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>> thank you. >> i really appreciate the story and i'm definitely going to look more into it, and so you should. thank you for watching the show tonight. you can always follow me on twitter. catch up @kennedynation we'll see you monday night. outnumbered. right now lou dobbs.. >> good evening, everybody, i'm lori rothman in for lou dobbs. five months ago president obama blamed the intelligence community for failing to keep him informed about the growing threat posed by the islamic state. the top intelligence official seemingly struck back telling the armed services committee that the terror threat against america is expanding and last year was the deadliest on record for worldwide terrorist attacks. >> preliminary data for the first nine months of 2014 reflects nearly 13,000 attacks which killed 31,000 people. when the final counting is done, 2014 will be the most
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lethal year for global terrorism in the 45 years such data has been compiled. >> well that directly contradicts recent statements by president obama and his top diplomats. >> do you think the media sometimes overstates the level of alarm people should have about terrorism and this kind of chaos as opposed to longer term problem of climate change and epidemic disease? >> absolutely. and, you know, i don't plame the media for that. what's the famous saying about local newscasts, right? if it bleeds it leaks, right? >> there is actually less threat and less probability of people dying in some sort of violent conflict today than at any time in human history. and with advances of health and with advances of statehood and other kinds of things we're
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living in a very different world. >> lieutenant colonel ralph peters will join us weigh in on the mixed messages of terror coming up. the clock is ticking, fewer than 30 hours left until funding for the department of homeland security runs out. house speaker john boehner is still not saying how he will respond to a clean senate bill that would fund dhs and not gut the president's fiat for illegal immigrants like house republicans wanted it to. in a news conference boehner put the onus on senate democrats. >> i think it's outrageous that senate democrats are using homeland security funding for blackmail to protect the actions of the president. where the president said he didn't have the authority to do this. >> we'll be talking to house judiciary committee chairman congressman bob goodlatte on the stalled amnesty fiat for illegal immigrants.
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later, the longest serving republican speaker in history, dennis hastert joins us on reports that disgruntled conservatives try to oustboehner as speaker if he caves on the amnesty actions. we begin general clapper's comment reminding us that attacks by a lone wolf and the latest incarnation the so-called known wolf, a potential terrorist caught up in the federal dragnet only to be released making home grown terror a major concern for law enforcement agencies all across the nation. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge with this report. >> reporter: the fbi director also says they're finding credible terrorism leads in every part of the country. >> we have investigations of people in various stages of radicalizing in all 50 states. i tell my state and local partners, this is about all of
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us being connected tightly to each other. this isn't a new york phenomenon or washington phenomenon. this is all 50 states. >> reporter: privately, law enforcement officials dispute the idea that american home grown recruits are not the real thing, and the same officials tell fox news u.s. citizens could easily take on high-profile roles like the isis executioner jihad john who is a british national. three new york city men arraigned are a growing number of americans who are alleged isis supporters. according to court documents, the men in 20s were determined to support terror group and launch attacks inside the u.s. if they couldn't reach syria or iraq. 180 americans fit a similar profile as the threat expands in fragments. >> in my 50+ years in the intelligence business, i don't know of a time that has been more beset by challenges and
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crises around the world. i worry a lot about the safety and security of this country. the home grown violent extremists continue to pose the most likely threat to the homeland. >> reporter: the prosecution this week of alleged al qaeda operative drawing on intelligence from osama bin laden's compound shows the terror leader was determined to attack u.s. targets and american recruits with a gold standard. a separate review of court records by fox shows at least 35 americans or legal permanent residents have tried to join or provide support to isis since march of 2013. that averages alleged case of home grown terrorism strong enough to be pursued by federal law enforcement every two to three weeks in this country, lori. >> catherine herridge thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> intelligence officials not only warning about the growing threat from radical islamists here at home but across the globe. clapper offering this assessment about the islamic
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state's influence. >> isil is increasing influence outside of iraq and syria. seeking to expand self-declared caliphate into the arabian peninsula, north africa and south asia and planning terrorist attacks against western europe and shia interests. >> secretary of state kerry's comments that fewer americans are facing daily threats. that to sum it up. get to fox news strategist analyst, lieutenant colonel ralph peters. what do you think of the mixed message between the intelligence community and the white house? >> well, jim clapper is not going to take the fall again because he knows that the intelligence community had warned the administration over and over again about islamic state, which was then called isil or isis. and they blew him off and blamed the intelligence community. john kerry appall be mixing organic apples and imported oranges, don't worry about
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terrorism because mac will care so much better today. it's a non sequitur it makes no sense whatsoever. lori, to clapper's point, look, islamic state, the caliphate is now a global brand to rival coca-cola and mcdonald's. i mean those videos that we so abhor, beheading videos burning pilot video, these destruction of statues today and antiquities in the muslim museum. the trumpeting about sex slaves, et cetera, to offset, it's appalling, they know the audience, this is microtargeting with mastery. if you're a disaffected young muslim jail bird convert somebody just unhappy with the world, or feels put upon by the world for whatever reason, the message of islamic state is join us, god is going to empower you to torture people
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to kill, to rape to loot to take sex slaves, and if anything happens to you, you go to paradise. that may not move us but i'll tell you for the young thugs i've encountered myself around the world that is an incredible bargain, and marie harf of the state department thinks they need a job as a walmart greeter? >> what do you think of the president's response, it bleeds it leaks, do you think the media is feeding the furor frenzy and adding to vulnerability. what do you think of that line? >> which came first the terror or the headlines. >> true. >> the media did not create terrorism. now, to be fair, we are prisoners of the terrorists. we're hostages because when they stage a spectacular event such as the "charlie hebdo" massacre in paris. we have to cover it, we have no choice. the american people want to know. despite our best intentions we
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help give them their brand, build their brand so we're trapped in the middle of. this but the answer would not be keep the american people in the dark. so again keep it in perspective. without terrorist attacks there would be no headlines about terrorism. without islamic state's astrosities, you and i wouldn't be discussing it. >> which came first the chicken or the egg. give us an idea what should be happening between the intelligence community and the administration, because there really are set at the top mixed messages out there. the administration seems not all that concerned about the islamic threat right now. the islamic stata terrorists and terrorism and all of those actions and acts that you described. >> this is the most ideological administration we've ever had in american history. it is a hard left view of the world. obama, from the cradle up,
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surrounded by extreme leftists some smart some stupid. nonetheless, his view of the world is america is guilty of great crimes, on some level the terrorists and other insurgencies have a case. israel is bad, israel is imperialist. it's just so out of touch with reality, but it's a pretty typical view on campus. what you have is a president who represents the views of the liberal arts faculty lounge. my friends and i, those who serve in the military or intelligence, we represent the views out in the mud and the blood and the dust and the ugliness. >> and we appreciate your comments in joining us and your time this evening. ralph peters. >> thank you. >> the obama administration today announcing it will be dispatching national security adviser susan rice and u.s. ambassador to the united nations to speak before apac. two days after rice sparked
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controversy by calling benjamin netanyahu's decision to address a joint session of congress next tuesday quote destructive. netanyahu will also address the aipac conference which starts on sunday. neither president obama nor vice president biden, nor secretary of state john kerry will attend. white house press secretary josh earnest says that's skip the with the kind of administration participation we've seen in previous aipac conferences. members of the obama administration today having a tough time defending obamacare on capitol hill. first, the ceo of healthcare.gov would not answer a question on whether illegal immigrants have received benefits under obamacare. >> can you assure this committee and more importantly the american people that no illegals have signed up for obamacare and receive a subsidy or benefit. >> what i ascribe -- >> that's a simple question. can you assure the american people that no illegals have signed up and receive benefits from obamacare?
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>> what i've tried to do is to describe the process we do to validate -- >> that's not the question. you did that with my line of questioning last time. i'm asking you can you assure us no one is receiving benefits who is an illegal? >> sir, we have an elaborate process. >> we've been here an hour and a half. we would like one time for you to give us a yes or no. >> uncomfortable. well, the separate hearing, health and human services secretary sylvia burwell would not admit the administration had a plan, that despite burwell being confronted with evidence that hhs did have a plan b. >> the committee received recently specific information from a source within your department about the existence of an approximately 100-page document related to potential actions, hhs may take if the
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supreme court rules against the administration in king v. burwell. are you or senior staff at hhs aware of this document? >> mr. chairman, this say document i am not aware of. >> okay despite burwell's comments, experts believe the administration has a contingency plan but trying to keep it under wraps to pressure the supreme court into not ruling against obamacare. up next, it was a slow-moving white bronco, another chase captured this nation's attention for a period of time. the latest on the llamas on the loose. and the direct offer national intelligence points the finger at vladimir putin when it comes to america's biggest cyberthreat. our biggest expert shows us what the nation can do to
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. lori: cyberattacks the top threat to national security. believe it or not ahead of terrorism, that comes from the nation's top intelligence official james clapper. >> attacks against us are increasing in frequency, scale, sophistication and severity of impact. though we must be prepared for a catastrophic large scale strike, a so-called
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cyberarmageddon, the reality is that we've been living with a constand and expanding barrage of cyberattacks for some time. lori: i'm joined by top cybersecurity expert john lucic. do you agree they're a bigger threat than terrorism? >> they're growing nothing new, but they are escalating and more and more people realize they can do harm through digital ways as opposed to typical terrorism they're going to take advantage of that. >> i was going to say what was interesting to you about our biggest threats in terms of the nations coming up with the technology to really hack. >> one thing i found interesting, they reassessed russia and found them one of the top threats for cyberattacks against the united states. was not romney right all this time? you know, what's changed in the ideology is the only thing different here. they finally realize that
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russia is the huge threat that romney said it was. our digitala borders are wide open and borders are wide open. so people can actually come across any one of these borders, get intel information about our grid about, our nuclear plans and then go back and have better information to attack us digitally. lori: how is the intelligence agency, how are they protecting us from these international cyberthreats? >> agencies always do a great job as long as their hands are not tied. i think a lot of the organizations are holding biting their tongue because they can't do the things they really want to do, and i see this time and time again in the reports. lori: this dhs spending battle under way in congress they're meeting behind closed doors trying to hammer out an agreement. it's not looking promising. but will cybersecurity be affected by it if they can't come to an agreement and there is stoppage? >> no i don't believe that,
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because when you talk about cybersecurity, there's the government side of that. corporation is responsible for their own. we don't depend upon u.s. government to keep sony or anybody else secure. we're going to take that on as our own, we're never going to trust the government to do that. when you see them move towards a net neutrality what is free about the internet? why all this regulation? that is going to hamper security. lori: want to get your comment before we go on net neutrality where we stand and speaking of corporations and how they're handling this new thing? >> i said this for a long time. we do not regulate. we don't have to regulate that which is already free. it's going to be -- because remember where we came from, the internet came from the arpinnet. it wasn't this big thing we have today. only when put in the hands of the corporations that was totally free did we blossom into the resource we shared with the world. now they want to crush it with
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regulation and you're not going to see the innovation the power to bring this forward if it goes through. congress should step up. lori: john thank you for your insights. >> thank you. lori: let's get a look at our online poll results. we asked who do you trust more in the war against radical islamists, president obama or israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. 97% of you said benjamin netanyahu. be sure to vote in tonight's poll, whose assessment of the islamic state is more accurate. president obama or james clapper? cast your vote at loudobbs.com. scary moments for residents in the suburb of perth, australia after problem with underground electric cable led to a series of explosions. check that out. all kinds of smoke and powerful blasts. 150 nearby homes lost power. and here in the u.s. look at this one two llamas getting a taste of freedom running amok in a retirement community in west phoenix, arizona for about 45 minutes. the rogue animals captivated tv
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news watchers and the internet. when it seemed like they were going to be cornered. the llamas find a way to escape. apparently you can't chase llamas. authorities lassoed them, not before they created a whole lot of llama drama. had to say that. still ahead the nation's capital known as the headquarters for the war on drugs switching sides, and presidential wanna-bes front and center at one of the conventions, carl cameron the road. it can bring out the worst in people. but the m-class scans for danger... ...corrects for lane drifting... ...and if necessary, it will even brake all by itself.
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gop presidential candidates and this year they face direct questions from conservative pundits. laura ingraham asked chris christie how he can beat jeb bush with his famous family and huge donor base. >> the elites in washington who decide who the president's going to be he's the front-runner. if the people of the united states pick the next president of the united states and want someone who looks them in the eye, connects with them and is one of them? i'll do okay if i run. >> reporter: neurosurgeon ben carson kicked off as purveyors of division and said the country needs a new direction. they want their 2016 candidates to oppose common core education standards and immigration reform that grants citizenship to undocumented immigrants. ted cruz takes a back seat to no one in the g.o.p. >> if a candidate says they oppose president obama's illegal and unconstitutional executive amnesty. terrific! because the candidate says they
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oppose common core fantastic! when have you stood up and fought against it? >> reporter: carly fiorina blasted hillary clinton using the former secretary of state's own tweets to illustrate hypocrisy. >> explain why we should accept that the millions and millions of dollars that have flowed into the clinton foundation from foreign governments not represent a conflict of interest. [ applause ] >> she tweets about women's rights in this country and takes money from governments that deny women the most basic human rights. >> reporter: surging in the early polls, wisconsin governor scott walker drew the biggest crowd of the day. >> as of next week, wisconsin will become the 25th state in america that allows workers the freedom to choose whether they want to work for a company and be in a union or not. [ applause ] >> reporter: when protesters began to shout walker rallied
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the crowd to drown them out. >> those voices can't drown out the voices of the americans who want to stand up for hard working taxpayers. i'll continue to do that going forward. >> reporter: walker like the rest of the republican field took time out to go after president obama for not pursuing radical islamist terrorism. he raised eyebrows saying political experience in wisconsin gives him the ability to take it around the world it. may cause him additional questions what he meant. jeb bush faces hurtles when cpaccers think he's not conservative enough they maya walk out and bush aides are trying to prevent. that lori. lori: should be interesting. that's for sure. the latest quinnipiac poll out of iowa shows hillary clinton with an overwhelming lead over other potential democratic candidates. hillary take 61% of the vote more than 40 points ahead of next closest rival
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massachusetts senator elizabeth warren with 18%. the clinton foundation is found to have violated ethics agreement by accepting foreign donations during clinton's time as secretary of state. kevin corke has this report. >> reporter: call it a broken promise. a half million dollar donation from algeria to the clinton foundation in 2010 not properly disclosed to the state department. a violation of agreement with the obama administration signed off on by secretary of state hillary clinton and senior police adviser valerie jarrett. >> they've shown a commitment over and above the letter of the law, that's consistently followed. >> reporter: not so in the case of the algerian money, the foundation says it was for haiti earthquake relief but admits the state department should have, quote, been formally informed. >> it is the responsibility of the department of state to determine how and how compliance was enforced when it comes to the memoranda of
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understanding. >> reporter: it's the times of the donation that raises serious questions whether that money bought algerian interest and thes more access. the contribution plus 420,000 in lobbying efforts coincided with 12 meetings between algerian lobbyist and thes state department that year. according to "washington post." then in 2012 secretary clinton met with the president of algeria during a visit to the country. algeria making huge donations while the clinton's was the top diplomat as well as qatar accused of backing hamas and other islamic militant groups. the disclosure is a worry for democrats ahead of a potential clinton white house run with critics from watchdog groups worrying if rules are being circumvented. >> unable to get the records for years and years after she was secretary of state. i doctor a broken promise, if
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we were supposed to be able to know whether or not any of these conflicts existed, public was kept in the dark. >> reporter: since 2001 the clinton foundation raised $2 billion. a third giving a million dollars in that time foreign individuals in governments. in washington kevin corke, fox news. lori: many thanks to kevin corke. jeb bush is getting criticized from politicians on both sides of the aisle. this is president obama last night on bush's home turf at a town tall in miami. >> i appreciate mr. bush being concerned about immigration reform. i would suggest that what he do is talk to the speaker of the house and the members of his party, because the fact of the matter is -- [ applause ] >> that even after we pass bipartisan legislation in the senate, i gave the republicans a year and a half a year and a
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half, to just call the bill. we had the votes. lori: and this was potential rival senator rand paul last night. >> the fact that jeb admits that when he was in an elite prep school that he smoked pot, he's willing to put somebody in jail for medical marijuana in florida. a lot of poor people go to jail for drug offenses when he was in a wealthy school he used marijuana and didn't go to prison. it shows hypocrisy that is difficult for people to understand while we put a 6 66 5-year-old in jail for medical marijuana. lori: folks can be in possession of small amounts of the drug but no pot shops and no open air smoking. residents can also own up to six marijuana plants but only three can be budding to discourage selling. get all that? we'll be right back.
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sledgehammers to destroy ancient artifacts in mosul. terrorists have destroyed a number of shrines in an effort to eliminate what they view as heresy. other ancient artifacts are sold on the black market to finance their bloody campaign across the region. accusing argentinean president cristina fernandez of trying to cover up the bombs of a jewish center in buenos aires, the documents were filed by a prosecutor when later turned up dead failed to meet the standards to open a formal court investigation. house speaker john boehner not backing down on president obama's fight to block executive amnesty to vote on a clean department of homeland security spending bill. >> we have two different institutions that don't have the same body temperature every day, and so you know, we tend to try to work to narrow the differences. but sometimes there are
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differences. the house by nature and by design is a hell of a lot more rambunctious place than the senate. lori: okay. when pressed further whether the house would vote on a clean bill, he offered this somewhat bizarre response see for yourself. [ kissing sounds ] . lori: when i make decisions, i'll let you know. according to the hill, disgruntled conservatives are threatening to oust boehner if he caves. pleased to welcome the former speaker of the house dennis hastert. mr. speaker, so wonderful to have you with us this evening. what do you make of boehner's reactions and how he answered some of the reporters' questions right there? >> i think the last answer probably john's reiteration, i love you but i'm not going to tell you. lori: thanks, that does help to clear it up. so many twists and turns with
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the department of homeland security and getting the spending bill passed. you can give us more insight into what happens next and how this may ultimately resolve, or if it will at all. >> john boehner is a savvy politician, been in the leadership role a long time. even when newt was there. i think boehner understands he doesn't get in the box unless there's a hole in it that you can get out of. we watched the democrats today do a kumbaya dance saying they're not going to kick this thing down the road. this deal is not done yet we may see a short-term kicking it down the road. the other issue that you have to see is the difference between the house and the senate. and when you get -- when your friends in the senate leave you dangling like that it's not a good thing to build a future relationship on, and that worries me probably more than anything else. even during the years they was speaker, i didn't always agree
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with trent lott or bill frist, but we did work together, and we didn't try to leave each other hanging like this, and you know john is in a tough situation. he's got some members that have a very set way of what they think is right and wrong, and it's very hard to go ahead and pull people together like that in that situation. there's not a lot of room for consensus. and a very narrow trail to walk, and he needs to walk it. lori: i want to get your thoughts on boehner more in just a moment. but i have to insert this question because you're alluding to it. the hastert rule don't vote for a bill unless you have a majority supporting it right? do you think it would be applicable for bainner this instance? >> look, that's common sense, there's nothing new, and i think every speaker that ever took the gavel in the house of representatives really understood that you can't go too many times outside of your
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caucus or conference to get the vote us that need to pass policy. lori: so mr. speaker -- >> so my hastert rule is you have to have 218 votes and you have to make sure 99% of the time you have your own party with you. lori: all right, but 25 republicans already concerned about boehner and had some qualms, you know, and were a little bit iffy on whether or not he should maintain the gavel are speaking up again. so do you think boehner is at risk of losing his position as speaker of the house after this? >> i really don't think so, i've seen -- i was in the middle of a coup against newt the thing is you've got to have somebody that's ready to step in and do the job. i'm not sure there is anybody, they all voted last time for different people. i'm not sure there is anybody to step in and take on the
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tough job that john has to do on a day-by-day basis. they may threaten and that's their privilege, but when it really comes down to, it they have to bring consensus together. nobody is going to get everything they want. lori: we shall see. this is a developing story. dennis hastert, many thanks to you. >> my pleasure. lori: we're coming right back. stay with us. president obama claiming he's got the right to enforce the law as he sees fit. house judiciary committee congressman bob goodlatte on the amnesty fight and the president's latest assau
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. lori: and on wall street, stocks closing mixed. the dow falling just 10 point, the s&p down 3, the nasdaq gained 21 points. volume on the big board 3.3 billion shares trading hands. listen to lou's financial reports three times a day on the salem radio network, and tune into "strange inheritance" tonight to see how a 300-year-old violin left by their father disrupted the lives of one family. that's at 9:00 p.m. immediately followed by the debut of "strange inheritance" unpacked. president obama predicting executive amnesty order will hold up in court despite the recent ruling in federal texas court.
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he offered words of encouragement to illegal immigrants in a miami town hall. >> so we're going to be in a position, i think of going through the legal process over the next several months. in the meantime what people who would qualify for executive action should be doing is gathering up your papers making sure that you can show that you are a longstanding resident in the united states. you should be making sure that you've got the documents so that when we have cleared out all the legal problems and the application process is ready to go, that you are ready to go. lori: okay. let's get the take of congressman bob goodlatte, chairman of the house judiciary committee. sir, welcome, thank you for joining us. the president seems confident his executive amnesty on immigration is going to hold up. your thoughts. >> well, i don't share that confidence i'm not sure he does either, since he announced
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22 times to various audiences last fall that he did not have the authority to do what he then went ahead and subsequently did. so federal judge now agrees with that certainly the united states house of representatives agrees he doesn't have the authority. we passed a bill last month fully funding the department of homeland security and stopping his action, and i believe that this is likely to stand up in court because this is a real stretch to say that he can legalize five million people using the concept of prosecutorial discretion, which is that hard case that you have to deal with and the prosecutor gets the discretion to decide whether or not that's the best case to prosecute. now he's taking that to untold heights, and if he can do that he or a future president can use his pen and his phone to do most anything that the constitution reserves for the congress to do, that is to
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write the laws of the land. lori: congressman, a lot going on today. house closed-door meetings republicans hammering out the specifics. you can give us an update? >> well, yes we had a conference earlier this evening to talk about how to respond to the actions that the senate may take tomorrow, if they pass what's called a clean homeland security appropriations bill that funds it all the way through september 30, and we don't even know yet whether the injunction that is currently standing will hold up or not. we think that's inappropriate. we funded the department with a clear instruction that the president cannot use these funds or fees from people who are lawfully going through the immigration process to fund this illegal administrative amnesty, and we're going to stick by that, but we will if the senate passes a bill, then
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recommend, and we'll have a vote on going to conference with the senate to work out our differences, and in the meantime, we will probably have a vote on whether or not to keep the department funded during that time. and since the injunction is in place right now, it seems to me logical that we would keep the department funded as long as the president is stopped from taking this action. lori: i want to switch topics we're running short on time. but speaking of executive action, you recently wrote a letter speaking about potential ban on ammunition for the ar-15 rifles, mainly or often used by hunters. if you want to pick it up from there, the story and motivation, please. >> sure, this is the most popular sporting rifle in america, more than 5 million of them are owned, used for shooting sports and for home protection and the bullet that the administration has set up when they call a framework, the
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atf adopted a framework two weeks ago, which clearly has the intention of banning the second most popular bullet that is used in the ar-15. we don't think they are properly following the administrative procedures act, the process that includes notice and public comment on this. but we also think that this is simply another way that the president is attempting to use his pen and phone to get around the congress, which has kept our second amendment rights protected and this rifle is lawful under the law, but the president doesn't like the fact we haven't band the rifle, he's trying to find an administrative way to ban the ammunition used in it. lori: congressman bob goodlatte, thank you for making the time for us. obviously, your plate is very full. again, thank you very much. >> thank you, lori. lori: up next good news and bad news for hillary clinton. polls showing her well ahead as ethics questions about her
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energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule and both commonly succeed and are right. let's get to the "a-team." fox news analyst julie roginsky. thank you for joining us. where do you think we will be on monday morning? >> i hope that mitch mcconnell will post a clean bill. i'm hoping that the house will follow suit. i know that a lot of the republican base doesn't want him to do that. but voting on this separately, let's have a clean bill. there's too many things going on with concerns about people hitting the mall of america it's time to make sure that our national security stays above everything else. >> what are your comments? >> well, i think that she is right to mention mitch mcconnell. i think that we should agree upon with what he said when he came in eighth leader to say that we don't want to scare
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anybody. and we are doing exactly that. it is not that putting for republicans when we are establishing a new type of leadership, but yes, we will kick the can down the field and also taken a look at this idea that there's a lot going on with respect to the president's failed immigration initiative. i think ultimately that is where it's going to fall. >> obviously this is a situation, they are basically saying that the executive amnesty is illegal and that is going to carry some weight. >> yes, i think that he is probably going to get overturned on the appeal. let congress funded, and let them by whatever the court says. but we have to stop this. >> it seems like every time they have a spending issue up for debate, it is just that and then some. even john boehner was commenting on this.
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and i mean it's kind of tiresome at this point. >> it is a perfect storm and a very troubling one for speaker john boehner. not only do you have the conservative meeting talking about immigration with the republican party is going to do on the issue of open borders and securing the borders, but again you have the homeland security initiative and also a very cantankerous conference that his polling the speaker it sounds like the speaker of the conference rather than the speaker of the house. >> i like a healthy debate. good challenges, these are very good challenges for the heart and for the soul. there's a distinct battle for the heart and soul of the republican party and i think that there's a lot of fundamental conservatives, social security is and a lot of
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falls under the umbrellas of the republican party. i think many of us are looking at the same thing. and i do not show that touches base with you folks. "strange inheritance." >> a world famed musician dies. >> his love. his heart. his voice. >> it's more than 300 years old and could be worth many millions. this strange inheritance is more than about money, it's about a father's legacy. >> it was clear to us that he did not want it to be hidden away. ♪
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