at show and a very fun journey. thanks to all our friends at fox that helped out. for matt welch and kmele foster, i'm kennedy. have a great night. ng you in the hands of lou dobbs. ♪ ♪ lou: good evening everyone i am sure sony in for lou dobbs. breaking news. united states military has been hacked by isis supervisors. suspended after an apparent cyberattack, promoting a radical islamic group. also here tonight, french authorities cautioning six suspects in the terror attack from last week are large.

and the white house tonight under fire from a liberal national media. and it fellow democrats after declining to send a high-level official to a massive anti-terror rally in paris is weekend. having the white house admitting that they are wrong. taking all of this up on the program tonight. and we begin with new threats to the homeland. the u.s. military overseas operations in the middle east. hackers claiming the islamic state had a so-called cyberjihad on by attacking youtube and twitter accounts. jennifer griffin has the latest details from the pentagon. >> a cyberattack hit this youtube page are virtually the same time the president was making plans and remarks about the need for better cybersecurity. >> this is a direct threat to the economic security of american families are in and we have to stop it.

and if we are going to be connected, then we need to be protected. reporter: as the president spoke, the official twitter account for u.s. central command which oversees the war in syria and iraq had a banner that said i love isis reclaiming a cybercaliphate showing photos that look as though they had been taken from military web cameras and f150 art here the hackers row, we are in your pc computers and military bases. an official confirmed that account had been compromising that we are taking appropriate measures to address the matter. and fiery images of the fighters, the chairman of the joint chiefs general martin dempsey warned about the cyberthreat in an interview on fox news sunday.

>> it can be an incredibly destructive and disruptive. >> in every domain we have enjoyed a significant military advantage. the we have peer competitors inside. >> the head of the nsa and the cybercommand admiral mike watters in a business report last week expressed his concerns as well. >> it is more than just a nationstate phenomenon. i pay great attention as we start to see some of these terrorist organizations move along the same lines. reporter: it revealed the personal details of army commanders including personal e-mails and partial social security numbers and phone numbers, some of those numbers seem outdated. a spokesman said there did not appear to be a classified breach.

>> a note of caution the votes as they cover this story and the significant difference between what is a large data breach. reporter: and the statement moments ago, they did not breach any military networks but it resembles a previous attack on a newspaper in albuquerque. the fbi is now investigating. cheryl: thank you, jennifer griffin. the white house tonight offering a rare admission of wrongdoing. the liberal national media along with several high-profile democrats planned escape what president françoise hollande called the biggest rally in france's history. millions denounced radical islamic terrorism is where freedom of the press. ed henry has the report. reporter: at a ceremony honoring

the san antonio spurs president obama said he thought about skipping it. >> i was considering having the vice president cover these remarks so that i could stay fresh for the state of the union. reporter: coming the same day that other newspapers blasted them for skipping a massive rally against solidarity and this included remarks from retired individuals like ralph peters. >> and another problem of objects for a president last summer who had witnessed the beheading of an american journalist. reporter: josh earnest made a rare admission that the white house podium that a mistake was made. >> it's fair to say that we should have sent someone with a higher profile to be their. reporter: secretary of state john kerry traveling tried to minimize it. >> i think that this is sort of equivalent in the sense that our

assistant secretary of state was there in march and i'm basinger was there in march many people from the embassy where they are. reporter: as u.s. ambassador nominee to oppose after $500,000 for the president's reelection donation she was in paris, although she did attend a rally for france it happened and they just walked in the white house. >> we haven't gotten an account where the president has done something. >> are you prepared for this? >> what was the president doing this in a. >> i was not prepared for question like this for what he is actually doing. >> irna said that he was also not aware of the details of the attorney general, eric holder, it in paris this weekend for a terror meeting. while in paris he did appear on for sunday talk shows with

in-depth questions about why the administration said his country is at war with islamic extremism. >> with read through them is islamic extremism >> immodestly carried out acts of violence. reporter: that was about the white house announcement the next month will be holding a summit about countering violent extremism. when i pressed on why they are not calling it islamic extremism, josh earnest said that they are trying to fight other arms of extremism as well. >> thank you very much for that. we are learning more tonight about the so-called zones in france and other european nations where terrorists have been able to operate freely from the boundaries of civilized society. washington correspondent james rosen has the report.

reporter: around the outer limits of paris and across greater plans, home to europe's largest muslim population, the french government over the last two decades has blocked out some 750 areas known as urban zones, but known informally as no go zones were central state authority is diminished the point of zero. >> in some cases sharia law is the law of those particular areas. >> we see a continuous problem like car burning in france with the inability of french police to do this because it's dangerous for non-muslim police to enter these areas and to not be faulted with rocks tarmac in these enclaves of foreign-born muslims, an employment on

employment rates can run as high as 50%. lack market economies thrive and radical islam finds a fertile breeding ground. >> you can be walking through streets that feel like baghdad. >> you see young men wearing osama bin laden t-shirts. i saw a speech by an individual who is reading an insurgency book. it seems very mainstream. these are the efforts of islamist like the muslim brotherhood or al qaeda to recruit off the streets format over the last year's french president françoise hollande has stepped up leasing and 15 security zones, some overlapping and achieved limited success in reestablishing central authority. >> western civilization has to start defending itself, the values, the cultures, the laws. if you wind up with pocket where those laws don't apply we

shouldn't he surprise that we see things like this happening. reporter: other european countries are also reported to have no go zones including germany italy and sweden. cheryl: thank you very much, james. europe's police commissioner today warning the police force to be on high alert after the islamic state posted a new video online instructing extremists to target law enforcement. >> we want them to be vigilant. to protect that location as well as themselves and the public. so when i see someone texting away or not paying attention to the surrounding area, they are much more vulnerable. cheryl: commissioner bill bratton gave a conference where he insisted the nypd work slowdown involving this is coming to an end. >> we are trending up in the sense of each week going by the numbers of arrests are

increasing and going back to what we described as average levels and there is no concise number, if you will, or exact number. cheryl: that slowdown sparked by what police are saying is a lack of support for mayor bill de blasio, today he said he was confident that the police and administration were moving in the right direction. and coming up next, america's top cop remained silent on possible felony charges for america's former top general. what david petraeus did wrong and why the obama administration administration is running away

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cheryl: search teams have recovered one of the black boxes of air asia flight 3501 weeks after it went down in the java sea. they also have retrieved the cockpit voice recorder. eric holder isn't saying whether he will still be on the job. the justice department decided whether or not to bring charges against former cia director david petraeus, he is accused of sharing classified materials with his biographer and then mistress.

prosecutors have recommended felony charges against him, but senators like dianne feinstein and lindsey graham have a also spoken out in support of the general. and france mobilizing 10,000 troops across the country the terror threat is still present following the "charlie hebdo" attack. meanwhile, the wife behind the attack leader was spotted one day after the attack. joining me now is fox news national security analyst k.t. mcfarland. so you know this. how these terrorists are getting out of france. >> here is what happened you are a citizen, you can travel throughout europe, you don't have to have a visa, nobody stands your passport. go through and you get all the way over to turkey and then turkey has a border that is porous with syria. the equivalent of travel agents that help people get from turkey

into syria fight five crisis get trained by them, get rattled allies and then come back and go home. they are well-funded, they get back to their country of origin, they know how to move around and they are citizens of that country. they know how to move and that is what they do, they know how to recruit and set up cells, we think one of the terrorists in paris with somebody was a travel agent. you help people go that route. cheryl: the older brother had trained with al qaeda. but he had had this. so let's talk about these no-go zones. how concerned should we be? these are young poor moslems who are immigrants and they are not being introduced to paris society, they are shunned. >> i have watched this come at a demonstration yesterday, your

heart bleeds for what has happened, it's a great show of solidarity on the part of the president of the united states. great show for western values and i can't help but think what happens tomorrow. unless the leaders are willing to dismantle those no-go zones and go when and make those part of their own country or society. they are never going to get a radical because in the zones there is the sharia court and if you go in he could get his police car bomb if an ambulance is called in an emergency, they won't go unless they are escorted by police. sometimes 50% unemployment there are ripe for recruitment. >> the obama administration blamed security, coming out and saying that eric holder

apparently didn't go, what kind of message does this send to the jihadis? are we showing a weak front by not showing up and not being a part of this? >> well, when we were attacked, they all came to our aid and they followed us in iraq and afghanistan and what are we saying to them? well, this is your problem. and the president says either i don't want to go because it would've been a distraction, that means i'm such a big deal. >> benjamin netanyahu has the biggest target on its back of all. and they say you know, you're on your own. and they say we won't even call it radical islam. at the same time the president of egypt was calling him out. >> we won't use the word

terrorism. >> whether islamic or muslim or jew howdy. >> we talked about this earlier about what is the reason. is it because you have benjamin netanyahu? his bosses are as well, i think that was one of the most surprising opportunities. >> what an opportunity for the american president to get those two guys to say that you have to sit down and talk. i think a lot of it is that to the ideology of the obama administration. we are going to do everything different than bush, they became enamored with the muslim brotherhood. and it was another radical jihad group another the obama administration -- they're not sure what to do and i so i think you're not doing anything. >> we have other terrorists that are out there as well that might be on the run. >> we have not seen the last of them yet. cheryl: we will make some reckless when we catch them.

okay, thank you so much for coming on the show. cuba today completing the release of 53 political prisoners, the obama administration calls the move a very positive development ahead of high-level talks taking place from investments and immigration and we are coming right back. >> the obama administration is a no-show in pairs tom marino on the white house's excuses and why he couldn't bring himself to show unity in the face of

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cheryl: the white house today blasting house republicans over department of homeland security funding and amendments being considered this week that would defund president obama's executive amnesty. >> house republicans put forward department of homeland security funding legislation through the end of

fiscal year 2015. unfortunately, republicans have also unveiled plans to muck around with that legislation. this is legislation that funds their efforts to protect our ports and our borders. it provides aviation security it bolsters our cyber security. it improves our counter terrorism across the community. there's never a good time for republicans to do something like this. but right now it seems a particularly bad time for them to do so. >> joining me, tom is president of the homeland security committee. congressman, good evening and welcome. >> good evening, cheryl. thank you. so you heard from josh earnest in that sound bite he says house republicans are mucking around. they say you're using the 40 blan dollar homeland bill and you'll defund his executive

orders on immigration. gut the funding for his executive order for immigration. is that what you're doing? >> it would be nice if my colleagues on the other side of the aisle would state the facts. it's not touching homeland security. it's stopping the president's unconstitutional overreach for amnesty. this is about a rule of law. nothing in homeland security will be touched except stopping him from using funds that should be used on other things. cheryl: where should the funding come from? i know you don't want him to have funding for executive action on immigration. where would the funding come from? >> i know. it's an overreach of executive order. it's unconstitutional. that's why we have three branches of government. there should be no funding whatsoever. the president has the tendency to continue to bring up executive orders. and he forgets that we're the legislature. what we do is we control

the purse strings. we can give it and take it away. we can legislate and if he continues the overreach, we can address those orders such as the amnesty through the courts. cheryl: it's interesting because this could be the year -- look at the amount of veto threats we've already have. keystone, executive amnesty for that keystone pipeline, the veto threats from the white house are fast and furious. is this what we can expect from this congress? we're one week in to this session. >> you heard the president say from the beginning he was going to veto several bills. that's no way to start a congressional two years. simply he -- he said he was going to meet halfway. he was going to talk on things. he's not doing that. the issues that are important as i said the overreach of the president is unconstitutional. we need to secure the

borders. which will protect our country. we need to lower taxes which will create jobs. we need to do regulatory reform, which will create jobs. one of the biggest things is to protect the american people from obamacare. those are the concentrations we should be focusing on. cheryl: and also protect our borders and the american people from -- and i take this from mike mccaul. he said, you know, we should be expecting more paris-like attacks in this country. how concerned should americans be right now that we could be under attack like they were in paris last week? >> we need to be concerned and more vigilant. this country has done a good job to stop the 9/11 attacks. now what we have to do from the federal government and use the resources at homeland security to help train states and locals and to educate people on what to look for and how to be vigilant.

cheryl: i want to get your reaction. no one from the administration was in paris for a rally with 44 countries state leaders from around the world. netanyahu was there. merkel was. it was a whose who. we weren't there. what was your reaction? >> i'm embarrassed. i'm deeply disappointed. i'm vice president of the nato alliance. where i talk to 20 plus people around the world and they say where is the united states? where is the president? we look to the president for leadership and advice. we look to the united states for support to help us defeat terrorism to build the economy. and my belief is that the president doesn't care about foreign affairs or he doesn't know how to deal with it. cheryl: the white house said they'll have this homeland summit and i think some social workers. so that will be their next plan. congressman tom, thank you very much, sir. >> my pleasure.

good night. cheryl: well now, we can box off this. the newest thriller ended the hobbit's reign. took the top spot. yes, one of our ours. paramount's selma finished in second place. and disney's into the woods came in third with under $10 million. let the oscar -- best actor nods went to michael keaton and eddie for the theory of everything. best actress to julie. and amy adams for big eyes. best honors went to the grand budapest for best comedy. and boyhood for best drama. we're coming right back. this time it's not a movie studio. the islamic state conducting jihad on the us military. cyber expert bruce parkman on the latest

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of american families, and we have to stop it. if we're going to be connected, then we need to be protected. cheryl: but while the president was speaking, the twitter and youtube accounts were hacked by the islamic state. the pages were taken down. not been restored to order. for more on the cyber attack i'm joined by the founder of the maccallum group. bruce, great to have you. >> cheryl, thank you so much for having me on the show. cheryl: their website was attacked while he was talking about cyber security. are we behind the ball? >> not really. i don't see this as nothing more than a coincidence. when terrorists or hackers mess with us they want to make a connection between an event and a hack. they'll say something. the messaging that was released during this comprise of the twitter account indicated that they -- there was no

connection between the two of them. but, you know, at the same time central command needs to investigate this. make sure that their access controls are in place. look at how this hack, how the comprise occurred, and then look at how they're going to go ahead and increase the security measures that they either have on the account or the people that have access to the account. >> but this is the official us -- the -- i don't care if it's twitter or instagram this is why it's so troubling. we're learning more tonight. more details, you know, pro isis messages. the video was that sent. emails partial social security numbers. this hack was broader in scale, it seems. and they'll have to do serious investigations. if we can't protect them, what else can we protect. >> this is comprise of a

social media system, which is not connected to anything at the us central command. while they did post and a lot of the stuff they posted was readily available, open source material, none of it was sensitive or classified. this was clearly an attempt to demoralize our soldiers. and it should be recognized as nothing more than that. a hack in the security sense of the world means they actually penetrated our national security systems. this did not take place. cheryl: part of what the president talked about. we're under the threat of cyber terrorism and physical terrorism. the cyber world the president said this should be a public private partnership to defeat cyber attacks around the world. do you see anything wrong with that strategy? >> no. but the problem is right now the government needs to take the first steps in establishing the trust between the private and public sector. through regulation, and

if they pass some of the cyber security regulation they're looking at like the cyber information sharing act they'll put their foot on the neck of the american business more and more. they have to realize that regulation comes with a price to business and that, yes if they're going to want to -- i think one of the first things they should do is create a national capability that has the ability to investigate cyber attacks because they have the resources of the department of justice and the fbi and then hack back in defensive us companies and show us the consumer the american company that the american government has my back. when that happens you'll see a lot more trust take place between the public and private sector. cheryl: before i let you go, really just about an hour ago there was a posting on facebook, it's kind of gone viral that the hacking group anonymous says

they'll go after isis in the cyber world. you have anonymous who has done a lot of destruction to us corporations going after isis. what do you make of that? i was a bit surprised by that. >> well, heck maybe it was anonymous that took down north korea for maybe those nine hours two or three weeks ago. this is a critical point when you talk about cyber security that you never know who is actually conducting the attacks. and if anonymous decides to go after isis, i mean, you never know who your enemies are. this might be one of those phrenmy points. you never know who your friends are sometimes. cheryl: i tell you what we learn from all this, especially from that attack today. bruce, thank you very much. great to have you on the show. >> thanks again. take care. cheryl: spacex dragon capsule

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cheryl: on wall street stocks moving lower. the dow falling 96 points. the nasdaq dropping 39 points. volume, 3.4 billion shares. crude oil continuing, settling above $46 a barrel. alcoa beating expectations. shares moving higher in after hours trading. well, here with us his

outlook, moody's chief economist, john. let's talk about i think the oil story. i mean five-year low we're looking at now. >> it is amazing. and right now it looks as though the price of crude oil will test the lows of the great recession. that occurred in february 2009, when it got us under $40 a barrel. we could see that happening fairly soon. despite the fact that today's economy is much healthier than the start of 2009. >> there's eight states that have gasoline under $2 a gallon. on one side of the debate it's low oil bad for markets and stocks. on the other side, this is great for the us economy. as long as congress doesn't come along and up the gas tax, we're in good shape. this will be good for the us economy. where do you stand on this? >> this has to be a positive for consumer

spending. the balance sheets for many households is still stretched. the savings might just go into saving as opposed to spending. we also want to take into account that the drop in energy prices is putting a lot of downward pressure on treasury bond yields. that translates into a 30-year mortgage yield of three and a half to 3.6%. housing sector share prices moving sharply higher. thus far in the 2015 in the anticipation that extraordinarily low mortgage yields will spur home sales. >> okay. we're getting into earnings. this is our time to look inside us companies and see how they're doing. multinationals. and a lot are concerned about the dollar. when you have the stronger dollar, it will hurt the us multinationals. is that something we need to look at? >> i think the market will try to look through the degree through which corporate earnings are -- markets will be

interested in what is going on with corporate sales, both revenue growth and the united states. the expectation right now is that income from continuing operations after growing by nearly 9% annually in the third quarter grows by just 3% in the fourth quarter. of course, if that's true that tells me that businesses are going to be more cautious when it comes to staffing employee compensation, and capital spending. cheryl: i have to ask you this. a little political. the big debate is keystone pipeline. that pipeline could bring, not just the building of the pipeline. most jobs are short-term, but the long-term value, economically of the keystone pipeline to the southern part of the country. texas, louisiana oklahoma are we the map -- >> i think right now because of the drop in oil prices, exploration and production activity has to be sagging in texas, louisiana, they could use this type of boost. and plus, this is --

yeah, in terms of jobs. and this is in long-term national security interest. it's great to have this extra additional access to crude oil from canada going straight down to your major refining region. >> the department of state, the border issue certainly. really quick. jobs in this country. do you think we'll have that labor participation rate change in a positive direction and do you think wages will go up? the market was upset. we worry on friday besides terrorism was the fact that wages aren't rising. >> and they're probably not going to rise. you know, the problem is this. we have a lot of global slack. we have a stronger dollar exchange rate. and labor markets have become increasingly globalized. it's cheaper than ever for a us corporation to outsource computer programming in india. my guess is wage growth

will do a little better than december. don't look for any big upsides on the labor front. the only way you'll make good money is if you're good at what you do in a good industry. cheryl: yeah stem. good to see you this evening. we'll see, of course, what happens with keystone. lots of things. be sure to listen to lou's financial reports three times a day on the salem radio network. lou will be back tomorrow. a panel named the 2015 volkswagen golf the car of the year. and the ford f-150 the truck of the year. big win for ford which spent tens of millions of dollars revamping the f-150 with an aluminum body to shave 700 pounds off. also grabbing a lot of attention, ford's new gt a carbon super car featuring a v6 engine

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cheryl: now, the quotation of the evening. this one from founding father and second president of the united states, john adams. no man who ever held the office of president would congratulate a friend on obtaining it. mitt romney calling donors over the weekend telling them he's considering a third presidential win potentially setting up a battle with jeb bush for the 2016 nomination. it comes as another 2016 hopeful removing his name from contention. congressman paul ryan. wall street journal jason riley is here. and ellen is here. she's also a fox news contributor. welcome to you both. jason, let's start with you. paul ryan saying that he won't attempt it. he has other things to do. what do you make of the race -- >> he has a nice committee he'll be

running. he's a detailed guy. i think he wants to be in charge of the committee. and i think this is not that big of a surprise. cheryl: he's young. >> he's young. doesn't have to do it this go around. what's more interesting, the more interesting development is romney getting in or talking like he's getting in. and bush talking like he's getting in. two guys that will not only occupy or be tapping into the same donors, but also the same voters. they're really occupying the same part of the political spectrum which makes it interesting that both want to jump in. cheryl: i'm noti'm not sure those same donors will be with mitt romney this time around. especially those voters in florida that he made the remarks about the 48%. where you have bush with the family name. >> between romney and bush bush does a little better than governor romney. however, could there be

a spoiler? could the two of them get into such a race that there's a spoiler that then winds up being there, just by the sake that there's a race between the two of them. that's a definite possibility. cheryl: there you go. rand paul. what are the spoilers out there right now? >> there are a number of them. ted cruz. rand paul. someone like a ben carson. mike huckabee has made noises. they're occupying very different parts of the spectrum that these two. both former governors. both considered establishment republicans. and it will be very interesting to see. others that may play in this space are chris christie. john kasich, the governor of iowa. it could get crowded. cheryl: let's look at france for a moment. the administration, many are saying this was a huge fumble for the president to not go to that rally over the weekend. what did you make of it? >> well, i'm not as concerned as about the

president. i'm concerned they didn't send someone high level. they had a vice president who did not go. cheryl: eric holder was in town. >> eric holder was in town and secretary kerry was in india. how far is that from paris? a lot of the plans weren't made until the last-minute. to not send someone high level, besides the president, i can't even talk about it. it's unspeakable. i'm on the american board of reporters without borders. this is a huge issue for us. to not have a representative of high caliber from the united states is -- cheryl: you have to wonder if eric holder knew -- he's not a head of state. merkel. maybe he realized he wouldn't get a shot at the crowd. the photo op wouldn't be there. >> i think the white house made this call. it's not a knock on the

u.s. it's a knock on the west. the president has symbolic powers. even after six years president obama doesn't seem to recognize this. this was an attack on an ally. it was an attack on western civilization. an attack on our values. and you would think the supposed leader of the free world would want to stand in solidarity with others pushing that. i believe he's apologizing because of how it looked. because of the blowback. >> we don't know why. they clearly realized they made a mistake. no question about that. and josh earnest today said that in very clear terms. ellen, i have to ask you real quick before i let you go. does this hurt the administration any further? >> well, it doesn't help. it doesn't help. cheryl: all right. well, thank you very much. pleasure to see you both. thank you for being here tonight. that is it for us tonight. lou dobbs will be back

tomorrow. he's ordered me to say go ducks. lou is at the game. he's routing for the ducks. go ducks. cavuto is coming up next. thank you for spending the hour with me. neil: a look at times square where police officers are on high alert because after the attack on france, isis is promising an attack here in the united states. welcome, everybody, i'm tom sullivan in for neil cavuto. nypd responding to a chilling isis -- shoulders, civilians hereby in the united states. the former new york city police commissioner bernard to the financial capital of the world. what do you make of this bernie? >> tom, this is -- these threats are no different than the threats we've seen since 9/11. they're increasing they're not diminishing in any way. i think paris was pretty