is lifting up. america better than expected earnings of 5%. that will do for "the opening bell". see you in new york on thursday. time for "varney and company". here is charles payne in for stuart varney. charles: stuart varney will be back tomorrow but your big story today, baltimore. today the cleanup baltimore smolders after a night of violence. the national guard has been deployed. there are a lot of questions including where police freed perry did city leaders put them in a situation to fail? we have this video going viral. the woman i am calling mom of the year knocking some sense into her son. the mayor of baltimore under fire for how he handled bolting, did she allow the destruction of her own city with what she said over the weekend? we are waiting to hear from president obama nothing yet commenting on a situation like this in the past they have not helped. as for your money there is no way we can ignore apple. juggernaut.

stock in new high, the new date for your money and your country. "varney and company" is about to begin. charles: check out the big board. dow off 17 points. pressure happens to be on the nasdaq. lots of earnings and we will get the refund the economy tomorrow. the dow off 14 points. apple without a doubt the stock of the day is up four five points earlier. these guys sold 61 million iphones in the last quarter working out to 5 million iphones. china sales exploding little little cash, $200 billion on hand. those shares sell on the news kind of philosophy. whirlpool is a different story those hurt fell short of expectations. the company lowered its 2015 outlook can you conceive stock is down almost 9%.

national average for the price of a gallon of regular gas up another penny, $2.54 for an average regular gallon. we have new images out of baltimore, police with guns drawn waiting to break things up. blake give us an outlook on the situation. >> the same situation you are talking about in east baltimore it happened there earlier this morning at the 9:00 hour. there is video of these -- a handful of men going into a store and after that the video you showed, police officers going in as well. right now i am at baltimore city hall and where we are there is the national guard surrounding city hall. the national guard, at the maryland national guard they are ready for thousands to deploy to this kerri at as well. we have been walking around this area in downtown baltimore. i want to give you a quick story

block or so that way because so many people have been told not to come into this area, businesses closed, employees told to work at home. we were curious how that affects the restaurateur, businesses that are open here, one restaurant and takeout tight police. at that point they normally have a hundred customers. they said this morning about 35 to 50 and they would be closing early. certainly had an impact on many parts of the community here in baltimore. charles: you are the economic impact hard to quantify but it has not ripple. as the cleanup begins so do the questions. why did the police seem so powerless to prevent or even stop the violence? let's bring in bo dietl nypd detective. were they not prepared? or they had their hands tied ended didn't matter? >> first of all i don't believe

they were unprepared. i believe what happened on saturday was the prelude by the baseball field when they were looting, starting off, they should have realized. the other side of the colon is watching those cops being pelted with boulders there's no police department in the world that would stand past like that. they will find out stand down, don't make an arrest, i can't use the language i want to you how can that mayor said the curfew will come tomorrow night? the governor in the afternoon speaking why didn't he bring the national guard troops out? we knew it was getting dark we mentioned it on this show. this was the opportunity. with the gang violence is one thing. when they are and gained -- when they are alone and separated you break up right away.

you have teargassed put in they would have dispersed and you are chasing them grab a couple, law and let the word go out that the cops are locking people up but as the word went out that cops not elect you go to the shopping mall, you are going to be able to because you won't get locked up. charles: the inaction or the stand down border that wasorder that was given emboldened the crowd. >> these kids can't afford lunch but they all got cellphones. they are texting each other cops are not doing anything, they can -- a won't locked us up. now you have cops. those kids i showed you look like high school kids, between 14, 17 and they did live in that neighborhood. the word went out they are not

going to get locked up. what is happening right now is all those videos should be putting a word out you want to surrender? your going to get locked up for rioting and it is a felony when you are escalating to rioting and that is what they should be doing. charles: this comes back to the baltimore a lot of high water the way she handled this situation. take a listen to this. >> we tried to make sure they were protected from the cars and other things that were going on. we also gave those who wish to destroy space to do that as well. >> the very blatant mischaracterization of my words was not helpful today. is very unfortunate that members of your industry decided to mischaracterized my words and try to use it as a way to say we are inciting violence. there is no such thing.

charles: your reaction? >> my words should not be twisted. charles: all right. >> i speak english. i just heard what she said. now she wants to blame the news media. she would have been better off saying i miss spoke i am sorry and i am sorry to all the people that live in baltimore that put their life savings to build businesses and now they are destroyed. they should have a lawsuit against her for not having the cops do their job because they didn't do their job. how you can let people. set fire beat people up, robs them very angry. ashley: she said what she said. she said she was misinterpreted. to me it was very clear. emboldened the rioters, no doubt. you mentioned by didn't the governor get the national guard in? he can't. he has to wait for invitation from the mayor.

"imus in the morning" >> unless he makes a decision from the governor and i make a decision that she is not properly treating fat and you oversee and my guy, president obama, wouldn't you think he has come on tv when we had the incident in florida, he came on tv with ferguson why didn't the president come out last night and say parents go get your kids bring some back home? we can't have this in our country. charles: i got to tell you the president's lack of response through this is a continuation of poor mismanagement. we talk about emboldening the situation, he has made all the lot worse than they had to be. we have to leave it there. you brought up a great question. later on we last judge andrew napolitano to weigh in. can a city or the mayor be held financially liable for a comment she made a lot of people feel incited the riots gave the green light to riot and people who did this on social media can

they be charged? the judge will join us at 11:30 eastern. now to the one and i am calling mom of the year. she saw her son throwing rocks at police during the riots and delivered the smacked out of a lifetime. watch this.down of a lifetime. watch this. charles: a ton lashing a smack down. charles: leave me alone. she has the he wrote not only around this country but this video has gone viral around the world. look at the british newspapers. others in europe and australia saying we need more of this with parents taking responsibility taking it to their kid and saying this is not acceptable. however now there's a growing

backlash, how long before protective services turns up to is a wait a minute. charles: tell you what is going to happen. that woman you see how big the kid is. i grew up in the hood. in 1977 we had the riots. my mother did not let us go out. for me not to go out and loot was painful. people were breaking time. will watch machines and -- the kid gets western age. and it is a physically intimidating that this won't work. >> getting a souvenir. and frankfurt, you were walking through frankfurt. charles: all right. president obama is going to hold a joint news conference with the prime minister of japan. we will take you there live. and possibly face questions

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charles: and iranian naval ships fired shots at a container ship flying the flag of the marshall islands. this happened early this morning in the persian gulf. the ship is being escorted to waters off the coast of iran.

u.s. navy destroyer is in the area heading around as well and we will keep you updated on this as it materializes. shares of apple apple's stock is down a little bit fractionally. basil 62 million iphones, matchable's editor at large is with us. apple is an amazing juggernaut wall street plays an interesting game. this has got to be the best it can be. we were playing this game with apple for long time. they see it and destroy. >> i wouldn't underestimate apple. we knew this quarter would be flat on iphone sales compared to last quarter which is blockbuster 74 million sold and they sold 60 million but if you look at the last same quarter last year 43 million. h huge job, a huge vote of

confidence. they have some areas of weakness which is in the ipad area when you look at this because it continues to be flat, and except in japan, who knew? for apple to beget going on the business angle. it is cammed for business. charles: somewhat cannibalization. and is hard to distinguish it. >> tim cook put this on both sides for the larger iphones and the smaller laptops. just came out with the new mac book which was one of the smallest and lightest ever made and that contract a lot of people. if only my ipad at a keyboard.

the ipad will come back, and it is the back of business. >> at reaction to the block. and it is watches something of a big win for them that was that much demand for it. >> it is the first biggest for apple and a long time. the product, we reviewed it and it is the best smart watch i have seen to date and what you are seeing is once again out the door trying to buy it. and if there isn't enough,

charles: yesterday they said they were going to accept it, it is hard to underestimate what it means for the company. >> that little bit on each payment is so important and this is becoming another juggernaut for apple where people are falling in line. best buy is falling in line. they are holding out right now. discover the into line. people are seeing with the apple watch you can pay with an apple watch without carrying your phone so more reason for people to say let's be ready for this. charles: a little bit to baltimore, there were calls on social media. eweeentoutestrday tha rerene t corag whh -- te movi wheher wsn ay o ancatioed narchy and it started with the students who then took their

marching orders from social me and the whole thing blossomed into what we saw in baltimore. is not the first time social media played this kind of role in domestic civil unrest. there are pros and cons but this is a tough one. zing an out and letting people know something is happening on those 3. i am concerned about this story because to me it sounds apocryphal. there is this movie that has little relation to what happened on the ground. in order to prove somebody has to prove that at tweet or a bit of social media started this you have to do some real digging here. it was tweeted or place at the time, add the date, at the place before this happened and enough people sought it. ashley: there were also players on telegraph poles. charles: in this day and age

when we talk about things going viral it is not unusual, or necessarily a major beat of the imagination that this one particular tweet could have gone to one source and multiplied quickly. >> it is possible but the flyers can be more effective in real time. no matter what. is a superunfortunate situation. ashley: the egyptian revolution through social me as well worked both ways that is powerful. charles: maybe the authorities will find a way, the police had acted on this, maybe they would have had a better response too. it could work both ways. >> you saw that organization come together quickly on both sides which was shocking so this may have been the catalyst. charles: good stuff really appreciate it.

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climbing to 4400 including 4 american. the irs says it cannot answer your phone calls because it doesn't have enough money. look at how the agency spends millions. $50 million on conferences $60 million in bonus checks, $24 million for union activities and the washington examiner also reports the irs gets to spend half a billion dollars in user fees every single year as it wishes. and tyson foods cutting human antibiotics and chicken feed by september of 2017. antibiotics used to me to drug-resistant germs in humans. tyson is a key chicken supplier to mcdonald's with him and antibiotics. it is up a quarter for tyson foods. charles: i tell you what everyone says it is the right thing to do. >> so many companies have a goal but they haven't done it already the goal is to do it in the next couple years, restaurants and meat producers. charles: no more antibiotics we

will see what happens. we do have an amazing -- judge andrew napolitano coming down one thing that is perfect for him who can be held accountable for the damage in baltimore? it is absolutely amazing. a lot of people are pointing to this one, the city's mayor for saying things like this. >> we also gave those who wished to destroy space to do that as well.

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charles: following a breaking story out of the recursion golf. and iranian naval ship fired shots at a container ship from the marshall islands. this happened earlier this morning. the iranians are escorting the shipping to waters off the coast of iran. the u.s. naval destroyers in the area heading on route. they launched a helicopter from the shed to get a closer look and we will keep you updated as this unfolds. let's check the big board, the dow hanging in 29 points, a

quiet day. let's go to baltimore city hall you actually spoke to someone who was taking the day off to clean up this day. >> hi charles. there are cleanup efforts underway throughout baltimore. that cvs we were walking across the country were watching yesterday that was looted throughout the day. we continue there are cleanup efforts under way there and also at other scenes around in his city of baltimore. it helps that this is an absolutely gorgeous day, but students are home because public schools are closed, many parents are home because employers have told workers to stay at home and to work at home but there was also the sense of those who live here. at least with one person we spoke with, this is their city and this is not how they wanted to be viewed and not how they want it to be seen. we spoke to one resident who took off a day of work and he

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hot water over comments she made this past saturday. listen to this. >> we tried to make sure they were protected from the cars and other things that were going on. wheat wished to give those who wish to destroy space to that as well. charles: judge andrew napolitano is here. the city allowed the purposeful destruction of the city. does that make reliable for this destruction? judge napolitano: the language she used is very unusual. i don't know what appropriate interpretation she could give to that language. xrt about 12 seconds there but for her to say under any circumstances other than in the hypothetical and a classroom we are going to give you time to destroy, the question is does

that encourage the destruction? could she or the city be held liable? the answer is probably not

to keep us safe? the court would say you don't like the mayor of the her out of office. charles: she might have made these comments to stay in office. felt like she was trying to cause committee gave the responsibility to the people committing these -- judge napolitano: it seemed like i was on all night but it wasn't all night with megyn kelly and shepherd smith last night and as we were watching the police stand there and do nothing we were going what is going on? they are breaking into a liquor store drinking foods, throwing them in the streets, lighting it on fire throwing the fire ball back into the liquor store and the cops are like this. i am thinking is she restraining the police because she wants kosovo of these funds in the street? i don't understand the mentality of whoever was in charge. this morning they say we lacked the manpower we were concerned about their safety. it just gave an awful impression the more the police were there like that it was almost a

manifestation of what she said destroy our property one, we won't her given beings and we won't getting your face. that is not what police are supposed to do. you keep taxes to keep these funds off the street have your properly protected. charles: she comes from the same political vein as president obama where she sees the looters as sort of the victims and this is a way maybe of not necessarily retribution but to block off steam and they should not be punished for being put into a position where they were forced to do something like this. judge napolitano: a liquor store gets broken into the inventory is destroyed, the business is gone for a couple weeks until they can clean up who pays? probably their insurance carrier unless what we saw last night is characterized as an insurrection in which case there is an exception in the insurance policy. >> would characterize it that way? >> they would decline coverage and the owner of the business would sue and the judge would take evidence that there are a

bunch of crazies in the streets or was this an insurrection? charles: extraordinarily compelling, the events across the country become more and more organized. anarchy has spread through this country to teach people how to have these sort of protests violence rioting and looting in such a way that puts the police that a disadvantage and some are saying there was a particular tweet that sparked this, that got caught ball rolling. if proven this week in cited this was the match could a person who sent that we'd be liable? judge napolitano: here's the law and it is enormously complex but the bottom line is every conceivable benefit must be given to the lawful interpretation of speech. we are so wedded to the freedom of speech. charles: talk about we are going to purge referenced in the movie the purge where lawlessness allow for a 24-hour period, if we are going to purge we are going to tear the city

down all regard to laws. judge napolitano: they are using youthful window that requires an explanation. the law says this. if you encourage people to engage in wallace violent behavior and there is time to resist your speech your speech is protected. if you encourage people to engage in lawless violent behavior and there is no time to resist your speech and they follow your command then you can be liable for your speech. charles: there could be something here. the suite when doubt and the actions began and it was the proverbial snowball into a boulder without any kind of hesitation. judge napolitano: if the court can exclude all possible law interpretations from that speech but the command to do lawless violent action and there is evidence that it took place the speech can be prosecuted. a very narrow area would prohibit the prosecution of public speech. charles: president obama told a

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charles: i have been a harsh critic of president obama but i believe he has completely missed handled this whole thing particularly on the racial side and it is sort of like you have got to admonish people period, particularly when they look like you and are doing something wrong. you can't always make them the victims. the looters can't always be the victims or always be justified. you can't do that and unfortunately that has been the narrative. that was my take on president obama's handling of the baltimore lives with the president holding a news conference in the next hour and we are expecting him to address the situation in baltimore. let's bring in former d.c. homicide detective rod wheeler who was in the affect of that last night in baltimore. i am glad you are okay.

that was amazing stuff that you did last night, very heroic. i want to ask about the day because the president is going to speak. what would you like to hear from him? >> i don't want to hear much from president obama at this point. i will tell you why. i think the time for the president to have spoken would have been two or three days ago. same thing with the mayor of baltimore two three days ago. when you live through what i lived through, which you personally heard me live for yesterday evening on the streets of baltimore what can the president possibly say? it was complete chaos. business is being looted, there were gunshots made. it was horrific. i don't know what the president could say today. charles: people who love him love the fact that he leads from behind. they call him no drama obama but there are times with a sense of urgency and last night over the weekend was one. i do worry when he finally does

weigh in, it will be these words, nebulous and ultimately it won't hit hard enough at fees people who went out there and looted and burned and destroyed other people's property. >> bottom line is this. the people out there in the streets yesterday burning and looting and rioting, these are the same people that were dancing in the streets when president obama was elected. it is what it is. now they are not dancing in the streets but dying in the streets. obviously whatever is they were promised didn't happen. they don't have jobs. they don't have a good education and they are really law less. that is what it is and that is what we have in baltimore today. a lawless community a hopeless people, hope and change didn't happen as you well know. there is no hope. that is why we see these young people out there doing whatever comes to mind.

charles: mayor stephanie rollins, come from the same cloth. that would explain her crazy green lighting of this sort of stuff on saturday. do you think someone could get elected in that community if they were to go and say you are messing up -- is on you, you got to take control of your life, has nothing to do with anyone who is a different color or lives in a different county. you have to take control of your life. the things that person could get elected? >> they possibly could buy up person that is communicating that message to these people need to show these people you came up from your bootstraps as well please even if you or i were to go to that community and tell these people you can make a change you can do better, neither one of us came from backgrounds where we were born with a silver spoon in our mouth. in my community in my community where i came from east cleveland, ohio, is similar to baltimore and i have been relatively successful and i do think if they have the right

message and they see the right image of an individual's that may be able to turn them around. charles: thank you very very much really appreciate it. are you going to be out there tonight too? >> i will be out there later tonight. charles: we will check in on you. be safe, thanks a lot. stain got baltimore and the impact on business ashley webster is here. we talk about baltimore not being the city it was in 1968 before the riots and we have seen what damage has been done to other cities. it is hard to quantify. ashley: some interesting research and we dug into this little bit. in 1992 los angeles riots for example in the ten years following that it is estimated the city lost nearly $4 billion in taxable sales would same story in london after the london riots in 2011 a big drop-off in sales. they say the impact of the looting, the rioting the civil unrest is greater than that of a

hurricane. the community in miami recovered from hurricane andrew a lot quicker than it could from the riots. that gives you a sense it is hard to quantify. businesses thinking of locating there, they will think twice and businesses shutting down. it has a huge impact. charles: after hurricane versus the replacement cost. you just think twice before you rebuild a small -- ashley: local businesses can be put out of business. charles: a reminder in a few minutes at the top of the hour president obama has a joint news conference with japan's prime minister. we will take you there live when it happens. a quick stop the lead, good news for america on their diabetes drug. the main goal for the hard safety, those shares are having a huge day up 5%. up next, more on social media's role in the baltimore riots how one tweet could spark a night of destruction after the break. do business by leading the way on tax cuts. we cut the rates on personal income taxes.

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ship, they want to get a closer look. baltimore, cheryl casone is here talking about the role of social media. has been on fire. cheryl: a couple scenes on social media let's talk about the ceo of the baltimore orioles. news breaking in baltimore, to explain what is going on in my opinion. here is what he said and where the debate on social media kicked in. capacity for decade period when an american political allegiance middle-class and working jobs away from baltimore and cities and towns around the u.s. into dictatorships like china. he is blaming globalization for what is happening in baltimore. is the right or wrong? he is getting pretty beat up on twitter. that is the first thing i was following. the media is another trend in topic on twitter.

michele malkin send out, i put this week, here's what she said, this will double. all shots in place to show baltimore. of course the responses to this, still has a show or that is the network that for some reason decides to make the story their story. charles: the of mayor blamed her comments on the media's misinterpretation. the green light exist of and people should be allowed to destroy l.a. or she blamed the media. that is all knee-jerk. the messenger. cheryl: a lot of people are following their was a photographer that was beat up last night. there was also as we know a local news reports in surgery today. also a lot of references to facebook, twitter and instagram. a lot of people are taking pictures of martin luther king jr. from the protest back in the day saying that was a protest.

this is a riot. seeing a lot of that on twitter and got to talk about the imam. hash tag mom of the year. people are still at this hour obsessed with this woman on social media. the imam of the year talking about the fact she really let her kids have it. one facebook response i want to show you that made me laugh from susie on facebook, look what susie wrote why can't you just let me burn some cars and destroy some family businesses and pay back my friends? it is a horrible situation in baltimore but this is their world in which we live and it becomes a conversation and a dialogue we all have. charles: the social media, actually sparked this and when you fan the flames through social media so is everything is in that one box. i tweeted that out last night and the tweets haven't stopped with the imam of the year.

cheryl: the measure of baltimore's the trending topic on facebook and twitter in particular. so many people want her to resign. she has gone a lot of backlash, this is social media viewers saying she botched it. charles: mayor ray nagin right now. we are moments away from hearing the president obama, we expect him to make some kind of statement on the situation in baltimore. we will also hear from some voices from baltimore, baltimore community. one of those right on the ground right now we have a fresh hour of "varney and company" two minutes away.

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and company starts right now. ♪ ♪ >> all right we're going this is the governor of maryland. >> operation center at camp frederick a we've been reaching to the community all morning. we've met with volunteers met with community leaders we just came from a cabinet meeting here. we just came from a meeting some of the faith leaders and community leaders throughout the city. we wanted to do some listening. we wanted to talk to them about their concernings. we wanted to see what kinds of needs they have and how we could address those needs as quickly as possible. discussion primarily focus on needs of immediate needs in the city back under control. making the city safe protecting our innocent citizens the property. we also talked about longer term

issues and might be the start of an ongoing dialogue with community leaders to see what we can do to address longer term issues and problems. the vast majority of the people in baltimore who were protesting did so in a peaceful way. yesterday, unfortunately, a smaller group of people acted out in a violent way. we see this as two entirely different groups. criminal activity will not be tolerated. we're going to ensure we're going to bring whatever resources are necessary whatever assets are necessary as much manpower is necessary to let the citizens of baltimore know that their neighborhoods are going to be safe. that they're not going to be in danger and that their property welcome protected . we're not going to have another repeat of what happened last night that is not going to happen tonight. i want to thank the faith

leaders for their involvement. all throughout this, they've been preaching, they've been saying that violence isn't helping the situation. the people who have legitimate concerns and frustrations about the ongoing investigation with respect to what happened to freddie gray are not served well by the violent acts, and this violence is not accomplishing anything counterproductive. we're going to make sure that we get baltimore become on track and make sure our neighborhoods are safe again. happy to answer any questions that you might ask. >> explain to folks how a state of emergency work when is your state of emergency declaration was prepared and what happened in the next 48 hours? do you have to wait for mayor to act? >> we're going to continue to monitor this again remember that is again mayor of maryland

governor of maryland larry hogan thanking faith leaders shift gears a little bit and go to peter barnes who is in washington, d.c. peter. >> hey, charles, we are expect the.to comment on the situates in baltimore if he doesn't address this right off of the top you can be assured that reporters who are at the press conference with the president and the prime minister of japan will ask him probably about it first question from the american side. charles. >> peter barnes thank you so much. president obama with a joint press conference with the prime minister of japan. we're going to -- this a lot of moving parts here, horrific scene last night. larry hogan by the way republican governor, there's some questions as to his had actions or inactions and whether he had to wait for mayor and national guard was called out late filling in hope now that we don't get a repeat of last night. >> interesting there's a serious

debate about why body cameras are not used and police are not wearing body cameras in baltimore, and you know, it turns out that mayor has been in a serious debate apparently reportedly she doesn't want the city council to have such power over the police force and dictating whether or not the city council is beginning to decide who wears body cameras but they would have help it had to see what happened during the mysterious 45 minute when is freddie gray was in police custody. >> i want to go to jay, an attorney in baltimore involved in some of the cases that are at the center of all of this anger jay, thanks for coming on and spending some time with us. can you give us a sense now of where baltimore is with respect to simmering down a little bit. do you think calmer has prevailed a little bit? >> calmer has prevailed but baltimore is in a lot of pain. this thing just didn't happen in one day. we're talking about decades and decades of marginalization of

neglect of being ignored and silence so people are finally getting the opportunity to be able to express themselves i'm so happy that governor is able to look beyond the violence to hear voices of those who are crying out for help. our mayor has focused her attention a lot on the inner harbor of baltimore but it consistents of much broader community than just the downtown in the harbor. outside of the inner harbor you have communities that are -- dilapidated those needs to be addressed. >> couple of things that you said -- jump in here you're saying that by -- destroying, lewding setting fires, that is the way that the victims in your mind of baltimore is neglect should express themselves do you think that actually will make things better or worse for them? >> well, i don't think it is going to make things better or o worse. but i know that dr. martin luther king said that riots is the --

>> never see him throw a molotov cocktail this is what i don't get. >> you're talking about molotov cocktail. riots -- riots are the voice of those -- accident peaceful protest is different than what we've saw last night. >> whether you have peace -- so glad that you're able to hear the peacefulness in the protest but no one is really talking about the six police officers that killed freddie gray. no one is talking about the police officers that killed anthony anderson. tyrone west shot through the inside of this -- through the inside of this squad car. through the inside of this squad car, nobody is talking about that. if these officers had been indicted if justice was served, you wouldn't see people going out here doing the things that they're doing today. >> now -- now the actions you feel -- >> fall back on the government? >> do you feel because of actions now that justice has been served and that the polite is gone that all of the economic issues now are somehow, you know, does this help does this help the snitches situation do

you think it comes to the neighborhood to describe, do you think -- coming to neighborhoods that you described after these type of actions -- do you think that investment has been in these neighborhoods investment, in fact, the government has investment was brought if they were brought to those neighborhoods you wouldn't see this type of activity. you wouldn't see people raising up and trying to derail the machine that has and advantage of them for so long a time. >> in terms of investment these properties are insured they have insurance. >> so you are telling me that is okay to burn someone's property because it is insured are you serious? >> you're saying it is okay what i'm telling you is that there's a remedy for damage that has been caused. >> the -- [inaudible] >> to it salon. you don't know how much insurance they have. you're telling me it is okay to burn it down. >> if you operate a business in state of maryland you should have insurance. >> you've got insurance --

in the same people that burn to the ground saying give me some money. >> people who want to stay in this community they can stay in this community. but at the same time the problems and issues of these communities have to be address. >> let's talk about this mall okay inside this mall you've got a ashley stuart a children's place clearance, forever 21 a game stop, h&r block payless shoes are you serious that you think these sort of businesses that went into this mall was built against a lot of opposition, people warn developers don'ts build it. they did it anyway. do you think these kind of businesses what return should they return to face this kind of violence? >> i'll tell you about that mall since i'm here in baltimore city that mall generates more cash for those businesses that are there than any other mall in the state. they're not there because they're of charity they're there because they're making money they can go on as business as usual. yeah it is going to be some

setback cost of doing business in the situation like this when the community has been ignored by those policymakers who can do something about it. but bottom line is that mall generate mrs. cash than any other mall perhaps in the entire city of baltimore. so yes if they want to stay in that business, they'll return. >> we're about a minute away from president obama speaking, what would you like to have -- [inaudible] >> president obama -- yeah. >> i want president obama to address the pain of community by those out there expressing themselves in misguided way but also those who have suffered the most. i want him to address the police brutality that is not only taken place in this community. but all over the country. the same for something that is taboo nobody wants to address but these are the reasons why we're having this type of unrest and uprise in cities such as baltimore and new york, and st. louis. and these issues are urgent. they're one of the most urge issues of our constituency and a

at least he'll do at least that much. >> a lot of things that you also mentioned including accountability, and the responsibility of people to do this in a civilized way so that -- >> let me go on record i'm not saying approve of the violence i disapprove of the violent. i condemn the violence and i need to say that. but at the same time, there are some voices out there that need to be heard that have been ignored for tong. >> thank you very much. we have the president of the united states who is walking right now. president obama, and japan's prime minister walking to the podium. >> good morning everybody. please have a seat. good afternoon. [inaudible] once again it is an honor to welcome my partner and friend prime minister abbay back to the white house. i'm told there's a phrase in japanese coolture that speaks to the spirit that brings us

together today an idea rooted in loyalty. it is an expression of mutuality, respect and shared obligation, it tehran sends any moment or challenge, and it is the friendship that endures and allows us to say that the united states and japan stand together. [inaudible] with and for each other. this is essence of the alliance between united states and japan for lesson for the world. prime minister and i had the opportunity yesterday to visit our memorial to president lincoln who believed that a great conflict had befollowed with reconciliation on of the american people i want to thank you for your visit to arlington national cemetery, your gesture is a powerful reminder that the past can be overcome. former adversaries can be the closest of allies and that nations can build a future

together. across 7 decades our nations have become not just allies but true partners and friends. that mutual affection will be on display tomorrow when becomes first japanese prime minister to address a joint meeting of congress. and we're two global partners that stand together for security and human dignity around the world. opposing russia's aggression against ukraine providing relief and threatened by and now offer aing help to nepal that are in our prayers today. this friendship includes my partnership with prime minister abbay since taking office i've worked to rebalance american foreign policy to ensure that we're playing a larger and lasting role in the asia pacific. a policy groupedded in our treatly alliance including our treaty with japan. and i'm grateful to him for his

deep commitment to that alliance. his -- he's pursuing a vision of japan where the japanese economy is reinvigorated and more contribution to peace in the region and around a the world. so thank you. i believe the progress we've made today will help guide the u.s. japanese partnership for decades to come. specifically we first talked about transforming our security alliance. for the first time in nearly two decades we have updated for the defense cooperation. together our forces will be more flexible and a maritime security to disaster response. our forces will plan train, and operate even more closely. we'll expand our corporation including on cyberthreats and in space. and japan will take on greater roles and responsibilities in the asia pacific and around the world.

our new guidelines commitment our effort to the realign u.s. forces across the region including on okinawa to lessen impact on basis of local communities and i reaffirm ad our commitment to move forward with the relocation of marines from there to guam. i want to rerate that our treaty is absolute and that article 5 covers all territories under japan's administration including thailands. we share concern about china's rand and constructionn'ts in the south china sea. and the united states and japan are united and our commitment to freedom of navigation respect for international law, and this peaceful resolution of disputes without coercion. unit united of the korean peninsula and addressing provocations. we fully support japan's efforts to resolve the tragedy of north

korea's abduction of japanese citizens. during my last visit to japan i met with the mother of one of those about a duck tees she described awful pain that she's endured i know how important this is to the japanese people. meanwhile our trilateral cooperation with the republic of korea as well as with australia gives us new opportunities to enhance security across the region. with respect to trade, we reviewed the frog our teams have made towards the transpacific partnership. it can be hard in both of our countries but i know that prime minister abbay is deeply committed to getting this done and i'm confident we will. i want to point out for example, there are many japanese cars in america i want to see more american cars in japan as well. tpp will help level the playing field and it will be good for workers of both our countries and more over tpp have strong

protection for workers in the environment and set high standards for trade in the 21st century. japan and the united states both operate with high standards in our companies and our corporations. we try to be responsible when it comes to corporate as theship, and a high standards will be good for us and good for the region. based on the progress we've made prime minister abbay and i discussed how the united states and japan as the two largest economies in the tpp negotiations will now working together to lead our tpp partners to swift and successful conclusions with the broader negotiations. we also agreed to continue our close coordination on climate change. with two countries that have made largest pledges to the green climate fund, we're committed to helping nations around a the world cease opportunities of transitioning to low carbon economies. and question discussed the importance of all major economies submitting ambitious

targets to reduce emissions to reach a strong climate agreement this year in ferris. finally we agreed to keep investing in our people so that they and our countries countries are reach their full potential. i want to once again commend prime minister to bring more japanese women into the work force. i can tell you it is very much my view in the united states and arranged the world when women are given opportunity, when they're full-fledged members of political community and the economic community when they have opportunity those countries succeed. it is good for everybody. along with the initiative we launched last year in tokyo we're aiming to double student exchanges in the comes years and with the leadership of our better halfs, our wives within about united states and japan are helping to lead our global initiative let girls learn to give more young women and girls access to education. so these are just some examples

of what it means to be true global partners i'm confident with steps that we've taken today our alliance will play a greater role in upholding prosperity and human dignity not just in the asia pacific but around the world. so, abbay -- [inaudible] mr. prime minister. >> we just heard from president obama of fox news digital politics that chris, joins us now. chris, no word on the situation in baltimore but the president had a lot of a things to say about our relationship with japan and he did start it out talking about how abbay relationships can become friendships felt like he was alluding to other thingings. what was your take of the whole thing? >> the president has a lot of eggs in the japan basket right now. having -- i won't say placated but

changing the united states dynamic with china over the course of his presidency. president now is looking for a way to push back, poke back against china and japan figures largely into those plans so does his trade plan. president had no doubt hoped that when the fms arrived he would be able to present to him a unitessed front past out of congress, authorization for this trade deal. instead his party bush whacked him on the subject and has become thorny and kent get hillary clinton to make a statement in affirmation so trying to plump up for the prime minister and give him something to go home with because he won't have anything on paper. >> chris, couldn't he get a pass without the democrats right now or with republicans support or is there some kind of pr angle that he needs to achieve also? >> there's pr no doubt on this trade deal definitely does not want -- he does not want to leave himself in a position where hillary clinton is on the campaign trail and say well, i

would have done differently and with more regard to working americans he definitely doesn't want that but enough republicans in the united states senate that have qualms about seeding portions of their authority to ratify treaties and democratic opposition grows every day. this is hardening bit day. remember, to get to 60 votes in the united states senate republicans need 60 democrats to help. >> we want to alert the united states there will be a q and a session when prime minister of japan wraps up his comments and question will be probably baltimore. how surprising that the president didn't come out right away and address it? >> look, this is -- a press conference that is substantially for abbay to take home more for a japanese audience but the president no doubt expects if -- i wouldn't be surprised at all if the press office had made sure that there would be a

question, in fact offered to the president only the topic of baltimore. and also a the president today needs to address what is beginning on with those iranians in the ships and what is again on again out there. this is where some combination of offered questions or perhaps a shouted question kind of staged rehearse it had shouted question as president leaves the podium will allow him to talk about those things but still give abbay what had he needs is neat and tidy and too yucky for the audience at home to say why are they starting about talking about racial tub rest in baltimore when we're the most important partner and country in the world for the united states. >> ohing. that might be up for debate. but from oven point of view perhaps not. but here's the thing what do we expect a sort of hey, we have another teachable moment or give something substantial. i think the country wants it needs it really bad. >> the president has consistently tried to have it

both ways on these issues. and there is, of course, a lot of dissatisfaction in the african-american community among liberal it is, among all sorts of folks that the president hasn't done more gone farther than a couple of blue ribbon commissions after it was after the trayvon martin shooting or ferguson at different points with teachable moments called for a national dialogue on race. there's been little bit of talk that has followed so the president has managed to sort of weave his way through. he's been water walker here, skittering along the surface but he hasn't come forward with anything. his commissions haven't said he needs body camera and do this with guideline but a commission that calls for a new commission and we kind of spin our wheels. >> chris, you talked earlier about how important this is to japan and abbay how president obama is probably using them to poke at china. real big elephant in the room in my opinion would be japan saying hey, we want to scuttle, our

constitution that was voiced when we lost world war ii get rid of the pacification part of it if we don't build battleship or supersonic aircraft down in china they've asked philippines to come to the rescue. >> china has been reckless almost for the disregard for old balance of power in the pacific. the united states has said don't. they've said do. and they're building fortifications. they're building aircraft carrier, submarines making it plain that united states is not big dog in the pacific as it has been since the middle of world war ii. here's japan in a difficult position. that says, how can it be the ballwork be part of this, if the united states is getting pushed around by china that is not a good position by united states because you get into regional

conflict with the united states drawn into. >> at the same token closing the base and moving military men out and military service personnel out of japan. and a listen, i tell people all a of the time we can't have it both ways we can't close down bases around the world and not expect these countries then to start to tack up their own defense. we will welcome it although a lot of people think it will create the world's bigs arms race. >> if japan gets serious, there's one thing if they have a they've always had had more defense than a legal constitution. in vision, they've always done that, and they've done it with a wink from the united states. they want to show more, though, and they want to be able to demonstrate that they have clout and when had it comes to the president exes -- explicit including places claimed by china that means something. that no doubt is at the hats of

the prime minister who wants the united states to back him. but remember there's no region in world that is more ignored from a western five militarity that is closer to a large scale than around china this is a big deal. >> okay, hold on we're going to a question now. with the president stay there, chris. >> first of all i want you to know if you think there's a risk in this more view of japanese to -- if you think there's a risk that is might be a provocation in beijing if i may you stopped short of a full apology for actions in world war ii including the record of the estimated women enslaved by imperial forces would you make an apology for that today. thank you. >> i think it is very important to recognize that the u.s.,

japan alliance hasn't a just been good for the united states and japan but for the asia pacific renal and the world. the basic foundation of peace stability ensuring that territorial borders were respected. freedom of navigation, all of that has underwritten the incredible growth that is taking place in the asia pacific region. china has benefited from it. i saw on that basis that china became an economic jug or not that ended up corporateed into global trade, and so no. we don't think that a strong u.s. japan alliance should be

seen as provocation but seen as a continuation of the important work that we've done to ensure that you have a stable area where there are -- diplomatic conflicts, a healthy economic competition, but largely we've been able to maintain forward progress for a whole host of nations, and our treaty alliance has been critical to that. the u.s. serving as an a asia pacific power has been critical to that. and as a i've said before, we welcome china's peaceful rise we think it is good not only because china is a booming potential market, we think it is good not only because it allows china potentially to share some burdens with us in helping

countries that are not as far along developed. we think it is just good that hundreds of millions of chinese citizens have been able rise out of poverty. at incredible speed over the last several years. they could not have done it had it not been for a stable trading system, and world order that is underwritten in large part by the work that our alliances do. it is going to be important to adapt to a ew challenge, so part of the goal here is that the same principles that alliance was founded on continually update to concerns about cyberthreats. that we are nimble and responsive to potential conflicts that may arise because of maritime disputes. but i think we have to do it in a way that brings in china, and

other countries into a common effort to maintain order and peace in the region. we're seeking to strengthen military to military cooperation with china even as we helicopter to upgrade our alliance efforts, obviously, the republic of korea is important part of our alliance structure and a the trilateral work that we do is going to be also very, very important. i don't want to minimize, though the fact that there are some real tensions that have arisen with china around its approach to maritime issues and its claims. arising consequence with the japan alliance, it is primary a conflict between china and various claimants throughout

east asia and southeast asia in which they feel rather than resolve these issues to normal international dispute of settlements, they are flexing their muscles. and we've said to china, what we would say to any country in that circumstance. that is the wrong way to go about it, and we will continue to work with all countries in the region starting with our treaty all a ayes to make sure that basic international norms continue to be observed. >> reporter: on the issue of women, i am deeply pained to think about the woman who think about immeasurable pain and suffering. charles: okay, president abe

answering questions again. we anticipate some questions going to president obama about the situation of baltimore. and as you can see on the screen, the crowds are beginning to swell again, as the day goes on. this may continue. there are curfews that begin at 10:00 p.m. we have elizabeth macdonald with us. this is erie -- eerie what we're seeing on the scene. >> conflicts overseas where we see standoffs like this with certain populations and looks like it might be slightly efg lating. the baltimore sun is putting out reports that lawsuits against the police department paid out roughly 6.3 million dollars since 2011 as the freddie gray issue continues to cause this city to deal with unrest. and you know we talked about the controversy of a police camera and why the police aren't wearing police cameras in the city of baltimore? it's because the mayor has been fighting with the city council over who has the authority to

tell police what to do. she doesn't want city council to have power over the rubber bullets they use as well. we could have had the police cameras that could have documented what happened during the fateful 45 minutes with freddie gray. charles: wrong time and place for a tougher war. real quick, why hasn't there been something on freddie gray's death? >> it's a mystery -- talking to sources down there and try to do reporting on this the 45 minutes remain a mystery that's leading to the escalation and violence in baltimore. if they don't have the answers the city leaders can't get to the bottom of it. we know the department of justice is investigating as well. charles: chris is with us as well. it was interesting to have president obama talk about being nimble and responsive to maritime events around the world with allies. here we are not too many miles away from where he's speaking and wondering how come officials haven't been so

nimble and responsive there? >> there was a moment on saturday when the president was at the white house correspondent's dinner and doing a comedy riff about black anger and he had a comedian up on stage with him who was his anger translator. and it's a funny bit on tvment didn't work that well in the room. but he soldiered on. in realtime 30 or 40 miles away was taking place the boiling over of real black rage, and we have heard a lot of talk about the president and his bucket list or it rhymes with bucket and all of the things he has to say. this is one of the moments when you get the versailles on the potommac vibe in washington. where the president makes jokes to giggles in a room about black rage while the real thing is playing itself out not too far away. charles: chris a lot of critics say silence or in

inability to act makes it worse. i subscribe to the theory, what do you think? >> there is no question that the president, who was elected to be as michael knox baron said a shomonnistic healer. he could do that. there is no doubt in his presidency, we have seen a more prolonged and more severe outbreak of racial unrest in the united states and any time in the last 40 years. that's just true. is it his fault? no, certainly it's not his fault he's not the one doing it. are the two events unrelated? >> probably not. i don't know whether it's an increase among expectations among those who want resolution to what they consider to be a legitimate civil rights issues, i don't know whether it's because the president raised false hopes and unable to deliver on them.

i don't know. but the two things aren't totally unrelated. charles: i will say the president has moved the racial needle 50 years but unfortunately backwards rather than forward. and i think he was uniquely positioned and a lot of people at the first election who didn't vote for him say maybe this is it. maybe this is the elixir, this is what we need to go the extra mile. one thing all americans can say. we're not a perfect nation but the idea of being a perfect nation has been marching ordering, and we've done a good job in a short period of time. >> look, the blight of slavery is not easily removed and for the united states this struggle has been long. it is incomplete and for the americans the beauty of being american is the desire that there be redress that the matter be dealt with. you are 100% right that barack obama's election was seen for many people who disagreed with him ideologically as the signal moment where the change could begin, that the atonement

would shift into real healing. it has been the opposite because the president has not taken the opportunity to traverse that line. he has not said as a black man i'm able to do things that a white president could not do. he hasn't done or said those things or been in that play. charles: resisting to be the quote, unquote black president. i want to let the president know prime minister abe is answering a question on extremism. when he's done president obama will answer. we're going to let you listen in on that it's critical. >> do you hear anybody in the city talking about how devastating and what a dangerous tipping point it is for a city to endure a riot because it can take years if not decades to recover from rioting. we certainly saw that in detroit and cincinnati toledo ohio and the watts section of l.a. it is a serious issue.

anybody talking about that? >> washington, as a matter of fact, knows it very well. it was the 1968 riots i believe in washington, that destroyed much of the 14th street corridor, that burned down much of the city that stands in between the capitol and the white house. that's very much part of washington's collective memory and we celebrated and commemorated its anniversary not too long ago. people are aware, and here's the problem we're confronting, this is just from my limited viewpoint. the problem we're confronting is it has been a generation and a half since people have endured the hardships over protracted periods of time. yes, we had rodney king, and unrest in miami. it's been too long and people may have forgotten what the consequences. >> are some kid who is 17 years old may not understand the history of d.c. baltimore was the center of a lot of rioting at the time.

newark. hey, president obama speaking. let's go back to the president. >> about how best to approach their defense but i think it's important to note as prime minister abe said that we have seen over multiple decades now that japan is a peace loving country. having absorbed some very difficult lessons from the past. japan does not engage in aggression on the international stage or in its region. and that the alliance that has been built with the united states is principally one that seeks to defend our countries from potential attack or

aggression and the new defense guidelines and the collective defense approach that prime minister abe is proposing simply upgrades our ability to carry out those core functions. we do share, as people and countries all around the world share a determination to eliminate the kind of barbaric terrorist acts perpetrated by organizations like isil that have resulted in the death of innocent citizens from the united states, from japan, from other countries, and most of all from muslim countries, and that's why we have a broad-based coalition designed to defeat isil, and we will

continue to work with a wide range of countries around the world in our counterterrorism efforts. japan's cooperation in that is vital and appreciated, but there are many ways in which coalition members participate. japan's willingness and commitment to provide humanitarian assistance makes an enormous difference in countries that have been destabilized. japan's willingness to serve in areas of peacekeeping and working with other countries to rebuild after they've been destroyed makes a big difference. so i think it's important to recognize we do not expect some instance and major transformation in terms of how japan projects military power but we do expect that japan like all of our allies and like

ourselves will continue to adapt to new threats. understanding that our basic core principle is not territorial ambition not aggression towards others but simply to defend against prosperity and liberty and the sovereignty of countries, as we have done for a very long time now. as we have done together for a very, very long time. chris? >> reporter: thank you, mr. president. as you know the national guard is now on the streets of baltimore. the latest aftermath in a series of what have been high-profile confrontations between black men and police officers, and there seems to be growing frustration among african-american leaders that not enough is being done quickly enough marc morial of the urban league says the u.s. is in a state of emergency of tremendous proportions.

the past the naacp legal defense fund says we are have in the throes of a national crisis? are we in the throes of a national crisis? what are we prepared to do about it with respect to baltimore and larger critics and what do you say to critics that since the death of trayvon martin you have not been in your response. how important is keeping the trade deal with china in check economically and militarily, and do you agree with president obama when he says failing to complete a deal will simply further china's insolence. thank you. >> before i answer the question on baltimore, i'm going to hone in on your question to prime minister abe. i've been very clear that tpp is good for american businesses and american workers. regardless of what china is doing. and we will make the case on

the merits as to why it will open up markets for american goods american exports and create american jobs. so this is not simply a defensive agreement. this is something that's going to be part and parcel of our broader economic agenda moving forward, and when 95% of the world's markets are outside our shores. we got to make sure we're out there competing, and i'm confident we can compete. with respect to baltimore, let me make a couple of points. first obviously our thoughts continue to be with the family of freddie gray. understandably, they want answers, and d.o.j. has opened an investigation, it is working with local law enforcement to find out exactly what happened and there should be full transparency and accountability. second, my thoughts wear the police officers who were injured in last night's disturbances.

it underscores that that's a tough job, and we have to keep that in mind. and my hope is that they can heal and get back to work as soon as possible. point number three, there's no excuse for the kind of violence that we saw yesterday. it is counterproductive when individuals get crowbars and start prying open doors to loot, they're not protesting. they're not making a statement. they're stealing. when they burn down a building they're committing arson, and they're destroying and undermining businesses and opportunities in their own communities that rob jobs and

opportunity from people in that area. so it is entirely appropriate that the mayor of baltimore who i spoke to yesterday, and the governor, who i spoke to yesterday work to stop that kind of senseless violence and destruction. that is not a protest. that is not a statement. it's people a handful of people taking advantage of a situation for

i think handled this appropriately, expressing real concern and outrage over the possibility that our laws were not applied evenly in the case of mr. gray and that accountability needs to exist. and i think we have to give them credit. my understanding is if you've got some of the same organizers now going back into the communities to clean up in the aftermath of a handful of criminals and thugs who tore up the place.

what they were doing what those community leaders and clergy and others were doing, that is a statement. that's the kind of organizing that needs to take place if we're going to tackle this problem. and they deserve credit for it and we should be lifting them up. point number five, and i've got six. because this is important. since ferguson and the task force that we put together we have seen too many instances of what appears to be police officers interacting with

individuals primarily african-american, often poor in ways that raise troubling questions. and it comes up it seems like once a week now. once every couple of weeks, and so i think it's pretty understandable why the leaders of civil rights organizations, but more importantly moms and dads across the country might start saying this is a crisis. what i'd say is this has been a slow rolling crisis, this has been going on a long time. this is not new, and we shouldn't pretend that it's new. the good news is that perhaps there's some new found awareness because of social media and video cameras and so forth that there are problems and challenges when it comes to how policing and our laws are

applied in certain communities and we have to pay attention to it and respond. what's also good news is the task force that was made up of law enforcement and community activists that we brought together in the white house have come up with very constructive, concrete proposals that if adopted by local communities and by states and by counties by law enforcement generally, would make a difference. wouldn't solve every problem but would solve increasing trust and making sure the overwhelming majority of effective honest and fair law enforcement officers, that they're able to do their job better because it will weed out or retrain or put a stop to those handful who may be not doing what they're supposed to

be doing. now the challenge for us the federal government is we don't run the police forces. i can't federalize every police force in the country and force them to retrain, but what i can do is to start working with them collaboratively so that they can begin this process of change themselves and coming out of the task force we put together we're now working with local communities. the department of justice announced a grant program for those jurisdictions that want to purchase body cameras. we are going to be issuing grants for those jurisdictions thattar prepared to start trying to implement for the new training and data collection and other things that can make a difference, and we're going to keep on working with the local jurisdictions so that they can begin to make the changes that are necessary.

i think it's going to be important for organizations like the fraternal order of police and other police unions and organizations to acknowledge that this is not good for police. we have to own up to the fact that occasionally there are going to be problems here just as there are in every other occupation. there's some bad politicians who are corrupt. there are folks in the business community or on wall street who don't do the right thing. well, there are some police who aren't doing the right thing, and rather than close ranks, you know what we've seen is a number of thoughtful police chiefs and commissioners and others recognize they got it get their arms around this thing and work together with the community to solve the problem and we're committed to facilitating that process. so the heads of our cops agency

that helps with community policing, they're already out in baltimore. our head assistant attorney general for civil rights division is already out in baltimore. but we're going to be working systematically with every city and jurisdiction to help them implement some solutions that we know work. and i'll make my final point. i'm sorry mr. prime minister but this is a pretty important issue for us. we can't just leave this to the police. i think there are police departments that have to do some soul-searching. i think there's some communities that have to do some soul-searching. but i think we as a country have to do some soul-searching. this is not new. it's been going on for decades. and without making any excuses

for criminal activities that take place in these communities, what we also know is that if you have impoverished communities that have been stripped away of opportunity, where children are born into abject poverty. they've got parents often because of substance abuse problems or incarceration or lack of education themselves can't do right by their kids. if it's more likely those kids end up in jail or dead than they likely go to college. in communities where there are no fathers who can provide guidance to young men. communities that where there's no investment, and manufacturing's been stripped away, and drug have flooded the community and the drug industry ends up being the primary employer for a whole lot of

folks. in those environments, if we think that we're just going to send the police to do the dirty work of containing the problems that arise there without as a nation and as a society saying what can we do to change those communities to help lift up the communities and give kids opportunity then we're not going to solve this problem. and we'll go through the same cycles of periodic conflicts between the police and communities and the occasional riots in the streets and everybody will feign concern until it goes away and then we go about business as usual. if we are serious about solving this problem we're not only

going to have to help the police, we're going to have to think about what can we do? the rest of us. to make sure that we're providing early education to these kids to. make sure we're reforming our criminal justice system so it's not just a pipeline from schools to prisons. so that we're not rendering men in these communities unemployable because of a felony record for a nonviolent drug offense. that we're making investments so that they can get the training they need to find jobs. that's hard. that requires more than just the occasional news report or task force and there's a bunch in my agenda that would make a difference right now. i'm of no illusion out of this congress we're going to get massive investments in urban communities and so we'll try to find areas where we can make

a difference around school reform and around job training and around some investments in infrastructure in these communities and trying to attract new businesses in. but if we really want to solve the problem, if our society really wanted to solve the problem we could, it's just it would require everybody saying this is important, this is significant. and that we don't just pay attention to these communities when a cvs burns and don't just pay attention when a young man gets shot or has his spine snapped. we're paying attention all the time because we consider those kids our kids and we think they're important, and they shouldn't be living in poverty and violence. that's how i feel. i think there are a lot of good meaning people around the country that feel that way, but that kind of political

mobilization, i think we haven't seen in quite sometime. and what i tried to do is to promote those ideas that would make a difference but i think we all understand that the politics of that are tough because it's easy to ignore those problems or to treat them just as a law and order issue as opposed to a social issue. that was a long answer but i feel strongly about it. charles: president obama started off with a preplan six-point answer to the inevitable question what's going on in baltimore. it led to by his own admissions something of a diatribe. i'm not sure if the original questions were answered. elizabeth mcdonald is here with

me. geraldo rivera on the phone. did you get a chance to listen to the president's comments? >> i did charles, i'm on the train heading to baltimore now. i want to say two things, the president buried the lead in the sense they think the condemnation of the anarchists and the average violence should have been much more impassioned and higher in his six-point presentation. secondly what i would have done if i were the president is extol the virtue our viewers might recall, a black mom, singling on the street, tearing his mask off as he joined the rioters whacking up upside the head and telling him to get his ass home and get off the street. good parents and personal responsibility should have been higher. rather than whoa is me the political situation is so difficult we'll never get anything done. if he seized the mantle and

said i will commit the rest of my one year and a half to making the best effort i can to fixing the situation. for example, i want a federal investigation of every single police in the country and body cams of every police department and tasers instead of guns, he could have been more affirmative. i have no problem with the eloquence and obvious pain with the situation. he has to be much more hands on and i think this is in the six years he's been in office, this is his biggest failing not to seize these urban problems that exist that we've all known for decades and doing something about it. charles: less than 30 seconds, i agree 100%. i did not see where the president told the people themselves that you have to do something for yourself. everything else with the rest of the country doing something for you. i never saw or heard one thing with the president saying you have to change your life. you have the ability in america to do that and i think that's a hopeless message he keeps

selling. >> well i want him to be the father in chief right now, charles. that's what we need. we need fathers. we need the cops not to kill kids of course. charles: i got to cut you off. thanks a lot. here's deirdre bolton guys. >> charles thank you so much. president obama, you were just listening and talking about it making remarks on the chaos in baltimore. >> there's no excuse for the kind of violence that we saw yesterday. it is counterproductive. when individuals get crowbars and start prying open doors to loot, that's are they're not protesting. they're not making a statement. they're stealing. >> the protests continue in baltimore after a night of riots looting and fire destroying property injuring people, the mayor's office s