immigrated illegally illegals. i don't get it. lou: good to have you with us. goodnight from new york. neil: welcome, everybody. i am neil cavuto. and know that you enjoy watching me but just in case you were curious look the other channels are doing at this hour cnbc is running a repeat of sharks with than investors in a tank and cnn has climate change then msnbc during a town hall meeting and immigration when it comes to the lighthouse and they keep trying to call into the show that the president keeps doing the same show. why?

what is the only bush his idea? so with that channel with the executive orders try to make perfect sense now. were too cavalier lead business keystone and then to show the president is in perfect sense that i will tell you why is total nonsense. slightly left-of-center says the president should not back down. with the president is preaching? >> i think the proposal is very smart and bipartisan.

neil: with the executive order? >> so it is also in the same bipartisan bill they have proposed for the last 13 months. >> but they are supporting the jurors that is part of that with the executive order. >> so god forbid we get into semantics. obviously the president is not changing his posture. so of this immigration issue nothing will move.

because this is how he has acted. to save this is what i want. >> but they said we will call your bluff? >> but i feel we should fight tooth and nail to veto. >> but they are controlling backed. neil: finish that thought. bled to think to her point you have to see that? here is what we will die. now what will you do? >> that was the biggest day in is what is our plan?

with health care perform did we propose overhauling? no. we'll have people taking their subsidies. but 50% just this week obama and obamacare have come out with the latest gallup poll. >> i am just curious cemetery think the posture that the use according to executive order? and i will misrepresent? no. there are offering alternatives. >> what he is trying to do with the town hall is to put

pressure on the republican party to pass some sort of legislation. >> and he has tried that is the executive order does he say get iraq together? i was in college. but to it is very normal sneaky is pushing like a dictatorship or a minority. he does not play nice on the playground. he doesn't like what congress proposes then he has denied a "state of the union" address to sarah will work with the republican. >> but mcconnell says this is the legislation he will propose but it is the two-party -- t party.

neil: i wish we did have more time with all those other people find you disagreeable for i am kidding. the president just keeps up engaged as a ballet as something simple. thousands of work permits more the congress allows take go wild guess of the approval rate for these work permits. 90% you heard me nine out of time it -- nine at a dinner getting permits. our expert says how? is that right? been a guest and shows they are cranking up the work permits as a shadow work authorization scheme because none of these people that you mentioned that are here

illegally can qualify for a green card or another status to work here. neil: what are the criteria? >> it does seem that way but if you are here on a green card or a work visa you don't need a work permit because the peso or the ricard give you the status but the work permits were intended for people in transition may be as a student that has very u.s. citizen transitioning and has been approved for a legal status for those limits set by congress but the executive branch and this president has started to issue work permits to almost anybody who works in an -- walks of the door and

asks. neil: what gives them the right? >> first of all, if you could be employed here illegally also many states accept these as evidence of lawful president said would give to a driver's license and one to have that that gives you access to other benefits so you can basically live here as the defacto the goal with people in deportation proceedings like those to cave in the search or seeking asylum the cases will not come up several years they may not stand a chance of approval of those huge jump in line in front of legal immigrants who think they may qualify for legal status and are not supposed to get one yet but it is so limited rules head has established to limit

immigration. >> that is weird. >> the republicans are frustrated by joe manchin says he is frustrated with the way things are going right now. but to say nothing will be done. >> i am hoping he will look to move the country forward that we could sit down to work through this quit playing politics with everything that we do. >> and he has sat down over criminal before but what about the next couple of years? >> it is hard to do because when you have the issues that are politicized taking action on issues that require legislation to make

it more difficult but there are some to work with the president a bill that is sponsoring the senate along with dick durbin from illinois better federal sentencing laws to make them more efficient to make them better for american people. >> but i am just wondering about the other issues. is is safe to say we will not make much headway no matter what a judge decides or on keystone the bid is part of the infrastructure of legislation? it is not happening. >> i am not willing to raise the white flag to say nothing can be done but talking about the keystone xl pipeline but we did that

have the two-thirds supermajority but. neil: explained why that might be beneficial even if you go down in defeat? in mecca requires those who are upstanding with the override i know that jobs are at this at stake in independence is at stake we're at the mercy of opec oil producing nations around the world but yet levels still do this because this is the base once made to do. that is hard to do business if they knew it would pass. ice this is on the hands. over here.

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neil: is ices over there the way with macdonald reported three men have been charged with helping isis over your spirit they were charged to give material support there were arrested by the fbi with the raid in brooklyn ages 19, 24, 31 is from you soon -- whose pakistan one was about to board a flight at jfk airport to in simple turkey but he was seized. face a maximum of 15 years in prison there were going to mask what they're doing to end up in syria to a joint isis but if they failed they would come back to the united states to commit u.s. domestic terror

strike and isis has already said suggestions we need more bull wolf attacks in the united states places like high-profile targets like times square. this is scary and one went to enlist in the military to spy and kill u.s. soldiers like ft. hood. but rather lynch did say this is one of the most part of the revelations one was operating a domestic support network here to support isis so the fear is for law enforcement that they're trying to build the u.s. isis branch here in the country. neil: and we think it is just the police but it could be breakaways over here. >> it is also the lone wolf attack in the network to support isis and also the

lone wolf attacks. neil: it is a little more sophisticated. >> that's right. neil: killing christians is not good but the president may have rushed to bidault the pipeline but when it comes to questions being butchered and kidnaps so much for the life line and the secretary says it is over the wind that the president is ignoring of holy war. you may be right. there is a pattern and a method and a craziness. what are we doing? >> not very much. the president isn't inclined to do very much with the defense of u.s. interest for him is like we going to the dentist if i could postpone

i would gore fight could avoid i would. neil: but you know, if you don't you have bigger problems down the road if you put off addressing this there is bigger problems down the road. >> the expectation the next person that comes into office will handle it in he can escape over the next 23 months. neil: but when religion comes up is christianity and horrible things done in the name of jesus but not with his lot is that by accident? those that cling to their bibles or their guns? >> this president believes the use of american force is

the bad thing or something that should be restricted that insecurity that biggest is more resolve with the intervention band anything else. he feels less is more and that is what we have seen with the crossing of the red line is syria with the uprising of the iranians to respond to ukraine. your audience knows it well. looking at isis has focused on taking a lot of landor killing people but maybe i missed something more basic? maybe it is making this a religious war that we cannot appreciate to get our arms

around? >> with the radical interpretation that did the saudis are making -- g. hoddy is making bayer killing apostates and those that renounce the muslim religion that is not the view held by those at large but it is by this group as they hold increasing amounts of territory is a danger to was. neil: thank you. these guys are knocking down doors selling over $100 million the fbi has a record. $23 million for anyone who passes but only hackers know how to find it aren't they the ones that are rewarding

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neil: if republicans are so fired up with the president is doing why don't they do something about it? they talk a good game about rejecting keystone but why not override? even if they reduce but they do it to agree on keystone and let them explain. talking about the executive orders on illegal immigration than what about tough border enforcements to see what he does about that? and insisting he plays patty cake so why not take those

murders and images of the kidnappings? they can talk a good game but taking the president over his orders they're just playing games a wonder the president feels free to do what he does he figured that republicans will not do anything against what he says. katrina, what do you think? >> they have already admitted defeat before this even started when mitch mcconnell says wave though white flag. so in this last election cycle we campaigned against amnesty and against everything the president is doing and they will not fight it there may be enough to override the veto but they're not even willing to

fight that is a problem with this party but essentially they will campaign on policy but won't cover and accordingly stick. neil: but what i do like is i don't think it is entirely a waste of time. they put everyone on record so people are hiding behind the president on keystone would have to say yea or nay with the next election to say he agreed with the president and to play a valuable role for something i untold the president says he values. >> ap likes it or not we have the majority for a

reason and if they will not utilize the tools given to them by the process then we don't need them there we are sending the same people over and over again expecting a different result is the same leadership they did not want now we know why. >> but the leadership comes back to say we are keeping the powder dry. i know lot of battles have come and gone. >> years. they always kick the can and down the road. time is up it is now or never. 2016 will be extremely crucial. the american public is a way can paying attention in both sides have no interest with the only special interest at hand and in 2016 we have to have a strong conservative

leader that is completely different than what we have today. neil: any possible candidates? >> senator ted cruz is out there walking around. neil: but he is way out there. >> if the mainstream is against him i will be for him because he has brought in every faction of the republican party that is why they are afraid of him because i think he could pull that off nationally. neil: he knows how to pull off the crowd. good to see you. if republicans cannot have their way. >> paid the money or leave. >> have a nice day. neil: hard-core politics.

did you hear about the irs to link the health care in robbia's with bad numbers getting a break? what about the conservatives? where is there break? where is ours?

neil: the irs tells any of those enrollees who might have filed their tax return with bad data the forms are fine and a refund check is in the mail. john allison says talk about special privileges?

unknown think others are automatically in the mail or those who lean to the right. what you think? >> obviously it is very scary since it is supposed to be a neutral organization to implement though lot. it is amending obamacare without congress' approval and of course, somebody will pay of many that ultimately that they impose that tax. neil: if we get bad information from the irs or even a government document they screw up they will not give that up. sorry. pay up but it is not their fault. they'll give up fast past? is one way to exonerate one

group exonerates all groups. >> absolutely. and blood have been with the conservative organizations trying to get status clearly shows a political motive not a rational motive 571 of the most powerful institutions on the planet but is still wields a very big machete. >> it does. i know a number of our sponsors have a surprising audits in this environment to suggest the audit process is heavily objective. >> but those handling the affordable care act to say that we just give you a heads up that should be lenient?

but we have called these conservative groups that are targeted. we should give the heads up? i did not hear that. >> absolutely not it was a double standard of treatment and that is unhealthy because we have a voluntary tax system they feel like it is politicized the you can have serious problems to collect those taxes. >> that means if they had some data the irs will give them refunds. what do you think of that? >> it isn't fair. it is unfair they didn't do their job brighter other taxpayers who have to pay though revenues someday. neil: somebody pays for

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neil: lawmakers cannot cut the deal i will bring in the altman negotiator. -- the ultimate negotiators. >> if we can make a profit five interested. >> i am sorry it started this way. >> i don't care how it starts at the end on a positive note. neil: that went well the star of hard-core pawn. >> you cannot play games in politics.

uk and but to resolve a situation unique to work together. neil: you negotiate with people. he wants a thousand dollars when think it is worth $5 but how you handle that? how does that come together? >> with negotiation there's three basic things to manage your emotions. holman security or terrorism brings out the of the year. will not washington has to be focused on the issue. that is really important we don't owe the bottom line in the most fecund paid during a budget but no amount of money is worth giving up our freedom everything else aside to put money into the military to make sure we are

saved? you walk down the street you don't want to field of the year. never. what they need to do is put down the politick ideas to focus to work together every but gave walking around florida or new york or los angeles i don't want to feel scared. neil: but there always afraid of losing. each side. but i say ronald reagan said this but i don't want him to look bad but it was all how it was handled like the cuban missile crisis. don't rub it in their face.

so you take advantage of the person who thinks that build it though this is worth $10,000 but it is not. how does he keep his dignity? >> keep an honest. people have an idea of what the item is worth but now we're talking about our freedom or liberty. neil: it is part of the same thing. how would you weigh those priorities? is a mitch mcconnell meeting with harry reid or the president? >> we talked in unison with republicans and democrats agree betty works together. that is the key with political ideas to work together for the betterment. keeping constituents safe?

>> security comes first. period the president says isis is not muslim extremists period meet with him tomorrow? >> i tell him the truth and what i really think that terrorist -- isis is the terrorist group. whenever they are they're killing people and blowing up things and we have to work together to keep everyone in the united states we used to be the peacekeepers we need to get back to the old days. neil: so if somebody balks in negotiations you seem to pounce like of there. >> you have to be strong.

you have to be confident. neil: i thank you don't when the camera goes down of. [laughter] you make them think that you will. >> that type of the ideal is what they think. neil: they know where they stand with you. >> on wall not pussyfoot around i will make them understand my way is the right way. [laughter] neil: we could use a few more like that. hell hath no fury like the angel scorn to. when they bring out all over the almighty dollar.

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neil: tonight forget about if housing lost its appeal but is it lost period? to is the appeal of owning a home gone? with the potential buyers in the advance? how bad does this get? >> it is terrible. household formation with millenials is that will tie decade lows several generations it is a multi year lows. because you start to look at homes as an asset not investment after the market went bust some of us lost so much money but now all that

went away people are not investing not buying. >> be coz that this would is going on is a pricey the home ownership rate is lower than 1984 after fannie and freddie. we did infrastructure spending they were state sponsored infrastructure spending and it is amazing amazing, ownership rate is lower than of 30 years ago. >> that is scary pretty soon they get beastly but those victoria's secret angels are

leaving the runway because they discover they are getting paid more to come down the same runway. they have the right? >> absolutely. if they are paid 100 grand dash candidate ever getting millions and you wonder when richard trumka and will try to unionize the models but they do have to invest a lot of time they just did a dividend by back paid them more. >> i am anti-union but i may join in that union. put my life on hold the intake line number two with the super model is dead now you don't buy that because the girl runs - - the check is down the runway but

because it is mentioned on facebook or twitter senate people to go in there just because of the models and the sales are up they should be paid more. neil: james was just picked up to say by mcdonald's the food is a healthy even though he has a very lucrative sponsorship deal no word the viet what he plans to do but did he just kicked himself in the buns? gimmicky did and corrected himself to say he is eating sausages make muffins every day. neil: he has done this before. >> he has. some athletes have way too many endorsements like the bigger woods they forget which ones they talk for.

>> that's true. i agree. are they supposed to be a robot? i love that endorsements are fake but he says would is self-evident but i do like he tried to dive back pretty quickly that was entertaining. >> but normally sober behavior of those that pay that behavior so did they drop him? >> they have other problems on their hands but recently i have not seen an athlete or a celebrity with the product they try to sell. you can see right there he is pushing their food. neil: that is not breaking a my sponsorship deal with

victoria's secret. [laughter] >> bottom line you have to be aware. if you have a lot of sponsors keep up? >> you do but the leash may be shorter than we think because it does he really drive sales? i think there remains questionable. >> really expect the celebrities to buy and eat the consumer and -- the products they sell? >>. >> just in time for easter. neil: the president veto and regulating the internet. what do they have in common? i will tell you "what's the deal neil?"

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"what's the deal, neil?." >> what is the deal with an administration set to regulate the internet? it's called net neutrality. to hear some of you folks, nothing neutral about it. this is all about government and control, my two cents. gary -- i'll give 100-1 odwithin two

months of that law passing, internet fees go up to $40 and it's less efficient. tanna writes -- a lot of you convinced that it's just a dumb move. finally al in florida writes -- because you just did.

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