will simplify it. they've got to do something

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david: well, this isn't the line for the new iphone. this is actually a long line of dreamers waiting to get their first driver's license. joe arpaio is suing president obama from stopping this line from forming. what is the charge? what are you charging the president with? >> i'm really not suing at issue. i'm suing -- larry claman is my attorney. he knows how to handle these cases. we're in federal court in washington, dc. basically, on two issues. the constitutionality of his executive order, but more important is

letting felons on the streets of the phoenix area, 4,000 people in my jails here illegally charged with all types of crimes, have been released turned over to ice, and 36 percent keep coming back. so that is the issue. it's a dangerous issue. it has to do with security. and he now is saying, through his executive order, that only the gangbangers or terrorists will be deported. so he's giving amnesty to all these other felons. that's the issue. david: the ice agents aren't namsy pamsy guys don't they simthighs with your claims? >> the bureaucrats in washington -- david: i'm talking about the ice agents, the folks on the ground. >> what can they do about it? they take their orders from washington. they can't do anything

about it. david: what do they tell you? you must have conversations with these guys. what are they saying to you? >> well, the border patrol, especially who we work with and the ice agents, they're not happy. but, you know what, that's the system -- i can't break this. my hands are tied. so the only way you can do it is to go to court. if the district judge in washington rules against us, then we'll bring it up to the supreme court. david: larry claman will go all the way. we know he's serious. beyond the public safety issue, which is certainly serious to you, there is an issue whether these illegal immigrants will now be able to use some of the documents they receive like driver's licenses to vote. even though they're not legal. is that conceivable? >> you know, 5 million, and after so many years,

you're going to get a pass to prove that you've been here those years. i think they'll be using a lot of electric bills and gas bills to show that they've been here for many years. how will you control this? it will be impossible. they can't even control the felons that i just talked about, being turned over, and they keep coming back. they can't keep track of felons. so this is a big bureaucratic problem too. david: you've seen any evidence that some of these illegals are trying to vote? >> no, i haven't come up with that through the thousands and thousands when we had the authority to arrest illegal immigrants. i did question many of them that we arrested. but we didn't come up with any concrete proof. david: now i ask you about ice agents, what they tell you in private. i wonder about legal immigrants who come here. do you have any legal immigrants who come to you and say, look, we support you in what you're trying to do. what do they say?

>> i have illegal immigrants when i was in the fight against illegal immigrants with my hotline, thousands of people have called. and guess what, most of them are illegal immigrants that having us the information. but right now, i'm out of that business on the illegal immigration situation. david: all right. well, sheriff, we'll be interested in hearing what happens with your lawsuit. come back and tell us how it turns out. joe arpaio. we know president obama is a fan of al sharpton, but we had no idea he was this big of a fan. how sharpton has an open invite to the white house. how many times he's been there next.

david: eighty-one times. that's how many times al sharpton's name reportedly popped up on a white house guest list. chairman craig smith is wondering why al sharpton gets to meet behind closed doors, but business guys like him

get locked out. craig, i have to be honest. i think he much more easily identifies with the al sharptons of the world than he does with the craig smiths of the world. >> no doubt about that, david. we know one thing for sure they're not doing is creating jobs because small businesses create 70% of all the jobs coming out of recessions. you know that. and i suspect -- and actually, quite frankly, i was shocked to see that al sharpton even went to the white house because after we elected an african-american president, quite frankly, david, i thought men like sharpton and jesse jackson would be looking for jobs. david: have you ever heard of a job being created in the private sector by al sharpton? >> never. quite to the contrary. i've seen a lot of jobs lost. and, david, i know the nation has to be heartbroken when we hear chants like what do we want? dead cops. when do we want them? now. then to see al sharpton

totally silent until he has to say something. the same thing with de blasio, and that's hurting employment in this country. david: i'm wondering what they talk about. eighty-one times. i can understand once or twice. but 81 times. but, of course, what's in my eyes reprehensible because the guy has flouted the law or broken the law and sometimes led to terrible situations in which people, innocent people have died. white housal sharpton was in the white house when the president was announcing the new attorney general. al sharpton was there. he's not a symbol of justice. he's a symbol of a mob. >> you're right. a stain on the memory of martin luther king. everything he did was nonviolent. everything that al sharpton does has a shred of violence. now, i can speculate on what he may have been talking about. maybe he's talking about getting a pardon on the

$4.5 million back taxes he owes. maybe he was looking for a pardon for his 1993 conviction on failure to file his income tax. or maybe he was in there looking for a favor of how he will square the books away with some of his nonprofit organizations that have come under question. we know one thing for sure, there's a three musketeers. eric holder, barack obama, and al sharpton, i hate to say this. but i said this in an editorial. they've done more to set back race relations in this nation than any other group. david: even beyond that, the fact is our country, our free market system relies on the rule of law and property rights, things that al sharpton has shown no signs of defending. in fact, sometimes he's trying to break down some of those laws. >> you're absolute right. remember, people have a short memory. freddie, they destroyed that business. a solid business.

they destroyed it. destroyed people's lives in the duke lacrosse case. never anything created by al sharpton other than commotion, chaos, and separation. and that's why he should not have been in the white house one time, no less 81 times. david: the president has been asked about this before. first of all, he says i've invited people from the private sector in the white house. a lot of them are these insiders, the heads of multibillion-dollar corporations, not so much the small and medium businesses. he says, i'm too busy solving the problems of the world. i'm putting an end to wars. he's spending time with al sharpton. he has time to see the private sector, doesn't he? >> he sure does. you know knowing the business world that it's simple how to create jobs. you make a conducive environment for businesses to grow. the president needs to bring confidence to this nation. he needs to bring stability. we need to know where we

are on foreign and domestic policies, instead of just kind of shooting from the hip as this president does. and so this president has turned a deaf ear to business. he's turned a deaf ear to the private sector. and i'm just literally holding my breath, david, for two more years. we have great plans. our business is getting ready to expand huge come 2016, once we know where this nation is headed. david: well, that's good news. and i think the private sector is ready to take off. it's a shame it's had to be held back. craig smith. thank you so much. good to see you. investors whooping it up for dow 18,000. next, why our fox biz all-stars aren't all celebrating.

david: it's a green christmas for wall street. dow hits 18,000 for the

first time ever. but is christmas really coming early thanks to janet yellen? back with our fox business all-stars. so, tracy, is this just a fed bubble? >> there's a lot going on, david. the fed is the point person for why the market goes up. free money. but consumer story got off their butt and got out there. that's not to the consumer saying, hey, you know what, i'm sick of this. savings has gone down. good economic data. i think there's a little momentum, it might keep going. david: mark, we had a gdp of 5%. >> boy, we want to see that going. david: that was for one quarter the average was a little over 2%. >> it is thanks to consumer spending. my concern that it is a bubble. and a year from now when the fed finally starts to raise the interest rates, it will burst then. we can enjoy it in

equities for a while, but i think it's artificial. david: veronica, what happens when the fed raises rates? >> that might be priced already. we're sort of the best place to invest for global investors and folks at home. a lot of places having slowing growth. not so great to invest in china and europe. investors really like the us right now. i expect that to remain. probably more volatile -- >> let's think about when they raise rates. it will be a decimal of a decimal of a did he decimal. slow painful rate. david: if you look back 40 years at the relationship between interest rates and inflation, we've always had inflation above interest rates. for the past three or four years, we've had inflation. as low as it is it's above interest rates. savers are losing money. >> yeah. two weeks ago, there was this panic. the dow dropped hundreds

of points. it goes to show you, you can always -- you need a long-term strategy. you can count on equities long-term. david: people like to gamble. on to issue number two, when you go to bed, leave your ipad in the living room. new study showing using electronics before you go to sleep messes with your sleeping pat rnz. is our gadget addiction getting dangerous? >> yeah, it is. who here doesn't have electronic devices on your nightstand. anybody? david: i blame my wife. i do. >> she's not here so you can blame her. i think this report won't change any behavior at all. i know there are a lot of busy beleaguered moms. they seek refuge with their tablet reader. they want to dive into their reader. it won't change anything. david: it messes up your mind. maybe the way you think as well. >> potentially.

it's just one study. i haven't seen an actual study about the study. david: what do you think? you know people get messed up by this. >> i could. at the same time, the study talked about, you know, people who read four hours a night on their ipad. who does that? who has that time? i'd love that kind of time to be leisurely reading. >> nobody watches a horror film before bed. i cannot watch a horror film. >> i have nightmares. me either. if nothing else, you'll find these tablet companies will find ways to change the infrared. david: seth rogen tweeting today, quote, the people have spoken. freedom has prevailed. sony didn't give up. "the interview" will be shown at the theaters, willing to play it on christmas day. tracy, i'm wondering who is responsible for this. the president said sony made a mistake. we have the theaters blaming sony.

the lawyers blaming the theaters. who pushed this issue? >> i want to say the media, quite frankly, because it's about bloody time. sony, my god, talk about dragging your feet. they should have put this movie out regardless. took them forever to make a decision. says nothing about their managerial skills. we should have seen this by now. david: who pushed sony to make this decision? >> i think sony's stockholders had their say. here's why. when they had to pull this a week ago because the theaters weren't going to run it, they had no backup plan. they blew it. this announcement is a week late. they should have made it known, we won't be silenced. >> their shareholders have been miserable for years now with this stock. >> understood. but that's ultimately after the embarrassment and the pr crisis, there was pressure. >> in their defense, they've been in uncharted territory. no company has been on

attack like this especially from another company. maybe we should give them a little leeway. david: i don't know. that's like -- that's like giving leeway to a snail. i have to say something, we were talking on the break about how -- when has hollywood had a back bone? there was a time when jimmy stewart was fighting in world war ii, a lot of people used to fight in a war and then go back to hollywood afterwards, we seem to have lost that. >> elvis. david: that's right. he served in the army as well. >> we certainly have lost that. david: could this be one of those moments that changes hollywood. where hollywood realizes, hey, we may be on the front lines. >> george clooney will say my friends are losers. they suck and have no spine. david: george clooney wrote up a letter saying exactly why hollywood should put this movie up. he could want get one person inside hollywood to sign that. whether it was an actor

or hollywood executive. >> they should have had this plan a week ago. this could, if they put it streaming, if they deliver this through streaming media, it could be the biggest single seller if they do it soon. >> that would be a nice turn around story. hopefully what this changes is company's cyber security policies. companies need to get stricter with cyber security. need to take a lot more seriously. the government too. david: i hate to ask a question. what happens if something bad happens at a theater? >> at this point, they have no choice, but to take a shot. unfortunately. everyone will be on high alert, no doubt. i for one will walk it at home. >> you have to back it up. free speech. david: let's us witc wish them e best. the result you've been waiting for. who wins the cavuto clash in 2014? we have the answer you've been waiting for after the short break. stay tuned.

david: neil retorts you decide. we asked you to go on facebook.com/teamcavuto to vote on what you thought was the best cavuto clash on 2014. a lot of heated exchanges on this show. but there are three you guys thought stood out the most. first runner-up. neil telling michele bachmann that republicans are wasting time suing president obama over his executive action. >> george bush did the same thing. waste of time. waste of time. >> so what we need to do is defund the executive branch, number one. neil: wait. think about what you're saying. congresswoman. david: next up, the biggest rivalry, cavuto versus imus. neil blindsided him on

the second best clash of 2014. >> you have an iphone six? let me see it. bring it over here or i'll beat your fat ass. >> come on betelgeuse. let's get it on. >> there's been a new tray of doughnuts out in the greenroom. >> there's vials outside. you want me to bring some in for you? >> oh. david: i would have loved to see that. here it is the cavuto clash you said was the best of 2014 with the drum roll. neil clashes way lawyer representing an illegal immigrant drug smuggler who is suing us by getting roughed up by a border dog. >> if i broke into your house and i tripped and broke my ankle on your stairs on the way up to empty out your wife's jewelry chest, do i have a legal right to sue your ass? >> no. >> of course not because i broke into your house. >> of course, i would

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