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away from you, either. have a grade weekend, everybody. happy easter, america. david: have a wonderful holiday weekend, everybody. "the willis report" is next. gerri: hello, everybody. i'm gerri willis, and this is "the willis report." the show where consumers are our business. chrysler ordered to pay one of the largest jury awards in history. $150 million to the family of a 4-year-old killed in a crash. the case raises new questions about the safety of one of the most popular cars on the road. forget what the white house says, new employment numbers show how weak the economy is. >> obama-nomics isn't working. only 126,000 jobs created. gerri: also the irs ordered to release the list of tea party groups it targeted. it will comply? a self-driving car completes the first
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coast-to-coast trip. >> we thought it was time to put a road trip together the mother of all road tests. gerri: are consumers ready to give up control of their cars? all that on "the willis report" where consumers are our business. the family of a 4-year-old georgia boy has been awarded $150 million after a jury found chrysler guilty in his horrific death. remington walden that's his picture right there. riding in the back of the family's 199 9 jeep grand cherokee when the car was involved in a rear end crash causing the fuel tank to leak and burst into flames. joining me shaun cane and plaintiff attorney bob hilliard. welcome to you both. sean, i'm going to start with you i'm no engineer seems to me putting the gas tank near the rear axle not a great design. tell me how you analyze this
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design? good? bad? is it leading to accidents? >> clearly putting a tank that close to the crush zone is a big problem and a known problem. obviously go back to the pinto and before the pinto it was a bad idea. fact that chrysler did this in such late model vehicles was stunning, and no surprise we are here today. david: bob so if i understand it this is the largest settlement in actual damages. is this going to cause a flood of lawsuits? >> it should gerri. good to see you again, by the way. the problem is the gas tank is filled with gasoline and literally inches from the back bumper, and six inches below the bumper. so a small impact from behind, if you have a child in their booster seat like young remy was aunt got out of the car without any injuries the other driver without injuries. took more than a minute for this poor child to burn alive as a result of the terribly
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defective gas tank placement. gerri: i want to show a picture of the rear of that vehicle. you can see how close the gas tank is to the rear of the car. if you run into, it you're going to hit it knock it out of place. the gas tank is going to rupture, and create a fire. look at the actual car after this vehicle crash and you can see that it went up in flames. tragic. i can't imagine the family what they've been going through with this. sean, to you, we knew about this for a long time. come on. we talked about this forever, nhtsa sort of got involved. there was a private meeting between nhtsa the auto company why didn't anything happen? >> this is actually a really interesting point in history is that we had a government investigation open since 2010,
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and by 2013, that investigation was upgraded. the government was going to have to make a decision fish or cut bait. they were going to have to decide, are we going to force this forward and look to do action to force a recall? at the same time, chrysler was gearing up to play hardball with the agency. so what ultimately culminating is the meetings between then secretary of transportation ray lahood and the administrator met in secret with chrysler and cut a deal for a fix-it that is not going to fix the problem. gerri: what was the fix? >> to put a trailer hitch on the back of this vehicle which even according to chrysler, it was only going to provide slight incremental benefits in low speed crashes. the problem isn't low speed crashes, it's high-speed crashes that the tanks explode with such fury.
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so the reality is it doesn't fix the problem. gerri: doesn't fix the problem, and bob, really? a hitch? we're going to put a hitch on this car? what do you make of this? >> well and i'll tell you this is where reality is stranger than fiction. the trailer hitch didn't even work as a trailer hitch. they simply said this would give you a little more protection from very low speed impacts and sean is exactly right. this was a secret meeting and nhtsa blinked. you know, they xlly capitulated to chrysler they had a fix which allowed chrysler to save money but not safety related. gerri: wow. that's damning. >> the little fix would not have saved this little boy. gerri: i want to get your reaction, we covered the auto industry a lot of the problem we've had bob on a lot to talk about the ignition switch failures and now seen nhtsa at work, upclose and personal. i have to tell you, sean it's
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not impressive. what's going on? are they too close to the industry? why aren't they more righteous about fixing -- a 4-year-old boy dead for no good reason. >> a complex problem, institutional problem that goes back decades. agency is outmaneuvered by the industry. they don't get the funding necessary, on top of that there is the revolving door problem. in this case what's amazing is the administrator, david strickland who cut the deal, subsequently left within months, is now working for a law firm in d.c. that does lobbying for chrysler. gerri: wow! goodness. my goodness. bob, quick reaction, why can't they get the job done? >> you know, they're not even in bed with the auto industry. they are literally co joined twins gerri. they're outspent. they're not adversarial. they don't keep the car industry at arm's length and
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try to cozy up and cut a deal without thinking about the safety consequences. until you see that beautiful little boy who's picture you just showed and you think about what he went through in the last 60 seconds of his life is because of nhtsa and because of chrysler. gerri: i want to mention one other story quickly before we go. a woman, kayla white, 23, pregnant died in one of these cars. just before dying went to the car dealership, asked for the hitch, they said we can't get it done. sent her on her way. she died the next day. if you want to know if your car is recalled for any reason at all. go to the nhtsa website, enter your vehicle's model, year, make, and model information, you can find out if you need to get something fixed or changed. ohio federal judge ordered the irs to turn over a list of nearly 300 tea party groups
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whose applications for tax-exempt status were put on hold by the agency after a class-action lawsuit claim constitutional rights were violated. joining me is hans von spikowski. i hope i got it right. >> you got it right. david: you have to turn these over and the judge is demanding it. >> they tried to get a protective order and the judge not only denied it but issued an order compelling them to turn this over. it's a big procedural wayne for the tea party organizations in the lawsuit. david: of course the irs, their defense is it violates privacy laws and couldn't do this. they've been approved to listen to your telephone calls. they certainly have no issue looking at our personal information. are they talking about out of both sides of their mouth on this? >> particularly are.
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the statute they were relying on is a statute intended to prevent the irs from publicly disclosing people's tax returns. the irs instead is trying to use that same statute to not turn over information about their abuse of taxpayers. gerri: wow. okay, we've already seen the irs decline to give information to the congress when it's been subpoenaed, right? >> right. gerri: no we're not sharing and the ig comes in and says the information is in plain sight, i found it. is that possible? is there any way for the irs not to comply to say we can't find it. we don't know where it is. it's on a tape we lost years ago. >> no, because the judge ordered them to turn over some very specific information, and it includes the list of almost 300 organizations that the irs sent to the inspector general. so they're not going to be able to say they can't find this. the only thing they could do is
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defy the judge that would open them up to frankly serious sanctions against the justice department and potentially the treasury department. gerri: i want to mention and talk to you about a woman named tackesia brown worked for irs. now in big hot water. basically she won money for a private client in an auto accident and took the money herself, if i'm understanding the details correctly. what happened? and why would somebody working for the irs do something like this? >> well, it wasn't just she was working for the irs, she was working for the ethics office of the irs, which would come as probably no surprise to a lot of american taxpayers. what i don't quite get in this is what she was doing representing private clients when she's working for the irs too. gerri: little outside work, little bonus little extra. >> what's interesting about
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this case is that at one points, she apparently left a file, a private file about a taxpayer on a party bus, headed i think to new york, and when she was caught she said my boss, he'll cover for me. david: maybe not. she's no longer working for the irs. gerri: i got to tell you, i have to share the details that we repeat often, i'll admit it. irs rehires exstaffers who have big problems. 824 of 7100 employees h employment issues. of those 141 had documented tax problems. so they hire these people back despite the fact that maybe they don't pay their taxes. they've had some other kind of issue. it seems to me if you were at the gate. charged at the helm with collecting taxpayer dollars, this would not be the way you operated? >> no it wouldn't, and keep in mind, not a single one of the
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employees who was involved in this targeting a conservative organization which san abuse of the law, violation of the law, none of them have suffered consequences. lois lerner retired with a full pension. she hasn't had any kind of financial consequences from what happened. gerri: you know you and i have to be nicer, it's almost april 15th, my friend. [ laughter ] >> thanks for coming on hans great to see you. >> sure any time. gerri: thanks a bunch. all next week, just a reminder another "the willis report" user's guide as we focus on tax tips, scams and getting the deductions that you're due. and looking out for you, if you have tax questions let us know and our experts will answer them. drop an e-mail by going to our website gerriwillis.com. still a lot more to come this hour including why credit card safety features may not be implemented any time soon. and next, 148 people mostly
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students gunned down at a university. why? because they're christian. is the world ignoring this persecution? we'll have the latest. let me know what you think, tweet me at gerriwillis.com. we'll be right back.
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. gerri: for christians holy week is the most important time of the year. they are the target of religious extremists. christians have been the target of terrorists and religious zealots. and let's be clear, muslim terrorists. most recently the slaughter of 147 christians in kenya. with me is the president for islamic forum of democracy and the author of the book battle for the soul of islam. and former u.s. navy lieutenant commander. tell me why is the world ignoring the slaughter of
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christians? >> gerri, american muslim you can't help but think it's because nobody wants to address the elephant in the room the persecution of christians is because of radical islam is. because our communities, our muslim communities are in denial, and in order to address it you have to have a strategy against the global jihad. these countries which they're being decimated and genocides are happening against christians in kenya in syria in iraq, the jewish community has long been gone because of a similar process of pushing them out of countries so they can be pure islamic countries and lose their soul of christian history and jewish history of the middle east. gerri: you know i read every church in iraq was surrounded by a blast wall. i don't understand why don't you see more reporting on this? because you know, yes we heard about this most recent example, but it's something that's going on every day.
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if it's not people being beheaded or killed or maimed they're being beaten up in the streets. why? because they're christian. >> and that's so true, and we have to get back to our roots as americans which is about religious liberty against theocracy, and muslims are fighting this same battle today. the same ones that attacked the muslim radicals that attacked the cops in egypt just last week, that same town that had the horror of the beheadings of families in libya saw another attack against trying to build a church in egypt. modern muslims came to protect them and push the savages out. there are solutions happening. we're just ignoring it. gerri: but the population of christians in the middle east, i've read i don't know how accurate this is from 20% to 5%, it keeps going down down, down, ultimately if christians are driven out of middle east where they've been for centuries, what will be the impact? >> that's so important. i can't underscore that enough. if you want hope for liberty for freedom for democracy, you
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have to have a middle east that's diverse. if that diversity leaves so also does the soul of the middle east and the chance for freedom, which is based in pluralism and diversity. our president signed a bill for special envoy in religious minorities to protect the minorities in august 2014. that position still has not been filled. it needs to be higher in the priority if we want a free middle east and the arab awakening not to get filled by radical islam and the more of the sunni shia sectarianism. these allies like the saudis and i don't know maybe iran is an ally they're fueling the radical ideologies throughout the middle east that are fueling these militants.
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i think the catholic church is reminding us that the christians need to be protected and calling on muslim leaders, imagine if the pope reminded the imams every friday to say it is a muslim's duty to protect christian minorities jewish minorities and others. unfortunately i think political correctness prevents. that we're hearing some good things for the christian leaders from the pope and the coptic church and i hope the catholic community will begin to hold us muslims accountable for what's happening by the radicals being produced by the ideas within our communities. gerri: it's no surprise that this is happening during holy week. deeply concerning nonetheless. zuhdi thank you for coming on the show. >> thank you, appreciate it. gerri: we want to know what you think?
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is the world ignoring the persecution of christians in the middle east? vote. i'll show the results at the end of tonight's show. later, our legal panel answers the question who should be responsible for a hazing death? and credit card companies are coming up with ways to end data breaches. we're looking out for you and your money coming up after the break.
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. gerri: heads-up consumers. the latest credit card technology designed to keep your personal information safe is getting pushed back in thousands of stores nationwide. they say they can't meet an october deadline to update equipment. here with what that means for your money, robin seidl, senior
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writer for the "wall street journal." pleasure to you have on. who's behind this move to stop the improvement in my credit card safety? >> the food marketing institute which represents thousands of retail food stores as well as pharmacies sent a letter last week to visa, american express mastercard and discover saying hey, we know we're supposed to have our equipment updated by october we're not going to make that deadline and would like to you push it back. gerri: 2016? >> no indication that's going to happen. gerri: no surprise they knew the deadline was coming. >> they are having problems getting the equipment. there's a 16-week delays in ordering equipment, and they also are kind of concerned about putting in new technology ahead of the holidays. gerri: my goodness. october didn't work for them, they'd rather a different time in the calendar. doesn't this mean money to them? aren't they worried that consumers won't like these
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cards? >> i don't know if they're worried. it is money. it costs a couple hundred -- could be a couple hundred dollars per machine just for the machine. you have to upgrade software and hardware and train your cashiers and train the consumers as well because the cards work a little differently. gerri: it's a big impact to the bottom line ultimately, and that's probably playing a big role in decision to delay this out to 2016. >> yes. gerri: will they be successful? >> i don't think so. there is no indication that visa and mastercard discover and amex are changing deadline and what it means is if you -- i have one of the new credit cards and i use it at a merchant that does not accept them and i have to use the old-fashioned swipe and there's fraud, the merchant is liable. today the bank is liable. that liability shift changes in october. so the merchants will be on the hook. it's in their interest to update their own machines so that they don't wind up paying for fraud losses. gerri: they should pony up and get it moving.
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that's in their best interest. what would you say to consumers tonight who are worried about this? >> i think there are first of all, the consumers are getting the new cards, and there are certain stores that are already live with this. some of the big ones walmart is target is, if not completely live is getting live, home depot. both of which obviously were breached and not a lot of problems. merchants are getting them, it's a matter of where you go and whether or not it makes a difference. gerri: will they tell consumers when everything is go? >> they won't tell you, you can easily tell. you won't be swiping. if you have to insert and dip your card that's the new upgraded terminal. if you are doing the old-fashioned swipe. it's an old-fashioned terminal. gerri: great reporting. >> thank you. gerri: shocker from the labor department leaving many to question if we're headed back into a recession. the details on the labor report and advice. and students sued by
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parents after their son dies in a hazing incident. are all fraternity members
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♪ gerri: just wanted to let you know. we received moments ago a statement from the president on the shooting at a kenyan university where 147 students were shot and killed. all of them christian. they were targeted because they were christian. they were asked are you christian? if they answered yes they were killed. this statement from the president which is lengthy contains no mentions of christians. it decries what happened but talks not at all about the religious affiliation of the people who died. tragic. well on to our legal segment. congressman's son named in a new lawsuit following a hazing death. john, a democrat from delaware is named as a defendant from parents of a 19-year-old
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student. he was killed when he fell off a bridge in south carolina in an early morning fraternity stunt. should other fraternity members be liable? with us now attorney derek reid. welcome to you both. lisa wield i'll start with you. (?) the court documents don't say how the boy went over the bridge. was he pushed? >> we don't know. long-standing tradition of really forcing this kids to hurl themselves over the bridge. over different bridges. and, of course, in this case it was tragic. we don't know whether any of the fraternity brothers as they were, actually pushed this kid over the bridge or not. we know he's dead. they ran away. tried to delete emails. >> there's a picture of him right now. looking at the boy who died. i want to bring up the fraternity statement. the lawsuits filed this week have made allegations not substantiated by clemson
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university, and i hope i'm saying this correctly. or county sheriff's office. derek, to you. the fraternity says we can't be blamed. do you agree? >> well, the fraternity has different liability here than the individual members. and, you know, the reason this case is news is because one of the defendants is the son of congressman john carney out of delaware. >> yeah tragic nonetheless. >> tragic nonetheless. that's why it's in the news. sixty men and women have died in fraternity-related incidents since 2005. >> should the fraternity be held liable, though? >> absolutely. they said they have a long-standing tradition of forcing these kids -- >> it was their idea. >> not only their idea. they perished it on these kids. >> no evidence it was pushed on these kids. this was a run -- now fraternities are liable if they get their members together for a run. i mean there is no alcohol involved here.
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toxicology results came back negative. this was an early morning run. to extend liability -- >> from what i understand here, this young man was asked over and over to furnish breakfast or everybody. >> he didn't apparently. he was supposed to bring 30 egg mcmuffins. i don't know where the number 30 came in. he didn't come with the right amount. he was teased. >> but the thing is your stat speaks -- it makes my case. all these young people have been killed in what's hazing. they're really pushed into it. they want to join the fraternity. >> the county sheriff has come out and said there is no indication that hazing played a role in this man's death. >> that doesn't make any sense. this boy would go out on
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a morning -- for a run and let me just decide to throw myself over a bridge -- >> so threw himself over a bridge. the water was really shallow. he died on impact. >> horrible. >> the kids ran away. who should be liable? >> well in this case it's going to be very difficult i think to certainly have the individual members held liable unless they were the bad actor. unless they were the ones who threw this young man over. if that's proven that's criminal activity. >> not even throwing him over. this is a wrongful death case. the students that were all there. all the fraternity students involved -- as should the fraternity should be sued if they knew about it. >> you can see, a big disagreement there. thanks for coming on. we show you a record-breaking car. and, next major uncertainties about our economy as march jobs report disappoints in a big way. ♪
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♪ >> did you see the monthly jobs number this morning? job creation slamming to a halt in march. the big monthly jobs report from the government revealing employers added the fewest number of jobs in more than a year. and according to the president though these numbers are cause for celebration. president obama: that adds up to 3 million jobs over the past year. more than 12 million jobs over the past five years. that's the longest stretch of private sector job creation on record. gerri: here with possibly a more accurate picture of today's economy peter. and the economist business professor at the university of maryland. welcome back to the show. good to have you here, peter. is there something i don't understand? was there a problem with the calendar? was it the snow? what was happening? >> no. it was none much of those things. the economy is not growing as rapidly as it was the middle of last
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year. (?) employers got way ahead of themselves. they hired too many people in 2014. productivity growth was zero in the private sector. so now as the economy continues to expand albeit at a moderate pace, they can get by with the workers they have. it's that simple. >> work force participation rate 37-year low. people are being asked to get by, make do with part-time jobs. jobs that don't pay what they want. what do you make of the wage scenario out of this report? >> well, the wage scenario is particularly good. up 2.1% year over year. which is more than workers deserve. the zero productivity growth wages are up. with the large contingent work force we have those people on the sidelines that aren't looking for a job, for example, six or 7 million men between the ages of 25 and 54 fall in that category.
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any time wages start to creep up, they start to get off the couch and come back in. there is a lot of women at home with small children or younger children i should say in the ranges of six to 12 who would be more inclined to work if they earned more because they could afford the child care. >> you said at the top of this that basically companies that hired too many people last year, now they're totally turning around. let me show you just how surprised economists were. the consensus expectation 245,000 jobs would be added. only 126,000. are wall street economists out to lunch? what is going on that they can't see the picture for what it is? >> how many republicans can you find on wall street? wall street economists are positive for the president. i'll put it in the plainest terms, if you want a reasonable bank forecast go out to wells fargo. not located in new york.
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they're predicted the jobs growth for the year will slow down significantly. not 125,000 for a month. this was a low month. we've had high months before. we'll likely level off at 215 or 200 a month which is not as good. that's nonsense. the president is the ultimate spend doctor. ronald reagan created twice as many jobs because he had twice as much growth. we need another stimulus package let's raise taxes on the wealthy so we can get -- >> wait a minute. you make a good point here. because this really points to something more than just a bad -- a bad month. >> right. gerri: they also revised down january and february. >> right. gerri: are we tipping into recession here? is there a contraction in our horizon? >> i don't think so. but i can no longer rule it out because we have other headwinds. we have the falling price of oil. iranian oil will come on stream.
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it's down for good. the oil patch, a good source has gone away. a lot of catchup in the auto sector. not a lot of growth there now. we had the stronger dollar. a lot of things working against us now that make this year not as good a year as last year. it's that simple. >> let me interrupt you for a second. the atlanta fed revised down their forecast for the first quarter gdp growth for zero. zero is so close to negative, i can't tell you. i mean, we could be on the tipping point of what might be another recession. it's hard to tell that we're in growth mode right now. but you've seen the estimates, the back dialing, the backspinning on eps growth fort quarter. you know what's going on. >> well i think that janet yellen will probably board up the atlanta fed for putting up numbers like that. i mean, they're just out of step. let's face it.
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you must be a good democrat if you're on the payroll. i can't rule out a recession. last year the first quarter, because of extreme weather, we went down a couple of percentage points. my forecast is 1% for the first quarter. which is not good years. let's put it this way. it wouldn't take much to tip us into a recession. >> all right. thank you for coming on. i hope you have a lovely weekend. happy easter to you. what do you do if you're looking for a job in today's down market? tony, author of four books on how to find a job and creator of job search solution.com. all right, tony you've heard these numbers. (?) they are bleak. what's your first step to finding a job? >> well, the first thing you have to realize is you know, those six to 7 million men he's talking about, half of them don't go out and look for a job because of the emotional strain of looking for one. next to death of a
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spouse. death of a child. death of a parent. coupled with divorce. looking for a job is the most emotional thing people do. and 50% of the people are so scared they do absolutely nothing and then they say the economy is no good. the sky is falling. there are no jobs out there. they are there. they're just really hard to find, and you need to be emotionally prepared for the difficulty. >> you know, you will get noes. you have to be prepared to hear noes. you need a step-by-step plan to get going. >> massive action overcomes fear. the people who start looking for a job, the moment they get laid off, the moment they lose one find a job faster than those -- in fact, if they have a 50% chance at finding a job than those people that wait 90 days. you have to develop a massive action plan. a system -- a system of getting in front of a
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lot of people, of interviewing very well of following up with your interviews very well. and keep doing it and doing and doing it until you find a job adopting the attitude that failure is not an option option. >> it's a numbers game. the more people you call the more people you contact and recontact and recontact the better off you are. >> well, and people don't realize that in a job search, only one out of every ten things that will happen to you are positive. you're going to get nine negative things before you get one positive thing. and people will get through about eight negative things, and they go, this isn't any fun. i'll take a walk. >> we put a full screen of your advice. it says, it takes 100 calls to communicate with ten hiring authorities. one on average will interview you. it takes 12 to 14 interviews to get hired. you see the statistics there. it's tough. and it's not -- you know, i think the problem is people think it's me.
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i'm a horrible person. i'm a bad candidate. it's really the system. it's how it works. right? >> well, and it's the economy. it's tough out there. and you just have to realize, you have to make the numbers work for you and get in lots and lots and lots of numbers. and therefore you're successful. and those statistics that will take three or four months to do. that may be a job offer you don't want. so you have to be ready to just put in the numbers and work the process. if you focus on the process, you don't have to worry about the result. >> oh, i love that. tony. i appreciate your advice. the website is the jobsearchsolution.com. he has great information. thank you so much. >> thank you gerri. always a pleasure. >> still to come, a self-driving car has completed a 3400-mile trip across the country. an up close look at the car coming up. ♪
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♪ gerri: 3400 miles with the drivers hands barely touching that wheel. the self-driving audi q5. drove itself 99% of the way from san francisco all the way to new york city. and i had a chance to see it in person when i met up with jeff owens. the chief technology officer. >> 3400 miles. fifteen states. about eight days. 99% in automated mode. even much higher than we thought. >> that's amazing. i can't believe you could do that. >> we thought it was time to put a road test together. >> we're looking at the actual car. this isn't something -- as a matter of fact we have the dirt right here
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to show you. >> exactly. the bugs on the front. >> the bugs are in the grill. >> we had a trained engineer in the driver's seat, which is required by law to make sure if the technology had a problem or we needed to go out of automated mode, it was ready to respond. >> self-driving car somebody behind the wheel just in case. what did you learn along the way? lots of lessons. >> we took a lot of data. twenty sensors on this car. this is a development vehicle. we got 20 sensors. we took data -- all the things you would encounter massive amount of data, threeter bites of data. that will help us make our current products better. (?) >> now, we've had the opportunity to see some of the technology that is already in cars. tell me what else extra was in here. what did you have that helped you make the trip? >> we had six radar sensors. got vision systems already on the road today. a laser system.
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>> what is that? >> laser range finding. >> lasers on the car. what do they do? >> it's finding the distance between you and the bridge and the abutments and the surrounding scenery. you can see one of the radar sensors. >> this you can see. take a look at this. that thing is taking a picture right now. >> you have cameras. a couple of cameras behind the rearview mirror. one camera is looking at stoplight colors. to read speed limit signs. another camera was recording whatever we had going on so we could correlate whatever we were getting with the sensors. >> can i get behind the wheel? >> absolutely. please. >> nice so it looks exactly like a normal car. >> remarkably unremarkable. we tried to take existing architecture, the infrastructure that was already in the vehicle. a couple places we already have cameras. >> they're looking at you to evaluate are you
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in the game, are you paying attention, are you doing what you should do as a driver? we had these cameras up here. these are looking forward. you see the auto button here. that starts the auto process. you can go hands off, feet off the car will do its thing. we put a blue glow up here from an external perspective, everyone will know it's in auto mode. >> if i wanted to stop this thing and take control myself quickly what would i do? >> you hit the wheel or a pedal or that button again. it's easy. >> does it always go the speed limit? >> it will go what it's programmed to go. >> because i don't always want to go the speed limit. >> well we were the only ones doing the speed limit coast-to-coast. that can be frustrating for driver's drivers behind you. >> when do you expect these cars to be on the road in dealerships? >> fully autonomous
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vehicle, 15 years away. >> how much will this car cost when it ultimately comes to market? any idea what the added cost might be? >> no it's pure speculation. we have a lot of regulatory environment to get through. a lot of legal framework. to take the driver out of the seat. you're talking $5,000 plus kind of thing. >> i have to ask a serious question. part of the troubles at gm last year. does a project like this take the spotlight off those ignition switches that were problematic. >> this is equipment that will be not only big business, but it will make a difference in society. it will prevent the accidents before they occur. it will make a meaningful difference in the fatalities in the united states. we tend to think that the car companies have done a great job making cars better and being able to survive crashes. a lot of air bag systems. they've saturated what they can do.
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we have 30,000 fatalities in the united states. if you can give that driver another half second of notice to make sure the car is not distracted, you can cut the statistics in half. significant impact. >> i don't know about you. i prefer to have my hands on the wheel.
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♪ gerri: and finally tonight, i don't know about you but i can barely bring myself to read the stories about christians being hunted down in kenya by islamic terrorist. but the 147 young people killed at the kenyan university not the only ones to died for their faith. christians are being persecuted. beheaded. you wouldn't know about the problem if you only listen to the official statement of this president's administration. it's all scrubbed clean of any messy mentions of religion or creed. you know.
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there's a war on christians. it's worth thinking about this good friday. have a great easter weekend. that's my "2 cents more." and that's it for tonight's willis report. "making money" with charles payne is ne thank you for being here. happy easter. ♪ >> you say you're happy to serve gays in your restaurant as is your dad. but you draw the line at catering a gay wedding. >> it's not a sin that we bring gays into our establishment and to serve them. it is a sin though if we condone -- if we cater their wedding. we feel we're anticipating. we're putting a stamp of approval on their wedding. >> now did she sound crazy to you? to hear these indiana protesters tell it, crystal o'connor is a bigoted bedbug. they wanted to shut her pizza shop down. crystal draws the line at catering a wedding for

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