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ion is suffering from lackluster orders. >> okay so be careful. that's it for "forbes on fox." thank you for watching. have a wonderful memorial day. here's eric bolling and "cashin' in." this is a fox news taxpayer alert. 104 billion of your bucks getting dished out in federal food aid last year and this may make taxpayers more queasy. more than seven years after the great recession hit, 18 different government food programs are still serving 110 million americans. now, one state is saying enough. arizona cutting off welfare benefits after 12 months. too harsh or do we need all states to take a look at what arizona's doing? i'm eric bolling. welcome in to "cashin' in." our crew this week along with juan williams and jessica. should other states follow
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arizona's lead? >> i think this is a step in the right direction. food stamps are supposed to be a short-term solution but instead it's a way of life here in america. we should be not only putting a time limit, 12 months on food stamps but we also should be requiring people to work. if you want food stamps and you're able bodied you ought to either have a job or be volunteering in your community. if you want money from taxpayers, you need to also be doing something. >> arizona had no limit. now they're reducing it to just one year. if you're on food stamps, assistant for a year and then you're done. >> think that's a great transition. >> for life. >> i think that's a bit fast. but i would say, we do need to cut back on welfare benefits. i'm not going to argue things should stay as they are. they should be working and they're not. what i would also say is we need to make sure we're getting people the skills they need to get jobs. we've had a sluggish recovery.
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we've replaced a lot of jobs. these people might not be able to sustain themselves and their families. we also talk about 1,600 families, 2,700 children. those are real americans we need to make sure are going to be okay. >> what about it is arizona being too harsh as jessica says? >> i wouldn't use the term harsh. i don't think arizona is going far enough. the point isn't to make sure people are working, the point is do you get rid of welfare. that's the issue. the issue isn't really should you give money to someone in need. the real issue is do you have the right not to give money to someone in need. do you have to give every time jessica or juan or anyone else says these people really deserve your help? the whole idea of america is you own your own life. if you want to help someone, that's great, but you're not a slave to everyone else's endless needs in this free country. >> so juan many states most states have a five-year limit on food stamp recipients. texas has a tiered system.
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should -- i'm very much against this. you as a libertarian should be against it too. should the feds come up with one amount of time that all states should abide by? >> no it's up to the states it's up to the localities. i would think conservatives should say let the state have some control. because, remember much of the funding here comes from the federal government but then it goes as a block grant to the states and the state have some latitude in terms of how they use the money. and that's what arizona's doing. they're saying they want to use the money for something else. and they're punishing poor people. and not just poor people disabled people people with mental issues people who have been traumatized, often veterans and most of all this is what i don't understand jonathan says we're going to be slaved yet use your money. we're punishing children. texas says we always take care of the kids. >> before we get too deep in the
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liberal wilderness i'm not sure everything you cited is fact. let's get some facts from wayne. >> i think the problem is it's not a moral one. everyone says oh this got down and out and he needs food we should help him. all those things are true. we all agree on that. there always is a certain amount of that. we have as you said earlier, 18 food programs administrated by three separate federal agencies. that's the problem. you've got the federal government in every part of our life doing things wrong. they can't do anything wrong. >> wait wait let me finish -- >> let me finish. they're trying to build a hospital in colorado. it's into billions now. the va is under investigation. the irs is under investigation. the federal government cannot do anything right. get them out of the business altogether and start the food program with somebody who can run it. >> go ahead. >> wayne, would it be better if it was one federal program?
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your point is it's too complicated? it is a moral issue here wayne. if you want to help those in need start a kick starter for them. pass around a collection plate. that's the moral problem here. the sense you have to help someone in need just because you're alive and you have the money to help them. >> no you should have -- >> no wrong, wrong. >> go ahead, wayne. >> wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. you're making it a moral problem. it's not a moral problem. it's the fact that the federal government doesn't know what the hell they're doing. they can't find their tushey from first base. >> does it bother anyone 109 million americans, that's one-third of all americans, are recipients of some aid, one form of aid or another? isn't this outrageous? >> well i think this is the result of a liberal agenda. liberals don't care about lifting people out of poverty. instead, they're focused on making people feel more comfortable living in poverty. let's reduce the regulatory
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burden on our entrepreneurs. so these entrepreneurs can open new businesses expand existing ones and create jobs for these people so they can leave poverty, not just feel more comfortable living in it. >> we need to point out it may not be 109 million americans. it's 109 million beneficiaries. >> that doesn't mean there aren't a lot of people who legitimately need it. i completely agree with michelle. that we need to be doing more to encourage people to get back to work to be entrepreneurs. mobility is the number one issue in this country. it's not actually income inequality it's inequality of opportunity. >> is there an -- john i thought that was against the law to have inequality of opportunity. >> the only equality is equality in front of the law. once again, this idea of people are in need. need is not the standard of value. if juan wants to help anyone they more than have the right to. simply because you have the need doesn't mean americans have the
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obligation to cough up their tax dollars to fill your need. >> juan. >> i just get depressed listening to you guys. i think you're talking about our seniors. you're talking about -- remember, the biggest budget outland, domestic side things like social security medicare. you're telling me you want to cut those program also? when it comes to something that will help poor children -- >> you're constantly saying how obama has helped this economy but then at the same time all these people need all these food stamps. you're like obama's great for the economy. no it's not doing great. >> hold on i hear all of this from you guys. you forget. we had a recession. we have children. you keep talking about it -- >> seven years ago. seven years ago. >> what about our children? >> what about the kids? we have to leave it there. i love you. always what about the kids the elderly, the military. come on. >> never heard that before. >> we got to leave that one right there. aside from our hash tag being
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the defensive throughout iraq and syria, attempting to hold gain while conducting small-scale, localized harassing attacks. >> certainly doesn't look like they're playing defense to me. jonathan you say we better change our game plan or we'll pay a bigger price later? >> why have we resigned to this decades long conversation with savages? we've got the strongest military in the history of man kind. we can eliminate entire countries, let alone a couple of savages in the desert with pickup trucks they stole from us. it's almost like this president can't stand up for this country. we can't be self-interested. it's all about helping the islamic streets, the greater good. we can't stand up for america, put our interests first and that's exactly what's needed to win this war. >> jessica, is the white house winning the war? they say they're not but the president told the atlantic this week we're not losing.
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>> listening to him this week versus the president or the general, these are starkly different perspectives. i'm sure you've seen the clip of him saying we cash our hair on fire every time we have a setback. ramadi seemed more than just a setback. i'm really hesitant to say let's have a full-scale ground troop war. but there are other things we can be doing. i was talking to a friend who brought out the issue of why aren't we running a better propaganda war? the u.s. is good at this. we could be dumping pamphlets over there, like educating -- >> by dropping pamphlets? >> no you can educate pea, you can educate -- >> they're running a propaganda war here. >> let me ask, should we bring american ground troops? there's no winning the war over there. why kill more americans. let arab ground troops go in. what do you say?
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>> he has no set policy. he's dealing with situation politics here. situation, military operations. something happens and he reacts to that. he has no set policy. they have no strategy. there is no strategy. until he gets one, until he understands this is a war between shiites on the one hand and sunnis on the other hand then he's not going to understand how to deal with it. >> you didn't answer the question. what should we do with ground troops and who should they be? >> i'm not a military guy. i know one thing, i served in the military i know one thing, when you lay out a strategy you better stick to it. he doesn't have a strategy. >> i remember m.a.s.h. don't think i don't remember. >> unfortunately, he doesn't have a strategy. if you said i'm going to respond to each one of these things with overwhelming force, that would be a strategy. he didn't have that.
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>> michelle. >> the pentagon confirmed last month we spent over $2 billion so far trying to fight isis. it seems like we have nothing to show for it. the administration continues to say that isis has been weakened but they continue to advance in iraq and syria and, like wayne said, you know i can't even critique the strategy of this administration because they have no strategy. it seems like we don't know what we're doing there. >> go ahead, juan. do we not know what we're doing there? should we define a strategy? >> i'm just kind of curious because i think you're all educated well informed people but the strategy's pretty obvious here. the president thinks the strategy should be to have the eye iraqis tear care of their own country. we've already invested more than $1 trillion in fighting a war that lasted ten years. we know how many young people have died over there. it's time for the iraqis to take care of iraq. we should get, as eric
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suggested, more of the arab partners involved in fighting a war among arabs. we can go in there and try to settle 1,000-year dispute between sunni, shia and whoever else but it's never going to work it's never going to end. jonathan wants to bomb them back to the primitive age. that's not the way to wiin a war if not by military force? >> what you have to do is be smart. be smart, be diplomatic. use alliances to get these countries, get iraqis to -- >> -- world war ii i think -- >> hold on let me -- >> -- best interest in their best financial and economic interest to have a stable government. >> the way to win a war is by total war. >> i'm sorry, we ran out of fans. i wish we had more time. coming up sending the tax man after the clinton foundation. what some lawmakers are asking
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starts in just ten minutes. new revelations from the clinton foundation. turns out it received up to an additional $26 million from speeches made by the clintons that were not previously disclosed. u oh. and now a group of republicans asking the irs to investigate and drop the charity's tax exempt status. they say it hid behind quote, a cloak of philanthropy to facilitate transactions between foreign groups when hillary was
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secretary of state and, wayne, you agree. >> it's a laughable thing. here you've got the irs, a corrupt agency of the united states government who's being investigated on their own, investigating the clintons a 501 c-3 allegedly tax exempt which isn't at all. the whole thing is a mess. and you can't have an arm of the federal government who is absolutely under water and, and, and, and, doesn't know what they're doing, investigating somebody else who doesn't know what they're doing. >> i would suggest both what say you, john? >> well i mean eric all charity tax exemptions. it's not like it's the government's job to choose who's a charity and who isn't. they use their political pull to raise nontax dollars to control our lives. i don't think just tax exemptions should be evaluated but all the processes here which is cronyism.
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>> go ahead, michelle. >> pretty nice house, i'm sure. >> if a clinton foundation was a free market group, the irs would already be investigated them and we wouldn't be debating this. the clint foundation we already know has underreported donations. they did not report their foreign donations from foreign governments. if this was a tea party group, they would have already got their tax exempt status taken away from them. >> go ahead, juan. >> i'm just surprised this labor day weekend, all this hating on the government on the irs. that's why the irs is having its budget cut so badly that they can't do the basic work needed to collect revenue from people -- >> oh i don't think -- >> i will say this -- >> one final thought. chris. >> what we need right now is the clinton people to just come clean and get out of the way. >> i'm with juan on that. i would say you can still support hillary and the role of
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president obama addressed the most pressing issue to national security. ready for your head to explode in 3, 2, 1. >> climate change constituted a serious threat to global security. there comes a point where the worst effects will be irreversible and time is running out. >> i never expect a commander in chief knee deep in a failing war strategy to call climate change our most pressing issue given isis just took ramadi in iraq and palmyra in syria. here at home, two more isis sim pa tithers were arrested. they went to a new jersey high school to warn students about isis. clearly, isis is a major threat to our national security. but that's not all that ales america. high schoolers are portraying cops as brutal killers targeting the black community. while lawmakers are pointing their fingers at law enforcement from behind the security details and liberal academia is piling
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on blaming cops for the problems plaguing the black community. >> i want to be a teacher because i want to change the world. i wanted to make it a better place. i'm going to be honest with you. in a lot of ways i fear we are not there yet. if we were there, we wouldn't have conflict between police killing young black men. >> mr. president, the climate is not a threat and it's certainly not an imminent threat. in fact it's been a decade and a half in the hiatus of global warming and that is a fact so stop playing the american people. race relations are fragile. our law enforcement community is under assault. and isis is knocking on our back door. what scares me most is you have no strategy for any of these. here companies some free advice. develop an isis strategy then develop a strategy to protect our men and women in blue who keep us safe every day. finally, work on a race strategy that calms tensions rather than
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fuels the flames. as for climate change leave that for bill nye and the global warmist clown. it's beneath the office sir, our soldiers and veterans. "the willis report" is next. >> hello everyone. i'm gerri willis. this is the willis report, the show where consumers are our business. tonight the clinton foundation reveals millions of dollars in undisclosed payments. and hours later the state department releases the first wave of hillary's emails. but the clinton drama far from over. also americans hitting the road this holiday weekend in record numbers. but will a rise in gas prices ruin your summer plans? and are we creating a generation of moochers? why more and more millennials will hit up the bank of mom and dad. ♪ we begin tonight with new clinton cash coming to light. the clinton foundation is acknowledging mill
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