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inheritance." thank you for watching and remember that you cannot take it with you. you have a strange inheritance story that you would love to share with us? we would love to hear it. go to our website at strange inheritance.com. ♪ ♪ kennedy: i tell people that we are best friends. truth may be stranger than fiction, but when you are brian williams, it can only be fun. it culminated with him taking a leave of absence from nbc. journalists going back and taking deeper into his tall tales, but he maintains that his memory lapse was unintentional. >> it was my first engagement of the war and remember, i was --
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we were all, i think, scared. i don't know what screwup in my mind cause me to conflate one aircraft from the other. but the fact is that i remember three aircraft going down. i was on one of them. kennedy: there appear to be s te doozies mixed in with the fiction about his incident. he claims in some version of events he also came under fire during the 2006 israel and hezbollah war and was nearly hit by a rocket. he has two distinct versions of this story. williams also said as a teenager he was helping a local church by selling christmas trees out of the back of a truck and once told a new jersey monthly that he was robbed by a man who shoved a 38 caliber pistol in his face and made him give up his do-gooder stash.
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a long time new jersey resident refuted that claim. but don't get brian williams started on hurricane katrina. oh, now. >> when you look out of your hotel room window in the french quarter and watch a man floats these down, when he saw bodies that you last saw in indonesia and swore to yourself that you would never see them in your country, i am beat that storm. kennedy: the manager says that the part of the town that the hotel is located in never went underwater and maybe the basement flooded a little bit. his claim is similar to how he was stricken with dysentery from a microbe that didn't affect anyone else which led to his recovery in the hotel before an armed gang stormed it. >> my two weeks there was not
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helped by the fact that i had accidentally ingested some of the floodwater. i became very sick with dysentery, the hotel was overrun with james, i was rescued in the stairwell of a five-star hotel room in new orleans. kennedy: witnesses astonished we don't remember any of those events and this was years after brian williams strapped on his breathing apparatus and crawled through a burning house, fumbled to a closet and emerged with a newborn puppy. or perhaps it was too depending on the version that he spends, or maybe even a pony. you have emerging themes. he is a saint, brave with everything and no matter where he is, he always takes off
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ammunition the dozen men. the guy is either literally the most interesting man in the world or he is a pathological liar. if the latter is true and the spectators are certain that it is, he should put his yarn spinning to good use and start writing some young adult fiction. and so how does he pick his curious relationship? brian williams can simply do what no gibson and tiger woods and michael richards and other troubled individuals have done before him. after their public breakdown. he can go to rehab for a non-substance abuse issue. he can sit in the sun in malibu and let all of the fabrication tryout one step at a time. but this is no longer about his growing nose, but you wanting to believe the falsehood that certain journalists are demagogues because that is how you were raised. that pristine fantasy that you
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have. the truth is about to set him free. coming up, i will argue with two people that think vaccines are back, and then the what to do about climate change. let's start it, im kennedy. ♪ ♪ kennedy: mary katharine ham has flown over a rock. and perhaps that is why she's critical of brian williams. she's right here with me. it's so nice to have your. >> thank you very much, i am glad that you used the phrase turgid nose because we can all be thoroughly grossed out.
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kennedy: why are people so drawn to the story? >> well, it is literally his job to look at things and then tell people the truth about what he saw. this is certainly center right folks, and many of them say this is always what we say about the media, but we should expect the bare minimum from anchors. i'm not surprised that he has vainly exaggerated his experiences to make himself look like a bad ass. and by the way, many people are talking about the failure of human memory which is a real thing. he has a crew traveling with him dedicated to literally recording every move he makes so that he can check these things. kennedy: that is a good point. the first time you say, okay, i
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know we were in a helicopter, we came under fire, we were a hundred feet above ground, wouldn't the camera guy or your senior producer say that actually was in ours? >> that can happen, but this has been tenures of retelling this and it turns out other stories as well. kennedy: my mom still thinks that justin timberlake is dating cameron diaz. >> that would be tragic. he's going to have to answer this, he and nbc were not the ones to push for something to happen here because it should have been their integrity that they were interested in. kennedy: what do you think that the push should have been? there were whispers that since he has been telling the story and their other people, crew members, people that have been retelling it very differently, that it is a bit of a problem that they don't know what to do.
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>> the military and the stars and stripes, the publication that sort of figured this out, i think it may be a little bit of a culture issue, sort of a michael jackson's doctor thing where no one can tell the famous guy what he needs to hear. the news organization should not be a place where that is the case. i understand that is something that happens. but as you are talking were talking about in your intro, going over all of these stories, does this not point to a curator issue that is deeper than i goofed up the facts? kennedy: that is my feeling that if you tell one story and you get a completely wrong story, there is a way to come back from it. >> we all make mistakes and it happens. kennedy: people understand that. or people are recorded 24/7, it's really easy to have a bunch of a multi-decade career and i think people would grant him that. what it's pointing to and what no one is talking about is he
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may have some sort of a pathological systemic issue. what you do re pathological systemic issue. what you do reign he is obviously a great storyteller. he would do events and any time you insert yourself in the news it might be this way. >> i think that brian williams will land on his feet. maybe not behind an anchor desk, but forces are going to look into more of this, it will probably grow until he's not doing this job anymore. but i'm not sure that he's a guy that should be doing it. that's what some of these stories say. people make mistakes all the time and i did notice when just normal people are thrust into the limelight when they send a tweet about something errand and it goes viral, they get their whole passel and two. but this is a guy that is called to tell the truth and part of his vocation. we are dealing whether he should be involved in that anymore. kennedy: maybe he is like walter
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mitty. maybe he sees these people that are the subject of the news and he kind of wants to lose this objectivity because the subject object distinction has lost its luster. two it is possible that all of the nbc news is a dream. and that we've all wake up. [laughter] kennedy: i hope that that is true on some level. i almost get bored of this national situation where one person is the target, whether it's tiger woods or tom brady. those are all nice assistant jerks that are observed to some extent, but it reaches its critical mass and at some point i'm cheering for brian williams just to be contrary and. >> i think it can be too much sometimes. this is a very well-off public figure that will end up doing speeches probably for the rest of his life in getting paid
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more. so i do think that when you're looking at the stories that are going to build, perhaps pay more attention to the people that go on the record, talking about these stories and not everyone who's throwing darts. we can have better standards when evaluating these things or people are just popping up anonymously. kennedy: maybe there will be more scrutiny because we are learning that a lot of politicians have done this name thing. ronald reagan, george h. w. bush, joe biden, hillary clinton, they have all exaggerated. >> i think you are also right about journalists. they are not infallible in this idea of a golden age of anchorman, it is all kind of nonsense and we have to come to grips with that. but we can hold them to higher standards than we have social media do that. kennedy: i think social media has actually been having a field day and it's been pretty
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lighthearted with the social media treatment of brian williams. mary katherine ham, thank you so much. we will be back in a bit with two people who think vaccines are a bad idea. but first, scandal over climate change coming up next
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telegraph published a piece on climate change ensuring that the temperature has been constantly altered and one of the most costly scares the world has ever known. what should we do going forward with these assertions and claims if they are true. we have the center for energy policy and the environment at the manhattan institute right here. how are you? >> i'm doing great. by the way, congratulation on the new show, look out to megyn kelly. you are on a roll. kennedy: thank you. it's kind of scary. there is a guy who went back and checked some of the weather center in south america where it had been purported that the most drastic climate change was taking place where the earth was getting hotter and hotter and he looked at the published data and
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compared it with the original data and found that the numbers have been manipulated. what does this mean for the entire premise that the earth is getting hotter? >> you know, i read that story a couple of times and i read the other reactions to it. honest you don't know whether -- how to make heads or tails. it demonstrates more climate tribalism. if you look at the piece would you said was part of this, there would be 16,000 comments registered. it is remarkable how passionate people are about temperature is, all of these other things. and yet how do we nonscientist and yet how do we nonscientist make sense of it? it boggles my mind truly and it's another example as i said. this tribalism about what side you are on. >> they are forcing it -- they
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are forcing the bifurcation because if there are scientists and there are -- if nasa is excepting this data, it is false, we are going to have a hard time trusting what other claims come forward and i don't like the idea that the reader -- i think we need to apply some skepticism across the board. and it certainly seems like the climate is changing and if you take your economy and you apply such a drastic result and have these consequences that can alter your economy, certainly that is owing to be influencing energy policy and that is where you come in. >> we can see already what is happening in germany with some of their these. here is a country that has
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imposed over $100 billion in subsidies for renewables onto consumers and industrial users in electricity rates have skyrocketed. what has happened is remarkable and the u.s. over the last decade, it has co2 emissions that have been cut more than six times without a coordinated family. and that is what are we going to do locally about the billions of people that are living in this. that is the broader question than the one that is far more important. kennedy: unfortunately they will never find a solution to their very real crises. because this is going to alter the outcome and if that is creating that governmental policy which then creates and these are more than we could
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kennedy: there are some parents to refuse to vaccinate their children. the cdc confirming that 17 states like washington dc have had said that health risks are
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eminem. the science on vaccines are clear and ignoring it puts kids in danger. tonight i am joined by john gilmore, the director of the autism action network. and rita gilmour, she runs a blog my kids and my toys. so okay, why do you want your kids to get the measles? >> i don't want them to get measles, but i am one of the parents that had a healthy child that reacted to be early to a vaccine and suffered extensive brain damage as a result. kennedy: that's awful and no one can take that away from you or diminish what you and your family and other families have been through. >> the point that i would like to make is that our vaccine program, imagine if a law was
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passed in on the first day of school every kid in america had to eat a big spoonful of peanut butter, most of them say that's great. but we all know that some kids who get violently ill, some go into shock and someone died. and so basically the same thing applies to vaccines, some kids cannot tolerate them. kennedy: some kids cannot tolerate some vaccines, but that doesn't mean that all kids shouldn't have vaccines. is and that faulty logic? >> i would leave it to the parents choice to evaluate what is right for their family and their children. that is the stance that i would take. so in the case of john's family, if there was a reaction to a vax e'en to particular child, you're not going to force them to revit that. kennedy: what i would do is if you're not going to vaccinate,
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you are putting your own family at risk, keep them home. home school. of the parents decide not to vaccinate him at other kids get sick. there was one individual who brought whooping cough to a new one that almost died. that's not anecdotal. tell me about this? >> well, i don't think that it is really the appropriate thing to be talking about at this point. i think what we really need to be focusing on is to use your example of what is going on with measles. we have 100 cases in the united states so far. a generation ago measles was an ordinary childhood disease and no big deal. kennedy: before 1988 killed 2.6 million people per year, the leading global children's
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disease. >> maybe in bangladesh. kennedy: easy to say when we have the technology to use it and were choosing not to use it. >> i think that it's a really bad way of approaching it. i think what we have right now is the vaccines program that needs to be improved considerably. we need to do a much better job at identifying kids who are potentially injured by the vaccines. and examples like my son who has been injured, we are completely ignored. we do not exist. no effort is made to fix what has happened to these kids. kennedy: i think that there has been a lot of effort and a lot of celebrities that have come forward. unfortunately the sciences and on the side of anything other than these anecdotal cases. >> that doesn't mean the government is spending a lot of money if you answer tough questions.
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kennedy: pediatricians are not going to poison children. i talked to a lot of them, if you don't have vaccines, you don't get admitted and that's going to go for the really help system as well. doctors have every right to do that. if there is a pediatrician at vaccinate them turn xander with a vaccine, they don't want their kids getting measles, bringing them into the waiting room, which is totally fair. and. >> what about the grown-up people? i was vaccinated about 50 years ago. according to your explanation, i am a hazard to little babies, but i have been breathing on them for decades and decades. so what would you propose to do with me. kennedy: i don't think the government should tell you to get a vaccine, i think your logic should. what about the japanese autism study that showed 170 kids that were not vaccinated that had
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autism. >> we never said that vaccinations cause autism. that is a very broad category that all kinds of children's, all kinds of children with a huge range of problems have. i'm just concerned, what does that have encephalopathy like brain damage and others. i then put my son in two days. kennedy: it is heartbreaking and tragic and that doesn't mean that all parents should opt out of vaccinating their kids. >> again, we're not famous. >> a public health threats like measles is not worth the anecdotal evidence. >> parents are taking matters into their own hands. the trend is selective
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vaccination. it's hard to tell people to do that. kennedy: that is the conversation that the parents can have with doctors and the government doesn't have to control that conversation. parents can use their brains and protect others including newborns. and now it will reach numbers that i am not comfortable with. thank you both for being on here. kennedy: follow me on twitter at kennedy nation, we can continue the party whenever you want. later on in the show, eating in punk rock joins me, coming up next, the harrowing robot attack and charles manson's fiancé just wanted him for his barbie. we have that next no super-slow-motion footage of trucks splashing through the mud. no cowboy hats, horses, or hay bales. just a ram 3500 that, head to head,
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kennedy: welcome to the tropical storm.
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topic number one, eric holder took a break from running the department of justice into the ground. long enough to grant an interview to this woman so she could rub his leg so take a look. >> you know, we call you the duck. >> the duck? >> can you quack for us? >> i'm not sure that i'm going to do that. [laughter] >> i like the analogy. kennedy: he is so calm on the surface, drumming up his little legs. the duck. oddly enough many of us have a word for the ag, it rhymes with duck and it starred with dom.
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topic number two.. you heard charles manson and his fiancée have left their marriage plans. plans. according to an upcoming book, she didn't want to party with his mandates to take possession of his corpse when he dies she could put it on display. yeah, she wanted to start charles manson land. and it's obvious that you would have several branded elements [inaudible] you have to be high to go on this. it is obvious that the squirrel is a star at marketing. summing up for creativity. topic number three. the war between man versus robot
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has gotten ugly. just when you thought it was safe, to give over to mechanical devices, a woman with was savagely attacked by her robotic vacuum cleaner in south korea of all pcleaner in south korea of all places. and then when she wasn't looking, she fell asleep on the floor and that is when the machine sucked her hair into its unfeeling robot ducks and put her head right in there as it had the suction power to match its ottoman tonic, psycho rage. the woman had called paramedics are praetor and no doubt she will try to rid herself of the vacuum, but you know it will be back. kennedy: if you have any weird
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news stories, i would like to see them on the tropical storm. even tribeca got in there. ask kennedy nation, i'm also on instagram. coming up next, guiding your loins to successful breeding.
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kennedy: michele obama speaking about her national school lunch program. she says we are kid in a
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lunchroom today. this will be their norm, they don't know anything different. well, that is creepy. i have a kindergartner and i'm not very excited about it. mary catherine ham is back. and we have tom with us as well in the house. okay, so you both have kids. michelle obama wants to socially engineer good taste from your children's palette. this is offputting to you at all. >> we are already indicating her and do not worry, she will not be taken in. what i like about this is relying on instituting ignorance. you don't get to taste the vast wild from taco bell. we are going to rely on her ignorance.
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[laughter] >> that's all they know. kennedy: even though it has given you the desire for sugar and fat and rewire your brain to accept ordinary foods. >> why are we still up on these hot lunches? urges so much happier now that you buy a sandwich and a bag on the airline? hot meals are overrated. have a subway in the school. that is it, everyone should eat sandwiches. kennedy: my girls would feast like warrior queens. >> the government has been wrong about what is healthy over and over again. >> when kids share their lunches, sometimes looks at the
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rancid piece of something. and it's almost like it's giving them the eating disorders. >> what is the hash tag i can use? kennedy: thanks, michelle obama. >> okay. kennedy: the healthiest practice a man can put in his gullet. according to a new study at michigan state, that may come in handy if you're waiting for mr. right, you're going to be up all night. if you're waiting for him, that might be a risky evolutionary strategy because he may never come along because of the tv show of the movie "sex and the city." so your best bet would be to settle for mr. baker. so what do you think that your wife was thinking when you met? >> i think that i am the embodiment.
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i am -- i am a solid guy and, you know, i'm an all-american guy, but i'm not a poster guy. you know, who are the hotties now? the guy from 50 shades of gray, i'm not him, but i make a better husband. kennedy: up something that a lot of women don't think about. i mean, you obviously picked correctly. >> part of this is how he is going to be, should he be part of the equation? i went for mr. perfect because we have a plan to move them all. >> we are just getting them together. >> if you can't engage in our
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masquerades. and this is something that evolves in smaller settings. soar if you are in a tiny town or travel village and the first one said this, why not, does anyone have babies, you can't wait around for adonis because chances are he is probably with your hot cousin. >> i don't even know how we evolved with us. in ancient times it didn't take much to be a good god. but now you could be a good god on paper. ivy league, all of those wonderful qualities, but then it can turn out this way. >> you could be a sociopath with small hands. kennedy: she had a band going for a wild. but it also explains tv shows like the king of queens and
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others. and this is why -- you know what he looks like in his present condition? is less tightly than he was in swingers, he has plenty of points on this. not to say he's not attractive. >> i think they're going to put him in sports illustrated. kennedy: in the movie he needs scarlett johansson and sophia vergara and so maybe women settle for sloppy guys. >> it's all about what your goal is, if it is to settle down, you should be looking with that in mind, not thinking that you need brad pitt who plays in a chamber orchestra. but i just want to make that clear to my husband and everyone.
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[laughter] kennedy: you can only talk about what you know. >> aren't women better at settling anyway? aren't you experts at bargaining with these guys? if you like guys live in a fantasy world. because look at the guys that are walking around. kennedy: they all look like he'll are whether ryan gosling haircuts and their mustaches. kennedy: like brad pitt and the chamber orchestra. kennedy: coming up next, a new guest is joining us right here on site
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kennedy: welcome back. the only living member, giving us a glimpse into the crazy world of rock 'n roll in his new book, my life as marky ramon. thank you for joining me everyone is gone. >> unfortunately. kennedy: have their ghost haunted you for the last several years? why write the book now? >> it took five years. you know, to think that you can write it within a week is pretty impossible. you have to have a plan. so being in the band for 15
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years, it's the most comprehensive book out there to be one what was the hardest thing for you in the van to dealing with joey's ocd order johnnies love of ronald reagan? >> i mean, joey had an illness and later on we realized back, not in the beginning. the other -- that's what happens when you have ocd. johnny's lover ronald was his weakness, but we heard it every minute. and that was between joey and johnny's politics and that was the main topic. so after a while because of that, they didn't talk to each other. kennedy: how bad was the animosity in your later years? >> when i got back, it's still the same.
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you know, some people just don't get along. again, opposites attract, that is what we do with the music. so if we were totally different people, it might have affected the music. kennedy: some people say that you trash everyone in the band. they feel like they are best softened in history? >> well, that was the only bad review. kennedy: you are a huge fan before you joined. >> he was ready to give you his job as. >> after three and a half years he decided to leave the band, and i wish that they had stayed together because i love lineup.
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and somehow i wish that the petty animosity would have disappeared and it would have a situation where they could've been close. kennedy: i love the punk rock dinosaurs, great record. do you think that they were bombed at with this in the early '90s? >> yes, we did very well. and so they cite us as an influence. so it is great. i'm happy, i'm flying with that. kennedy: i like your jacket because it reminds me of a rock 'n roll bake potato.
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>> it's thermal. you have to be prepared. the heat stays in. kennedy: marky ramone, his book tran-eights. get your copy of it now. thank you for being here. i love talking about the music. >> thank you. kennedy: a side note, they did not receive a grammy award until 2011 when he got a lifetime achievement award. and after this, i will give you the lowdown on the grammys. who should have won and who embarrassed themselves. the nightcap is next.
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kennedy: welcome back, tonight we thought we would talk about the grammy predictions that we made here. bobby joins me in we compared
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our notes. i didn't think the academy was bold enough to go with me and then we got surprise during the show when kanye started to get up on stage. [cheers] [applause] [cheers] kennedy: i can't even believe that he didn't follow through on the joke. he went down and he didn't do anything to prove that he is less relevant and no one appreciated the gesture and he truly has become a kardashian. bobby did get it right when he predicted sam smith would own the night and unfortunately he was correct. >> i'm having a really good night. [applause] thank you so much, i'm going to pass you over to one of my best
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friends. here we are. kennedy: tom petty, make it stop. my favorite part of the night. it was not madonna, by the way, was that an antigravity tool underneath their? well, she always seems to upset people. well done. ♪ ♪ kennedy: she did more dancing in that five seconds and katy perry did in her entire super bowl appearance. she looked great for a golden girl. that is it for our nightcap. try getting those hindquarters out of your head. we will see you again tomorrow
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night. you can see me at kennedy nation and you can e-mail us as well. have a good one. . lou: good evening, everybody, i'm lou dobbs. president obama met with german chancellor angela merkel today at white house to discuss what's next in the effort to block vladimir putin's ambitions in eastern europe. the press conference, after they met, seemed designed to highlight differences between european leaders and the president rather than present a united front against the march through crimea, perhaps further into eastern ukraine and the baltic states. the two leaders making it clear they disagree on whether to arm ukraine. angela merkel unwilling to do so, the president saying he's considering a decision. neither view likely to bolster the morale of
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