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>> the banks and financial stocks are going to move one way or the other. charles: we'll leave it on that note. [ laughter ] >> winner! >> thank you for joining us every night at 6:00 p.m. if you can't see the show, dvr it. lou dobbs is next. fox business. lou: good evening, everybody. i'm lou dobbs. a federal judge has stopped president obama's efforts to unilaterally block deportations of as many as five million illegal immigrants. district court judge andrew hannon issued a temporary injunction banning the administration from implementing the president's hotly criticized fiat that was to begin implementation tomorrow. the judge's decision a victory for the 26 states that are suing president obama, accusing the president of exceeding his constitutional powers. the president himself dismissed the ruling today and tried to blame congress. >> i disagree with the texas
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judge's ruling, and the justice department will appeal. this is not the first time where a lower court judge has blocked something or attempted to block something that ultimately was shown to be lawful. i have shown the process that the only way we're going to get a broken immigration system fully fixed is by congress acting. lou: the president may be disagreeing today with the judge's decision but on 22 occasions before he issued his executive fiat he actually agreed with the judge's decision. coming up next we'll be talking with the secretary of state of ohio, jon husted about the threats posed to our government and electoral system. ohio, one of the states suing president obama. and we'll be talking with fox news political analyst juan
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williams about what the white house can do next? also tonight, islamic state terrorists reportedly burning 45 people to death in western iraq, in the town of al-baghdadi, the islamic states atrocities continue as a state department spokeswoman says we can't, quote, kill our way out of this war end quote. mr. obama wants a jobs program for the islamic state. fox news military analyst general jack keane will join us to discuss the islamic state threat. whatever happened to al qaeda? has vladimir putin won again? what he wants next? and how our military can succeed under what appears to be confused leadership. all of that coming up here tonight. and st. louis police facing a lawsuit after an officer disabled a dash cam while an armed man was being arrested. video of the incident captured the man refusing to exit his car as ordered.
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officers kicking the man as he fought back, and then the camera goes black does. he have a case? we'll be talking about that and much more with leading attorneys lis wiehl and mercedes colwin tonight. we begin with a court order that blocks the obama amnesty fiat the court's injunction blocks a number of actions that were to begin tomorrow. the department of homeland security forced to suspend rollout, but the white house and attorney general eric holder vowing to appeal the lower court decision. >> i think that we have to look at this decision for what it is. it is a decision by one federal district court judge. i expect, i've always expected this is a matter that will ultimately be decided by a higher court, if not the supreme court. lou: my first guest tonight testified before congress last week on how the president's executive fiat could, could
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alter the outcome of flection his home state of ohio, which is one of the 26 states joined in the constitute against the president. joining us tonight is the secretary of state of ohio jon husted. john, good to have you with us. first, i'd like to get your reaction to the temporary order by judge hannon in texas? >> it's a welcome development in this case. we don't think that the president's executive action is ready for primetime yet because it affects states like ohio in very negative ways. myself, i'm in charge of the elections process in ohio. his executive action gives documents to people who are not citizens of the united states that are the same documents that federal law says that you can use to register to vote, and as a result of that we have no way of knowing whether people using social security numbers are indeed american citizens and eligible to vote. i wrote the president back in
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january. i asked him for help. we need access to the information to know the difference between citizens and noncitizens when we're conducting elections in ohio and across the country. lou: there are two things happening here contemporaneously, neither of which is helpful to the integrity of our electoral system. one of the things happening is that the president, the attorney general, the justice department fighting like the dickens, voter identification laws that would require photo i.d.'s, and at the same time, pushing forward with this amnesty fiat that effectively, it seems to me is a matter of issuing de facto citizenship. how do you reconcile it? how large is the threat do you believe, in ohio? >> well, you can't reconcile it. it doesn't make any sense. the problem is real because you have as many as five million
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people who are not citizens of the united states who have access to the same documents that it takes to register to vote. and without federal assistance there's no way for any of the states to know the difference. we've already found in the 2012 presidential election 291 noncitizens who were on the voter roll 17 of them voted in our election. we were only able to determine that after the fact, using driver's license data, as far as people on the rolls using social security numbers. we have no way to determine that. this is really important, because we have a lot of close elections. there are 70 elections over the course of the last two years in ohio decided by one vote or tied. and so any illegal voting is a potential impact on the integrity of our elections and the president should not be issuing social security numbers to people who are not citizens until they can tell us who those people are so we can police the voter rolls in ohio and across the nation to make sure nobody gets on the rolls
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that shouldn't be. lou: it only surprises me frankly, that there are only 26 states suing the president on this issue. a majority certainly, but why every state would not be as concerned as are the attorneys general and the secretaries of state of each of those states. jon husted, we thanks for being with us, and we appreciate your time. look forward to talking with you soon. >> thank you. lou: jon husted secretary of state of ohio. ashton carter today officially became the nation's 25th secretary of defense. carter took the oath of office at the white house in a ceremony with vice president joe biden. carter then pledged three commitments. >> the first is to help our president make the best possible decisions about our security and the security of the world. my second commitment is to the men and women of the department
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of defense whom i will lead to reflect in everything i do and to honor the commitment and dedication that brought them into service. and third i have a commitment to the future to building a force for our future. lou: carter becomes president obama's fourth secretary of defense succeeding chuck hagel who resigned in november under pressure, but who remained in his post until yesterday. among the many foreign policy challenges that the new secretary of defense now faces the rise of the islamic state, working for a president who says the islamic state isn't islamic. a jv version of al qaeda and who dismisses their threat to america as overhyped by our national media. vice president biden today kicked off a three-day summit with a roundtable discussion on how to counter the spread of what the white house calls
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violent extremism. >> we all understand that in dealing with violent extremism that we need answers to go beyond a military answer. we have to work from the ground up and engage our communities and engage those who might be susceptible to being radicalized because they marginalized. lou: this hastily called summit bringing together a number of folks, including community leaders from los angeles boston minneapolis, st. paul the mayors of rotterdam and belgium. even though the summit is dealing with so-called violent extremism, the expression is understood, the administration adamantly avoiding radical
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islamists, it leaves me with no words at all. president obama in the fight against the islamic state, but online the obama administration has a virtual strategy against the islamic state. general jack keane is our guest next. ♪ know your financial plan won't keep you up at night. know you have insights from top investment strategists to help set your mind at ease. know that planning for retirement can be the least of your worries. with the guidance of a pnc investments financial advisor, know you can get help staying on track for the future you've always wanted.
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. lou: there is no sign of a cease-fire in ukraine with pro-russian rebels surrounding ukrainian forces. both sides failed to pull back heavy weaponry with russian president putin telling kiev to let its forces surrender. joining us tonight, former army vice chief of staff, fox news analyst general jack keane. general, putin apparently is now graciously permitting poroshenko and the ukrainian forces to surrender. is this a done deal? >> we'll see. i mean i'm very skeptical about any of this. the reason why there's not been an effective cease-fire is because both of these organizations fought and died for some of the territory they're standing on and don't want to give it up, they are fairly self-evident, and i certainly know as putin describes his folks, the
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separatists, they feel very strongly about that. and this is about territorial control at the end of the day so i think this cease-fire is in trouble over the long haul, and i'm convinced as previous once failed it's likely this one will fail also. lou: it seems to me, and correct me please, if i'm wrong, that there are very few possibilities from here, and that is that either the cease-fire takes hold or russia has its way and takes as much of eastern ukraine as it wishes in a very short period of time through the proxy of the forces or eastern ukraine or the united nations steps in aggressively, and i frankly find that to have a remarkably ambiguous outcome. your thoughts. >> well, the issue i think is the central issue from the
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beginning has been when putin lost his stooge yanukovych who was fighting ukraine moving to the west economically and certainly moving to the west politically, the people threw him over for that reason. what putin desperately does not want to have happen is ukraine to continue to do what they are doing, which is look to the west economically. i think going into nato militarily is off the table. because that gets you russian divisions inside ukraine. so that's what all the muscle is about, and he's going to continue to muscle at until this government that's in power heels to his wishes and lines more with him in terms of economic dependence than europe. that's is not what the people want, they recognize, they have ties in russia. they understand economically the sad shape russia is in. they don't want any part of it.
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they want what's going on in europe, there are a lot of challenges, a heck of a lot more prosperity. lou: to see the feeble, almost embarrassing response of nato to russia, i would think that would give the ukrainian people second thoughts about allying with either the east or the west. i just don't see a positive outcome here for the ukrainian people at all given the lack of courage and principle being expressed by either angela merkel, the leader of the free world, or president obama who once was when he actually attended meetings. >> i totally agree with that. the europeans are totally feckless about this. they don't have the stomach to stand up to him. the sanctions are relatively weak. only thing getting putin's attention is oil prices. they're cyclical. he's willing to put up with a lot of suffering for his
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people. he is likely is the most favored leader in the world in terms of popularity somewhere off the charts at 80%. united states will not help the ukrainians militarily which they've been asking for over a year we came supposedly close to it. i think angela merkel talked our president out of it. he's in the wait and see mode. and i believe that because there's been such a feckless response from europe and our own country to the crisis i think some of the people around putin have put on the table we could probably do more than this, we could probably challenge some of the nato countries, and will angela merkel respond to the challenge? will she put german troops on the ground to deal with that? that's a live debate and discussion that the kremlin is truly having. lou: europe now faced with russians on their eastern frontier and the islamic state on their southern.
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this is looking like a pivot all moment in europe's history. >> yeah, absolutely. they have very serious challenges. economically as we know, the adventurism of putin redesigned the international post, the collapse of the soviet union, and now the expanding nature of radical islam and how isis is becoming the new face of radical islam as it begins to expand out of the middle east now in africa. and other movements are reflagging and renaming themselves because they believe isis has a winning strategy and they're more powerful and politically influential than any previous radical islamist movement. lou: general jack keane, good to have you with us. >> good talking with you lou. lou: online poll results, we asked if you believe most americans capable about rage when lied to by highest elected officials? 71% of you said you still are.
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vote in tonight's poll, do you believe our judiciary will check the president's use of executive fiat? cast your vote at loudobbs.com. a jewish reporters hidden camera capturing rampant anti-semitism on the streets of paris. the reporter walked around paris silently for ten hours to document his experience. and among the hatred he encountered. well, some called him a homo, a jew, a dog, some spat in his direction. another yelled viva palestine and someone else warned him to get out of neighborhood before something bad happened. up next, an excessive force leaving st. louis area police camera shy. two of the brightest legal minds in the nation on the case next. lis wiehl and mercedes colwin
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join us. my commentary on the administration's misguide plans for fighting radical islamist terrorists coming right up. stay with us.
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. lou: if you will, now, a few comments on a president who's becoming increasingly less believable, less convincing at least to members of his own administration apparently. president obama talks about degrading and destroying the islamic state, or at least he has on a number of occasions but then his rhetoric has cooled a bit. his focus has seemed to waiver a bit, and he recedes, and low level state department officials like state department deputy press secretary marie harp focus on tv and outright contradict the president's original statements. and ancredibly talks about giving the terrorists jobs. >> we're killing a lot of them and we're going to keep killing
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more of them. so are the egyptians and jordanians but we cannot kill our way out of this war. we need in the longer term medium and longer term to go after the root causes to lead people to join the groups. whether it's lack of opportunity for jobs. lou: incredible. incredible. harf seems to imply that president obama intends a job program for radical islamist terrorists. comments like harf's insinuate that our president is biding time refusing all the while to name our enemies radical islamist terrorists and refusing to name christians muslims. the state department is ramping up anti-islamic state messages on social media. according to the "new york times," islamic state is wing the online propaganda war issue anding as many as 90,000 tweets each and every day.
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so the obama administration intends to send out more tweets like this one, quote -- that from the same state department account that last november tried and largely failed to call out the islamic state for publishing these pictures, one of which is i believe of hungarian porn, as you can imagine, far more attention was given to the fact that the state department knew the islamic state was using an image of hungarian porn rather than the fact the islamic state used image of hungarian porn as propaganda, and the administration has gotten the idea that this little item would work just the same or perhaps better than messaging at home. you know, like the war on women, or its campaign slogan
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it is far better at propagandizing the american people than the radical islamist terrorists that they won't name. our quotation of the evening, from american author, philosopher -- . lou: we're coming right back. it turns out we may have three co equal branches of government after all. a federal judge stops the president's executive amnesty fiat in its tracks. will our constitutional republic be saved after all? fox news juan williams here next.
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. lou: federal leges investigators often the scene after more than 100 tinker's to derail the snowstorm. it sent a fireball 300 feet into the eric also burn down a nearby home and caused officials to shut down to water treatment plants because of oil seeping into the nearby river. and try to end a labor
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dispute as congestion in is expected to cost retailers $7 billion issue the suspected cost of a full work stoppage is about $2 billion per day. a wed p.m. capture it amazing footage of one of the most active volcano erupting on sunday located in western mexico has erupted several times the sheer. this time dash rose more than 1 mile into the air. the obama administration refuses to use the phrase islamic terrorist and that is the manufacture problem. >> we spent more time talking about what do you call it more than what to do about it? , really. fox didn't talk about this there would have nothing
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else to talk about. lou: joining us now is juan williams. is a good thing we had this to talk about. i guess "fast & furious" door then gauzy or the justice department surveillance on reporters and journalists. >> you can see fox has made a point of this but guess what? the american people ask the same question the latest poll indicates that the president should be far more aggressive to go after islamic terrorism. so yes it is fair to say they make up point but fox is reflecting public opinion on this point. lou: furthermore the
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attorney general understands all too well that we are right as hell but with the president what george did the bush did with his administration and people want to forget that as early as 2002 referred to refer to radical islamist. 12 years ago i said did not have the guts to meet the enemy. except now we have the same discussion with the war on terror. >> i was giving you credit for consistency now give you extra credit because i think what eric holder was trying to save more conservatives going after the liberal administration. but with regard to winning
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the war on terror, you could criticize bush obama but al qaeda has been decimated and we have new players on the scene and we have some more atrocious way with the terrorist attacks recently done in the name of islam. but how do you fight this? it is not always going to be more of the same. fighting isis is different than destroying al qaeda in pakistan. lou: i thank you can get too fancy office. i mean everyone. he trying to do propaganda on the war. note to be directed against the enemy now the american people this administration is in the inverse way and
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for them to get up on board games your trip all over themselves the president said he would degrade and destroy the islamic state. i will be kind but administration members were talking about a decades-long conflict. do they learn nothing at all? you cannot fight the enemy in their fashion we have to fight our way with everything we have to bear to destroy them. >> but we have. the united states has conducted 90% of seven months of air strikes against isis' they never were able to capture but let me ask you a question. if you have a situation where president bush and president obama we do not
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want to say to you jordan or egypt and the united states is at war against islam. lou: who said islam? >> it is radical islamist. he doesn't have enough intelligence in his entire administration into her ounce and identify specifically industry, dash discreetly the target of this country? >> that is why bush did but they're saying pretty much the same thing and i wonder if they don't direct to the language at the american audience so much at that middle eastern muslims to. >>. charles: and the most sophisticated political analyst the and you know, they need to send it to, not
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just one. they are very sophisticated i think they will work that out. >> they should. they have not yet. [laughter] lou: just 12 years and counting. great to see you. juan williams. one man who knows how to work a camera and another who may need to step away. the first republican in congressman knows how to use spice up the boring c-span broadcasts. last week he slid into his seat as his colleague was speaking on the house floor there he winked at the camera more than a few times and his press secretary said that congress man's mother watches c-span and he did it for her and schaede gets the kick out of it. and then have largely fallen flat with mass mockery last
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lou: on wall street's record-breaking day the dow up 28 points and enough to close at a new record high. volume on the big board was relatively light trading in crude oil closes $63 a barrel that is the highest this year. income in the quality is not on the rise contrary to what you have heard with a new george washington university study. it shows the top 1 percent of earners since the
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recovery began they also experienced the worst losses during the recession. joining us now is arthur laugher and chairman of laugher associates. >> income inequality there is no question it is significant what is your take on the new study? where are we right now? >> income inequality is not the right thing. income inequality rises because everyone is getting richer it is good for everyone and wonderful for the country. if it cuts in the quality improves of repeating gets four and a different rate is the tragedy. that is not the right thing to look at but the real steady is they are not measuring the same people. we had a drop of the
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8 million there not even included in any of these measures but black teen-agers simply berate haft from the peak before the great recession into the trough that that is a tragedy beyond belief going to about 30 percent employment at 15% -- a 50% there the future and they are lost forever when they don't have the jobs are the skills so they all missed the nitty gritty. >> the weather a wealthy person is losing or gaining in income it is a matter of such relative significance and wealth itself far more important income is actually declining.
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it is a tragedy and the president goes around with a swagger about what he has done for the economy and i don't see it. >> average wages are falling 20% if you look at employment it fell dramatically from 2007 from 2010 and has stayed at the bottom. gdp is 4 trillion off trent. $4 trillion and but it has barely moved up in the last eight years there is no real improvement is the single worst recovery in the history of the west than they say we have done a great job. no. they are losers and failures they have done a horrible job to the economy we need them all at a fair for the pro-growth tax cuts how is
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that? >> migrate concerned is the middle-class in those who aspire to the middle-class. i am sure you see in the new poll of those who identify as middle-class set the all-time low or the lower class at the all-time high. 44%. these are the numbers that kick you in the back. no every no one was ever made better off by pulling someone down. of rising tide raises all votes but zedillo and
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obamacare did not understand the rising tide with the interest rates at zero who puts money out for mortgages at 3%? they will never do that. because interest rates are way too low. >> to visit dash bill we need you. [laughter] lou: listen to my financial records three times a day of the salem radio network and a fresh prosecutor giving up on churchy and imf boss with aggravated pimping. the prosecutor demanded full acquittal saying there simply is not enough evidence to convict him to procuring prostitutes and aggravating pence.
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there were sordid details of his? life such as love of orgies but only four times a year as he has certain constraints. prostitution is legal in france and we are working with the penal code not the moral code. willett check from the judicial branch of set the balance of the president's powers? our favorite legal scholars are on the case in next. stay with us. our experienced investment professionals are one reason over 85% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper averages. so in a variety of markets we can help you feel confident. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence.
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lou: st. louis police under fire allegedly using excessive force while arresting a man who was speeding and making an illegal u-turn. it was captureed on dashcam video, until it was not one telling the other cop to quote hold up to turn off off the recording. according to police he had a gun, smelled of marijuana the suspect is suing to police deputy for a half million dollars in damages saying that officers used excessive force by kicking him repeatedly and shocking him with a taser. joining us now.
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let's start with the case. what is going to happen? >> they thought they were being threatened. there were issues. >> but problem for the police, to make the statement we're on red, the camera is watching, wait hold back so i can turn it off to beat the you know what out of you that is the problem for jurors, they will say we don't want your our police asking that way am they -- will they give him $5 $500,000, i don't think so but they might give him a token dollar.
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>> bad guy gets what he deserves? >> but you can't have police saying that, and turning off the camera and beating someone off. lou: there should be a camera going. >> absolutely. to capture the entire beating but i don't think that i don't think that jury will give him a pass he will say you smelled like marijuana, you had a gun you want keel reaching for the gun. >> that does change circumstances. i know we hole police officers to a different standard, but when someone is reaching for a gun, standards change. >> but keep the carah going. >> i got no problem with that. >> teens going on a rampage they were caught store just two days prior three teens have been arrested for shoplifting they came back to tear it to
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pieces in revenge. how much trouble are they in? >> significant first of all you have all of the security cameras, they can comeback, you got motive, that is the one thing that jurors love to see motive that is what they love. >> multiple felony charges they were doing it as a gang-related matter the crips. lou: the big story judge ruleing that president of u.s. -- he just can't do things the way he wanted to at least in entire tie. there are certain rules he should have said the hell with circumstance this the beginning of -- with, is this the beginning of the end for the amnesty fiat? >> it probably is. it will continue up, the judge made the proper ruling, he said yes, it is in pervue of the executive power, but what the
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president has done and burdened state gone way beyond what powers were permitted. lou: the judge in case said that had the president basically just left it at nonenforcement it would be one thing but bestowing all of the benefits, obamacare, income tax credits for dries out loud -- for crying out loud, all of these welfare benefits, he said no deal. >> i think it will go to a three judge panel in new orleans, i think they will focus narrowly on different programs, the program for adults coming in and for kids. they will focus on that, whoever loses at that level will get to supreme court they will decide it there are 26 states involved in this. lou: led by texas. attorney general greg abbott now the governor of texas. a masterful job in taking on
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this administration at the end of last year. does this stand or does it not the fiat? i personally believe without any equivcasion that if our checks and balances do not stop this etkpwraoefrpblegregious on part of this president. >> they are going to hold to this power,. >> this is not the end. >> you you talking about next year before a decision. >> i think expedited because the supremes are done and out by june. lou: nice to see courts work on something urgent. >> not as fast as we do. lou: they are not getting paid as much as you. >> thank you. lou: that is it for us, good
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night, from new york city. neil: 60 nations 3 days, one summit. zero mention for the reason of that summit -- islamist extremist. i am neil cavuto. the word on the tip of everyone's tongue, not one is leting it roll off their tongue because white house ruled off limits word islamist extremist. participant from around the world at white house had better know and honor it or plan on cutting their visit short.

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