committee marking up a bill that would give homeland security two years in which to gain operational control of high traffic areas along our southern border with mexico. five years to succeed in that objective for the entire border. the bill introduced by committee chairman congressman mike mccall needs more infrastructure including 27 miles of new border fencing. there will also be aerial surveillance using defense department equipment to proventil legal crossings of our border. if dhs officials fail to meet

any of the bill standards they would face significant penalties, including an end to all bonuses and salary increases. joining us a member of the house republican leadership who has led the way on an approach to immigration legislation. chairman of the house judiciary committee. mr. chairman good to have you with us. >> good afternoon. >> i would like to go through a few chronological issues here. the invitation of netanyahu is a stirring moment of maneuver on the part of the speaker. and the white house obviously left dumbfounded, flat footed as a result. your thoughts? >> well first of all you look at this president's state of the union address yesterday and you say, there he goes again. this speech was chock full of things that the american people didn't vote for in november. mistrust. overregulation of the economy.

putting a burden on american families. take away the college savings tax benefits that millions of american families rely upon to send their families to college. in the midst of that, he issues four veto threats when he is is supposedly coming to the congress to talk about working with the congress for the benefit of the american people. they don't buy it. we didn't buy it. the speaker didn't buy it. so i think that the invitation which i'm so pleased prime minister netanyahu has accepted is a strong signal that the congress will watch this like a hawk and we are going to take measures necessary to do our duty to protect the people of this country from a country like iran getting nuclear weapon withes and we're not going to simply rely on what the president tells us when he stands there and says i'll veto anything you try to do to put iran in check. if legislation passed by the congress that has imposed the sanctions they already have is that have brought us to the limited point where we are now

and we need to push this president to take us a lot further to assure us that iran is not going to get nuclear weapons. >> pushing the president further and ensuring border security is the mike mccall legislation, the mccall bill to secure our borders, the first bill moving today. do you believe that it can win significant support, significant defined as veto proof support? >> well, i don't know about veto proof support, but i do know it's going to get strong conservative support. i and my staff on the house judiciary committee and other committee members, some of who serve on the homeland security committee, have worked closely with him to make sure we have a very strong bill. and i think he's done just that. they're working it through the committee right now. and i think this is very important to accepted a strong message. again, we have a president who could enforce the law right now. he's not doing that.

there's a tremendous amount of mistrust here. but we need to send the signal of how it should be done right. this is a very good first step. the judiciary committee will follow right behind with the interior enforcement legislation, legislation giving state and local governments a clear rule to enforce our immigration laws. and electronic verification of employment to make sure every business in america is check to go verify that the person applying for a job is indeed lawfully present in the united states and therefore entitled to a job. that's i think the next steps in this process for a step-by-step reform of our laws need to be reformed. but the first thing we need is for the president to enforce the laws now. instead, he's going the opposite direction by granting amnesty to 4 to 5 million people.

that's a separate battle, but one we have to put right at the forefront as well. >> let's examine those two issues. one is the legislation that you already moved from your committee, focusing on interior enforcement, verify. the legislation the approach that you have taken on resolving our illegal immigration crisis in this country is incremental. it is rational and effective. is the leadership that is speak speaker boehner, are they enthusiastically endorsing what you're doing here to the point they're prepared to lead with a republican version now of the goodlatte legislation and make a real difference and hopefully resolve the country can's crisis that has been absent now for over a decade? >> i believe there's strong support from our leadership and

virtually the entire republican conference in the house to do the kinds of enforcement measures that need to be put in place. but, again what we really need is a president of the united states who is going to enforce the law, not flout the law, which is what president obama is doing. this will show the american people there's a right way to do this. and i think we should push ahead with this approach. >> and at this point you're going to move ahead. what is your next step? >> well, our next step in the judiciary committee will be to look at bills that we brought up in the last congress. you'll recall we have had four bills through the house judiciary committee, all of them good bills. and look to see what improvements can be made to them. and then start moving those bills out of the committee. the difference i hope we'll see this time is that not fearing a

comprehensive immigration reform bill of barack obama and harry reid and others in the united states senate. but with a new senate we should also pass the bills through the house of representatives to show the american people -- >> how do you soon do you think it will be passed by the full house? >> i don't have a timetable yet, but i would hope early in this first year of this congress. >> congressman, always good to talk to you. chairman of the house judiciary committee. >> thank you. the state of the union sounded like a wish list from lefty on the loose. it's the republicans who look like they're turning the page. carl rogue joins us next. you get sick you can't breathe through your nose... ddenly... you're a mouthbreather. well, put on a breathe right strip and instantly open your nose up to 38% more than cold medicines alone so you can breathe and

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republican leaders today rejecting the president's four veto threats. and his partisan proposals last night. >> this kind of partisanship is what we have become accustomed to from the president. and we know the president may not be wild about the people's choice of the congress but he owes it to the american people to find a serious way to work with the representatives that they elected. >> we need to fix our broken tax

field, balance our budget, replace the broken health care law with solutions that lower costs and protect jobs. >> joining us now is karl rove, former deputy chief of staff for george w. bush, republican strategist. karl i have to say that john boehner impressed me profoundly perhaps for the first time in his 10 year in a joint section of congress. it was a stroke of brilliance. and i suspect they're still choking on it at the white house. >> yeah. they've got to be upset at the white house. and, look, underneath the surface there is something even more disturbing. that is you have a significant number of democrats in the house and senate who are supportive of this backup sanctions bill. remember, this doesn't impose sanctions on iran. it simply says that in the event that they're unable to reach an

agreement that the sanction tools will be immediately available to the president. and it allows the president even to slip the deadline like he has been doing. you just have to go to the congress and say i'm going to try for another 30 days. i'm going to continue to try to negotiate this beyond the deadline that i have publicly stated. so white house can't be happy about this netanyahu is going to provide a principled and i think powerful case for the necessity of reigninging in iran. and they're going to have a large number of democrats on the hill led in the senate by the just recently removed -- just recently the chair, menendez. >> menendez talking about the tyrrhenian talking points of the president. turning to domestic issues and powerfully important issues job

creation restoring prosperity to an economy that is -- we're in the midst, as you well know of the worst economy following to be termed a recovery from recession in our modern history. and the republicans talking last not night. senator ernst is talking about jobs and the american dream. and she talked about the middleclass. that was so, i think, a breakthrough moment for the republican party. i don't know whether you would agree with me. i don't know whether you think the republicans will follow through. >> i hope they do. yeah. look, i like the comments we heard from party leaders last night. paul ryan was particularly effective. and this is an opportunity. republicans need to understand this is an opportunity to go on the offense. sure, 2 million more people are

working that we had at the time when the recession began in september 2007. there were 138 million americans working then. there are 140 million americans working today. on the other hand, there are 14 million more americans who are not in the workforce because there weren't jobs for them. think about that. we have going -- 2 million more people have gotten jobs since the end of the recession. but we have 14 million more net no longer in the workforce or tried to get in the workforce and have given up. that is an astonishing comment on the weakness of the economy. we have 2.1 million more people working part-time, though they want full time work and can't find it. and the president seemed to say we have turned the page. now the next one is free community college for everybody and higher taxes? i have to tell you, karl, i heard reverberations of mission accomplished in those words of

his. and i think it was a very bad choice of language on his part. the middleclass at this point defined by purchasing power in which statistic you choose it is less by 5% to 11% than it was in 2009 when this president moved into office. we are shutting down more businesses than we're creating in this country. we've got 93 million americans not working. and we have a serious serious challenge before us because we have a president who thinks he can say he won two elections. and that's quite an adequate response. >> right republican party that is going to have to accommodate less of its oldest allies. that is k street, the chambers of commerce and business roundtable and what hopes will be new allies, that is working men and women, men and women and their businesses are the principle creator of jobs.

>> yeah. well, small business people have been historically very republican. what's interesting the last couple of elections particularly in 2014 and 2012 was working class white voters have moved solidly into the republican voting column. they don't identify as republicans as much as they vote for republicans. you're right. we've got to identify with those people and make certain that the republican agenda gives them hope and optimism that life is going to be better. last night it was interesting. a lot of those people are trying -- if they're trying to save for their kids's education many of them are using 529 plans. >> right. >> 14 million people have these accounts in the states that offer them. and the president last night said we're going to take the savings that you're putting away tax free for your kids's college education. and when you draw it out and write the tuition check, we're going to slap a tax on that. so when you write the check to the college for your kid, you have to write a tax to the

government. and this was a big mistake. and saying, why are we doing that? isn't it -- wasn't the purpose of that original creation of tax-exempt savings accounts for education an attempt to encourage people who didn't have the means normally to do that to be able to access college. >> and there's to me a more fundamental issue in it all. education in this country is an opportunity for all who show both the skill the talent, the intellect and the energy and the desire to be educated. it's ameritocracy. it is not a gift from on high. >> right. >> whether on high is president obama for the federal government. >> one last point. >> sure. >> the president is saying free community college at the same time the department of education is trying to put out of business every for-profit college in

america which have a higher retention rate higher graduation rate and higher job placement rate than community colleges do. but they are part of the free market free enterprise community. he hates those. he wants free community college instead. insane. >> why not free trade school, free vocational training, free four-year schools. and a c-plus requirement to get into them. >> he said you had to keep up your grades. you had to get a c-plus average in order to get free education. >> well that sounds like more than one of my semesters. thank you, karl. appreciate it. >> thank you, lou. >> up next why americans are paying too high a price for the president's refusal to talk straight to the american people and, indeed, to the world.

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minds to support their cause. a few comments now on a president who seemingly can do

president seemingly can do anything with language but talk straight. during his hour-long news conference, the day filed with five-minute-long answers. president obama once again refused to use the term radical islamist terror. is it perhaps because he is so frightened of radical islamists terrorists himself or he feels he can win favor with the radical islamist terrorists by denying their ideology and their belief system and their very existence. despite what has been our national experience in two decades of radical islamist attacks against u.s. interests the united states itself and american citizens. this president today referred to the terrorists we have been fightings a phenomenon not a global threat by radical

islamist terrorists. >> this phenomena the ideology the networks the capacity to recruit young people, this has metastasized and it is widespread. and it is penetrated communities around the world. i do not consider it an existential threat. as david said this is one that we will solve. >> wow. as i listened to him i was thinking this is 2007. and here is a junior senator untested, untried, unschooled speaking about something that is utterly beyond his experience, his comprehension and instead he is using the word phenomenon after six years in office and one in which the president doesn't consider to be an existential threat. not an existential threat.

the president's generous self-indulgence apparently doesn't require him to contemplate why he has not, given his superior comprehension of world affairs, stood before the american people and declared loudly victory in both iraq and afghanistan. could it be that such a catapult from geo-political and military reality would strain even mr. obama else immense capacity to the great unwashed american is citizenry? he and his calledry who prefer their wishes and rationalizations from history to hard facts in which should be objective knowledge. mr. obama's hopes and wishes whatever for and for whatever purpose, are so much is easier for him to shape than all those stubborn geo a little bit and

ideological realities that defy him and defy mr. obama's description of radical islamist terrorism as a phenomenon of violence. no matter it is an inherent it benality. from this president from where he began back in 2009. the obama administration was committed at the outset to replacing the bush administration's term war on terror. do you remember it? overseas contingency operations. let me repeat that. overseas contingency operations. phenomenon sounds transitory temporary, which is of course

temporary. it is also very much an experience owned by this very president who has failed to succeed in two wars in&instead who has retreated. president obama's language is not only asinine and cowardly, it is prissy and banal when you consider his british counterpart standing next to him today, david cameron called such terrorists a poisonous radical death cult. radical islamist terrorists with the as lambic state are swallowing up iraq syria, through libya somalia libya and beyond. the taliban is expanding its power in afghanistan and pakistan. boko haram is devastating nigeria. rather a than destroy those whose names he cannot speak, this president threats over the connotation of radical islamist

terrorists and how to avoid such references as well. apparently at any cost no matter how high the cost to all of us. the quotation of the eve. this one from ben johnson who said, to speak and speak well are two things. a fool may talk, but a wiseman speaks. we're coming right back. the threat of radical islamist terrorism in america. a frightening new record about radical islamists that may be living in your neighborhood. brian morrow of the clarion project tells the us what the obama administration will not.

frightening examples of islamist extremism right here in this country. thousands of radical islamists and so-called islamic villages have been set up across the country. look at this map. groups involved in guerrilla war training. calling for violent jihad and instituting sharia law. here to discuss this is our national security dedicated to exposing the dangers of islamist

extremism in america. ryan, good to have you here. >> thanks for having me. >> i was watching you and bill o'reilly talk about this very issue this week. your report is so absolutely disturbing because there is so little discussion of it on the airwaves, in newspapers magazines across the country. i think people sense what's happening, but they don't have anything comparable to the knowledge base that you have assembled here on this threat within own country. >> right. viewers can go to clarionproject.org and see what's going on in their state. it is referring to the radicals. the fundamental issue is we have heard so much about al qaeda and isis and focus the individuals who are setting off the bomb. you have to focus on the ideology as a whole. you are creating a foundation for all of that to the happen. you're part of the same problem. >> what's interesting is president obama today dismissed

radical islamists, which he won't even use the phrase and said it wasn't an existential threat, dismissing this -- of course it's been, you know, more than a decade of combat in afghanistan, the taliban emerges the victor whom we had destroyed at the outset of that conflict. ideology is what makes it an existential threat. he and dismisses it with his emperor's wand or whatever you may call it. it seems not only irresponsible but purposefully duplicitous. >> it is frustrating for me that now virtually everyone is using these terms in europe and the middle east. no one is getting offended. there is no backlash. you don't want it to appear as if we are waging war on islam

and the entire muslim world. you don't want that backlash. look at our press. moderate muslims are saying we are fighting the islamists. they are using the terminology. why can't we? >> and the question would be why do we have to defend our use of any language. free speech is a right in this country. it is not in europe to the extent it is here. free speech is fundamental to the american experience and to the american culture and our constitution. the group care. they style themselves as a civil rights organization. what are they in your judgment? >> well, in the judgment of justice department and the muslim brotherhood as written in their own document this is an entity of the u.s. muslim brotherhood. it was called the palestine committee. a secret section to advance the agenda through the media. and the fbi wiretapped some of the founders of care at a

meeting in philadelphia in 1993. and you can read these wiretaps the transcripts online. they were specifically take talking about using deception to advance the islamist case. we are fighting for the list lambist cause. now cair says you can't use the word islamist. >> stilling the voices of so many media organizations news outlet. because they are litigious and they have been working diligently is to in effect silence an independent press in this country. hancock, new york. talk about that town in new york and what you have found there. >> this is really amazing. there's a radical cleric in pakistan named sheikh gelani. he is saying i'm setting up these training camps including islamburg in hancock, new york

for guerrilla training. i had a law enforcement source give me video of that training. they have 22 of thesis lambist villages around the country. >> let me ask the director to take this video if you would i would like to see the opening shot of that video. it is really quite something to see the name of this place laid out on that sign. islamberg. it couldn't be more specific, could it? >> no. and this is basically to set up a no-go zone. they are isolating themselves. they are creating a state within a state. and they are very radical. they said jews are examples of human satans and the jews engineered pearl harbor to make us go fight hitler. >> in this country in 2015 we're going to be continuing our discussion with with ryan morrow. we'll be bringing you the

reports of the clarion project and look forward to seeing you soon. thanks for bringing this to the public's attention. >> thank you. >> the country owes you a real expression of thanks. we appreciate it. >> thank you. up next, president obama refuses to say radical islamist. and last night he omitted another term heard in every state of the union address since 2001. what does it all mean? find out next.

i thought you might enjoy seeing this exchange. a florida sheriff setting a reporter straight after making comments about being prepared for a gun fight with a group of murder suspects. >> some of the comments being made last night about shooting the suspects possibly and some comments today about the ready for a gun fight. was that in the heat of the moment? do you have any regret about that? >> i not only have no regret i'm pretty excited about telling you that's exactly what would have happened. make no mistake about it. there is nothing about politically correct in a gun fight. there's no politically correct when you're keeping people alive and well and safe.

and people of this community and these law enforcement officers come first. i meant every word of it then and i mean every word of it now. if you surrender peacefully, that's the way we prefer it. if you start pointing guns on it you can not only plan on but guarantee we're going to surety you. >> he is not hesitating to stand up to the media there. four men accused of a vicious double murder. there's a lot going on in this world we don't understand, including the motives and the thinking of some of our national leadership in this country. help us joining us tonight lieutenant colonel ralph peters, fox strategic analyst author and great american. good evening. >> yemen just as the congresswoman was pointing out,

the idea that this administration won't use the expression radical islamist, robert menendez saying he is using the tyrrhenian talking points, it compounds the middle east. >> mid 1950s america's hard-core left could not admit that stalin got it wrong. remember? >> right. >> obama is revealing himself as hard-core left. could never give an inch. you don't give app inch. you look straight in the eye and lie and lie. repeat the lie repeat the lie. and it sticks with a number of people. and people out there i'm sure who listened to that and thought the president is doing a pretty good job. even as he is facilitating things. iran is building a nuclear empire that would include western afghanistan eastern or all of iraq, the heart of yemen,

syria and probably lebanon. putin is rebuilding his crack pot czarist empire. while this is all going on you have islamist state caliphate. and our president tells us everything is hunky-dory. >> as i said earlier in the broadcast, for all the world, it sounded like he was saying mission accomplished. >> i heard you raise that. and i've done the same thing. and remember, how the media tore bush apart over that. president obama has said mission accomplished again and again. accomplished in iraq. accomplished in afghanistan. yemen was great. i'll tell you a friend of mine inside on the yemen deal, got a text from him this afternoon. he is in despair. he said get our people out now. i hope that's too alarmist. now, this administration is only

concerned with its domestic image. it does not take the world seriously. but the world takes us very seriously. and, lou i'll tell you, i don't think the sky is always falling. but we are facing trifect who just today they ran a trial in the russian media saying nato members, you don't have a part that speaks russian down there. that could be the next ukraine. and we're not taking it seriously. >> not taking it seriously. as you put it the iranian empire, we will see how that unfolds. but we know this they have the full support at this juncture of putin and russia. >> new persian empire with nukes. >> colonel, always great to see you. >> thanks, lou. up next, critics blasting the new movie "selma" as historical fiction, some of them.

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the movie "selma" is setting is off something of a controversy and battle over the legacy of dr. martin luther king, jr. and his struggle for voting rights.

our next guest says the latest social movement of the last century belongs to all americans. great to have you here. i loved your op ed and i love your sentiment. and i am just bewildered at the clash within the "new york times" between two perspectives. thank god for maureen dodd for enlarging it. thank god for you. i mean there are radical views out there. what is your take? >> well you know, i think that race is such a powerful part of the american experience in our narrative. i think there's a lot of white guilt attached to a place like the "new york times", to be quite frank. and i think you see that played out in a condescending manner patronizing.

we'll make excuses for the fact that someone is distorting history. they never said she got it right, which means he would be crazy. no. we should excuse this. this is dramatic license. as maureen dowd points out and i point out, there is something beyond the point of dramatic license when you are taking something like president johnson's role in the 1965 voting rights act and in the selma demonstration and turning it on its head. you're not shaving it. you're not positioning for dramatic effect. you are in fact, con va luting it. that sends the message to me that what this is about is a racial vendetta. she is saying, oh white people had nothing to do with the victories that black people had in the civil rights era. and she's not only going to show it she's going to make president johnson as a white man into the villain for her

purposes. >> yeah. it is -- there is a peculiar perspective or foot in some part of radicalized african-american politicos that suggest suddenly the black experience is uniquely a black experience and is not in any way shared from the civil war through the jim crow era, civil rights era to now 2015. it's bizarre. and i said this. i said that if she were doing a book on gettysburg there would be no union army. >> that's right. >> the civil war started with a slave uprising. >> i know. >> it's incredible.

>> well, look, i just take to heart what you just said. because it was so right. so right on. not only obviously most of the soldiers who died to free the slaves were white were soldiers. but let's continue to in a thought. abe lincoln gee, i don't think he's a black guy. and then you go on down the line. let's just wonder who were the students who went south in freedom summer. oh, gosh, i think they were mostly white kids. imagine that. you think about cheney, goodman and swarner. two-thirds are white people. the idea that somehow dr. king has to be pushed up, elevated by pushing down president johnson, to me it is insulting. believe me, martin luther king is an american hero. when i say american, lou, i mean for all americans, not just a black hero. but i get it is revealing. she must have some deep

insecurity to be doing -- to perpetrate this kind of fraud. one of the things that concerned me in maureen dowd's column, she saw this was full of students given free passes to celebrate dr. king's birthday. they're going to walk away thinking president johnson was a terrible enemy of civil rights in this country. i can tell you the author of not only "eyes on the prize," book and document the ear, but an author on the first supreme court justice who was an american american thurgood marshall, president johnson put the first african-american on the court. the implications of future generations will walk away thinking, oh i know that story and have it absolutely wrong. >> it is i think appropriate on this day that we reflect a bit. there were those who are still reluctant to acknowledge that we as americans -- we are fortunate

enough to have leaders who are true heroes. >> yeah. >> they are white they are black, they are all races all creeds. and that just happens to work pretty well for this country. and it works certainly very well for this country that we had dr. martin luther king jr. to help lead us through that extraordinary, extraordinarily difficult and that is to put it in the mildest of possible terms the, difficult era. >> yeah. >> juan, great to see you, my friend. thanks for being here. >> thanks. my pleasure. thanks for having me today. >> yes, sir. time for a few of your comments. duck tweeted me, that's right duck. al qaeda is on the run. the president won't admit they are winning the race. mike wrote reagan had no problem naming the communists and the threat they posed. why won't this white house do the same with radical islamists? because there is no comparison between this president and mr. reagan. and roger in michigan e-mailed

me, al sharpton needs to be reminded that martin luther king, jr. advocate thad things should be judged by their content not their color. that's it for us tonight. thanks for being with us. see you tomorrow. good night from new york. [ dynamic music plays ]