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bring some chocolate. it's almost valentine's day. okay, thank you so much for watching a show tonight. follow me on twitter at kennedy nation. that is my handle on facebook and instagram as well. i will see you tomorrow night. thank you . in orlando. . lou: good evening, everybody. i'm lou dobbs. the islamic state trying to prove that it's bolder and more brutal than ever despite a six month war with the united states and coalition nations. the radical islamist terrorists today releasing one of the most violent execution videos that shows a jordanian pilot being burned alive in a cage. the barbaric act provoked demonstrations and jordan is now vowing to avenge the pilot's death with a, quote, earth-shattering response one will include the execution of
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the female bomber that the islamic state wanted to trade. president obama saying the murder will only encourage the coalition in its fight against the islamic state. >> i think we'll redouble the vigilance and determination on the part of a global coalition to make sure that they are degraded and ultimately defeated. that is also just indicates the degree to which whatever ideology they're operating off of, it's bankrupt. lou: we'll take up the debate about how much we should be doing in the fight against the islamic statement we'll be talking with general jack keane. senate democrats successfully blocked the bill that would have funded the department of homeland security and gutted the president's amnesty fiat for illegal immigrants. and if it's not the president asking for more taxpayer
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dollars, it's the bureaucrats who worked for him. irs commissioner john koskinen asking congress for more money as the irs continues to make billions in improper payments to illegal immigrants. senate finance committee member senator mike crapo will join us to talk about whether the irs will get any more of our money or whether it will be cleaning house? we begin tonight with another heinous and barbaric murder by the islamic state terrorists. a gruesome act that according to jordanian officials happened a month ago. fox news chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge with the report. >> reporter: the father of the jordanian pilot lieutenant moaz al-kassabeh overcome by grief after learning the news his son was dead, burned alive by isis terrorists. the jordanian government was quick to confirm what it called an assassination which would not go unanswered. >> whoever doubted the unity of
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jordan will be proved wrong. whoever doubts jordan's stern and lethal response will be proved wrong. >> reporter: mr. obama condemned isis and yet another savage act. >> we'll redouble the vigilance and determination on the part of a global coalition to make sure that they are degraded and ultimately defeated. >> reporter: isis wanted to swap the pilot for the al qaeda suicide bomber in jordanian custody, and tonight multiple sources in the region report she has been moved from death row and will be executed by dawn. as crowds fill the streets of the capital amman, jordan the pentagon said beating a human being alive would work against isis. >> i absolutely do believe it will back fire on them in the region. >> reporter: the propaganda video is a departure for the terror group. much longer than previous tapes, with special effects
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that give it a video game feel. there are overlays of sound and multiple camera angles suggesting it took days to compile. the death of the jordanian pilot and the promise of retaliation by amman. >> the president has ordered his team to devote all of the available resources that we have to try and locate anybody, but particularly americans who are being held hostage by isil. >> reporter: on capitol hill the king of jordan met with lawmaker during two previously scheduled meetings. democrats and republicans emphasize the need for u.s. leadership. >> the barbaric tactics of our enemies have reached incredible low with the burning alive of this jordanian pilot. they are resolute in their determination to kill our allies and kill us. >> the apparent execution of the jordanian soldier certainly underscores the brutality of
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the enemy that we're all facing. and underscores again what having a strategy to defeat isis is really important. >> reporter: the cruelty of the islamic state is well documented but analysts say the new video and extreme brutality are designed to further enflame tensions in jordan and send a message to gulf nations on the periphery of the u.s.-led coalition, in washington catherine herridge fox news. lou: it's been nearly two years since the internal revenue scandal publicly grope but republicans are grappling with an administration that has stonewalled throughout as they search for answers and accountability. the senate holding a hearing on the matter, another document dump on tens of thousands of e-mails including those from the woman at the center of the scandal lois lerner. our chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel with the report. >> the american taxpayer
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deserves better from the federal agency that collects their taxes, and we're going to do everything we can to make sure that the irs is held accountable. >> reporter: yet 20 months into the irs investigation frustraugz is building as congress pushes for answers but the obama administration content to drag it out. in addition to as many as six congressional committees looking into the irs targeting of conservative groups there is a probe at the justice department. >> these are matters that have been under investigation for some time. i'm satisfied with the progress of criminal division has done a civil rights division as well, and i expect it will have some final recommendations coming up relatively soon. >> reporter: former official lois lerner revealed the targetings in may 2013 and retired. there's been serious interest in reading her e-mail communications. today republican senate finance chairman orrin hatch revealed another document dump by the irs. >> and late last month, this
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hill say this is a test of wills between lawmakers looking for answers and the administration to see if congress will stay on oversight or move on out of frustration on. capitol hill mike emanuel, fox news. lou: house republicans holding their 56th vote over the past four years to repeal obamacare and the vote passed again. this time 239-186. president obama has already threatened to veto the legislation, but it does get the 114th congress on record that americans support the repeal of obamacare. 60% of all voters want all our parts of obamacare repealed. among the reasons, the cost keeps rising. the latest estimates show the health care law will cost $50,000 per enrollee. $50,000! and by the way, 31 million americans still will be without
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health care coverage despite the passage of the law. not to mention obamacare was passed on what may be the biggest campaign of lies ever perpetrated against the american people. on wall street today, stocks and oil surging heavy tradeingly and a happy result. the dow jumping 305 points the s&p up 29, the nasdaq up 51 point. volume on the big board, the heaviest of the year 4.6 billion shares. crude oil up more than 7% today settling above $53 a barrel for the first time this year. we are coming right back. stay with us. . why would any president ignore his intelligence and military advisers? so how many more gitmo detainees will we return to the battlefield?
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. lou: the brutal murder of a jordanian pilot underscoring the threat of the islamic state. defense officials today warning of another threat from guantanamo detainees who have been released. lieutenant general vincent stewart admits there is little the united states can do. >> over the last four five
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years, about 18% of detainees have gone back into business confirmed to have gone back into business. beside notifying folks that these terrorists have gone back into business, there's very little at this point that dia could do. lou: joining us retired four-star general, former vice chief of staff, general jack keane. there is very little we can do? why does the greatest military on this planet so often, and intelligence agencies along with them, so often have to say there is little we can do? seems we hear it time and time again. >> well i think what he's really saying is he's frustrated with the policy the release policy. i mean that's really the heart of the issue here is why are we releasing people who are going
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back, you know on the battlefield, while we're still on the battlefield ourselves? that makes no stones anybody, but not only are we releasing anybody, we're speeding up the release of them lou. that's what the administration is doing. i'm convinced the five we swapped with bergdahl, now they see the pattern of what the president is doing those five never would have been released under any circumstances except for the swap. that gets five out of gitmo who would not get out under any other circumstance. that's sad commentary. lou: and the head of the dia saying he wasn't consulted on the swap. >> yeah, that doesn't surprise me. a lot of people were not consulted on this swap. that's for sure. and secretary hagel, you know, going out the door at the end of last week was expressing frustration about this himself, in terms of the pressure that the secretary felt and the pentagon on releasing these
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folks that should never have been released. lou: so there's one thing we can say about the administration there's no question who's in charge. and that is president obama. he doesn't seem to pay attention to intelligence. he doesn't seem to pay attention to advisers and counselors. he doesn't pay attention to generals and admirals. so what is motivating the release of the detainees at the risk of american lives in battle? >> yeah, it's indisputable. what is motivating him? the motivation is to close gitmo. and because congress has a shackle on actually doing that he's going to empty it which de facto closes it. lou: and closes it to the benefit of whom? is he simply going to turn it over to the castros? what will he do? >> that i don't know. certainly, i would hope that we don't give up this base this strategic base in the caribbean
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that we've had going back to the beginning of the century. i hope that's not on the table as well. but the facts are we are releasing people on a regular basis who are going to get back in the fight, and it does risk us, does risk u.s. soldiers because they are in the fight, and also risks our national interests because the conflict is still going on. lou: turning to the islamic state. we have a president who says the islamic state is not islamic. he refers to the ideology of the islamic state but doesn't correlate that to a belief system that most people would consider to be the structure, the architecture of a religion. what is this president trying to do? what is his purpose in denying the meaning of language semantics is not an apt word because it means meaning, which
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obviously holds not much value for this president? >> i think there's a couple things going on here it's tough because we're trying to get inside somebody else's head. but clearly he's trying to make a point that if you use the word islamic to describe radical islam, you are actually in fact somehow associating that radical islam with the overwhelming majority of muslims who do not hold that view. that's one point. and i disagree with that wholeheartedly because the facts are that inside the religion of islam there is a war going on between the radicals on the one side and the moderate and traditional muslims on the other, and that's not disputable either. the second thing is and maybe a little bit more deep-seated is by not dealing with radical islam, they're finding it explaining it so the american
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people and others can understand the challenge here that you don't have to have a strategy to deal with something as comprehensive as this is and that's where we are. we have no comprehensive strategy to deal with radical islam. lou: he has taken, it seemed there's been a -- if you can call it an intellectual journey, a journey from the jv team to devastated defeated on the run, to now simply having i guess, we could say, verbally at least he's disappeared, the terrorists of the islamic state and al qaeda. that seems to be his intent general, thank you for joining us as always. >> always good talking to you, lou. lou: time for a look at our online poll results. we asked what your greatest concern about the american presidency is?
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barack obama or the 47% polled who replied he's doing a good job? 72% of you said you think those who think he's doing a good job. i think that's rational, they'll be around a lot longer than he will. certainly longer than two years. be sure to vote in tonight's poll -- cast your vote at loudobbs.com. it takes a special talent to mess up even a softball interview with nbc. listen to the president talking about the decidedly, well fluffy topic of white house beer sunday. >> we make beer. first president since george washington to make some booze in the white house. lou: beer and booze are
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analogous in his mind. turns out the president deficient in the industry. george washington was dead for a year so he was never the president in the white house. the second president to live, there john adams. getting attention the fact that beer generally isn't considered booze. the president drinks his beer as you noted, pinky up. there's a flash point for any bar in the country. up next, president obama proves he has no understanding at least one that he will share with the american public, when it comes to our nation's enemies. and death row records. founder "suge" knight and controversial actress lindsay lohan keeping their attorneys busy tonight. we could have made the tease longer, that was enough.
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. lou: a few thoughts on the islamic state and the failure of our president and his administration to understand that when confronted with absolute evil we must act to destroy it, without equivocation, without delay. listen to our president struggle today to avoid the words radical islamist. listen to him refer to an ideology and avoid any mention of the religion of islam. as he condemned the brutal obscene murder of the jordanian pilot captured by the islamic state on christmas eve. >> should in fact should video be authentic it's just one more indication of the viciousness and barbarity of this organization. and it i think, will redouble the vigilance and determination
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on the part of a global coalition to make sure that they are degraded and ultimately defeated and it also indicates the degree to which whatever ideology they're operating off of it's bankrupt. lou: the president calling the islamic state dispassionately an organization. killing the jordanian pilot by burning him alive in mr. obama's view will result in as he said the doubling or redoubling of the vigilance and determination. and whatever the foundation of the islamic state's ideology he declares it to be, quote, bankrupt as if he doesn't know the islamic state ideology perhaps the name of the organization as mr. obama calls it might be an imposing clue. he might call it the islamic
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state. here is the president's response to the beheadings of james foley and steve sotloff five months ago. he said the islamic state's ideology is, quote, bankrupt, then declared the islamic state represents no religion just two weeks later, the president called the claim that the islamic state kills in the name of religion, quote, absurd of vowing to fight these terrorists. he didn't call them terrorists. no more than five months later now, this president still refuses to call the islamic state what it clearly is radical islamist terrorists. according to the clarion project, radical islam is the merger a mosque, and state under sharia. the goal being the implementation of sharia law globally through terrorist acts human rights abuses bigotry towards non-muslims and hostility towards the west. a quarter of the state
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department's -- why doesn't our president at least publicly put forward any sense that he understands there is no war between so-called peaceful islam and radical islamists? where is the president's 99.9% of muslims who he said seek only order, peace and prosperity? al qaeda the islamic state, iran are killing vastly more muslims than christians. why can't peaceful devout muslims defeat the radical islamists who slaughter in the name of their religion? why doesn't our president ask these questions and share the answers with the american people? and why is there among some on the right an absolute reflex and impulse to say that we will destroy radical islam no matter what islam has to say?
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and what about that 99.9% of the muslims who want order, peace and prosperity, why are they not fighting radical islam? certainly, not in all muslim countries are there members of the islamic state and al qaeda and their leaders in some countries are making exceptional, exceptional strides. in egypt, in jordan. jordan taking a stand tonight for its people in the fight against radical islamist terrorists. protesters filling the streets in amman while jordan plans to execute at least three radical islamist prisoners including the suicide bomber part of the proposed prisoner swap with the islamic state. our quotation of the evening now, this from corey ten boon who rescued nearly a
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. lou: irs commissioner john koskinen today trying to make a case for more funding, despite a string of scandals at his agency, he testified before the senate finance committee today. >> i would note that we're not asking for more money over history, we're asking for money back that's been taken away. we are actually doing significantly more with significantly less there comes a point at which you have to do less with less because you've reached that point. my concern for the last year is we're beyond the point of being able to do more with less. we are at a point where we have no choice but to do less with less. lou: joining us senator mike crapo, one of the lawmakers on the committee who questions the agency's head. he serves on other key committees and environmental and public works. senator, great to have you with us. your reaction to the director? >> well you know, frankly lou
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this is remarkable. we have the internal revenue service facing scandal, and asking the american people to have a massive new budget increase to put on over 2500 new employees at the irs just to look into our health care. this is part of their request to try to comply with obamacare where the responsibility for looking into the lives of american people on health care has been turned over to the irs. and when the irs can't even convince the american people that it's dealing fairly with them on tax policy i don't think we want to see this kind of a massive new budget increase. lou: and there's got to be great concern because 80 some odd, 86,000 documents dumped on you. 30,000 applied to lois lerner,
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iteration after iteration emanating from the man we listened to leading the agency, now another 30,000 pages dumped on your committee? >> that's true. you may recall just last year when the senate was controlled by the democratic party. this investigation into the irs targeting of conservative groups and individuals was almost concluded. but we were then told all of a sudden that there were thousands and now we find out tens of thousands of new documents that yes, they could find, and so we are reopening this, if you will, and now we are sifting through this massive new set of documents, which includes a phenomenal amount of e-mail and other documents relating to lois lerner, leading the entire agency's focus on targeting, conservative groups and others with whom the administration
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has philosophical differences. lou: i know you guys either party, don't like to use the word, are you starting to believe you've been deceived that you've been -- here's the word -- lied to throughout? >> i have very strong concerns whether the irs has come clean with congress in this investigation. as you may recall this has gone on for months and months in fact years and we don't have all of the documents in front of us. at one point the irs telling the american people there was a computer glitch and they lost the documents. i think most americans at that point reacted by saying, if i told the irs i left my documents because i had a computer glitch, they wouldn't have put up with that for a minute. and now we're finding out that in fact, they can access these documents. i don't think we have heard the whole or full story from the irs yet. lou: were you -- were you in any way surprised when koskinen said that -- testified that
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those illegal immigrants were allowed to remain in this country under the president's amnesty fiat will be eligible for tax benefits they'll be able to file for past benefits. i had never heard that before. >> i was not surprised by that information. many of us have been saying this for a long time that under the earned income tax credit rules those who are illegally in the country are now going to be able to access those benefits. they are not citizen they are not legally here, but under the president's, i think, illegal executive order, they are now going to be able to get payments from the federal government. but i was, lou, surprised that koskinen admitted it. in the hearing today he acknowledged this is true. that the irs is preparing to make these payments to illegal immigrants into the united states. lou: what i had never heard before is that they would be
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retroactive being able to go back as far as three years for crying out loud. >> yeah, that's true. and that's just a remarkable aspect of this executive heard that we're fighting over here in the senate right now, that i don't think most americans have focused on. lou: are you going to be successful in defunding that element and invalidating the president's so-called amnesty fiat? >> well, we'll be successful if the american people focus on it. today, we had our first major vote in the senate on it, and we did not get enough votes to achieve cloture on the bill that would help to defund that illegal action by the president. lou: 51-48. >> that's correct. and we need 60 votes. we're nota the end of this fight yet. as more and more americans see what this is really about, and realize the unbelievable abuse of power that the president has engaged in and what it means as it ripples through our tax policy and other aspects of our
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economy, that we're going to gain strength. and so we're not there yet but this fight is not over, we're going to see a number of additional votes as the american people continue to focus on this. lou: it's extraordinary. it's outrageous. it is to me inconceivable, it should be inconceivable, that it would be a partisan issue. i cannot imagine why any senator would not be supportive of the measure to roll it back. >> i don't either. lou: senator, as always good to talk with you thanks for being with us, senator mike crapo. >> thank you lou. lou: a new poll finds millennials, those between the ages of 18 and 34 -- i don't know but i just missed that group are alarmingly informed about our nation's politics. a whopping 77% of millennials, that is the largest group, the largest generation of americans couldn't name even one senator from their home state!
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. lou: texas was the first state to file a lawsuit against the president's executive amnesty fiat. now a majority of the states in the union have joined the lawsuit. joining us now, texas attorney general ken paxon. great to have you with us. and with enrollees for -- or at least the possible number of enrollees in the executive amnesty program starts in two weeks. is that going to have an influence on what happens here in the courts? >> well, we're hoping for a ruling from the judge before that happens. we filed for preliminary injunction in december we had hearing on january 15th and hoping for a ruling before that goes into effect. lou: and you see that as a likely reality?
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>> well i think it's very likely we're going to get a ruling. the timing of it we're not sure of, but hopeful this will occur before all of this goes into effect. lou: and with half the states suing the president on this issue, is there anything in law, i mean just the weight of the majority at state suing the president on this issue does, that have any weight in and of itself? >> i don't know. i think it's fairly unprecedented. we have 26 states obviously more than the majority. but ultimately the law is going to control, i think, and i think on the law, we're right. constitutionally and statutorily, the president is in violation. lou: and there's also talk of other elements being joined in this lawsuit on other issues. i mean, this could get to be quite a large lawsuit. do you think it is better that it's focused and focused purely on executive amnesty? >> yeah, i think that's the focus we have right now. we don't have any intention of
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expanding it beyond what it is. relatively simple concept. president himself has said he doesn't have the authority to do this has said he can't wave the magic wand, that congress needs to do something. despite the comments he's made over 20 times over the last six years, he's pursued this action. lou: and the issue of standing, it seems that it is always in focus. i don't know whether it's part of judicial system's ability to simply move out of the way -- of harm's way and to avoid making a decision, but do you think there's sufficient standing that you will have the ability to keep this lawsuit going forward and ultimately winning it? >> you absolutely believe that, we have to show harm and as a border state we can show harm in the cost of this implementation, whether it relates to law enforcement or
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education or health. there's going to be a lot of costs to this. we feel like we do have standing. lou: all right well we look forward to what transpires and, as you suggest it may be sooner than later that we get some indication on the direction. attorney general ken paxton. thanks for being with us. >> thank you. lou: turning to the nfl, patriots quarterback tom brady awarded 2015 chevrolet colorado pickup truck for wing the super bowl mvp award, he's giving the truck to the man who he says may be the real mvp, the undrafted rookie, free agent safety malcolm butler who secured the patriots from defeat and brady is rewarding his young teammate who made arguably the biggest play of the season playing 200 snaps throughout the season. up next rap impresario
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"suge" knight has an eventful day in court as lindsay lohan points her attorneys at a major news organization. we take it up with lis wiehl and mercedes colwin at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like mute buttons equal danger. ...that sound good? not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason? it was geoffrey! it was jason. it could've been brenda. if a denture were to be put under a microscope
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great to have you here. let's start with this mandatory vaccination issue. it's a public health issue. why should there be any issue here whatsoever? >> there shouldn't be. the supreme court has ruled on this twice. the last time in 1944 which was a long time ago. >> not really that long ago. >> okay, lou, okay. obviously. there was a public health issue, which was one of the reasons the supreme court stepped in and said, of course, this is a state issue. there have to be the mandates. >> and it trumped people's rights to religion or to opt out. the problem is the states have created these opt-out provisions so the rule has been followed by the exception. lou: there would have been in my generation absolutely no question whatsoever when we were children if they said vaccination, you're vaccinated
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and moved on. what has changed? >> it's political correctness. that's what changed. because these exceptions that lisa is talking about -- individuals will come forward and say it's against my morals. it's against my religion. they'll find a waiver so that's why the states can't touch it. >> the problem is kids go into public schools. it's like, okay, if you parents want to do this, i think it's wrong that you don't want to get your kids vaccinated. you put your kids in with my kids and my kids get sick because of your kids. lou: go shopping whatever it may be. there is no way to deny that there is a broad ubiquitous absolute health issue here and a responsibility. so how is it resolved? >> essentially it will go to the courts. lou: go to the courts. >> more controversy. the more money we get.
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>> i think it will be resolved. it will uphold what the supreme court said back in your day 1944. lou: actually that was much before i was born. but it's close enough. i get nervous when people -- aaron hernandez kicked off a murder trial. excused because the juror was having too much fun and interest in the case. does that make sense? >> it's cha-ching. cha-ching. any of these high publicity cases, jurors want them. why? they're not restricted in any way. they can go write a book. they can go to the media. talk to the folks. this is what we talked about. this is the evidence. >> this juror wasn't slick enough. >> exactly. >> stealth jurors are people that want to get into the jury pool and write the big book. it's wise for the court to say you're out of here. it won't make any difference on the conviction or not.
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lou: and telling the jurors they could watch the super bowl, but only so long as no one was talking about the case on the air. what? >> i mean, i guess the judge really couldn't restrict them that much. they can't go online and start looking about aaron hernandez and the allegations. the attorneys. lou: oh, for crying out loud. i have to ask you something. you're sitting here with universal media. >> right. lou: and suddenly you're asking somebody to decide on, in this case, whether or not a man spends the rest of his years in jail whether his guilty of murder but you can't trust a juror to read, to watch to listen, for information about the society in which we live. that's a condescending patpatronizing stupid attitude. >> the judge have to do these restrictions. lou: it doesn't recognize the reality.
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>> it could be something on appeal. i heard about this. lou: i'd say judge, you don't think i'm smart enough to make these discriminating, discrete judgments. why do you want me on this jury? >> that's you lou. there will be a juror in the box that will be influenced. lou: sure. it's always the other guy. it's a patronizing attitude -- your profession is really -- >> oh. don't you want 12 of lou in our jury box will be ideal. >> twelve of lou in the jury. lou: suge knight. not guilty to murder charges running over a couple of people. >> he had to plead not guilty because this would be his third strike in california. no choice. he can't plead. he can't do anything like that. he has to take it to trial. >> otherwise jail for
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life. no 25 to life. done. you're done. lou: where do you get the jury that will be dispassionate objective? >> like any other case. go through the same other jury pool. lou: if they listen to his rap -- >> that doesn't disqualify them. >> doesn't matter what i heard or read, i'll be impartial. that's their oath as a juror. that's enough. lou: what about driving over people and backing up? >> something i've tried a few times. they've survived. just kidding. lou: everyone is kidding. >> thank you. lou: they're working all the time, i swear. good to have you here. time now for a few of your comments. the president likes to call iran and cuba negotiations, but he never seems to get anything in return. tim wrote: we have called every enemy what
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it is since the founding of this country, until now. that's it for us tonight. join us tomorrow. good night from new york. nothing. good night. . >> an 8-year-old gets a very strange inheritance. >> when my dad died everyone was heart broken. >> what does a guy do with a winery? >> the funny thing is i would tell my friend's parents and they would totally freak out. >> talk about getting your feet wet in a new business. >> that is really good. >> but how does the family keep it from dying on the vine? >> i didn't know anything about wine except they like to drink it. >> so what's the heir going to do when he grows up? >> trying to prove i'm not the owner's kid who just gets handed these things.
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