like to share with us? we would love to hear it. send me an e-mail or go our web site . kennedy: all right. tonight, i got the glasses. so i am watching a federal law enforcement program strangle the very life out of entire industries it finds morally objectionable. it's called operation chokepoint. and no, it's not the upcoming sequel of "fifty shades of grey," it's a combined venture between the department of justice, the fdic and law enforcement agencies that pressure banks to stop offering financial services to what the government deems to be questionable businesses. wisconsin congressman sean duffy held a committee hearing on capitol hill to get answers.

he's one of the few lawmakers outspoken about this nasty program. >> i fear that activists at the d.o.j. and the fdic are abusing power and authority and going after legal businesses and, in fact, weaponizing government to meet their ideology beliefs. kennedy: that's absolutely right, congressman. to weed out the bad apples with sketchy payday loans, it started broadly targeting entire businesses, credit repair services, home based charities. pornography. online gambling, and what else sean duffy? >> gun dealers or short-term lenders or smoke shops or ammunition manufacturers. kennedy: ammunition, smoke shops? not good. if the obama administration takes issue with your business, good luck getting a bank account or credit card processing mechanism. now it may seem like a good idea to go after fraudsters

takingage of those in a pickle but what about the 23 states that have some form of medical marijuana and my sources say otherwise. either way, legal marijuana shops cannot get banking services because the federal government still classifies pot as illegal substance. it's hard to get a banker who client could get flattened by the federal government in near future. it has been impossible for legitimate dispensaries to operate in anything but cash because bank of america or citibank takes issue with the reefer, they will snuff your accounts so you never see green from your green. when businesses are forced to operate cash only, they not only create a ripe environment for money laundering, put at a greater risk of robbery. >> okay! >> that was a dramatic reenactment. if you are operating illegal

marijuana business, open all the accounts you want. operation chokepoint legitimizes inner pride and punish people who work hard and make money within a proper law abiding framework. what if you operate online? you're hosed. it has created very limited forms of redress, if you can't process credit cards, if you can't make bank deposits or payroll and take cash because you are online, you are out of luck, out of a job and have no one to turn to when you are wrongly targeted. and none of this touches on the fact potential billions of dollars of kept out of the economy if the dirty money is sitting around getting dusty and not putting itself to work earning interest. i'm watching you eric holder. used to be mo money, mo problems, and par from the course for administration that would rather golf and regulate than get the hell out of the way and let people prosper in

peace once and for all. tonight, the minimum wage is the rage, but running restaurants out of business, and i'm going to argue with people that it is a very bad law. university coaches are catching slack for receiving such high salaries. i think the argument might be a little more nuanced to that. i've got a personal message for gop presidential candidate ted cruz, are you listening ted? lock it up. i'll tell you why. i'm glad you joined me. i'm kennedy. ♪ . kennedy: hi, there isis. al qaeda. boko haram formed a trio of evil and operating in the sahara desert. recruiting people from the united states, europe and other countries, reportedly being trained as violent jihadists to further the aims of an islamist caliphate. well, mike baker is here to talk about that, a former cia,

covert operations officer and president of diligence llc. so, mike, welcome, first of all. >> thank you very much. kennedy: glad to see you in person, not in the remote in idaho fishing village. >> my compound, my bunker. i enjoyed the monologue very much. kennedy: i know that operation chokepoint is near and dear to your heart. >> running a business, and my business is not huge. it's a real concern. kennedy: it is. if the administration finds it objectionable, they could shut you down. i want to shut down isis, boko haram and al qaeda, and wondering is there a way to either -- because it sounds great having them all in the desert in one place training each other, because then can you just drop a nuclear device on them, which i'm not opposed to if there is no collateral damage, no civilian casualties. i am fine with that, because they wish us harm and want to kill us all. how can we get them to fight

each other? >> that's always sort of our general thinking. these groups are never going to get together because they hate each other. they hate us worse. there's always going to be the element of the enemy of my enemy. so we're not going to get to the happy day where we get them to kill each other sufficiently. at some point they find common ground. we're seeing that. there was a big talk about the turf he pissing that goes on between al qaeda and isis. they come together when they need do. kennedy: begrudgeingly. >> they've got a grander scheme, more motivation to kill us than kill each other out there. it's frankly -- we are always going to be having this conversation, as long as we continue to follow this sort of stalemate strategy. this policy of, as the president says, degrade and eventually slowly get to the point where we destroy, and talks about, and secretary kerry talk about a long difficult struggle. of course it. is a long difficult struggle

because we've chosen that particular strategy because we're all exhausted and the idea of putting boots on the ground is horrific from political point of view, and from people out there, who wants to do that anymore? but the truth, is unless we do it, it's not going to happen. we're not going to defeat them. >> i think it can happen, i don't think we have a diplomatic strategist who's capable or willing to get a coalition out there who's going to go kick serious ass on the home turf. time and time again, i think we can lead it morally, i think we can lead it systemically without leading it physically. >> that's where we disagree, and this is odd, we've never disagreed before. [ laughter ] >> so what our allies are expecting and awaiting to see is our actual leadership meaning boots on the ground. kennedy: and yeah. >> and without that, we can strong arm them, sure, we can be more aggressive, i agree

with the sense we can be more aggressive and that would be a happy day to take the lead and we provide the intelligence communications support, air support. that sort of thing. kennedy: you can provide it us to, we need the human intelligence where we have been talking. i want to switch to another sign of intelligence. according to the "wall street journal," israel spied on closed door negotiations between u.s. and iran. israel reportedly shared the inside information with u.s. lawmakers. they're on our side. to drain support for the negotiation pr within. hurts, don't it? >> no surprise, whatsoever. of course we know the israelis are very, very capable intelligence organization. we know they're desperate to know what's going on with the negotiations. trust me, nobody in the agency, in the cia, nsa or intel community is surprised at this notion, and we shouldn't be

upset about it. kennedy: what level of spying are we talking about? them paying people off that are inside. bugging devices? are we talking about malware on u.s. intelligence computers? what are we talking about? >> i choose all of the above. kennedy: sure. >> here's what any organization would do. we're the ones who apologize, any time we get caught with our hand in the bag, we feel bad about this. germans do, it french do it. kennedy: everyone does it. >> everyone does it. and the israelis are very good at it. this is a existential threat for them and speaks to how dismal the state of affairs is between the u.s. and this administration and the israeli, they shouldn't have to because we should be sharing the intelligence with them and working with them on the strategy, but that's not the way this is working, everything is turned upside down. kennedy: we used to, and you're absolutely right in regards to iran, i'll be curious to see how much this influences the 2016 presidential race because i've said it before, i think the candidates are going to

fall all over each other to convince israel they're best friends for life. >> they're going to view any candidate as better than what they have to deal with. kennedy: they salivate over the thought of hillary, believe it or not. mike baker, come back. >> sure. kennedy: tomorrow, why not? >> i'll be here. kennedy: we'll clear a spot at plexiglas oval desk. i'm going to argue with commies. a german plane tragically crashed. the best course of action if you god forbid are ever in a plane crash or plane makes an emergency landaing. i'm going to help you out in moments. stay here.

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. kennedy: hello there. nice to have you. tragedy struck in europe today as a germanwings plane crashed into the french alps with reported 150 people on board, and sadly, seems they have all perished. an awful, awful sight. horrific task trying to retrieve clues left from the crash. here to talk about what can you do if you are in a plane crash, creek stewart, a survival expert. the host of the weather channel's fat guy in the woods. though creek is thin, he takes rotund people and teaches them how to make it out alive. no one is expected to live through this, and speaks to

people's greatest fears about travel. if you for a survivable plane crash, what do you tell people they can do to increase their chances of living? >> well, i tell you what. the first thing in surviving a plane crash is really understanding when the most dangerous times are in a plane's flight patterns. and that is when the plane is taking off, and when the plane is landing. it's those two windows when almost 80% of almost all crashes happen to begin with. those are the times when you want to be paying attention, when you don't want to be falling asleep or using the bathroom or fiddling with luggage. you want to be aware of surroundings and listening to announcements so that you can be aware and ready to brace yourself for any kind of turbulence or impact. kennedy: creek, i'm going to ask you this, god forbid you are in a plane that breaks apart midair and you've got 8 minutes to make that awful descent back to sea level.

is there anything you can take on a plane to increase your chances of survival? does anyone make a civilian parachute that you can pack in a small backpack and rip and go. >> small compact parachutes exist. but commercial airlines are -- the logistics are actually gelth out of a plane falling apart in midair and deploying a parachute are virtually nonexistent, they are not designed like skydiving planes. >> it would be amazing. >> it would be a fete out of a blockbuster movie. the best thing you can do is hope to survive impact and try to exit the plane as fast as humanly possible. most planes burst into flames upon impact and you have a short window, maybe a couple of minutes to exit the plane. be in shape. not worry about luggage and to sit next to an exit on the plane. couple of good strategies. kennedy: i read that you had

written, that people slim and in shape have a much higher chance of surviving a plane crash. which is a good message for everybody. when booking a plane ticket try to get as close to an exit row as possible. a lot of people don't think about stuff like that, creek? >> sometimes it's the simple things that have the biggest survival impact. kennedy: you can't fly with a knife anymore, but can you still pack common sense, and i've had three knives taken away from me over the last few years at the airport. i'm sorry, tsa people, i don't know how they get in there. it must be the ghost in my house. creek, any final parting thoughts for people on the go? >> i tell you what, everyday items can be used as survival items. think outside of the box when it comes to survival. tiny things that you pack in toiletries kit can be used for survival, compact mirrors. think outside of the box when

it comes to surviving a plane crash, sometimes everyday item can save your life. kennedy: have you tried to get on "survivor." >> i have not, no. kennedy: you totally should. i wonder what a real survivalist would do on the show. thanks for coming on. >> you bet. kennedy: come on by the studios, show me how to use the mites for good and not evil. >> heck, yeah. kennedy: irs agent can go through your records after they left the agency. if they've been fired they can poke through your taxes and make your life an h-e double hockey sticks. i will talk about minimum wage. you're creepy, kennedy, is next. ♪ we love our smartphones. and now telcos using hp big data solutions

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. kennedy: welcome back, restaurants in seattle are warning that looming hikes in the city's minimum wage to $15 an hour is going to force them to cut back on staff and raise prices. it happens every time there's a big hike like this. i think it's going to work out great for major chains like olive garden. with the breadbasket, they need unlimited martinis there. we decided that last night. it's bad for small businesses and low income workers who tend to take those jobs. does it make me crazy for having those beliefs? it's time for you're crazy, kennedy. lock it down. linga linga bing bong. two democratic strategists for the price of 14, it is steven sigmund, the global strategy

group's senior adviser, and janice fuentes. founder of fuentes strategies. janice, i have lived in seattle, i have enjoyed the restaurants. i love that town, a great place. a socialist got onto the city council and started infecting people's brains with bad ideas on economics. we all know that when you raise the moirjs restaurants that have a razor thin margin are forced to either hire fewer employees, raise prices or go to automation, you go, sister. >> well, i'll tell you what's crazy. what's crazy the highest purchasing value of the minimum wage was 47 years ago. when it was 160 which is the equivalent of 1088 in 2014 dollars. that's what's crazy. and to the seattle, what's going on there is only reflecting what's happened in 2014. 15 states, 30% of the states

did something to increase their minimum wage. either by ballot or the legislators. there is something going on, and it is not necessarily untrue that some small businesses get hurt, even small business owners, two-thirds of them support raising minimum wage. they need people to have more money in the pocket to come spend it. kennedy: actually, no, they want fair markets and fair wages. >> some, not all. kennedy: sometimes it is not a one size fits all number that unfairly punishes small businesses like book stores we've seen close in san francisco and like the restaurants in seattle that can't afford to stay open. steven, i'm going to turn to you, because a lot of times leftist economists treat all businesses like they're walmart. that's not true. >> that's not true. however what's not true is the idea that $15 an hour drives jobs out. because it's about $30,000 a

year annually, it's not exactly wealthy. and in seattle. kennedy: are you saying that as a restaurant owner? have you run a restaurant? >> unemployment rate in seattle has gone from 9% to 3.9%. in every state that was mentioned as raising minimum wage, the unemployment rate is falling. it is not true that these things eliminate jobs by any stretch of the imagination. in fact, if there evidence is of it given what's happened legislatively and places where they increase wages they increase jobs. kennedy: here we go, a 2012 analysis of new york state minimum wage increases from $5.15 an hour to $6.15 an hour. 22% of younger, less educated workers found fewer jobs. that's what happens -- >> no. kennedy: let me finish now, sunshine. when you raise the minimum

wage, that means you are oftentimes limiting the pool of workers. so you have fewer people competing for fewer jobs because if you're paying more for something like labor, you will not be able to afford to spend money elsewhere. you understand that's basic economics. you know that? money does not materialize for small businesses. kennedy: not when it's such a small margin. in new york state, since 2012, the unemployment rate has dropped. kennedy: can you use all that voodoo and talk about labor participation and stuff like that, it has been proven time and time again, when forced to make decisions, restaurants will do things like automate. they will have fewer workers, they will do things like raise prices, and can you say that those are minimal incremental businesses but to small businesses, those are massive. go ahead. i think that's what a shame is if you do the math, and we can all sit here and talk about, can you talk about how bad it is, talk about how good it is, there's not one person listening that canta think if

you make minimum wage. $12,000 a year before taxes that, that is enough money for you or for your family to live in. kennedy: we're not going to start the living wage nonsense. every time you bring up living wage, you don't define what it is. you know what you should do if you want to make more money, start a business, make sure it thrives. get the government out of the way so you can prosper. i applaud, that thank you very much for being here. >> thank you very much for having us. kennedy: indeed. charlie leduff talks about how university coaches earn a little more than they ought to. a canine with business coordination skills and a human torch on the run. we'll tell you about that in a moment.

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what? we went to paris and had frog's legs. pervert. topic number 3. your dog may be a fetching genius, but poor fritz is not good at catching food niblets. he wants to eat doughnuts and hot dogs and tacos but lucky if he can catch a nibble. the rest is pelting him in the face. he looks like he's going to catch the feast, but no. take a look. good boy. ♪ . kennedy: yes! a taco! no! he has the worst paw eye coordination of any retriever.

ever, i wonder if fritz had his fill of live frogs or needs a good chinese brain scan. don't we all? topic number 4. kirk loved his job but really loved his girlfriend, so much so he got her name tattooed on inside lip. look at that. it's a very sweet and romantic gesture except his girlfriend's name is isis. he heard a few guys talking about the terror group in home depot and showed them the lip ink and they were creeped out and he was fired. home depot says there were other personnel issues like his boko haram tattoo. he tried to explain that's his mom's name, and the al qaeda he has emblazoned on his back is a tip of the hat to grandpa, al. come on, hater, man. we have a produce or our show named isis. shhh, it's okay, everything is fine. love you.

if you have weird stories you would like to see on the ."opical storm we would love to see them. by we, i mean tweet me, use hashtag "topical storm," get there now while the getting's good. more on operation chokepoint and another reason to fear and loathe the irs. plus i'm going to talk about whether or not university coaches are paid too much damn money, and i will give my personal message to a man named ted cruz. stay right here.

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ammunition makers and casinos. several committee hearings that are investigating the program began today. let us talk about it. guy benson is a political editor at townhall.com. charles cook is writer for the national review, and he's written the conserve tarn manifesto which is very good. john tierney, a science columnist at the "new york times" who has read charles book. gentlemen, thank you for being here tonight. let's talk about operation suck point. this is such a horrific, scary thing the government is doing, forcing banks to force businesses out of business. what's your take, john? >> the power to regulate is the power to destroy, and we should remember that every time we give the agencies power. if private companies were doing this, colluding to put someone out of business, they would be on trial, going to prison and the government will say you can't stop them unless congress tries to intervene. kennedy: that's what i said at the top, no regress.

if you are targeted by the program and there are several people who have small businesses and they've recorded the conversations they've had with banks, and they're like, hey, sorry, we can't afford the audits the federal government is going to give us if we don't put you out of business. people are saying you're being overly dramatic comparing it to soviet union or venezuela. what say you, charles? >> it's about power corrupting. there is on paper a good reason for a program like this. you could sell it certainly to the public. you could suggest you don't want drug dealers to run accounts. you don't want -- >> speak for yourself. >> that's how it would be sold. once you give the government power you suggest, they can run amok with it, i don't want the government having this capacity at all. kennedy: i agree with you, completely. and that's the thing, it started out targeting the payday scams, but shoved a bunch of other businesses under there, and that's how they justify it by saying there

would be a few bad entities here, let's go ahead and destroy the lot. >> no, see, this is a right wing fever dream, paranoid hoax. it is inconceivable that the obama administration would ever take the federal bureaucracy and weaponize it against idnological opponents. that would never happen. i can't imagine a scenario that would happen. y'all are crazy. kennedy: or it's the worst thing ever, and sean duffy is absolutely right. and it's sad we've got to this place, people don't bat an eye anymore. people are so used to being nanny state anded overregulated. it's hard to shake people out of outrage. how do you get worked up about something like this? >> the irs targeted the political opposition, under the direction of democratic senators and we shrug at that. this is more of the say. someone we don't lies, we'll use the executive branch to do what it wants.

>> i compare it to obamacare, say you have a couple of problems with health care. obamacare tried to solve those and 50 million other things and created such a horrible situation. >> i think to answer your question how do you stop pushing against it. because consequentialism is so rampant on the left. guns are bad, ammunition goes in gun, targeting those companies is a good thing. a lot of people think that marijuana is bad. what if the government went after supplies in colorado. you have to bring it back to people who disagree with you politically care about sxivenlth that's the point here. is that it's not just about the federal government having this under obama. many people dislike obama and guns. it's about what a future president can do with power, that's terrifying. kennedy: we have to think about it in those terms. every administration is going to have different objections with various businesses, and you cannot let them apply this

broadly. >> right, and when the ends justify the means, you have to, as charles said, flip it around, what happens when you don't like the ends. you think this could happen to us. that's the way you combat a whole host of things, what the current president is doing on executive overreach. kennedy: unintended consequences. new watchdog report from the u.s. government accountability office, the gao, they say that a former irs employee still has access to irs computer systems after they left the agency due to outdated software, without proper security functions. that's great. so lois lerner is going over ted cruz's returns? so make sure, be nice and flirty next time you are audited. does this surprise you at all? >> well, it seems their security was worse than hillary clinton's e-mail server. this is incredible that -- a mom-and-pop business that had

nothing worth stealing would not let a former employee log. in and the irs has got this data worth a fortune on the black market. you can sell it to identity thieves, business rivals, political enemies, and they're just letting people log. in a disgruntled fired employee can log in and sell the data. kennedy: some of the most sensitive data out there. what rivals it is what's on the healthcare.gov website. >> i've written about this before, the irs and the odd place it occupies within our debate. when the patriot act was passed we had over and over again, the government would be spying on book records. i don't want that to happen either for what it's worth. that seems never to have happened in the last 12, 13 years, and yet every year you are obliged to send all of the personal information to the patriot act. and the people who object to the patriot act don't object to that. when you add to the fact that can be easily compromised. it's a wonder there aren't people on the street with

pitchforks, we're so used to filling in the form which is what you were touching on earlier. that's dangerous in a free country. kennedy: i agree, i see it in southern california all the time. they shut down freeways and there's a massive social engineering that people don't bat an eyelash anymore. >> you get imured to it so it does not impact you directly. when it does, it's too late to do anything about it because everyone is callous about it. the irs says they need more money because their computer systems are ancient. and seems take they are ancient in a lot of ways. what are they doing with their $2 billion annual i.t. budget. kennedy: pensions. >> every single year? you think so, it's going to pensions? kennedy: old computers are retireing. >> they go to boca raton, sit on the beach and the checks are piling up.

kennedy: definitely right, charles, i'm so glad you point out truth. >> by the way, i'm not as concerned though i am concerned about the former employees about the irs, there was a story they hired back hundreds of employees fired for cause. one of which aside from tax cheating, one of the fired for cause reasons was they were mishandling sensitive taxpayer data. these are not former employees, these are current employees rehired after getting fired. >> yeah! >> they were former employees, maybe it's better to get them back. kennedy: bone up. cashing billions in boca raton. thank you for being here, appreciate it. goodness, such a handsome man panel. find out if i have cooking advice for ted cruz, blackmail for ted cruz or something entirely different for ted cruz. charlie leduff is going to talk about the highest paid

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♪. kennedy: hi there. in 39 of the 50 states, these united states, aren't they lovely? the highest paid public employee is a football or basketball coach. the top 50 college coaches are slated to earn $165 million. combined this year. charlie leduff is a reporter in detroit, michigan. he asked a michigan coach if he's worth the upwards of $5 million the university is going to pay him, and here is his response? >> i like making a buck just like the next guy, and yeah, it's not doing five times as

much work as somebody else or doing more work than somebody that's not the head football coach at university of michigan to. answer your question honestly, i would have to say no. kennedy: jim harbaugh taught me how to throw a football in my apartment. a true story. charlie leduff is a pulitzer prize-winning reporter, true story. he is a ledufftastic. welcome back. >> hi, how are you. kennedy: so good. what does jim harbaugh smell like nowadays? >> like a middle-aged man. kennedy: that is absolutely right, charlie. absolutely right. let's talk about the revenues that the schools make, especially big schools like michigan where jim harbaugh matriculated. they make enough money in football and basketball to offset the coaches' salaries, correct?

>> they pay for pretty much all the athletics at university. swimming, women's basketball, lacrosse, you name. it only 20 college athletic departments make money, usually football makes the money. so is jim harbaugh worth the money at 5 million? he would be, he will be if he can deliver wins and put people in the seats and keep the athletic department profitable because it doesn't siphon off the university. kennedy: i went to ucla, a public school. jim mora is the football coach there. he's done a phenomenal job of turning the program around. i love him. i would give him 3 million dollars of my own money if i had that kind of scratch. does it make me a hypocrite to be a limited government person but want my football team to win? >> no, it makes you a football fan. like you were saying, the top 50 coaches make 165 million combined. 50 governors of the united states, 6.5 million. you get what you pay for, if

you know what i'm talking with the state of politics. you want to win, you want to keep your pockets out of the students' hands and taxpayers' hands. you have to win in football or do like the university of alabama-birmingham did and said we can't afford, it it's gone. kennedy: yeah, but saban makes 6 million? 8 million? tons of money. >> over 7. >> the chancellor said it is one of the best financial decisions he made is giving him thatchscratch? >> alabama is in terms of profitability, their athletic department, one or two, he's worth it. if you are just look at it dollars and cents. if you are talking about subsidies for me, michigan and michigan state both make money, i don't have to pay for the athletics. you go to auburn, do you love football more or lower tuition more or research? that's the deal here. but me, i was a michigan football cheerleader. kennedy: is that true? >> yeah.

me and jim went at the same time. that's why i showed up in the yellow sweater. kennedy: that's how you got the interview. that's fantastic! i figured he was a charlie leduff fan. i figured he was huffing leduff. >> he is a leduff fan. kennedy: i didn't realize you had academic history. >> i can do more push-ups than him. kennedy: at this point, i believe. >> just saying. five million? >> i think he's a better college coach than a pro coach, honestly. i think he likes to whip those people into shape. what is the ultimate solution, the satisfying solution for limited governments, charlie leduff? >> in terms of college athletics? >> yeah. >> do you it the michigan way, which is you don't take from the public trough, and you deliver a good education for the kids that come through that program because most of them don't get to play pro ball. educate them and win, baby.

oh, and by the way, how did he teach to you play a ball. tell me the story quick. kennedy: we met at the palm restaurant in beverly hills. 1991, it was right before -- sorry, 1993, it was right before the super bowl which was played in l.a. and i met him and dan marino and jim and i had a phone relationship when. y was in new york at a rangers game, we went back to my apartment, i had a very long apartment and he taught me how to throw a football. kennedy: just that? >> that's as far as i'm going to go, charlie leduff. kennedy: good story. i appreciate you coming back. charlie leduff. >> i'll look you up in new york. thanks for having me on. kennedy: sweet. i'm going to give my first pep talk, which is actually a message for ted cruz. i know the senator from texas and now presidential candidate, he will have his eyes glued to the screen, and hopefully you will as well. i adore you. no chest-beating monologues about

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. kennedy: i have a special night cap for you this evening. people are intrigued by the presidential lonely ted cruz, the only guy to throw his wizard hat in the ring, so everyone is a sponge for speculation. i have some advice for toasty ted, ted, lock it up. in your followers feel the way many of us do. they're exhausted, angry, let down by the good intentions but bad effects of big government. do not dwell on the negative, senator, it's a siren song, but if all do you is drop bombs, launch grenades and engage in attacks on the president, you're going to come off sounding like him and crash into the cliff. he made a cottage industry and built a presidency on bad-mouthing his predecessor. the most fervent hope soured on the stale trend. have you too much in common, harvard, few years in the senate. silver tongues, differentiate

yourself, buddy. here's the other thing, ted. whether it's people in texas politics, your republican colleagues in the senate, even fellow supreme court clerks, they all say you're a creep. have you tremendous force of will and a clear ability to connect with people who like you but risk the shrinking small pool. knock it off with the negatives, if you overcompensate by being too positive, you will come off like patrick bateman from american psycho. if you want this, drum up solid plans on the economy and foreign policy and knock it off with the vague hyperbolic declarations. if you can, convince penelope cruz to join your campaign. tell people she's your sister, tom cruise is your brother, and when the three of you combined forces you will cruise to victory. see what i did there? thank you so much for watching the show tonight. follow me on twitter @kennedynation and

facebook, kennedy fbn and e-mail me day or night, when negativity strikes it's kennedy@foxbusiness.com. let us cruise into the night together. good nice to you. this. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. i'm lou dobbs. a german jetliner crashed in a remote section of the french alps today. all those aboard presumed dead of the germanwings a320. it fell from its cruising altitude of 38,000 feet descending for a full eight minutes. no distress call from the pilot during that entire period. we'll have the full report on the many questions raised by the crash here tonight, including the possibility of a terrorist attack. also tonight, it turns out that president obama's relationship with