that's it for us tonight. thank you for joining us good night from new york. see you tomorrow. . neil: as hillary clinton is raising cash, are liberals about to raise hell? welcome, everybody, i'm neil cavuto. and thanks to cheryl casone and david asman and tom sullivan for filling in while i was out. i'm trying to figure out, 2.5 billion dollars. that is how much the clinton cash machine stands to bring in by election day. but not without paying potentially a very heavy price. not with the banking and financial types who apparently have the dough but the liberal types who have little patience for candidates who take that dough. thank god hillary has a bank problem and party's base told them it's them or us taking money from fat cats who will

guarantee you lose. to charlie gasparino, and michael car asa. what do you make of this? >> she has to walk a tightrope. the wall street guys i talked to and canvassing today, what do you think about the 2.5 billion number. they think she can do it. neil: that would have to be a big part of that? >> they have no problem being a part of that. they think whatever she does to the left by starting a class warfare attack which she's shown signs she's going to do it and think she's going to do it and go back to her quote, unquote self to appease elizabeth warren and appease her normal self. i think they're misreading the situation. one of the things the media is obsessed with is how far right, how the far right of the republican controls the party. i don't think that's the case. the far left the democratic

party does control the democratic party, and i think in order for her to be -- to get elected and govern and to stay president she's going to have to be very, very liberal. she's going to be a carbon copy of president obama. president obama hasn't really endorsed her. he said she'd make an excellent candidate. so he thinks elizabeth warren would make an excellent candidate. neil: michael what do you think of this? she has no formidable competition to speak of. eight years ago she didn't seem to have any. how she has to walk the fine line with banks what do you think? >> it's a delicate balance. she has to keep the wall street loyal donors in check while balancing the liberals that she's going to move forward with progressive policy. neil: she doesn't want to appease the liberals too much. in a general election campaign, if she were to get that far, she doesn't want to come across as a left wing kook right?

>> she has to in order to get the support from the liberal side. i think she's going to play it right down the middle and comes down to trust and ethic, if she gets in office what is she going to do next. >> i think that's the game plan, play it down the middle. bash income inequality try not to make the name goldman sachs because her friend runs the place. neil: do they know how the game is played? >> they think this is more rhetorical that in her heart, what her husband was, but i think that one of the things these guys don't get everything right. my point is that the democratic party particularly since obama has been elected has moved farther to the left than the wall street democrats who are mostly centrists realize. the republican party, you do if you're talking about right-wingers, you have the tea partiers, they're not as far right when it come down to

major issues but there are democrats. if you think about what they're for they're for balanced budgets. this isn't the religious right controlling the republican party it's much more of an economic populism. the democratic left is far left. almost socialist. neil: what do you make of that? that does put hillary in this bind here where she didn't have any competition in the foreseeable horizon but she's been known to implode on her own. will this be an issue that implodes her? >> i think there's a couple factors to consider. let's go back to $2.5 billion for a second. i believe with whatever tensions she's going to get on wall street or other places, she's going to raise the money. neil: jeb bush is the biggest guy on the republican side can he raise that too? >> i don't know if he can do that much but has the capability to do so. >> he can raise a lot of money, jeb. one of the things governor

romney was blown away by, there is a lot of tension between jeb bush and romney. he said i'm running. neil: all the money guys glommed on. >> not that they glommed on he glommed onto them. and gave romney a chance to figure it out. neil: so will that power her forward or hurt her? >> i don't think you have to in order to win the election, to be honest with you. hasn't needed that amount in the past. neil: usually the person with the most money wins. >> i think that's going to be true now. >> it depends, though john mccain has almost no money. he had some but was way outspent. neil: i'm talking about going all the way. >> i'm sure obama outspent romney. >> not by much. >> that isn't the reason romney lost. there are a lot of reasons we can attribute to that. >> that was under a billion dollars. we're talking 2.5 billion.

>> here's a converse i heard between democrat that the money might be a problem. raising that much money is going to have an appearance problem. you don't need 2.5 to win, and look like you're just -- you overstate too much. neil: 1.99 billion make it look like you're having a discount campaign. [ laughter ] >> guys thank you both very much. back to the 2.5 billion dollars and where and how it could trip hillary clinton up. very hard for hillary to brand herself a champion of the common man. former virginia attorney general says candidates from both sides should stop pretending to be what they are not. i'm glad you touched on both sides. part of the argument that we're seeing advance as we profile the candidates is they're portraying personalities that are not them. for hillary clinton to say she's with everyday folks and take this scooby doo van across

america first of all, i've known people and scooby doo people are high as a kite, and may be aiming for iowa and end up in texas. why is that bad? what's your fear of any candidate who plays that game? >> you can look at 2012 in a lot of ways one of the reasons romney lost is the president fit the profile of someone who understood the average voter better than mitt romney did. that is not going to be a hillary advantage. she's going to come out there and be like every other common man who felt they were a pauper coming out of the white house. i don't think there are too many of those out there. neil: it's not as if money or having it however you got it, can be a problem. >> right but neil you started off there's an authenticity problem here which is an honesty problem. she'll say it feels like she'll say whatever she thinks she

needs to say however she needs to say it to win, and at the same time. neil: and republicans don't do that too, ken? >> no no no. you see this on both sides, but every republican doesn't do it. i wouldn't say every democrat does it. but hillary does. neil: and the problem is people will say look, you've earned a book fees, speaking fees your husband's wealth is legendary, don't tell us that you feel our pain. >> all combined with -- no they won't connect with that kind of a person. you can add into that and you're getting money behind the scenes you won't tell us about from the foreign powers while you were secretary of state and deleting e-mails. it all piles on much to each other and gets the wall street money. wall street ain't main street? either party and people who rely on it do so with a bit of danger involved. i think it's worse on the left than it is on the right as much as i am not a fan of special

interests. the left is desperately looking to see hillary challenged, and that's exactly what she doesn't want to happen. everything i'm seeing with this sort of rollout of the campaign really is inviting more intensity on the left against her, and more separation from the average american across the spectrum which makes her easier to beat for a republican nominee. neil: the left didn't like very rich people, then? >> they definitely don't like very rich people. but it's one thing to be rich person, it's another thing to act like you're not. back to your initial point, neil. >> very good point. >> it's insincere and dishonest. neil: i always think candidates to say the person can you belly up to at the bar. if i find my president in a bar, i'm going to be worried. that's just me. ken, thank you very much. good seeing you again. >> good to see you, neil. neil: is hillary already

stumbling? why i'm not voting for hillary trending topics on twitter. after she announced her candidacy on twitter! former democratic congressman dennis kucinich says low key launch is backfiring here. congressman always good to see you. what do you make of this and the backlash. when you have her poll numbers within the party, it's easy to look like you're unstoppable, and easy to depoke that. you say there is something more potentially going on? >> well first of all, i think we have to credit secretary clinton with a very good commercial in the launch. i watched it carefully, neil in that two minutes she spoke for 30 seconds, which makes it one of the briefest presidential announcements in u.s. history. neil: good point. >> and there are special effects music in the background and portrayed an america that is very pretty and

an america we all want to see, and an america which doesn't exist en masse. and i think that if that's the america we're all looking forward to, everybody wants it. on the other hand very few people have access to it and the real issue is the disparities of wealth the fact that america is going to war all over the world and she's approved of it generally. and we're on the threshold of an opportunity to create a whole new country. a whole new civilization. i want to know how that's going to happen if america is for sale? neil: one of the things you were consistent in in your own presidential run and congressional career, people agree or disagree, no one would disagree with passion or enthusiasm or consistency. you were not a weather vane, but the fear that a lot of liberals have of hillary clinton is she is. i don't know if that is accuratior not. many on the left said we are a party that stands with all of these things, and with all of

the bank money and the clinton initiative projects we're not convinced you are with us on that. is that a serious problem for her right now? >> i'll tell you what's a serious problem. we need to stop the country stop the intervention, stop the war profiteering. neil: she won't do that. >> look, i'm in california right now. there's a water shortage here. we've got water shortages all around the country. we need to be conserving water conserving our land. new practices in agriculture. we need a whole discussion about re-creating america, and if you have interests pouring 2.5 billion dollars into, it that's going to smother. neil: what do you make of that figure, dennis? i couldn't believe it when i heard it, and heard the 2 billion they were estimating if jeb bush were to make it all the way. that would be a 4.5 5 billion

dollars presidential election. >> we are at an auction and the policies are going to the highest bidder. worried about jobs, health care, retirement security their investment you think any of them are going to have a way to get a word in edgewise in a presidential campaign, where this is this money bearing the electorate. it's not going to cause debate it's going to stop debate. that's the problem here. neil: sometimes a candidate emerges who wasn't bought and paid for or rises up despite the money. last time it happened was abraham abraham lincoln. thank you very much. dennis kucinich. the question of the ages boxers or briefs or which godfather movie is the best? i will answer all of your questions at the end of the

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. neil: get a load of this. marco rubio just jumping in and tax plan on the outs? the new presidential hopeful planned to simplify our tax code generating heat from the left and the right. something i brought up with him not too long ago. you know what you're going to hear from the critics he's friends of the super rich he gets all his income from the capital gains, et cetera. the people who accuse me of that are millionaires and lecturing me on the plight of the middle class. americans need better paying jobs and tax code is impediment

for that. neil: i think if you are for rubio or not, for tax reform or not. do you notice the trend here? anyone who comes forward with an idea to simplify the most complicated tax code on the planet are crucified. former governor wondering the same thing. is that the same reaction? it's just about the fat cats or the rich get off and the poor pay? how do we ever get past this nonsense? >> well neil i give credit to senator rubio for trying something slightly different. the understandable and predictable proposal from republican candidates is look lower rates and clear out unspecified exemptions, credits and deductions and have a lower flatter simpler tax code that will be pro-growth and pro investment and everything will get better. some go further and say let's have a flat tax. script for republican candidates for two decades.

marco says i'm for rates lowering two rates but i'm going to give relief targeted relief to modest and low-income families with children, and he's getting criticized by some of our republicans, my republican friends for not being the traditional script. i give him credit for trying something different. is it ideal? no neither is the current tax code certainly better than what we have now. neil: everyone hates our present tax system. even those who don't pay taxes. i'm wondering what is the harm for finding a simpler way about it. he keeps a high rate of believe at 2.8%. critics say if he keeps some of their deductions and investment credits they're paying a sharply lower rate than that. so getting away with murder. you say what? >> one of the main criticisms of his proposal is he's creating another exemption or in this case credit, and it's going to add one more thing,

one more complication to the tax code. okay we can concede that intellectualy we want it to be simpler, not more complicated. if you believe for now we're going to have some credits exemptions or deductions what's more important than trying to get relief to poor children? i don't think that's would be the worst thing on the list, it should be high on the list. >> the problem is the messenger with the message and whether the messenger is able to cut through all of this and express the need for getting this fixed once and for all. is he that messenger? >> i think he's got a lot of upside as a candidate. he's low in the polls right now, but i think he's the most gifted communicator and campaigner in the field. he also has high bred appeal across the republican party. think national defense social conservatives economic conservatives tea party types. he may not be anyone's or not

many people's number one at the moment but a lot of people's number two and three and acceptable alternative. if one of the punitive early front-runner's stumble, marco has a lot of upside in the face. neil: biggest obstacle is in his home state jeb bush, right? >> it is. look what he brings to the table. compelling life story. he can tell, it like the critics in music, they can say this artist didn't just write this song it's clear he or she lived it. difference between living the song between fantasy and conjecture and having lived the lyrics. in marco's case he's lived these lyrics and that's why i think he can sing them so beautifully. neil: i like that. governor, thanks so much. >> you're welcome. neil: instead of pushing for the rich to pay more to uncle sam. how about focus on the people getting rich by uncle sam. the numbers the white house

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>> neil: already way beyond tax is the president pushes higher taxes on the rich to have not paid their fair share in hillary clinton pushes the same for a deck that is stacked in favor of those at the top. so the solution is touse screw those at the top as the top rate were not enough with health care related medicare to squeeze even more that is what makes it make you a target? i don't care if you are of the left door there rights keeping in mind the top 20%

of earners pay 84 percent in the bottom 20% is paid with tax credits. how much does this take you off never so much as where to save money but the problem is already coming into washington but the money coming out that spending that is out of control they would not even pay for it also the baby looked at the wrong villain. but the politicians to give them the bill. when next guest says the rich paid more than they're fair share. not even close? >> it is the middle-class the upper class has set wages.

now the increased the taxes on the wealthy. neil: look. we have bar charts. bottom-line use aid the rich that paid more and more. >> as they should if you make $10 an hour it you have to pay that $10 but can they survive? they are not increasing salaries. >> the liberal way to close the gap is stick it to the rich? >> if we talk about people making $10 an hour not able to survive the reason is high tax rates. and the more money you have for a salary.

but define middle class as 134,000 for a family living in washington d.c. or new york city. that is middle-class and i would argue lower middle-class. the administration has a hard time to define what is middle-class. neil: they failed to make that point. is there they don't want to share or they don't know the math. >> republicans have to make the point is it unfair to the people who make the intercom to pay the government? when is it unfair to them when they pay 80 percent and we have gotten far beyond that point. neil: even if you took them atop to keep all of that is what do you?

>> to evelyn go to those entitlements. neil: let's get the baby boom generation because there is no money to pay so we either drop them or charge the rich more. >> the rich is getting off for free. neil: but i pay helluva lot of taxes is pivotal think the person making 300,000 should pay the same rate as making the 10 million per year. that is not fair. >> that is a problem when

you don't pay enough in taxes is to have to pay your fair share. >> what is enough? eighty%? >> the rich are paying 90 percent. it was not seven people but how do you answer this? list comes back that republicans are interested to disproportionately benefit the rich how should they respond? >> with history that shows of the federal government cuts tax rates for everybody they increase revenue that means there is more revenue available. neil: so way you raise that top rate you have a boom so what? with the investment tax?

>> it comes at this same time as the economic increase but we're not in the same situation as the bill clinton years and it comes down to win the business owners the so-called rich are given a tax cut more money is circulated into the economy for jobs and it is more fair because 80 percent of the taxes are not paid. >> he was to increase the death tax. >> the middle-class tax cuts are at the crooks. >> and half the people though paid taxes? what are the numbers? denied 54%. >> who are the one digit 50 million americans? >> who cares? >> tax policy is incredibly

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>> no one is dying. we have a lot of programs not just food stamps but there are state programs and local programs and there is also a wic we do have the obesity epidemic but not people dying. the food stamp program is amazing and does what it is supposed to do. neil: 50 million people swear by it. >> i don't understand her point. i can tell you right now they kept us alive the programs were not as good as they are now with how much you got but there was unshaven factor if i went to the store i to see you committee will not see me play with the food stamp. neil: now which is easy you have a card.

but my whole beef with all of this a think they make the entire welfare system to the point it is often -- tough to get off with the minimum wage job but i don't get it. and she sells these things that cause so much money. maybe four or five items that until she tries to assuage her guilt? >>. >> even to cut it down. >> first people need to

understand the history they caving into colors. or in japan and the blue book you had certain stamps could only buy food other shoe to buy whatever. it was temporary and there is something to the 80th you should not be able to buy a pair of sneakers with the food stamps or items that will not help you change your life. >> but the hardest part if they don't have the impetus to get off. with steve jobs or kid said don't know how to get off to another about the free market because they never had to because there is an entitlement package.

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issues of sexual assault now they try to do this is where it might work day private in canada. the kiosk has so little straw you take out distraught to plug didn't then a new blow into it to get proper the breathalyzer. neil: then a car comes automatically? >> not automatically if you are beyond the legal limit you can choose to order. neil: what if you were too drunk to pay? >> but you don't do this through your phone. but you probably already have to be signed up but they will make that easy. neil: remember this the 3-d printer to let you design your own packet?

with over $460,000 was raised on kickstarter you say the future is your? have zero the heck you design a 3-d pancake? >> is more like gave many factory. day printed as a dispenses material to make a sculpture so to make that case for kickstarter i think it'd school i bought into that cuteness to get into science and technology but it will cost $300 so that is not cheap. neil: what is that? meanwhile 1 million

estimated apple watches that analysts' are the latest to downgrade. >> but that overall quality to say we look at the reviews of the watch the was exactly the chelicera they have never seen so they will downgrade the stock. it plays on their reaction because if you remember think about the accad it was revolutionary sort of. when it comes with innovation is the other versions down the line. >> but that compelling point but this leaves a lot of people wondering.

>> receives that the small-business is intimidating but i have played with a number of times. >> i tried both of them on. i already where a pretty big watch. neil: they put the actual i don't want your best? >> but thinking seriously is that 1 million figure or 2 million only apple could have such a high bar. ceramic jpmorgan is expecting them to sell 20 million units. there is a lot of expectation with the holiday season but i have the feeling the changes will be compelling and very quick to be integrated into their

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neil: just going after reviews on amazon with product reviews and exchange for cash if that is in day dead giveaway attorney says you could get in big trouble posting fake reviews but one attorney says there is nothing illegal about it. >> amazon is trying to put them out of business. selig refused or selling that service is nothing illegal about that but it's these companies have commented with legitimate high quality reviews of the product. to review the product but amazon has been dealing with this all along. >> i don't think it is much

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shirt but no -- [ laughter ]. you knew this was coming. no sweat pants. i want you to picture that, america. as i tell you. good night america. . >> a century old amusement park that could be lost forever. >> dying on the vine down here. >> our time is over. it's serious. >> a divided family on the verge of a painful split. >> no amusement park in the world has been owned by a family as long as this one. >> the family loyalty has disintegrated. it's fodder for disaster. >> and a reprieve from the governor, but will it be enough? >> the day after labor day amusement park is not open down there. my father is flipping in his grave right now.