is she? liz: she is friend of brad hayley chief marketing officer of brad hayley, said it is like two sandwiches in one and your side. carl's, jr. david: i don't think many people look at sandwich. liz: have a good night. gerri: hello, everyone i'm gerri willis. this is "the willis report." we begin this hour with breaking news. latest developments on deadly amtrak derailment. ntsb, expected to announce new findings of their investigation any minute. we'll bring them to you live when it happens. meantime, eight now confirmed dead while the engineer claims to have no memory of the crash. with us former ntsb investigator alan deal, a former board member the ntsb john goal yaw. we'll start here with john. we're waiting for alan to get to the phone. john, i want to start with the news we got just today.

total death toll now eight. final individual pried from the first car just today. what do you make of this change? we understand this is the sum total of the deaths here? does that surprise you? >> surprising it is considering the speed of the train. were very fortunate with that regard. still it is eight too many. we have technology to prevent this and it just wasn't implemented. gerri: right. we talked about that a little bit last night, the positive train control that has been implemented in some parts of the track but not this particular stretch in that hard left turn that this train tried to negotiate and did not. alan i understand we have you available now. this is the announcement today. so surprising. they're now eight deaths. taken a while to get the total number together. what do you make of this news?

>> well, and that. david: this kind of destruction i can understand how one of the bodies took a while to recover. thank goodness we now know where everybody is. we have accounted for everybody. as john said eight is eight too many. at least now we know, gerri. gerri: well-put, eight is eight too many. all attention now on the engineer brandon bostian 32. he was in a six-hour interview with the cops which he said he really didn't remember what happened very much. john, to you first. you have done a lot of these investigations. you're very knowledgeable about how this works. does it surprise you that the engineer wouldn't remember the last seconds of what happened? >> it is not unusual. especially since they took a pretty good blow to his head. i think the number was 14 stitches to close the gash in his head. it is not surprising that but

not remember the end of the event. i'm surprised, although we haven't fully heard, he was able to remember when he left the station what throttle settings did he use? this train went relatively fast in a short period of time. did he come out of that, was he operating the train the way amtrak rules say he should have been operating? gerri: well, can you answer that question? >> not with the information we have right now. but that is one of the questions that everybody is now wanting to answer. gerri: here is what the engineer's attorney had to say about this he remembers driving the train. he remembers going through that area generally. you, but he has no recollection of the incident or anything unusual. the next thing he, coming to, finding his bag getting his cell phone and dialing 911. alan, do you think this engineer

could have been following amtrak protocols? >> well, again, like john said we don't know. we have to get more information, but, gerri i'm a psychologist not a physician. i've seen this temporary amnesia due to trauma many times and he may being perfectly forthcoming. due to any kind of head blow like that can cause permanent amnesia depending how bad it is and what part of the brain is affected. but sometimes memories will start coming back after a few days. i think that is why the board is waiting for a while to talk to him. in hopes that maybe he will remember more about it. but clearly, we know, the rules say, if you exceed the specified speed limits more than 10 miles an hour you can lose your locomotive engineer license. the fra, federal railway administration can literally take you off the tracks so to

speak. gerri: take you off the track literally. want to remind our viewers. >> literally. gerri: we're waiting for an ntsb press conference we may get more and new details breaking news what happened with this train. we of course very interested in knowing more about the engineer. for that i turn to john again. brandon bostian, 32, apparently was in a six-hour interview with the cops there where he said many of the things we're describing. he really didn't remember what happened. tell me what kind of training john, somebody like this would have gotten as an amtrak engineer? >> training on how to drive the train which is not really all that complicated and the ability to recognize certain failures the train would have in the braking system for example. in the electronic systems of the train. would get training on understanding the signal civil. he would get a fair amount of training on understanding the

rules of the road so to speak. just like we do when we get our driver's license. we want to know what every sign means, what you should do with the cautions are. it is it is not that complicated to drive the train. it is what i'm saying. gerri: alan you're an expert on the human element here. as we know, brandon was just six short years ago, i believe he was working at a target. apparently a big train buff. he went through the training. what kinds of challenges would he have faced in the engineer's seat? you're all about the brain, what is between the ears. are there challenges he would have faced in doing this job day-to-day? there are many, many challenges. john was describing some of the things that an engineer needs to be aware of. he needs to be able to perceive what's happening to maintain what they call, situational awareness. nowadays, gerri most of these engineers are trained in

simulators also so they can practice emergencies. to make sure they don't suffer a startle response when something happens. one thing we have to keep in mind, we don't know all this technology worked. maybe this was a mechanical problem, not a human problem. gerri: right. and i would like to get john on that quickly before we go here. total amtrak derailments since 2005. 315. john to you, what could be the possible mechanical issues here? other than the fact we know we din have positive train control here what could have gone wrong? >> well a runaway train essentially. if something happened to the throttle system which is at least partially electronic, if something happened to the system, it lacked power and unable to turn that power off. so there are multiple ways of turning the power off. but like alan says there is

battle factor here and maybe he was trying. some of the event recorder data will help solve that. and also, if it is a electronic issues, most electronic units today have chips retain the memories of the positions that they were in. the technical term is non-volatile memory. if they have these non-volatile memory chips installed, takes a little time but the ntsb can go back in and read the data off of those chips, right down to the tiny little chips that are in it. so, i'm confident that overtime, we will get what we have to get. gerri: wow. there is a lot of data yet to come in. the chips you describe tell us about the operation of the train up to the last second. there are cameras on the front of the train that will show us precisely what is going on with the train. lots of information to come. alan, john thanks for coming on

the show. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thanks, gerri. gerri: we'll have that ntsb news conference for you as soon as it starts. expected to start anytime now. meanwhile amtrak's ceo says limited service to the northeast corridor will be restored monday, full service tuesday. that is a lot of time for commuters out there who rely on these trains every single day. a travel expert joins me now. lee, let's take a look at a couple of numbers here. 750,000 trips a day on these trains. 260 million trips a year. we're talking about, we're talking about amtrak serving lots an lots of people. tell me what do you expect out of service and how is it going right now? >> obviously service is completely disrupted between new york and washington, especially via philadelphia. some of the regional trains are helping out like new jersey transit and philadelphia metro septa. they are carrying some of the

burden but can't carry all the burden left by the amtrak mess. it is really bad. gerri: it is really bad and lots of pressure on amtrak. how busy is this corridor this particular train corridor? >> it is busiest corridor in the united states. i went to school in the washington area. i'm from the new york area. gerri: you know it. >> i know it very well. it is also one of the most, i always thought the most overpriced portion of travel in the united states. gerri: yeah. >> you pay like $300 for a one-way ticket. now that it is not here, you're thinking wow, that was actually kind of a bargain because it is so convenient, because airports are nightmare and buss are difficult. gerri: particularly the acela and northeast corridor. go right in town. grab the train get on it and move. i understand even planes are booked now. if you're trying to get to washington, trying to get to new york, this weekend or maybe monday or tuesday, it will be super hard. what do you do? >> you can always rent a car, if

you don't have a car, you can rent a car. you have to pay drop off fee in d.c. which can add up and gas and tolls along the jersey turnpike or whatever. you can also take a us about. there is still limited space on uses about. of course buses you can get caught in a lot of traffic. i tried both bus and megabus before. not my favorite mode of transport. airlines are adding flights and capacity. they're putting larger planes. gerri: are they adding capacity and boosting price, that is my question. >> i heard they are. but i haven't looked myself. gerri: okay. question with my staff, you think traveling by train is safest way you can possibly do. now eight people are dead. what do you say to people who are nervous getting on amtrak? >> i have to say. these things happen. it is terrible but it happens and happens with planes, trains,

automobiles and everything. it won't sway me one way or the other getting on an amtrak train. gerri: you would still get on the amtrak? >> 100%. happens all over the world. it is unfortunate but happens sadly. gerri: lee, thanks for coming on the show tonight. so good to see you. >> you too. gerri: a lot more coming on tonight. walmart going head-to-head with amazon in fierce new price war. we'll have details. one of the biggest names from the mainstream media finally admitting he is backing the clintons with dollars and cents. details coming up. ntsb due to have a news conference to update the amtrak investigation. we'll have that as soon as it happens. stay with us.

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gerri: more "clinton cash" from a news anchor. george stephanopoulos, former

clinton white house aide and abc news anchor gave $75,000 to the foundation over the years but never disclosed it. michael welcome to the show. this story to me, i am, am i naive? i am shocked by this first he would give money to the clintons and not disclose it. your reaction? >> first blush what else did you expect? who else would he give his money to other than the clintons. worked for bill clinton. gerri: worked for them. >> he wrote a book. gerri: doesn't that require you have extra caution in your dealings with them. >> absolutely. also timing, gerri. first one was in 2013 and 2014. not sure where the third one came in. he had to know hillary clinton was running. not like a secret this campaign. gerri: no. >> this is major problem for him. he already agreed he would not moderate any presidential debates no republican would let him. but i think it is a bigger problem than that what about the other employees at abc?

they're also now tainted because he is such a star there if he is effectively endorsing clintons, come on. gerri: i could say he most high-profile face. >> certainly. the best well-known most well-known. i think it is significant issue because this is a clear conflict of interest. he is interviewed other candidates. he interviewed the author of "clinton cash," never disclose it again. gerri: highly, highly critical of findings in the book, "clinton cash." basically said you can't prove any of these allegations, that hillary was receiving money for campaign donations that then steered decisions. let me give you a quote from george stephanopoulos. i thought my contributions were a matter of public record he says. however in hindsight i should have taken the extra step personally disclosing my donations to my employer and viewers on air during the recent news stories about the foundation. i apologize. here is what i don't understand about this. shouldn't have given money in the first place. >> that's right true. gerri: why are we circumventing

that issue? why are we ignoring that? >> no secret she was going to run. so, look i think abc has a problem. if they clearly if they were blind-sided as that statement seems to suggest that abc didn't even know, how did they let him get away with that? because as i say, taints not only him taints the network, taints everybody who works there when it comes to covering politics. gerri: let's move on to some other stuff. i'm rivetted by that story. i'm not surprised by media backing the left backing clintons backing democratic nominee. i'm just surprised it is so obvious. i want to take you to polls. hillary clinton, chris christie topping polls for less ethical. doesn't come as surprise. taken a while for hillary to show up in her numbers problems with clinton foundation, problems with e ails. >> right. gerri: what you dick of these numbers? >> this is pattern for her. a cross the country, a number of

polls people ask do you find her trustworthy, do you find her honest? majority are saying no in state after state and national polls. this is another finding in the same thing that people regard her as less trustworthy than the average or most politicians. we don't regard most politicians as honest. gerri: just like dog catcher, right? >> very low standard. so she is scraping bottom on character and integrity issues. ultimately this is other biggest opponent. it is not the republicans at this point. can she surmount this hurdle -- gerri: she is her own worst enemy. let's go to the other end though who is more ethical. governor huckabee gets highest marks. senator rand paul number two. there is a lot of talk about huckabee. a lot of republicans shooting at huckabee that he is not right for the job. keeps turning up in the polls with positive numbers. what is your interpretation of that? >> huckabee has a good base.

in 2008 he did very well in the primaries. finishing second to mccain overall. but the question is can he expand his base. essentially has evangelical base in the southern states. can he expand it, make it bigger than that? it is an important base but not big enough to win the nomination by itself. gerri: quick last question. another poll "fox news poll" here. hillary versus jeb bush. jeb bush apparently inadvertently said by the way i'm running, didn't mean to. neck-and-neck. 44% for hillary. 45 for jeb bush. it is super early. is it meaningless for that reason alone? >> yeah. in this point in 2007 it was going to be rudy giuliani versus hillary clinton. neither one of them made it to the finals. it is early. it is important. it is important because it helps people raise money. when it looks like you're viable, in the front tier, even you can raise more money, which gives you second effort. the polls are not dispositive but they are significant. gerri: michael good win, always good to have you on the show.

>> thank you, gerri. gerri: later on the show major threat to the nation's banks. is your money safe. next the battle of the retail giants. walmart takes on amazon prime testing a new unlimited shipping service. we'll be right back.

gerri: it is mano-a-mano. walmart competing with amazon's popular shipping service by trying their own unlimited shipping service for half the cost of amazon prime. we have personal finance expert vera gibbons.

we were talking about this during the break. can walmart make inroad for amazon's online customers. do you think they have a chance? >> they will try to. this is long overdue for walmart. they're sort of a trend follower. they don't necessarily follow the trend. following amazon's footsteps. trying to be a shopping powerhouse. this is necessary move. big investment for walmart. they have to beef that up. this is concerted effort to compete with the big guys. gerri: we've seen all year long how walmart entices customers not only on line but also in the store. they know the web is critically important part. >> 13 billion in e-commerce last year. they want to up the ante. that is big number. they want to do better. gerri: number of visitors to sites. 81 million. amazon, get this, 178 million. there is no brick-and-mortar amazon. almost unfair to compare them. >> it is. walmart is known for brick-and-mortar store.

that is where they made their business. they're only trying to really push the pedal to the metal on online but i have to tell you a lot of people say the delta on that how quickly they're growing that business isn't bad. >> amazon prime has 40 million members in the u.s. they spend $1500 a year versus non-members who spend 625. gerri: that is amazing. >> walmart wants to get in there but they have a long way to go. l always one step behind trends. we'll see how this pans out. they long had warehouses ready to go. they lack the infrastructure to get orders out the door into consumers homes in couple days. they haven't been able to do it. gerri: that is what amazon so so expert. they invested a lot of money in. you know amazon also offers lots and lots of little perks and benefits. you know, their prime membership is expensive but you get other things. >> you got video and music streaming. that is a free service. walmart will roll this out this summer. see how it goes in select

markets. by invitation only. i haven't received my invitation. i don't know if you have. try it out. consumer feedback will dictate how the program per sleeves and goes forward and how it sort of einvolves. they could offer free services down the line. focusing on shipping, $50 a year half of what amazon prime members pay a relative bargain. 50 bucks. gerri: two-day delivery on amazon prime. $99 is annual fee. walmart delivery within three days $50 annual fee. price comparison is not apples to apples. >> should point out it will not be every single product online on walmart. only a million products. they have seven million on line. electronics home goods and number of different categories. it will resonate well with consumers. they want fast reliable affordable. the problem is the infrastructure. getting it too the home. gerri: you said that. one of the questions can walmart cannibalize amazon customers.

i'm not sure it is same group of people. >> i don't think it is the same group of people, honestly. amazon prime members are spending $1500 a year. i don't think walmart will get anywhere close to that. gerri: thanks. is president obama starting a new nuclear arms race in the middle east? reports after new russian cyber task force planning to attack the world's biggest banks. details coming up after the break.

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after hitting a curve at more than 100 miles an hour. and the bottom marathon bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev hassent the first full day in deliberations. whether or not the 21-year-old will get the death penalty or life in prison. and the iranian ship in singapore in the persian gulf, no one was injured in the machine gunfire but disabled the shift after it refused to move no, i didn't know waters. and the s&p s&p 500 has hit a new record following some encouraging news on the jobs market. the number of people applying for unemployment if he will last week to its lowest level in 15 years and those are some of the other stories in the news tonight. a russian cyber hacking group with ties to the government has been gearing up on states arn the world potentially putting your financial information at risk. with more on this identity theft 9-1-1 founder adam,

adam welcome back to the show. so explain what you're actually talking about. is this, like, a circle of russian criminals or what? >> well, it's a group of hackers, they think they're state sponsored, they think some of these folks were involved in the hack of unclassified e-mail system at the white house they've attacked military targets government targets and now they seem to be fascinated by banking targets . gerri: so let's go over those tanks. they're launching fake websites that look like the same thing so there's a candid trust and a fourth here, i'm not really sure, commercial bank international in the uae. >> right. gerri: explain what their goal is here. are they trying to lure you into first national bank banks? >> absolutely. they're going to be hitting you with spear if i should be attacks with e-mails that are directed to you that seem to be coming from the financial institution. you will go to what you think is your log in page at the

financial institution, you will put in your user name and password, and then they will take that information and they're going to go into these banks and for many consumers because they have user name and passwords they might be looking at other websites as well if they were you . gerri: so could they wipe out their money? isn't the intro i said they're trying to steal your financial information, but aren't they just trying to get your cash. >> absolutely. they've been tied to some $900 million worldwide, so the report is that they're warning banks that they're customer service people and their executives may be targeted as well by e-mails that look like it's coming from legitimate customers and that's for the purposes of putting malwear on bank sites so that they can dig deeper into the bank sites and we saw somebody with jp morgan, we still don't

know who they were or what they were looking for . gerri: it's just outrageous, and i have to tell you, you know it makes -- i understand why they're going after the banks because that's where the money is, but that's not all that they're doing they're setting up face websites, something that looks like youtube is actually yov tube.com google settings, take a look at these. so you'll notice that the spelling is slightly wrong in many cases. what's going on here, adam? >> well, again the purposes is anything that they can do in order to get as much information by you so they can immerse i am and it's all based on money or whatever information they can get to ultimately steal identities for other reasons. so that's why consumers have to be really careful to never, ever click on a link that takes you anywhere. if you want to be safe in terms of dealing with your

financial institution either go to your browser and directly type in the correct name or you can actually put the website for your financial institution if your favorites so that you don't rely on -- and maybe you'll misspell it. >> uh-huh. gerri: so go to your favorites. yeah the other thing -- gerri: wait. so what if you have an ipad and you're using an app, is that safer. >> generally i think apps are much safer because the direct line is the institution . gerri: and quickly before you go what else do you recommended to do. >> i recommended that you sign up with your bank, your credit unit union for what's called alerts and the other thing with your financial sites always use two isaacs, so if you go to a site that looks like your site unless that image that's come up that has confirmed that they're the

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gerri: i just want to remind you, we're waiting for the start of the press conference to be held by nb, they're going to get us more details on this tragedy the tragic train accident in philadelphia, and more details as soon as that starts, we'll go right to it. in the meantime another big story the president hosting a meeting with half a dozen persian gulf countries. the president is trying to

convince them to get in the war with iran. so far it's not going tool. two of the six leaders invited showed up. but just a moment ago the press with the officials that did show up, president obama promising the u.s. will stand by those allies and tension with iran. here's the president just moments ago. >> and i was very explicit as will be reflected in the joint statement that we released that the united states will stand by our gcc partners against external attack and -- gerri: that was the president. joining me now the two guests on this segment, he is author of the book a battle for the soul of islam and fox news analyst, welcome to you both. great to have you here.

>> thank you gerri . gerri: so with these talks they're not ought@this, four of the six of these countries staying at home, what do you think of that? >> well, first of all president obama invited them not during, not before, but after the first round of the negotiations with the iranian regime and the plan was under attack and these nations have been telling him directly why are we not sitting on that table with you? so that was before the event in yemen, and then after when the iranians were supposed to change direction that sees almost 80% of yemen so now the saudis and the others are very concerned . gerri: exactly so and i think many of them are deeply concerned about what the u.s. is doing in this negotiation. what are the prospects that these folks are all going to

come together on the president's deal with iran, which so many countries have spoken out against? >> well, i don't see that much hope in that. i think the president felt like he was just doing it while guaranteeing them some type of support, you know, we're basically seeing the president in an arms race, and it's interesting to look while he had his pressure today the iranian press tv has on its home page a press conference it they had with the head iraq so why isn't iraq included? and the president has used harsh language against iran today while the arab government see us from going to one side of the tennis court to the other with no vision or plan, and it's sad to see the reactive nature of our president rather than proactive in leading this community, which needs leadership . gerri: let me tell you how much we're not being respected. one of these leaders decided to go to the horse show in

england with the queen instead of showing up at this thing. i mean this is the level we've come to in these negotiations. let me get you the dress of the president's concerns here because we have information about why the president so insistent about this deal with iran. listener to this. >> our position is very clear. iran has had a nuclear program that has been for at least two decades now. they have been continuing those actions often without intrusive inspection. and our point is under these agreement that we're pursuing with the iranians, that program will be rolled back and face significant limitations -- gerri: so two decades is what this white house official is saying. two decades they've had the program underway. the white house wouldn't it be better to be at the table with

the iranians if they're about to get nuclear capability. how do you respond to that? >> first of all, that's not true. it's not factual that they were not constrained, they were constrained actually since 2003. what were they doing is the other question. they were developing missiles. they actually slowed down on the nukes developed the missiles, and now they obtain the agreement with the obama administration and what they obtain more importantly billions of dollars. what did they do the next day after the agreement? they started buying antiflight, antiairplane missiles to make sure to protect the nukes. so i think that this agreement actually is going to give the iranian regime the ability to produce the nukes and to protect them . gerri: and beyond that, it looks like the entire middle east is going to be nuclearized. and we have a different folks in saudi arabia and elsewhere saying, you know it looks like we're going to get nep

developing our nuclear program. have we inadvertently in our efforts to get onboard with iran made it possible for everyone there to be nuclearized? >> well, i hate to say it. it sort of seems that we, we have an india pakistan scenario happening, but that was much more stable man that know what this is, we see iran firing at both today and we see the continue militarization of the middle east more so with the arms, russian sold 300 millions to iran, which was blocked in 2010 by the u.s. and israel and now just sort of happening. the president talking about lifting sanctions, which would loosen billions to further field terrorism in islamist radicals and saudis are also feeling some of the militants so it's sad that there's no adults in the middle east anymore, and the president has said that impediments a solution if you will, a treaty and gladly the house today signed that they're at

least going to get an opportunity to do that . gerri: and brings up israel, what about the our treatment with countries that have been long time allies of ours? what do you make of that? >> well, it has been the case since 2009 that our natural allies were abandoned and those were radicals we've tried to partner with. the obama administration tried over the past four or five years for partner with them in egypt and indonesian a and what was the response of people rejecting that, same thing happening with israel and now same thing with the gulf state. so across the board instead of going with our natural allies, whatever those allies are, we have gone with the regime instead of the people . gerri: talk to me a little bit about with our standing in the world because this is what i'm concerned about and worried about frankly. it seems to me we lose standing every day. do you agree. >> we really do and the sad thing is fund middle east

tribalism and dictators, you would understandable they usually come to the table when they have it happen they only understand that president reagan used to say when they have to act in their own best interest, if they have to act -- gerri: sorry to interrupt you we have a press conference about to start. thank you. so we're now in philadelphia at the ntsb press conference, which is starting moments from now. they're addressing what happened with the accident. >> it had been recorded that the engineer of the train would not talk to the ntsb, but i have been trying to beat those rumors down for the last day or so. i'm very pleased to report that we have contacted the engineer, and he hasn't agreed to be intrude by the ntsb. and we look forward to that

opportunity. we will be meeting with him in the next few days. while we're talking on the topic of interviews, we have started interviewing passengers who were injured passengers that are currently in the hospital. we want to find out their perspective of things, we want to find out where they were seated and their injury patterns so that we can start figuring out their injuries for crash survival issues. before there was of a forward facing video and we've got some information from our review of that. we've got good quality video up to the point of derailment.

we can see the track being illuminated by the train's headlights. and then also shows the speed of the train and so that has been what we've been able to do from that. create somewhat of a timeline. 65 seconds before the end of the recording the train speed went above 70 miles per hour. 43 seconds before the end of the recording the train speed exceeded 80 miles per hour. 31 seconds before the end of the recording the train speed was going to 90 miles per hour. 16 seconds before the end of the recording the train speed

was going through 100 miles per hour. just before entering the curve is when the engineer applied the engineer induced breaking to put it into emergency breaking. and i'll describe it as seconds into the turn we could say the train tilting approximately ten degrees to the right and then the recording went blank. some other things that we've been able to do today we've developed test and inspection plans for the railcars and the locomotives. we've examined the predeparture inspections for train 188 as it left before it

left union station two nights ago. which includes the predeparture break test and there are no anomalies noted in any of those inspection records. we will continue to examine all of the inspection records for the train. today we intrude the manager the amtrak manager in charge of training and qualification of railroad engineers. we also intrude the train dispatchers who were involved in dispatching this particular train. reviewing the track inspection records, one of the records we have is the track geometry records, you may recall a day before the accident, a geometry inspection vehicle

drove over the trail. rail two. track two that this train traveled on. and then there were no anomalies noted with the track inspection after the geometry inspection. we've completed the on site 3d laser scanning of the first two cars, the first two cars were those that were damaged the most. that would be the business class and the quiet car. one of the things i said we will be doing would be to test the signals. the train control signals that are alongside the railroad tracks we've tested most of those, the only ones we have not tested are those ones that are in the vicinity of the rail site just because we

haven't been able to have good access to those but we are going to test those tomorrow. with the track signals that we have already inspected or downloaded the recorders from, there were no anomalies recorded with those recorders with the signal themselves, no anomalies noted. the ntsb has released the site back to amtrak. one of the things that we'll be doing in the coming week we've got to wait for the track to be repaired. one of the things we will do is a site test, that's where we will take a train under similar lighting and weather conditions we'll take a train

and see how far out that curve would come into vision. people have asked if this train was operating on time, and train 188 departed philadelphia the 30th street station, it departed philadelphia on time, the 30th street station, so it was running on time at that point. somebody asked earlier today one of my one-on-one interviews what type of locomotive that it was, and i checked on that. it was an electrically powered locomotive so of course it received its electricity from the overhead. it's called an acs64 that stands for amtrak city sprinter, this is one of the neuromodels that amtrak is

placing into service, and this particular locomotive was placed into service just over a year ago. i want to thank all of the first responders. we have received excellent corporation from the parties to the investigation, which would include amtrak, the federal administration, and also would include the city of philadelphia for everything that they've been doing. i want to thank the mayor's office and in particular the mayor, we appreciate all their support and their assistants. we would be glad to take your questions if you would. raise your hands i'll call on you, and then state your name and affiliation. and let's just start right here. >> [inaudible] gerri: pat wants to know if the speed increases, if we

could tell were done manually and at this point we don't know that. we think that we will be able to -- when we interview the engineer, we would like to find out those types of things. but just from the track image recorder, it just shows the speed alone. it doesn't tell how the speed got there. question right here. >> [inaudible] >> to make sure that i get the last part of your question. so the question basically i think centers around train control, which amtrak prefers to as access.

stands for automatic civil speed enforcement system. that's amtrak's version of train control. and the question is what caused the train control from preventing this accident. let me answer that by saying designed one of the four things that it is designed to do is to prevent overspeed and other things and we do not want to have an overspeed situation that would cost a real man. from that i can confidently say that an operational system would have prevented this. i concomitantly say that this would have prevented this accident. [inaudible question]

[inaudible question] >> a system that amtrak currently has is basically the equivalent of train control. amtrak has that system installed are great deal of the northeast corridor where. gerri: you have been listening to the ntsb and i will summarize the headlines. they have found that the train was exhilarating in the last 30 seconds before derailment and they know that for sure. they have great video from the front of the train and there is the camera right there to the derailment and this will give them lots of information. and that's all we have tonight.

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